Thank you for telling us your history. It is so important for me because I had a spinal fusion 8 months ago and I dream about coming back into the gym for working out again.
Thank you for the share. I am seven days post fusion. I had a bulging disc at L3-L4. I had ruptured both my L4-L5 and L5-S1. I had a cyst on my L3-L4. I also had a 5mm misalignment between my L5 and S1. The original discussion with the surgeon was titanium pins between my L5 and S1 to correct for the spondylithesis, spacers to correct for that same collapsed disc, a biopsy of the cyst and a discectomy of the ruptured and bulging discs to clean everything up. Woke up from surgery to a full bar and screw fusion from L3 to S1. I was very active prior to this. Doing Indian Runs while rucking a 30# pack is what did most of the damage. We'll see how recovery goes. I have been up and walking since the day after surgery. I hope to be off of my walker within the next week. Pain is pretty well managed, but there are some off days. I still have a long way to go, but best of luck and healing to all of us on here.
Wow, that's a pretty big procedure. Good luck on the recovery. Keep moving, the more you move, the better you'll feel. Manage it day by day. You'll have good days, you'll have bad days. Just keep your head up and keep moving forward.
@@maheswarc128 Certainly. First a correction, I had a PLIF L2 - L5. S1 remains unfused. Cyst was benign. So I am 10 weeks post surgery as I type this. I was off my walker 2 weeks after surgery. I tapered off of my pain and nerve medication (Robaxin, Tylenol and Gabapentin) about 3 weeks ago. I have also been in PT for the past 3 weeks. I have not had any measurable pain in the past 4 to 6 weeks. I get sore if I do to much, there is a noticeable strength imbalance between my right and left legs (right is much weaker). I know this nerve recovery and not atrophy. I get tired pretty easily for now. With all of that said, I have been very fortunate with how my injury went, my surgery and my recovery. I have little to no pain, my strength and flexibility are returning as work through PT and the X-Rays show the hardware is holding together. My final follow up with the surgeon has been moved up from May to March, as I am recover quicker than expected. Something for everyone on here and / or going through this, keep your head up and talk to someone. I am a pretty happy-go-lucky guy, but the depression related to this is something else. Take care of yourself.
Thank you for the share man. I’m 16 weeks post hybrid L4-S1, and my back feels stronger but still have leg pain that’s slowly healing. I’m just getting antsy - I need weights again but mentally not ready.....
1 and a half year after l4 l5 s1 spinal fusion, I started out 3 months after my surgery with calisthenics, built my way back to my upper body weights, dumbbell bench press 60kgs, but started to deadlift and squat a week ago. The deadlifts make me feel great but squats are making me feel some pain. If anyone out there has done the l4 l5 s1 fusion, let me know your input and feedback and what's your training routine
I think u should replace squat with hack squat machine or bulgarian split squat as it reduces pressure on your spine. As for deadlift u should go with dumbbell rdl 😅
Had L4-L5 fusion on 1/6/22...My pain that I was having before the surgery is completely gone. Walking a mile 2- times a day since 1/20. Only pain is from the hardware they placed in my back. Had what they call an OLIF procedure. Oblique Lateral Intervertebral Fusion. Went in through my left oblique to remove the disc and then two 3 inch incisions in lower back to place the 2 pedicle rods and 4 screws. Should be back to light weight training in 6 weeks. Best decision I ever made. Im 51 and in better than average shape.
@@fusiongains Thanks! Just hit the 4 week mark yesterday. Walking 6-9 miles a day for the past 2 weeks. Going back to work in 2 weeks. Training arms very lightly in the gym now.
I had my l1 -5 fused and all of the disc had to be removed aswell and they put cages In. In place of the disc I’m 24 I have a degenerative disease. What’s worse is I’ve been a big bench presser for a few years a I compete in professional arm wrestling. The surgery has been very demoralizing and I really feel like I’m going to have to give up a lot and I’m fighting to figure out what I’ll be able to do after I fully heal I’m 4 months out good luck to every one that has had it done
There was no choice on my end, the vertebrae was cutting into my spinal cord heavy and hard, could have paralyzed myself in my sleep just twisting the wrong way. Every day gets a little better.
