GamingSins: Everything Wrong With Devil May Cry 4 (Special Edition)
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- Опубліковано 25 чер 2019
- Welcome to GamingSins, where I nitpick the hell out of video games.
So, Devil May Cry 4 is definitely in the upper echelon of action games and certainly one of the better DMC games. However, it is certainly not without its sins, especially when you take the Special Edition into account.
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Nero: What? I thought this meant alot to you.
Dante: Keep it, so my brother can go after you and not me.
Vergil's DMC4 campaign should have been a What If scenario in which Dante never showed up to Fortuna and Yamato was still in The Order's possession, so Vergil comes instead to retrieve it from them.
@@loregasmic that would have been an awesome, what about vergils weapon? just plain ol fist action?
@@lightkirinhururname9147 ehem...Force Edge
Gameplay wise, Vergil wouldn't be any different than he is when you play as him. I'd have replaced Force Edge with Sparda just to grant him a bigger power boost when using it and a stronger DT. Mostly to show us what a Vergil wielding the Sparda would've been like. In the cutscenes he crashes the church instead of Dante and would be effortlessly ruining his enemies without his sword the way he did to Nero in DMC5 - which he does again here, but without ripping off his arm. Nero is tasked with pursuing Vergil the way he normally pursued Dante. By the time Vergil gets to the lab, Yamato has already been restored and taken by Nero. Agnus tries to ambush Vergil with Gladius but Vergil catches it and uses it to interrogate Agnus about Yamato, saying he had briefly sensed its energy here (when Nero awakened its DT). Agnus tells Vergil about the demon kid Nero who restored it and was able to use its power. Vergil immediately realizes who and what Nero is and pursues him. Instead of Yamato, Vergil discovers Beowulf in the possession of the Order instead. Vergil battles Nero for the second time who is now holding Yamato in his hand. Just like his second battle against Dante, Vergil now breaks out Beowulf which he uses to retrieve Yamato. Once he has it, Vergil cuts a portal open and is about to leave when Nero pleads with Vergil that he needs it to save Kyrie, who is being held hostage. Vergil knows he is degrading but actually has more time at this point of the DMC story. He decides to do his bastard son a favor for causing all this and kill Sanctus himself, who should be fodder for him even in his weakened state. After fighting Sanctus, Nero shows up to save Kyrie but gets absorbed into the Savior. Now Vergil has to do the backtracking and destroy the Savior. Once he does, Sanctus is dead, Nero and Kyrie are saved and Vergil departs with Yamato, bidding a quiet goodbye to his son. The end.
Best joke ever
Dante: *exists*
GCN: Well, that's a minus one sin *reverse ding*
I don't blame him tbh
Understandable
This us just 20 minutes of dante being dante and I enjoyed it
One seems too little
Black-haired dude that claims he’s Dante: *exists*
GCN: I’m about to sin this guy’s whole career!
I swear, in a universe where Eva survived and raised Dante and Vergil, Dante would _totally_ be a Shakespearean actor on the side of Devil hunting.
Exactly
@Brooke Williams speaking of which imagine if Eva survived that would change a loooooooooot of things in the DMC universe
@@ZoniferConundrum Quite a bit, yes.
I think Dante would be that one actor who can improvise very well and most be known as comedian while Vergil is the more serious method actor.
Oh yeah. Definitely.
No talk about how all the female characters in this game are EXTRA THICC?!
There would be a LOT of sin reduction if he talks about it and he really hate that lol
TyranusRex721 Good old 2008 where nobody pretended they don’t like thicc girls.
@@denisskenderovic3707 agreed i wish those days would come back :(
@@denisskenderovic3707 I miss those days too.
remove 20 sins.
“Nero gets impaled but there’s no entry wound”
Welcome to Devil May Cry
Haha it's not devil may cry if the character isnt stabbed by the sword
@@Pipsintheair and not survive being stabbed by said sword
@@ZoniferConundrum I wonder if the end of DMC6 is Sparda like destorying the DmC game's universe or smth, wins, gets stabbed then dies
only the sons of sparda can damage someone's clothes
I'm truly disapointed for not a sin reduction per second in the "Summon and Kill" scene.
Even more for not saying Shakesperean at Agnus holding a skull.
Dante was basically on a holiday all throughout this game
I mean he even let Nero do all the work and told him that he better not screw up. XD I laughed at that sin because Dante totally isn't the responsible "I'll save the world"guy.
