You will get in BIG Trouble if you Cross this Arctic River!
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- Опубліковано 24 тра 2020
- If you value your freedom it is best to stay on the side of the river you are already on. The border between Norway and Russia in the Arctic is easy to cross if you really want to. It is just a river. A really wild place where few people live. Grense Jakobselv, Northern Norway.
Norwegian soldiers at the border are trained to be over-the-top friendly, informative and helpful. They are awesome guys, most of them from the south of Norway and most of the ones at Grense choose to be sent here... as is one of the toughest places to serve your military duties in Norway and that, for many, is a big plus. Love Jardfjord! :-)
Yes, friendly guys, and a friendly girl too. Yes, the area is GREAT for sure, some more videos from the area will come as well!
What's so tough about eating great food, camping, fishing, hunting and living like Kings with your comrades ?
@@adelarsen9776 They are not really camping... plus between -15 and -35 most of the time... not really your average walk in the park...
@@catnaz I meant on your spare time. No one goes camping at minus 30c
@@adelarsen9776, you are totally right :-) Awesome place to enjoy :-) Some hardcore do enjoy outdoors life in 30 below, but not many :-) Particularly, I enjoy skiing to my cabin, it takes about 1'5 h, and then the process of warming up the place and getting candles to light enough to read... magic. Who needs electricity or even the world in Jarfjord :-)
There’s a place in Estonia where you can cross the Russian border briefly, provided you’re in a vehicle that keeps moving.
Unfortunately, that unique stretch of road will probably stop being unique eventually. Quite possibly before 2030, depending on how world events develop. A border adjustment treaty that would straighten out the Saatse Boot has been signed by both nations' foreign ministers since 2014, but then the annexation of Crimea happened and ratification in parliament was put on hold. Ratification was scheduled to be voted on by the Estonian parliament in 2022, but then the invasion of Ukraine happened and it the vote got taken off schedule and everything is on hold again.
@@martenkahr3365 Russia isn’t going to exchange that land with relations being so bad. This will likely be an anomaly that won’t be solved for decades.
@@Derek032789 Hopefully the problem will be solved by Russia collapsing :)
@@Derek032789 Russia already ratified that treaty, and Estonia still didn't. And let it be that way so that unique border anomaly remains
It is called Saatse saabas/saatse boot
Norway is listed one of the best countries to live in. Why would anybody in his right mind cross to go into Russia?
You can get remotely usual Western European salary and live in Russia like a rich person, as many people do, there are plenty of them even on UA-cam
Adventure. And business. Plenty of reasons. Russia is an epic country, but sadly with the latest developments I wouldn't advice going there anymore...
@@kebman boy, its better to live there than in the balkans and most east European countries.
I was there from the Netherlands in 1984. I walked up to the Norwegian radar station. But it was night (midsummernight sun, though). The only soul I saw was a sleeping man on the parking lot that sold hot dogs and coke. I woke him up and he made us a few. He was friendly, but not very talkative. It was all very surreal.
i find it so cool that you got this close to the Barents Sea because it is basically the most northern sea you can get to, it feels so weird knowing that you were so far north and even then there is still a sea like any other that you could technically swim in
That sea must be so cold even in July. It won't be nearly as warm as Baltic Sea which is already a pretty cold one
@@Radek494 7 °C, I swam in it last August
The thing is, it's the Gulf stream that keeps it free of ice.
Hello from Michigan here in the USA....thank you for uploading this video. I always enjoy seeing different parts of the world, we live on such a beautiful planet and these border regions are areas many people don't think about or get the chance to experience in person. Despite the human activity going on around you in the video, this is a beautiful area.
Greetings from Michigan myself!
We do aye, how good is it we get to see it , you couldn't do this 20+ years back and now we can see it, incredible time we live in,east coast Australia 🤙🦘
If I were Russian, I'd be ashamed of my country.
Me and my best friend met two Russians on a coastal rock at Knivskjellodden, the northernmost point in Norway near North Cape. After a chat, the Russians shared their food and vodka with us. Then we even boldly swam together in the Bering Sea for a few seconds which was bloody cold as hell. Most fun I've ever had with Russians.