Very inspiring vid! How long after microdiscectomy did you start working out and how gradual was it? Did you fully recover from that procedure or did you go at it too soon causing the second issue?
I think I was back to full activity 6 weeks after the microdiscectomy. I was great for 6 months. Then one day I felt a weird pull in my back while warming up back squats. It wasn't even a heavy weight. Then a few weeks later, I sneezed in my car and couldn't walk for 2 weeks. That led to the fusion.
Where was your pain located for those three years???Just had my surgery 8 weeks ago at l4,l5 tlif fusion. The scar is painful about a 5 inch diameter around the scar, muscle pain. Super stiff, doesn’t seem like I’ll be as flexible as before to do squats and Romanian dead lift. Any suggestions / advice will help.Thanks
Me trying to get to the 500lb mark is what caused my ddd…..im in pain from the unstableness in my l5 s1. Front squats with 25lb plates on bar and lunges with medium weight has made my legs quicker n more stable than squatting 405 or 500lbs. After this fusion i will be going back to what i know works. I was a fool trying to lift that heavy but its the thing nobody warns you about.
I had spinal fusion at 16....I am now 33 and squatting 500 pounds. One thing I never do tho is deadlift....I have always been to afraid to start that exercise. After the fusion a recurrent issue I have is my pelvis shoots out of line and tilts to one side meaning I have to constantly visit a chiropractor
That’s awesome that you were able to get to that level of strength! I only deadlifted on the hex/trap bar for the first 3 years after fusion. Then I transitioned to a straight bar and started very light. But nothing says you HAVE TO deadlift. Just listen to your body.
@@ragadawad6158 To be honest, I can't remember exactly as it was so long ago. They can do it by keyhole now which is much easier to recover from and no big scars! When are you due to have the surgery?
@@hairyjute My surgery is on July but my surgeon did not talk to me about minimaly invasive . I hear there is VBT but for children only. I am almost 22 years old I have S shaped scoliosis both 60 degrees Lumbar and thoraco
Im having a condition called isthmic spondylolisthesis and maybe in time i'll need a fusion like u did. To hear that u had back pain for 3 years post op kind of freak me out. I love working out and i hope that i will still be able to do that after the surgery but this time im giving up on the deadlift and squat
I didn’t have to give up squatting and deadlifting. I’m fact, I squat and deadlift heavier now than I ever did before fusion. Yes I had pain for 3 years…. But it was varying degrees of pain, and it was rare for it to stop me from doing things. I’m also stubborn and don’t rest when maybe I should sometimes.
It's a super hard decision to make. My mom had fusion, and it didn't help her at all. Even though I did have pain for a few years after surgery, I'm so much better now. So I can't really give you advice on what to do. For me, the pain was so bad every day that I was willing to do anything, including Fusion.
One more question. How did you overcome the pain after 3 years of suffering. I’m really thinking about the fusion but really scared. And lifting all that weight doesn’t worry about the adjacent segment disease? I’m really sorry to keep bothering you, it’s just seeing someone overcome really gives me hope. I hurt myself deadlifting too.
@@briankim75 no worries at all. Honestly, I just dealt with it. It was a different level of pain each day. Some days it hurt a lot more, some days less. So on the days it hurt more, I just took it a little easier and did what I could. Sadly all you can do is just push through the pain at that point. It’s a different pain than what you’re going through now. For me, I was still able to get on with my life. Whereas before the fusion, I had days where I couldn’t do anything at all. And now structurally, there’s nothing to worry about so I don’t even think about it. After fusion, there is risk that you can herniate a disc above or below the fusion. But that hasn’t happened to me.
@@fusiongains Are you still doing ok? My backs been acting up lately and am really considering the fusion surgery, still scared. Any input would be appreciated
I had L5/S1. Work on your recovery. Movement is king. Do what you can, and continue to push. Recovery will be hard... but you can come out better on the other side. Good luck.