@@LupineShadowOmega No he is but he also likes to give people a chance to save things if they can. What he doesn't care about is the glory of being a hero, he just likes the fun in doing it.
@@M7S4I5L8V2A that's why he's in debt
@@M7S4I5L8V2A it is pretty fun being a hero to be fair.
@Roman Francis facts 😭
No-one:
GamingSins: VERGIL'S H A T E B O N E R
That hate was divine for that lady, I'm sure
3:26
I played this game a lot… and I NEVER noticed Dante was there in that cutscene… Nice little detail.
he's also present for a split second while Nero is fighting the scarecrows. emphasis on split second.
yeah me too
absolutely>
Jack the Ripper yep
I noticed it when i first played it when i was a child too much trauma of…i dont want to talk about
Dante actually didn’t sell all of his Devil Arms, he had Cerberus in the DMC5 prequel novel, unfortunately it was destroyed by Balrog
Though he did sell most of them
I never new that about the Devil arms lol. But at least Dante got an upgrade in the form of Barlog.
Makes a guy think how the hell he got so far in debt the only way for him to pay his bills is sell highly dangerous, & destructive weapons made from devils
@@all-stargam3rpunk right, for a really long time i was wondering how many times Dante has filed for bankruptcy.
@@krislancaster1214 now you know why he stayed in hell at the end of 5. To escape the banks lol
Where was it stated that Dante sold demon arms or is it just a running joke in the fandom?
Can we all agree that Berial is one of the most badass first boss of any game.
Nah phantom in the first game was better but he's not bad too
How about Cerberus m
The 1st Colossus in Shadow of Colossus is one of my top first bosses.
@@thegaminglord2190 Agreed.
Except he wasn't the first boss...
I hope he realises that his arm only glows near anythung related to sparda
But it also glows to let you know, if there are any hidden things in gameplay. Like Red Orbs or secret missions.
Majklkiller This series is basically nitpicking turned up to 11. He probably already knows it.
@@majklkiller859 That's actually after he killed ice frog boss if I remembered correctly. His arm also had reaction when he met Vergil in 5.
@@book1840 Oh yeah thats true
@@majklkiller859 Not to mention that's just gameplay-wise, and gameplay-wise things can be considered non canon. Like in DMC5 you can use both DT and SDT, but canonically, DT has been replaced by SDT.
The orders version of Jesus shot their pope in the face
Well, considering the pope is evil.... It's just makes sense to me
and Jesus struck down the sinners as the prophecy foretold
6:00 Dante needed the Sparda too so when he stabbed himself with Rebellion, they would merge as one and unlock his Sin Devil Trigger
also he had to be the one to stab himself to unlock that power, much like how vergil had to stab himself in order to split himself with yamato
It was also about him finding his purpose again and accepting his heritage.
He got trashed throughout the first half of his story segments. And looked very, very tired. Not physically, but attitude-wise.
This entire series is about family and purpose.
So yeah.
Though Gaming Sins is not really serious, anyway.
About half of the sins can be pretty easily debated.
But that is not really the point of these videos.
@@rogaldorn4759 didnt he already come to terms with his heritage in 3 though, since him being able to embrace his demon side aswell as his mortal side is kind of what put him over the edge against vergil to begin with
@@Sleepy_Kitsune
Come to terms?
Yes.
But the reasoning did not have to do with defeating Vergil.
I am pretty sure he still hated, or at least, disliked this aspect of his, since he blamed his father for many conflicts and issues, correlated to demons.
I could be wrong.
But that does not change the core issue: Dante lost his MOTIVATION until Vergil came back.
He was really without a purpose.
Only after realising that he still has a family matter to settle, did he start caring.
I am trying to keep these replies reasonable in size.
Because the psychology behind the brothers and their conflict is pretty damn interesting. And going off on a tangent happens quickly.
@@Sleepy_Kitsune
Vergil stabbed Dante with Rebellion in 3 and that unlocked his devil trigger.
Absolutely lost it when Dante set Rebellion on the ground and revved it like Nero does with Red Queen. NEVER noticed that on any of my playthroughs.