Barents sea but cool story bro
Some years ago, on a beautiful early July day, I went paddling in the Jakobselv. My aim was to get as close to the half way point as I dared, but it became deeper than I expected towards the middle. You make it sound like I was lucky! Though at the point where I paddled (probably not so far from the sign you filmed near the start of the video) the river is fairly narrow, and the other bank, on the Russian side, had fairly heavy undergrowth, so would have been difficult to patrol I think.
Yeah you don't want to get caught by the Russians for illegally crossing the border. I've read somewhere that most people get away with a heavy fine but I'm sure they could do worse
It's not the most tense border in the world, but it is getting worse again recently. In general, you don't want to give Russia any opportunities to create an international incident. Russia has many military assets in Murmansk due east of here. But we aren't at Cold War levels of distrust ... Yet.
I think you'd have to actually set foot on Russian land to potentially cause a problem for yourself. The political arrests of Westerners that I've heard about have all happened well inside Russia.
In 1980, I drove my cousin's mini cooper from Sandefjord to the North Cape and back. I haven't been to North Norway since, but really want to go again. Tusen takk for the interesting video!
Sounds like a great trip, thanks!
Former border between Finland and Norway. That used to be Finland before Russians attack on Finland!
Russians attack neighbors. We all know they are losing bad in Ukraine a non-NATO country. Please come at a NATO country. PLEASE.
Afaik, that piece of land was ceded to USSR after the Finnish attack of Leningrad during WW2. Not the Winter War.
@@TheManinBlack9054 Finnish attack on Leningrad? WHAT ON EARTH ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? Finland has never attacked Leningrad!
@@madsbuhris Mannerheim did?
@@annasolovyeva1013 so you have some special info that rest of the world dont know. Perhaps you could share the source of Mannerheims attack to Leningrad you are referring to.
very nice video. Enjoyed every minute of it. I have been to Murmansk several times and to Finland. It is nice to recall
Wow, thank you soo soo much for your Informations! This type of video should be played in school, it's so important. I didn't know that and had never learned that .. Thanks for that 👍
hi there, thanks!
About seeing Russian border soldiers: During the cold war, Soviet border guard patroling along the Soviet -Finnish border were ordered to avoid being seen by the Finnish border guards.
Whenever the Russians saw a Finnish border patrol, they hit the dirt. The Finnish border guards sometimes saw the Russians before they took cover, and the Finnish BG patrols sometimes deliberately stopped and had their coffee break right next to the borderline, knowing the Russians were laying in the mud, snow or slush.
Beautiful area! Lovely old church there too!
As a person from an island country (NZ) I find it very cool to be able to just wander up to a border like this!
This one is particularly scenic!
And here in Europe borders aren´t just in rivers and open terrain, but sometimes inside towns and cities and even buildings. The wierdest example is probably the slovakian capital of Bratislava. It´s western and southern city limits are the border to Austria. So you can literally step from a field outside a remote austrian village into the city limits of the slovak capital city.
Was there July 2018. At the first glimpse, I thought the border was not so dangerous like between East an West Germany until 1989. But people are detected a little bit more inward to Russia. A ploughed strip to detect footprints is also there. Fortunately, within most countries in the EU, the borders do not matter anymore. But there are neighbours and some of them are not friendly.
Something for the people from NZ: Some hundred kilometres to the west, there the landscape is very similar to a broad valley in the northern part of the southern island of NZ.
@@andrejluneznik9254 And inside Belgium there is no border as such but the language spoken by the residents changes.
Hello from Philadelphia USA. That was a cool video. thanks!
Hey fella, I enjoyed that , seeing places I'll never see , thank you from East coast Australia 🤙🦘
Thanks for the video! Informative and beautiful.👌🇺🇲
There's one place in the EU where you can cross three or four borders by walking in a circle about 4 meters wide.
There’s two places like that in Norway. In the, relative south, you’ve got Three-Country Cairn (Treriksröset) where you can walk between Norway, Sweden and Finland. There’s a similar point “up north”, where Norway, Finland and Russia meets. There’s a monument there but you cannot approach it from the Russian side, nor walk around it since you’re not allowed into Russia.
Drielandenpunt qualifies as well, where the Netherlands, Belgium and Germany come together.
@@RDJ2 True, and it was even once a quadripont with the Esperanto-speaking territory of Neutral Moresnet.