I had a different experience. I had L4 and L5 (I think...) Lower back fusion and didn't get the back brace, and was quite shocked they wanted me out of the hospital in 2 days. I got a walking cane, and shouldn't keep the full 4 leg walker thing I had in the hospital. I walked daily, and recovered well by the first 3 weeks and after 3 months I ran a spartan beast race which is around 15K or something. Felt great, and this fusion was about 10 years ago. 10 years later, I have lower back pains again, but not as crippling as they were before. I've since made changes to development my core muscles and stay away from things like deadlifting and keep my heavy lifting to things like chest and arms. I think the difference with you could have been multiple things, everything from the doctor who did it to your surgery to your overall body physics and to the fact that you lift a LOT heavier than I have have. I've always been around a bench max of about 265, and all other muscle groups are about average like that. YOU are able to lift heavy as fuck which I think may not be good before or after a fusion. Just my take 😊
@@fusiongains found out it wasn’t formed correctly at 20, tried therapy and shots for years but then I finally had surgery at 25. Mechanical instability really doesn’t fix itself, my disks were ok, but my L5 was moving independently of my spine and pinching neeves
Buongiorno fratello purtroppo non parlo l inglese , ho messo i sottotitoli per tradurre la tua storia . Ti voglio ringraziare tantissimo per la tua esperienza , sono un ragazzo di 40 anni mi sono sempre allenato non sono un atleta ma un grande appassionato del powerlifting , ho avuto un intervento di acdf fusione delle vertebre c6 c7 , quelle del collo , ho anche io una placca in titanio con 4 viti , rischiavo di rimanere sulla sedia a rotelle dopo un incidente stradale . È passato solo un mese dall'intervento vorrei da te qualche speranza se potrò tornare ad allenarmi pesante , ora sto soffrendo di una grande perdita di forza al braccio destro , grazie per tutto spero davvero in una tua risposta grazie ancora fratello . Dimenticavo mi sono iscritto al tuo canale e messo like per poterti ringraziare di tutto .
I put your message in google translate, so I hope I got it right. Sorry to hear about your accident. My surgery was lower back, so I'm not sure on recovery for your neck. The best advice I can give is to give it time. After 1 month, I still wasn't doing very much. But after the 6 week mark I was able to start exercising lightly. Then every month I was able to do more and more. Give it time, work on strenghtening the muscles around it (neck, traps, upper back) and then hopefully you can get back to all your normal activity. Good luck.
Do you still live in Jersey? cause I live in jersey and have a great physical therapist and would love to meet you and possibly have you be my trainer. it would be nice to have someone know exactly what im going through. I dont wanna dead lift heavy but I can def dead, lift around 300. but I need the confidence that im doing the form right to be able to do it at home as I create my own gym.
Great video good advice , ive had micro diseconomie , i was put forward for a fusion but i lost use of toes in my right foot after the op , so my surgeon is tad concerned as am i , ive been put forward for trials with a pain stimulator in my back , hopefully this is a better idea and helps , as ive had to many ops after a motorcycle accident broke thighs tendons foot n wrist repaired , 3 years is not what i was told about recovery i need a life for a bit , so your video is gold to me , do you no if a stimulater is anygood , thanks david
hey, thanks for watching and replying. I'm not familiar with a pain stimulator. I've read a little about it, but I don't really know too much. It sounds like the success rate isn't super high. But it's a lot less to recover from than a fusion. If your doctor thinks it's something that can help you long term, with minimal side effects, I'd try that before fusion. Sounds like you've been through a lot. While I'm ok several years after fusion, not everyone gets better. My mom was in constant pain for over a decade after having fusion. But she also wasn't active. As painful as it is, being active is the best thing for your back.
probably as soon as the drugs wore off lol. But really, I don't remember. I don't think it was very long after. Problem is you have to be in a back brace for the first several weeks, and that's very uncomfortable. Also for the first little while, your partner will have to do all the work.
Bro please reply. I had spinal fusion l5s1 2 years ago. I’m in pain everyday and still have a numb left leg and left calf won’t grow at all, now mostly shooting pain from sciatica, cramps in left legs (bun cheek, hamstring and calf’s seize up) I’m training “lightly” considering. I go hard on some things I know won’t put pressure on my spine cause I will feel it the next day. I was thinking of starting deadlifts again to gain side and thickness as it’s obviously one of the best exercises for it. Any recommendations and tips? Love this content.
Sorry to hear you’re still in pain. I started on trap bar deadlifts. I didn’t deadlift on a straight bar for 3 years after surgery. If you’re having that much pain and numbness, you should see your doctor. Or go to another doctor to hear a different opinion. I had pain, but no numbness or sciatica pain afterwards.