10:34 sin 82. Visions of V answers that question. The Yamato broke after Mundus defeated Vergil and corrupted his body into Nelo Angelo. It is suggested in one of the novels that Mundus disposed of the broken sword and it and the black armor pieces of Nelo Angelo were found near Fortuna
Neat but remember if you have to use outside material to understand something in game is a sin for the game has failed in providing DETAILS
That does bring up the question as to why DMC's Satan would break the sword that opens up doors to the demon world and just toss it in the garbage.
Ldpşeşe
I was honestly expecting E3 2019 but this is cool
Sameeee
@@marlaynemelendez7143 atleast it's the next video
@@cashordeals3672 thank God
@@marlaynemelendez7143 yeah
No "KYRIE!!!!!" Bonus Round? Bummer...
“Nero, I don’t feel so good” Dead lmao
Signs of pregnancy
- 5 sins for Dante's entrance, -3 sins for Dante being pinned to the wall with his own sword and get back to fight, - 3 sins for amazing shot with Nero's both boots landing on Dante's face. Man! That was powerfull cutscene!
4:21 maybe its because the devil arm glows only when it senses one of the Sons Of Sparda, since in DMC 5 it glowed when Vergil was present in the garage with Nero. (But that's just what I think..)
Actually I think it's just with anything directly related to Sparda, since it also reacts to Yamato.
A new GCN video??? *stops what I'm doing*
Fr tho
Your not wrong
Same!
8:58 I wouldn’t be surprised if Gloria did inspire the creation of Bayonetta’s character since Hideki Kamiya did say he researched DMC4 a lot when developing that game
Dante is the guy that would bring a motorbike to a gun fight
To be honest. That would sound kind of cool. If that makes some sense
Sin #30 Dante isn’t fully embracing his demonic power at that moment. He ,at that particular moment, is just using enough of his power and strength to just toy and play with Nero. Remember how DMC5 where he said he felt that Nero was Virgil’s Son but wasn’t sure? This is him at that moment “testing the waters” and trying to confirm his suspicion. Especially now after Nero had shown off his Devil Buster.
Sin Devil trigger doesn’t activate/take effect because the whole purpose of the rebellion sword is to embrace one of the two halves of any figure, instead of keeping them separate and contained like how the Yamato does. The two swords are polar opposites, much like Dante and Virgil. When Virgil stabs himself, he embraces the power of the Yamato knowing it’ll separate his human from demon. Rebellion awakens Dante’s inner Devil trigger in DMC3 because the sword’s power was feeding off of Dante’s hatred for Virgil after he’d been bested. Theoretically he could’ve gone into sin devil trigger at that moment as well, but Dante doesn’t know to fully embrace his demon power to send him to that state. Rather he ties it with his human nature and thus lets his demon power harmonize with his human self.
Dante only gets the idea to stab himself with the rebellion after seeing his old home and thinking about his father and mother, who gave Dante and Virgil Rebellion and Yamato (Respectively). Then he thinks back to the events of DMC3 and says “Hey my Father gave my Brother a sword to separate man from devil, and when I was stabbed with this, it embraced my inner demon and made me more powerful even though I rejected my demon side. But now I accept it... How bout another party” and thus stabs himself.
Thanks for reading.. ok I’m out. K thanks bye
... It's Devil BRINGER... Just sayin'.
Redd 02 thanks. Got a little confused there. It’s been a minute
Still missing Dante's mindset. He's still not fully accepted his Demonic half. He only just went DT in cutscene in thia games that one time Nero was punching his face in, he's legit still rejecting his Demonic side so I'm doubting his Sin DT would hav activated when he got impaled anyways. Probably just give his base DT a minor boost at best
@@onyxknight320
No problem. I used to think it was the Devil Buster too, so you're not alone.
*Vergil not Virgil.
Would've been weird if Vergil encountered Credo. Especially, when they both share the same voice actor.
Not to mention Credo was a kid/not born.
No just mocap. His english voice actor is terence j. Rotolo not daniel southworth
Wait. Dante SOLD those dope weapons he got in DMC3?
I never knew that! Godammit! 😭😭😭.
No, no he did not. He still has them all
He sold some of them Cerberus was destroyed by balrog before DMC 5
@@Alexander-wh8jd Then what ever happened to the Nevan Guitar?
@@JustCallMe_Tae Probably sold it too.
angi and rudra were probably the first to go, he probably kept Cerberus because of sentimental value, he also probably kept Pandora because of it's power he wouldn't want that getting into the wrong hands, Nevan I'm really sure that's a 50/50
19:32 when Dante gives a high five then gcn minus five sins😂
17:37 And Capcom slaps us in the face with their DMC X pachinko machines, which has a Trish/Dante tag team scenario, Lady gets involved too.