I miss old Juri who lived up there. He passed away many years ago. He had great stories about the Winter War and ofc WWII. He was Russian, but his father escaped the revolution and smuggled him into Norway when he was very little. And he grew up there, so close to Russia.
What kind of stories? Can you tell one?
@@sunnysunset Well, first of all the story of how his father smuggled him out of Revolutionary Russia to avoid the persecution of Christians is quite epic. Then he had stories about both the Winter Wars and WWII.
He was himself forcibly inducted into the Red Army during WWII, and forced to spy on Nazi positions around Høybuktmoen and Kirkenes, as a forward spotter for the Soviet bombers. It was an incredibly dangerous job, but he somehow survived.
Btw. Høybuktmoen infamously became the most bombed place in the whole of the WWII theatre, only outdone by Malta. To this day you can find all kinds of unexploded ordinance up there, so you're advice to be vigilant when entering certain areas. Never touch such object, but instead report it to the police.
Just a couple of years ago a previously undetonated bomb exploded close to a helicopter hangar at the airport over there. It was just pure luck that nobody got hurt, but a helicopter was totalled. You'll also find stock-loads of old disarmed bombs and German military equipment up there.
@@sunnysunset He'd also tell about his time during the Winter Wars, when he was just a kid. For instance he noted that Norwegian neutrality guards would often look the other way as Finnish soldiers illegally entered Norway while trying to escape from Soviet troops many times their size.
The Finns would never light a fire, despite desperately cold conditions in the winter. Instead they'd rely on thick wool clothing and body heat to remain warm. For instance they'd sit in a "bus line" close up to each other to keep warm, and they'd even sleep sitting like that. In short, the Finns were some incredibly hardy and well-trained soldiers.
Alas old Juri passed away many years ago. The army up there held him in high regard, though, so they helped him with helicopter rides in and out of GJE to the hospital in Kirkenes before he finally submitted to God.
Wow! That is so beautiful in the June sunshine.
I was there at Grense Jakobselv in summer 2020, way crowded place with tourists on that hot summer day.
Weeks before I went there I asked for permission to fly with my drone at the border, and it was fine as long as I didn't record any Russian military installations.
Those is a place I have always wanted to visit. Cool video.
Thanks for the video interesting stuff .
Nice Viseo! Thanks for sharing
Hi and greetings from the other side of that border. Its really that close .. My Norwegian friend from Bergen and I wanted to meet like this while Covid restrictions where applied I wish to see Tromso and the Norwegian fjords. I love the high quality of your videos. I dont know or i can manage to come that close i even dont know or its allowed. I know Ivangorod RU and Narva EST is more easier. Russian borders are as usual heavily guarded visible and unvisible. In my eyes one of the best protected borders on European continent...But Russian borderguards are mostly friendly guys doing their job.
I live in Michigan here in the United States and we have areas here that border Canada with just a river separating the two countries. It's a neat experience being able to wave at someone standing on the other side in a different country.
Tromso is a great place to visit. I am from the Western US and have been all up and down the US west coast, The Sierra Nevada and Cascade mountain ranges, I have been to Hawaii too and have yet to find a more Naturally beautiful place than the Norwegian Arctic. Tromso was very nice I hope to go back some day.
Russia is best. ❤️ A Greek Citizen. 🇬🇷🇬🇷🇷🇺🇷🇺
I bet they are. Now with even more men being mobilized in Russia, I doubt many Russian men will be allowed over, sadly. Wish you the best. And peace between brothers.
@@kebman no one is being mobilized for several months already, it was over in autumn, and there're no specific issues with border crossing.
6:02 Probably the most beautiful and risky location for a school.
Yes, during the Cold War it should have been location for the movie "Red Dawn", about a Soviet invasion...cool movie about some schoolkids being involved in fighting the Soviet troops..
Awesome scenery
Beautiful place. 👍👍👍
i would love to visit Norway, it's just beautiful! I've heard only good things about the country, hopefully i can visit someday
Come on over! I'll make you some coffee and tell you stories about the Winter War, and that day in 1968 when the fog lifted and the entire Soviet Army had driven right up to the Norwegian border.
Norway is a very beautiful country! Very expensive
@@kebman Were they looking for Czechoslovakia and got lost? 😀
Yes, the school is no longer open. Grense is just "cabins" now. Besides the military, no-one lives here permanently anymore. The last house to have had someone living permanently is the house by Lillesanden, some few years ago (not many) the owner of the house died. By the way, guess where is taken the picture of my profile... :-)
Interesting stuff! Thank you
Greetings from Wisconsin, USA here.