@@fusiongains yeah I am booked in soon the get radiation ablation therapy or something like that where they will burn the nerves to stop the pain. The nerves recreated themselves in different spots (think it was called chronic nerve regeneration) which gave me numbness and also hypersensitivity.
@@engabdosalah3278 I might be using hero loosely. I was just told I need 4 levels fused and long-term restriction is no lifting over 20lbs. This kid is up to 505lbs without pain. Yes is he putting the adjacent levels under lots of stress.
@@engabdosalah3278I totally agree, if you once have injured your back or already had a surgery it's always coming back, especially if you put to much pressure on your spine with deadlifts and squads.
@@fusiongains cutting through all those back muscles sucks, but my doctor told me that if you do ALIF lifting heavy would be more likely to cause a hernia
This is a horrible idea. The spine is immoblile when fused and weight directly on the spine compresses it in a way that when the spine compromised you will quicken degeneration of the other disks. never back squat. Deaslifts are deadly over time. So many others ways. Look at how healthy your spine still is!!! Just not worth it ✌️🙏
Never back squat? Deadlifts are deadly? I can't even begin to tell you how wrong you are. Maybe it's not worth it for you, and that's totally fine. I recently deadlifted 540lb, at age 40. It's been a decade since fusion. I think I'm doing ok.
No matter how strong or athletic you are, the human body is not supposed to lift such heavy weights. If you always push/lift yourself to the limits, your discs will be damaged. It's not worth to ruin your health and ability to do a regular job. Ronnie Coleman is the worst example.
I disagree with your opinion. And the Ronnie Coleman example is a bad one. He had a doctor that botched a surgery, then continued doing more surgeries on him to continue getting paid.
@@fusiongains The problem is that you already had a microdisectomy and spinal fusion in your 30s and ´the question is what comes next in an expected life span of 70-80 years. It brings nothing if you can lift three time your body weight and end up crippled in chronic pain. A natural athlet like you would´ve never had to deal with back issues if you would`ve trained with normal weights; instead lifting like an ant to set up personal records. I guess Ronnie Coleman is a sad example of a "gym rat" who couldn´t take a step back after serious back injuries / surgeries. The problem is, the more painless you get, the more careless you become. Take care of yourself and your back, you only have one life / health to live.
Thank you for telling us your history. It is so important for me because I had a spinal fusion 8 months ago and I dream about coming back into the gym for working out again.
You'll get there, just work towards your goal. It takes time.
Did you ever get back to working out , how is life after that fusion?
Thank you for the share. I am seven days post fusion. I had a bulging disc at L3-L4. I had ruptured both my L4-L5 and L5-S1. I had a cyst on my L3-L4. I also had a 5mm misalignment between my L5 and S1. The original discussion with the surgeon was titanium pins between my L5 and S1 to correct for the spondylithesis, spacers to correct for that same collapsed disc, a biopsy of the cyst and a discectomy of the ruptured and bulging discs to clean everything up. Woke up from surgery to a full bar and screw fusion from L3 to S1. I was very active prior to this. Doing Indian Runs while rucking a 30# pack is what did most of the damage.
We'll see how recovery goes. I have been up and walking since the day after surgery. I hope to be off of my walker within the next week. Pain is pretty well managed, but there are some off days. I still have a long way to go, but best of luck and healing to all of us on here.
Wow, that's a pretty big procedure. Good luck on the recovery. Keep moving, the more you move, the better you'll feel. Manage it day by day. You'll have good days, you'll have bad days. Just keep your head up and keep moving forward.
Thanks@@SweatyNindroid . Yeah, I did a fair amount of research on this prior to the surgery. Motion is Lotion.
@@jasonshaffner5652 sweatynindroid is my son’s account… I guess I was logged in when I commented 🤣
Bro. Can you share your current recovery status?
@@maheswarc128 Certainly. First a correction, I had a PLIF L2 - L5. S1 remains unfused. Cyst was benign. So I am 10 weeks post surgery as I type this. I was off my walker 2 weeks after surgery. I tapered off of my pain and nerve medication (Robaxin, Tylenol and Gabapentin) about 3 weeks ago. I have also been in PT for the past 3 weeks. I have not had any measurable pain in the past 4 to 6 weeks. I get sore if I do to much, there is a noticeable strength imbalance between my right and left legs (right is much weaker). I know this nerve recovery and not atrophy. I get tired pretty easily for now.