More of a slap in the face when Hideki Kamiya's plan for DMC2 was a tag-team scenario with Trish and Dante, ala Viewtiful Joe 2. And now even with DMC5 still no tag team. Wasted opportunity.
"Nero, I don't feel so good"
Well played....well played!!!
"Gyro blade"
Is ThAt A mOtHeRfUcKiNg StEeL bAlL rUn ReFeReNcE?
Killing enemies in the Fortuna Castle hallway with ease.
"Arigatou, Gyro"
I really want to know how many people didn’t know Nero was Vergil’s son and needed the 5th game to tell them
0:54 SEED of Sparda
Video game developers: nobody can find any mistakes when we develop video games
Gamingsins: hold my beer
5:58
Yea about that, if you notice in nearly all DMC games Dante’s devil trigger is different in each one because of which sword he’s carrying, so him getting stabbed by rebellion here wouldnt cause him to go into sin because
1. He didn’t have devil sword Sparda
2 his devil power had been activated at that point
Just saying incase you didn’t know
"Next thing to be sinned: E3 2019"
OOH, BOAH!
How many sins are EA worth today?
Gio A 1 trillion
Bethesda: 16 times the sins. Sentence: YEEEAAAH WHOOO
Yeahhhhhhhh! **Bethesda employee yells**
3:09 Bruh, I never even notice Dante in this cutscene until now
7:57 Yeah this part can be a pain in the “ASS.”
Get it
Dante: What the hell is this?!
Me playing the game: same Dante. Same
There's a special edition? WHERE HAVE I BEEN!?
Wait are you serious?
Get it. Its the only good version of dmc4
Its still incomplete but its way more complete than the original dmc4.
3:31 Devil May Cry/Assassin’s Creed Crossover?
Wait a damn minute, did you *add* a sin for Dante skippin' the die game?
Also WHEN MK11 & DMC2?!?
It's everyone's favourite part of the game, of course there's a sin for it being skipped
THANK YOU FOR MAKING THIS! You’ve been teasing it for months lol
I just can’t believe you didn’t remove more sins since there were sooooooo many sick and funny moments in the game!
*Capcom exists*
GCN: That's is a sin
Who wouldn't sin Capcom at this point
That time they are still crapcom so it counts as a sin
I'll sin Capcom til they make another Lost Planet.
9:40
"Luck! Blind! Stupid! Simple! DO DAH! CLUELESS! LUCK!"
11:26 You did it you used Devil Trigger in DMC 4 I am proud of you
I love these videos so my favorite videos and all of UA-cam are from your videos. Keep up the great work bro.
So, great work as usual. One question, will you do a gaming sins on DMC5 after E3?
Reuben Langdon is a treasure. He played Dante perfectly in this game. 👌
5:55 lol I already know the sin for DMCV
Actually pays off that time too
Well that sin doesn't make much sense either. Since in DMC5 Dante had Sparda with him so it can be absorbed into Rebellion whereas in DMC4 Dante didn't have another Devil Arm or Sparda with him when Nero impaled him with Rebellion. Also Nero stabbed Vergil with Yamato in his boss fight and if we apply the same logic to Dante he should've split apart like when he stabbed himself with Yamato. Not only that but everytime Vergil stabs Dante with Yamato shouldn't he have split Dante's soul like it did for Vergil.
The only obvious solution is the fact only the user of the weapons can utilize their special ability or someone who mastered the weapon. Dante in 5 stabbed himself with Rebellion with the intent to activate it's ability whereas Nero stabbed him with Rebellion by throwing it at him.
And even then like I said before Dante needed Sparda to absorb which he didn't had on him when he was impaled in DMC4.
I’ve been waiting for you to post this. Love it. I love all your vids. Plz do DMC5 in the near future
I really liked this video. Great stuff man
*sees notification* INSTANT CLICK!!!!!!
Also, Dante is everyones spirit animal
Actually, mine is Vergil.
Mine's axel from kingdom hearts
Haha nerds, Dante is who you should spirit animal
@@JonathanPaspula Dude, just because we have a different opinion doesn't mean we don't like him. He's just not our favorite.