Thank you for taking the time to video this, these are some of my favorite kinds of videos, and you got some really cool shots in here.
Just out of curiosity, I think I hear booms in the background at different points, what exactly are those?
I think he's adding some sound fx lol. It's a pretty quiet place, except for the constant wind.
@@kebman gotcha, was wondering if the wind was maybe causing the booms on the mic lol
Beautiful beach
You got a pretty nice view of Mordor!
@Randy Stair Forever Russia. they mean Russia
Stunning views
Januray, during the winter storm, is an EPIC time to live on such a place. I speak from experience. Never lived in GJE, but... I was stationed at GSV, and I grew up in the North. Great to see the place again!
This reminded me of Tom Scott's video about The Saatse Boot.
When I went to Estonia to city called Narva you could see a similar sight. On one side a small but yet busy city, while on the other its wilderness with border towers. Based on information from locals, the outline of the person in the tower is likely a cardboard model, or something of the likes. But do you really wanna find out?
There are also videos of China - North Korea border. The videos tend to include people on the other side (border guards and others), even in less populated areas.
How can you see Wales (4:06)? Surely Scotland and England would be in the way?....🤔
In view of what's been going on with Russia invading Ukraine, I have absolutely no intention whatsoever of going to Russia. Back in 2016, when flying from Toronto to Delhi, the flight went over Russian air space. That was close enough for me.
That was a good little video
Winter could be killer..place is heaven though..beautiful blue water..
You are unfortunately correct about the winter. Up there now..
I also went to Norway but not that northernley😁
5:46 did you alerted the ruski?😅
jeg bor i italy,jeg har været magne gang i norge. jeg håper skal dra til GRENSE JAKOBSELV,denne sommer.jeg håper snakke norsk med local manner
Velkommen skal du være! :) Grense Jakobselv og området rundt er fantastisk.
A really nice piece of film. It is an education to see what the Norwegian-Russian border looks like.
5:48 that's the "tin can" I wrote about on another video. It can easily get down to -50 degrees Celsius there in the winter, and then those tin cans aren't nice places to stay.
Between the two World Wars this was a boundary between Norway and Finland. Finland had a small strip of land connecting to the Arctic Ocean. There was a nickel mine, which explains why the Soviet Union wanted the area to the east of this border.
I am surprised that the Soviet Union did not try to snip off a small slice of Norway as a reward for liberating the extreme northeast of Norway from the Third Reich.
Norway-Russia has had a peaceful border for 700 years, (only neighbour Russia havent fought against), why mess it up over some desolate territory that they didnt need
@@Spacemongerr also a river provides a perfect border, why fix something that isn't broken
@@Spacemongerr The Soviet Union technically fought the semi-independent quisling regime of Vidkun Quisling on behalf of the lawful government of Norway. Quisling was an abject puppet of Nazi Germany and recruited troops to fight the Soviet Union.
@@Spacemongerr It’s not really just some random desolate land. It has geo political significance.
@@PaulBrower-py7tv Moreover Quisling was shot after the war for treason. Btw. many interesting stories from that place, both from the Winter War and from WWII. There are stories of German and Soviet soldiers dying in each others arms during the winter. It got so cold that they tried to stay warm together rather than fight, but they died anyway due to the extreme cold up there.
It's interesting that you didnt show the bunkers that are about 500m? away from the church on the otherside nearby the river.
Also the river is like 10-20m across on certain spots and being dumb kids at a time we've jokingly swam across to Russia.
Those two mountains block tv signals radio too and we only had like a couple of stations that we could listen to.
Reading or watching VHS tapes were a way to pass time, lego's and hiking/camping too.
I've spent many summers there, mosquitos are vicious there.. Even bapthised there.
Nice video.
Thanks for driving all the way north to show us the border.
That was a lovely beach..... Nice to see the place where a nation physically ends.... So much of snow
The beach is where the border guards are baptized every spring and autumn. The tradition is to get naked and run into the icy cold water.
I live in Canada on a remote River Border with the USA.
That's how it works , you just can't enter the USA with a row boat without permission.