With all of that said, I have been very fortunate with how my injury went, my surgery and my recovery. I have little to no pain, my strength and flexibility are returning as work through PT and the X-Rays show the hardware is holding together. My final follow up with the surgeon has been moved up from May to March, as I am recover quicker than expected.
Something for everyone on here and / or going through this, keep your head up and talk to someone. I am a pretty happy-go-lucky guy, but the depression related to this is something else. Take care of yourself.
Thank you for the share man. I’m 16 weeks post hybrid L4-S1, and my back feels stronger but still have leg pain that’s slowly healing. I’m just getting antsy - I need weights again but mentally not ready.....
I had my L5-S1 surgery 45 days back , my back pain is completely gone but still have pain on my leg palm. But things are getting better.
How r u feeling now? Is your leg pain gone completely?
@@jyeshtanaresh6224 It is almost gone with workouts and physiotherapy. Being consistant with the diet and physiotherapy is the key.
1 and a half year after l4 l5 s1 spinal fusion, I started out 3 months after my surgery with calisthenics, built my way back to my upper body weights, dumbbell bench press 60kgs, but started to deadlift and squat a week ago. The deadlifts make me feel great but squats are making me feel some pain. If anyone out there has done the l4 l5 s1 fusion, let me know your input and feedback and what's your training routine
I think u should replace squat with hack squat machine or bulgarian split squat as it reduces pressure on your spine. As for deadlift u should go with dumbbell rdl 😅
Had L4-L5 fusion on 1/6/22...My pain that I was having before the surgery is completely gone. Walking a mile 2- times a day since 1/20. Only pain is from the hardware they placed in my back. Had what they call an OLIF procedure. Oblique Lateral Intervertebral Fusion. Went in through my left oblique to remove the disc and then two 3 inch incisions in lower back to place the 2 pedicle rods and 4 screws. Should be back to light weight training in 6 weeks. Best decision I ever made. Im 51 and in better than average shape.
That’s amazing. Glad you’re having great results!
@@fusiongains Thanks! Just hit the 4 week mark yesterday. Walking 6-9 miles a day for the past 2 weeks. Going back to work in 2 weeks. Training arms very lightly in the gym now.
I had my l1 -5 fused and all of the disc had to be removed aswell and they put cages In. In place of the disc I’m 24 I have a degenerative disease. What’s worse is I’ve been a big bench presser for a few years a I compete in professional arm wrestling. The surgery has been very demoralizing and I really feel like I’m going to have to give up a lot and I’m fighting to figure out what I’ll be able to do after I fully heal I’m 4 months out good luck to every one that has had it done
There was no choice on my end, the vertebrae was cutting into my spinal cord heavy and hard, could have paralyzed myself in my sleep just twisting the wrong way. Every day gets a little better.
Wow, glad it’s getting better for you.
@@fusiongains Nowhere to go but up! I'm chasing that dead-lift too. I wasn't in the 400 club. But I will be. Mark my words. I will be.
@@TheChaney that’s right. Keep pushing.
Very inspiring vid! How long after microdiscectomy did you start working out and how gradual was it? Did you fully recover from that procedure or did you go at it too soon causing the second issue?
I think I was back to full activity 6 weeks after the microdiscectomy. I was great for 6 months. Then one day I felt a weird pull in my back while warming up back squats. It wasn't even a heavy weight. Then a few weeks later, I sneezed in my car and couldn't walk for 2 weeks. That led to the fusion.
Where was your pain located for those three years???Just had my surgery 8 weeks ago at l4,l5 tlif fusion. The scar is painful about a 5 inch diameter around the scar, muscle pain. Super stiff, doesn’t seem like I’ll be as flexible as before to do squats and Romanian dead lift. Any suggestions / advice will help.Thanks
Me trying to get to the 500lb mark is what caused my ddd…..im in pain from the unstableness in my l5 s1. Front squats with 25lb plates on bar and lunges with medium weight has made my legs quicker n more stable than squatting 405 or 500lbs. After this fusion i will be going back to what i know works. I was a fool trying to lift that heavy but its the thing nobody warns you about.