@@mathewmoscinski7799 lol I kid kid, I like Vergil too dw, even tho Dante's my favorite. Everyone's entitled to their opinion
Nero: Let me guess, more demons?
GCN: If it bothers you that much, why don't you just destroy the hell gate?
Me: If it bothers you that much, get the hell out of a Devil May Cry game, Nero.
someone has GCN salt....
Do I need to explain why this comment is utter garbage?Or do you have enough braincells to do it yourself?
You do realize that wasn't an insult to GCN, nor his content, right? The whole point was if Nero had an issue with more demons in a DMC, then he is in the wrong game. Twas a joke.
@@DarkWarrior-xk9ub You edited the nero part in.
@@yanribeiro7108 I am aware of this. I only did that cause apparently I had to make the joke more obvious that I was referring to Nero.
Are you gonna try on mk11 I enjoyed mkx and I wanted to c what u think
Im pretty sure he's gonna finsh the DMC series and then do E3, And MK11
He probably will, since he's done the other recent MK games. It probably takes a long time to make one of these videos.
Maybe in another 2 years
@@mathewwilliams1815 I don't mind waiting, I can always re-watch his other sins videos.
This!
17:00
Oh Dante is getting some just fine.
He's just smart and uses protection.
Dante's shop is in Redgrave instead of Fortuna ;)
The sarcasm in every video always makes me laugh. Even though you guys said you're not funny, but some how I do find you guys funny
Awesome!!!! Can't wait for the next sin video
When he goes to talk about the Blue Rose, he does know that Ebony and Ivory are modded and glorified (yet still very beautiful) Colt/Remington 1911s right?
1:45 umm this Vergil was a prequel to dmc3 Vergil
*New GCN video*
The time has come and so have I.
Have you come to devour the moon, and bring an end to this era?? XD
Been waiting a while for the next video ..... but it was worth it.
Got here immediately, I've been dying for this
17:17 it's even MORE Ironic because Creto's voice actor is Dan Southworth who also does Vergil. I'm surprised you guys didn't point that out lol. And it's also probably why they used the "Foolishness" line here.
You mean credo right? Not kratos
I did mean Credo not Kratos. What a misspelling on my part lol.
@@magniteproductions3767 it would be kinda awkward to have a video game character who is a brutal angry warrior have a calm voice
Hate to break it to you pal, but Credo is voiced by TJ Rotolo (Frank West)… not Dan.
@@AveragePizzaEnjoyer5 After doing some digging because I was SURE ha had a part in Credo, it seems to be a split between if he just motion capped him or voiced vs him not voicing. He used to be credited for Credo and now he isn't. This is so odd. I was 100% sure Dan was Credo now It's TJ.
I think Dan just did the Motion Capture for Credo from what I'm finding so I think you're correct.
Thank you GCN for another great video! :)
Neros arm only reacts to demons with some kinda connection to him
I am huge dmc4 fan, but this was super funny and like 85% correct.
Things like Nero not having his demon arm for his entire life(that was stated in the novel or something. I believe he was wounded by demon and his "blood" awakened giving him that arm. Which Nero kinda addressed in Yamato and devil trigger cutscene) or his hand glowing when there was powerful enough demon around(same kinda thing was in the dmc anime, when amulet annihilated powerful demons but just burned an arm abit of the weak one), etc.
Btw, this cutscene with devil trigger(song) looks and feels amazing.
We later learn that Nero appears occasionally in the Persona 4 anime
Also obtaining a harem for himself
I'm gonna be honest this was my second DMC game I played and I enjoyed Nero the change of character isn't bad or jarring unless it's the 6th game cause that's somewhat weird
"Played 3 devil may cry games before" bold of you to assume i'd inflict the second one to myself
11:26, i have to agree, that song fits so well.
11:17 "snake, talk to me, snake, SNAKEEEEE"
GCN: "Oh. I see, Nero. Your arm only glows when it's convenient and the plot demands it."
Me: Really? I always thought that Nero's arm glows when it's near people who are related to him by blood( aka the cutscene when we first see Dante, shooting the Pope in the same church Nero was in ) or supernatural weapons used by people( who are related to him by blood ) for a very long time( aka Vergil's sword, Yamamoto ).
Vergil’s Sword is called Yamato, as in the Battleship. Not Yamamoto, as in the General.