With the exception that Canada and the USA are friendly neighbours, can't say the same about Norway and Russia sadly
I’m American and fish our shared waters. Canada doesn’t want us on your side either without permission.
Compare with for instance the border between Norway and Sweden, where you can just cross over without a passport if you're from Sweden, Norway or some other Nordic country.
@@francisdec1615 You can travel to or through any Shengen agreement countries without border controls so long as you are already in a shengen country.
@@josephvanas6352 I went from Sweden to Germany in May last year, and I had to bring my passport with me on the plane. And the customs searched through my stuff both before leaving Sweden and when entering the Munich airport on the way home. To Norway I never needed a passport in my whole life, and I was never stopped at the border. I have actually crossed that border already as a 16 yo, on my moped.
Reading the notice at the beginning.... How do you photograph something in an aggressive manner? :D
Hi there, yes.....thought about that myself..weird
Maybe if you shake your fist while taking the photographs.
probably means like giving the finger, or mooning and maybe saying obscenities while filming/photographing toward the border.
It's illegal to do anything towards the border that could be seen as offensive. Flipping the bird, mooning, etc. All that will get you fined or jailed, even in Norway.
Are those cross grave markers made out of wood and lasted since the 1880s?!! Wow.
Editing sounds in?
why was the beach blocked off
Nice atmospheric video with gun and bomb effects )
I want to try ride my bike there, I hope its Totally legal and safely)
You should try it for sure..
Totally legal as long as you keep the speed limits. ;) Note that there is far more traffic police in Norway than in Sweden. Don't know about Finland tho. Norway also likes to hide the traffic cameras, whereas Sweden usually puts them before junctions. It is a great trip to go up there. Hotels are expensive af, but AirBnB is quite affordable IMHO especially if you get off the beaten path.
I've been to this place and driven on the road that follows the river. While there, I met Norwegian border patrol soldiers and they were very friendly. This region is the closest you can get to the Russian border.
Hi from NW england
Can you give the map location of the chair at 5:00 in the video
Weren't you tempted to go inside and explore the abandoned school? I would be all over that. Also, why not go say hi to the person living in the middle of nowhere? He probably would have enjoyed the company. So many missed opportunities here.
It's no longer trespassing after break-in and entry. ;) But yes, the people over there are very friendly, and almost all of them have some story to tell. The older ones could even tell you about WWII, and perhaps earlier. The most interesting guy I met there was Juri Kåsereff, tho. He was smuggled to Norway by his father after the Russian revolution. He had many great stories about the Winter Wars and WWII in that areas. Sadly he passed away many ears ago.
Hallo , i would to know more about Wernar Pedersen, but at the Moment i did not find nothing , have you some links about that story please ? Thank you.
Compliments for your video.
www.abcnyheter.no/nyheter/2015/07/05/194408795/sovjets-mini-invasjon-av-norge
@@sandvenexplorer thank you , some yerars ago i iwas there, It Is a very lovely place . I also heard about border troubles due to local childrens that where playing in the River
@@silvanbeppigno4050 That is interesting..Not the best place for kids to play around that river I suppose..
Bellissima friend 👍👍👍
So it's not okay to cross the river but can I throw a rock across the river
Please make video Finland Russia border crossing
a very beautiful area.
imagine if on the other side it were the usa, then it would be continuously filled with overly exuberant military types and the forest would be chopped and filled with overly exuberant station houses and they would be patrolling back and forth in the river.
Glory to the heroes who gave us freedom.
My country, Sweden, is beautiful. But Norway, especially northen Norway is of the charts!
There should be a disclaimer or warning that the sound effects are fake. Otherwise the video was great.
Hallo , nice video , in your opinion the shoots where fired for soldiers training or for real border troubles ? Do you think they have been fired in the Russian side ? Thank you.
I d like to visit that place.
The forbidden river crossing. One day, I shall cross it.
Cool, let me know and we make a cool video about it
@@sandvenexplorer will do lol
a reminder earth is for everyone not just humanity. go where you wanna go
The algorithm sent me here today …
i wanna to like this man same hubby like me enjoy your adventure i like scandenavian ....and russia i will visit there and then to norway or alaska two option but i didnt like to do it alone bcs of fear ...
Just go..Alaska is something else, was there once, you should check it out if given the opportunity!