It's different for everyone. What you did was great. But I've also been able to lift heavier in the years after getting fusion.
@@fusiongains have u done any crunches or normal ab work as before your fusion
Same story here. I got to 500lb dead’s. I wish someone had warned me about my poor squatting form!
I had spinal fusion at 16....I am now 33 and squatting 500 pounds. One thing I never do tho is deadlift....I have always been to afraid to start that exercise.
After the fusion a recurrent issue I have is my pelvis shoots out of line and tilts to one side meaning I have to constantly visit a chiropractor
That’s awesome that you were able to get to that level of strength! I only deadlifted on the hex/trap bar for the first 3 years after fusion. Then I transitioned to a straight bar and started very light. But nothing says you HAVE TO deadlift. Just listen to your body.
What spinal fusion did you do? I will do spinal fusion for T4/L5
@@ragadawad6158 To be honest, I can't remember exactly as it was so long ago. They can do it by keyhole now which is much easier to recover from and no big scars! When are you due to have the surgery?
@@hairyjute My surgery is on July but my surgeon did not talk to me about minimaly invasive . I hear there is VBT but for children only. I am almost 22 years old I have S shaped scoliosis both 60 degrees Lumbar and thoraco
@@ragadawad6158 Just wondering how did your surgery go?
Im having a condition called isthmic spondylolisthesis and maybe in time i'll need a fusion like u did. To hear that u had back pain for 3 years post op kind of freak me out. I love working out and i hope that i will still be able to do that after the surgery but this time im giving up on the deadlift and squat
I didn’t have to give up squatting and deadlifting. I’m fact, I squat and deadlift heavier now than I ever did before fusion. Yes I had pain for 3 years…. But it was varying degrees of pain, and it was rare for it to stop me from doing things. I’m also stubborn and don’t rest when maybe I should sometimes.
@@fusiongains glad to hear from you. Thanks for the info.
how are you doing now @@fusiongains
I had microdiscetomy years ago and it didn’t work. Docs wanted to fused me but I declined. I’m still living with pain everyday. Any suggestions?
It's a super hard decision to make. My mom had fusion, and it didn't help her at all. Even though I did have pain for a few years after surgery, I'm so much better now. So I can't really give you advice on what to do. For me, the pain was so bad every day that I was willing to do anything, including Fusion.
@@fusiongains thank you for your insight, appreciated
One more question. How did you overcome the pain after 3 years of suffering. I’m really thinking about the fusion but really scared. And lifting all that weight doesn’t worry about the adjacent segment disease? I’m really sorry to keep bothering you, it’s just seeing someone overcome really gives me hope. I hurt myself deadlifting too.
@@briankim75 no worries at all. Honestly, I just dealt with it. It was a different level of pain each day. Some days it hurt a lot more, some days less. So on the days it hurt more, I just took it a little easier and did what I could. Sadly all you can do is just push through the pain at that point. It’s a different pain than what you’re going through now. For me, I was still able to get on with my life. Whereas before the fusion, I had days where I couldn’t do anything at all. And now structurally, there’s nothing to worry about so I don’t even think about it. After fusion, there is risk that you can herniate a disc above or below the fusion. But that hasn’t happened to me.
@@fusiongains Are you still doing ok? My backs been acting up lately and am really considering the fusion surgery, still scared.
Any input would be appreciated
Trueee Inspiration!!! 🥺🥺🤩 What was your spinal fusion??? I Have T4L5 fusion in 4 months im quite scared because i really love sport and gym
I had L5/S1. Work on your recovery. Movement is king. Do what you can, and continue to push. Recovery will be hard... but you can come out better on the other side. Good luck.
Good for you bro. Really. It's nice to hear a good story
Thank you!