@@cooperchance7720 Oh sorry. My bad
5:58 I know what you're referring to, but the reason he didn't unlock SDT is because he didn't have Sparda to fuse it with. Rebellion fuses power together, and without the second half of that power. There's just no effect.
I'm 90% sure Dante literally says something along those lines in game
And never got his constant bitching about it
I'll never get tired of watching your vids
17:31 Oml I laughed so hard😂
Dammit Capcom! DMC fans are trying to erase the reboot from their brains don't remind them
wait, where is the ending when Nero slaughtered some scarerows and Kyrie just stand there, watching and screaming instead of running away?
"Nero... I don't feel so good..." *Fades away*
I absolutely lost it here lol
"Dante's not invincible" ... Good joke, man, I almost believed you. Seriously though, Dante is the definition of being invincible
If we're being technical, Dante is unkillable not invincible.
@@caitlinbrewer4843 Maybe, but there are some things speaking against this.
First, he is the protagonist of the game, so .... plot-armor. Next, he is not unkillable, as you could cut his head of and he would die, but he almost everytime seems to get a powerboost if something like this happens, for example when he was stabbed and through this gained additional demonic powers( plot-armor says "hello") and the best reason for Dante being (almost?) invincible: he defeated the King of Demons. You know, just the one who is the strongest demon of them all? I mean, why else would he be the King of Demons if he is not the strongest? And Dante killled him. The only one who is a real match for him is bis brother, and in Dmc 5 their fight was a draw. So, can his brother defeat him? Maybe, but Dante, before fighting him, also fought a whole army, tons and tons of demons, while his brother was just sitting around and still, he could not defeat Dante. So... why exactly is he not invincible?
@@Raidon484 he did lose to Urizen several times before gaining the power of Sin DT.
@@DantesInferno96 but Urizen was a part of Vergil so he wanted to kill Dante, and he would only be victorious If he did so, because... well, he's Vergil. But Dante's still alive. So, is this a defeat or not maybe a draw
@@Raidon484 a draw yes. The only person who can defeat Dante is Vergil.
Just to clarify i liked DMC reboot twice. _ . Im going to cry in the corner now
DmC reboot is not DmC is the problem. Capcom would've been better if it was just a new IP.
It's been 10 years and I only now noticed dante looking over the church in the beginning
2:42 Dude, there's a blue jacket (like Vergil's) for Nero. You could've put him in that
Can u plz do a sin count on dying light for the upcoming sequel
your whispering sounds pretty hilarious! After e3 2019, you have to do devil may cry 5 then devil may cry 2 and you're done with every single DMC game
also nice infinity war reference btw
Andrew Frosos You May not know this but GCN pretends that DMC2 doesn’t exist. Plus Crowbcat made a video on DMC2 which shows enough to know why it is hated.
@@sleepygamermax6782 During the sin video for 5 he's gonna take the box art of DMC2 and give it a 1,000 sins. I bet
That bass singing tho, 10/10 nice one man
Dude you don’t post nearly enough. I drop everything I’m doing when I see you have a new video.
Well, better than Dartigan’s. That’s for sure
Both channels give little to no thought in their sins, but dmc4 is such a mess that this video actually did alright...
@@aTalkingKoala8294 yeah but this is for jokes so i can get behind that.Datigan on the other hand seems a bit more logical
This one had many parts copied from Dartigan's video.
Finally another video to fill my dark soul with light
i was waiting for this video like for ever
11:26 love that scen especially with devil trigger playing :) perfection :)
What is the name of it anyways?
The arm reacts to the blood of sparda.... not just "demons"...
Plus when you have to find some red orbs, heh
23:25 this is why i love gcn
23:24 I can get behind that idea, Internet make it happen, I NEED THIS!
Ive been waiting for this lets rock
Well, to be fair, when Dante pierced himself with Rebellion in DMC5, the reason he acquired the Sin Devil Trigger was because he had the Devil Sword Sparda in his possession and absorbed its power. So...
So when Nero DT’s it makes a devil triggered Vergil but it looks like a JoJo Stand. Wait is DMC4 a giant JoJo reference.
This is a very VERY old joke.
It was confirmed that the stand is actually a reflection of Nero's soul. It's double confirmed by Vergil's doppelganger stand in DMCV.
Nah, Nero is actually Yu Narukami from Persona 4
YES IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS ONE
I think Dante not telling Nero about Vergil was all about him not wanting him to follow his footsteps.