Lmao the war sound effects
Why is there gunfire at 2:30
I've paddled in the Barents Sea, it is bloody freezing even in June!
❓(2:01) I was shocked at how tiny the Barents Sea is! It appears to be just a little snow-filled gully.... 😁
@@HighlanderNorth1 I looked at your comment and thought ???? I then watched (2:01) again and laughed, I see what you mean. Well observed.
Even when this place is prettymuch in middle of nowhere, i still feel sorry for you guys, it must be frustrating to have borders with orcs.
a lonely shed on the Bank and a fence. post-Apocalypse
I'd like to see all those crossing into the US, go here and try that.
I might cross that river in a small dingy and then demand a free hotel and pocket money ...and only the best food and vodka....
...all with no documents whatsoever....
"Churchyard" 😋 100% Norwegian confirmed
excellent salmon fishing ...
My daughter was married to a guy from Sweden and he complained a lot about Russians crossing the border to steal swedish bicycles. Is that a problem in Norway? I was wondering.
tasty waves!
They use the word "gonna* in Norway too
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I just swimmed over halp
I really like Norwegian culture.
Whats with the fake shooting audio?
Darn. So no obscene gestures?
It's looks like the Vikendi map
Excellent movie Kris. You sure do move around a lot my friend. Will you travel to Russia? Maybe see St Petersburg?
I have actually moved up here now, will stay in the north. Found a job here. There will be trips to both Russia and Finland when things open up, Finland first. Murmansk for sure..Cold up her, but wild and interesting..
Sandven Explorer Excellent Kris, I’m pleased for you bro. I hope you’re happy there and you settle quickly.
What a place to live, it looks amazing. Do you get Polar Bears up there?
@@deltanovember1672 No, but there is a population of brown bears in the area, a shared population between Norway, Russia and Finland, hope to see one!!
Sandven Explorer I hope you get to see them from a safe distance, will you carry bear spray or perhaps a pistol?
Guns only permitted when on a hunt, neither is bear spray for some reason. Probably cause the wrong people would use it for the wrong reason, but a big knife I have at least! Bears are quite scared here I think cause all the hunting in the past and still going on, not like the large national parks in America. A guy in Russia was eaten alive last year though and he only had a pen....did not work, but I figure a knife at least is a lot better than only hands when a bear is on top of you getting ready to eat...Saw a docu about a girl in Russia too, eaten...she was on the phone with her mom while the bear ate, took about an hour....horrible beyond belief, so even though I love bears and want many bears around I still dont walk around like it is a cute teddy bear u know..
Is that real gunfire or is this just doctored into the video for amusement?
The second you wrote, the same identical gun firing sound track Is in his video of the 3 Borders point.
That sound track Is clearly a fake only to get shit on Russia country!!! Bad story...
how is this placetoday? is it full of military?
I live up here. No, its as calm as ever. Only anomaly so far has been the Warner defector. Governmental threat assessment states that the threat of invasion is not higher than pre-invasion of Ukraine. Fun fact: The brigade that was stationed up here in Murmansk, got obliterated in Ukraine. One of the best equipped brigades in the entire Russian army. So the odds are probably lower now. xD
Norway is throwing money, militarily and humanitarian aid to Ukraine. I am proud of my country for that, and proud of our former prime minister Jens Stoltenberg. But most of all in awe if the bravery of the Ukrainian people.
Slava Ukraine!
@@tony_1980 Stay safe brave vikings, it sucks to live near borders with orcs. Much love from Czechia
Oscar II was the king of Sweden & Norway.
Why I knew without watching that there's going to be Russia the other side.. you may encounter only problems there
In 1958 a relative of mine drowned on this river while patrolling it as a military....
Sorry to hear that! He did an important job for sure back then in the Cold War..
@@sandvenexplorer Dunno. But his girlfriend was pregnant. By accident I learnt about this for me unknown child last year in Cyprus! Long and complex story!
@@sisselnilsen4699 Oof, sad story!
Sorry to hear that... Just 10 years later, the Soviet Army rolled their tanks straight up to the Norwegian border in a show of strength. Your relative did a very important job.
proud is not the word i would use now a days
interesting
Wtf so much snow in Mai/June?
It's beyond Arctic Circle.
What was that at like 4 15 when he says that’s a great beach there
did someone just cross this river the other day, but in the opposite direction
Yes, someone did...