I had a different experience. I had L4 and L5 (I think...) Lower back fusion and didn't get the back brace, and was quite shocked they wanted me out of the hospital in 2 days. I got a walking cane, and shouldn't keep the full 4 leg walker thing I had in the hospital. I walked daily, and recovered well by the first 3 weeks and after 3 months I ran a spartan beast race which is around 15K or something. Felt great, and this fusion was about 10 years ago. 10 years later, I have lower back pains again, but not as crippling as they were before. I've since made changes to development my core muscles and stay away from things like deadlifting and keep my heavy lifting to things like chest and arms. I think the difference with you could have been multiple things, everything from the doctor who did it to your surgery to your overall body physics and to the fact that you lift a LOT heavier than I have have. I've always been around a bench max of about 265, and all other muscle groups are about average like that. YOU are able to lift heavy as fuck which I think may not be good before or after a fusion. Just my take 😊
How long did it take you after surgery to get back to the gym?
About 6 weeks and started very light and easy and built my way back up
@fusiongains on week 4 tomorrow I see surgern hope he will lift some restrictions
So many different issues that lead to a fusion. I have Schuermanns kyphosis and my L5 never fully formed
Wow, hold old were you when you had fusion?
@@fusiongains found out it wasn’t formed correctly at 20, tried therapy and shots for years but then I finally had surgery at 25. Mechanical instability really doesn’t fix itself, my disks were ok, but my L5 was moving independently of my spine and pinching neeves
Buongiorno fratello purtroppo non parlo l inglese , ho messo i sottotitoli per tradurre la tua storia .
Ti voglio ringraziare tantissimo per la tua esperienza , sono un ragazzo di 40 anni mi sono sempre allenato non sono un atleta ma un grande appassionato del powerlifting , ho avuto un intervento di acdf fusione delle vertebre c6 c7 , quelle del collo , ho anche io una placca in titanio con 4 viti , rischiavo di rimanere sulla sedia a rotelle dopo un incidente stradale .
È passato solo un mese dall'intervento vorrei da te qualche speranza se potrò tornare ad allenarmi pesante , ora sto soffrendo di una grande perdita di forza al braccio destro , grazie per tutto spero davvero in una tua risposta grazie ancora fratello .
Dimenticavo mi sono iscritto al tuo canale e messo like per poterti ringraziare di tutto .
I put your message in google translate, so I hope I got it right. Sorry to hear about your accident. My surgery was lower back, so I'm not sure on recovery for your neck. The best advice I can give is to give it time. After 1 month, I still wasn't doing very much. But after the 6 week mark I was able to start exercising lightly. Then every month I was able to do more and more. Give it time, work on strenghtening the muscles around it (neck, traps, upper back) and then hopefully you can get back to all your normal activity. Good luck.
Grazie mille buona fortuna anche a te
So what happened? Did you reach 500?
Yeah, I hit 505 a few times, and then 525 earlier this year.
Do you still live in Jersey? cause I live in jersey and have a great physical therapist and would love to meet you and possibly have you be my trainer. it would be nice to have someone know exactly what im going through. I dont wanna dead lift heavy but I can def dead, lift around 300. but I need the confidence that im doing the form right to be able to do it at home as I create my own gym.
I don’t live in jersey anymore. We moved to Georgia last summer and I opened a gym down here.
Great video good advice , ive had micro diseconomie , i was put forward for a fusion but i lost use of toes in my right foot after the op , so my surgeon is tad concerned as am i , ive been put forward for trials with a pain stimulator in my back , hopefully this is a better idea and helps , as ive had to many ops after a motorcycle accident broke thighs tendons foot n wrist repaired , 3 years is not what i was told about recovery i need a life for a bit , so your video is gold to me , do you no if a stimulater is anygood , thanks david
hey, thanks for watching and replying. I'm not familiar with a pain stimulator. I've read a little about it, but I don't really know too much. It sounds like the success rate isn't super high. But it's a lot less to recover from than a fusion. If your doctor thinks it's something that can help you long term, with minimal side effects, I'd try that before fusion. Sounds like you've been through a lot. While I'm ok several years after fusion, not everyone gets better. My mom was in constant pain for over a decade after having fusion. But she also wasn't active. As painful as it is, being active is the best thing for your back.
Thanks for posting. I’m considering getting fusion surgery. How long after surgery could you have sex?
probably as soon as the drugs wore off lol. But really, I don't remember. I don't think it was very long after. Problem is you have to be in a back brace for the first several weeks, and that's very uncomfortable. Also for the first little while, your partner will have to do all the work.
@@fusiongains thanks man
Bro please reply. I had spinal fusion l5s1 2 years ago. I’m in pain everyday and still have a numb left leg and left calf won’t grow at all, now mostly shooting pain from sciatica, cramps in left legs (bun cheek, hamstring and calf’s seize up)
I’m training “lightly” considering. I go hard on some things I know won’t put pressure on my spine cause I will feel it the next day. I was thinking of starting deadlifts again to gain side and thickness as it’s obviously one of the best exercises for it. Any recommendations and tips? Love this content.
Sorry to hear you’re still in pain. I started on trap bar deadlifts. I didn’t deadlift on a straight bar for 3 years after surgery. If you’re having that much pain and numbness, you should see your doctor. Or go to another doctor to hear a different opinion. I had pain, but no numbness or sciatica pain afterwards.
@@fusiongains yeah I am booked in soon the get radiation ablation therapy or something like that where they will burn the nerves to stop the pain. The nerves recreated themselves in different spots (think it was called chronic nerve regeneration) which gave me numbness and also hypersensitivity.
@@ZionEscapes ouch. Hopefully that helps and you can move forward.
@@fusiongains thanks mate. Loving your videos just subscribed will keep up to date. Good to see your going well.
How come 3 years of pain? I thought it was like only 1 year for full recovery. Damn.
It’s different for everyone. Some people recover quickly, some don’t recover at all.
Are there now increased danger of further injury?
Not to the area I had fused. I was warned that there is risk of herniation at different levels, but I haven't experienced anything like that.
@FusionGains thank you. I recently started lifting again but my fusion was 10 years ago.
@@dannyatkinson3744 good luck!
@@fusiongains thanks again for this video
So after spinal fusion you can deadlift 405lbs without pain? My hero, an inspiration!
Up to 525 now. No pain.
Dude, this is not heroic. I am sure your gonna hurt your back again. At least stop squat and deadlifts. Be proactive for your health.
@@engabdosalah3278 I might be using hero loosely. I was just told I need 4 levels fused and long-term restriction is no lifting over 20lbs. This kid is up to 505lbs without pain. Yes is he putting the adjacent levels under lots of stress.
@@engabdosalah3278I totally agree, if you once have injured your back or already had a surgery it's always coming back, especially if you put to much pressure on your spine with deadlifts and squads.
So you had 3 years pain ??? This is not joke man how could you manage all this pain ?
I had no choice, it was a part of my life. Just tried to deal with it everyday the best I could.
@@fusiongains you are very strong I know how hard can be it’s very painful
@@vortex21rainz26 thank you. Just gotta keep moving forward, no matter what.
Alif or Plif?
Plif
@@fusiongains cutting through all those back muscles sucks, but my doctor told me that if you do ALIF lifting heavy would be more likely to cause a hernia
This is a horrible idea. The spine is immoblile when fused and weight directly on the spine compresses it in a way that when the spine compromised you will quicken degeneration of the other disks. never back squat. Deaslifts are deadly over time. So many others ways. Look at how healthy your spine still is!!! Just not worth it ✌️🙏
Never back squat? Deadlifts are deadly? I can't even begin to tell you how wrong you are. Maybe it's not worth it for you, and that's totally fine. I recently deadlifted 540lb, at age 40. It's been a decade since fusion. I think I'm doing ok.
No matter how strong or athletic you are, the human body is not supposed to lift such heavy weights. If you always push/lift yourself to the limits, your discs will be damaged. It's not worth to ruin your health and ability to do a regular job. Ronnie Coleman is the worst example.
I disagree with your opinion. And the Ronnie Coleman example is a bad one. He had a doctor that botched a surgery, then continued doing more surgeries on him to continue getting paid.
@@fusiongains The problem is that you already had a microdisectomy and spinal fusion in your 30s and ´the question is what comes next in an expected life span of 70-80 years. It brings nothing if you can lift three time your body weight and end up crippled in chronic pain. A natural athlet like you would´ve never had to deal with back issues if you would`ve trained with normal weights; instead lifting like an ant to set up personal records. I guess Ronnie Coleman is a sad example of a "gym rat" who couldn´t take a step back after serious back injuries / surgeries. The problem is, the more painless you get, the more careless you become. Take care of yourself and your back, you only have one life / health to live.
Please don’t attempt 500 anymore.