Shanna "Liz" Golyar Analysis (Cari Farver Murder Case)
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- Опубліковано 17 гру 2020
- This video answers the question: Can I analyze the Shanna “Liz” Golyar murder case (homicide of Cari Farver)? Support Dr. Grande on Patreon: / drgrande
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One of the craziest cases I've ever seen. This woman was COMMITTED. The level of dedication was absolutely mindblowing. She burnt her own house down, killed her pets, SHOT HERSELF!!!
I’m way too lazy to ever murder anyone. So much work!
@@rachelraquel758 😂 I never thought of that but yeah true.
Same here. You couldn't make this story up! No one would believe it.
@@rubytuesday5412 It's amazing what people get up too. 😂
@@rachelraquel758 it’s so sad but I’ve said this too like damn these people put in way too much energy into a murder they will get caught for in the end a way 😂
Dr. Grande really is a triple threat: he analyzes criminals, gives us humor AND serves looks
❤ this comment :)
“Serves looks”? I am sorry but you lost me. What does that mean? He serves us his good looks?
@@dianebarrett9714 His facial expressions.
@@istateyourname4710 Ohhh, of course.
@@dianebarrett9714 lollll
The idea that she wanted complete and total domination of Farver even after death is so chilling. Forget serial killers, this is the kind of person that gives me nightmares. I’m so glad Dr. Grande covered it! This story truly had everything.
This one is cutt from the same cloth as serial killers. A full blown psychopath.
When Farver didn't go to her dad's funeral, I immediately knew she was dead. The ineptitude of the original cops assigned to this case only served to increase the suffering of her family.
The cops were not inept.
@@trawlins396 How weren't they, exactly?
defund the police
I've just watched the Netflix documentary on this case. It was very good. I knew she was dead when her mum said she hadn't seen her in over a year. And no one seemed to have seen her. Liz Golyer was then the only person that could have been doing the harassing (as strange as it seemed). The Police should have done far more to try to track Cari down as a Missing person but they assumed that because there were messages from her phone that she was alive.
💯 If you Google the case and read the article about key pieces of information not in the documentary, you'll see that Golyar sent Cari's job a resignation email (as Cari) and named Shanna Golyar (her real name) as her replacement. How could the cops have overlooked this? Mayberry bumbos. If the 2nd team hadn't taken the case on, it never would have been solved. Poor mother of Cari Farver. 😥 Her daughter got mixed up with a dude who would stick his dick into anything and this is what happened.
Oh I just learned about this case the scary thing is she prob would have gotten away with the murder if she didn’t pretend to be the victim for years! Very very odd case! So sad that one 2 second meeting could lead to this woman’s death! So terrible! This lady was all sorts of crazy!
Crazy can be very, very crafty. She damn near got away with it. But she couldn't stop with the shenanigans.
One of the reasons why she continued this for so many years was to keep Krupa around her. He didn't want a relationship yet she did. The crazy stalking she and the guy continuously experienced gave them a reason to constantly talk and bond with each other.
Try that chapter! It's a really good true Crime UA-cam channel and often crosses paths with the sorts doctor Grande covers. But from a different perspective.
I wonder how she lured the victim to an isolated location. Did she send a message pretending to be Krupa? Definitely not a stretch.
@@PardonMyPresence - I believe she waited for her outside Dave Kroupa's apartment. As Farver got into her car, she attacked her there. Perhaps forced her at knife point to drive somewhere where she stabbed and killed her, in her own car.
She's probably writing letters too herself from Dave in prison
😂
Perfect for loan payment officers
Lolllllllll
Lol 😂
Exactly. What a nutcase
This woman’s dedication is achievable only by true crazy. She went undetected for YEARS and would probably have never been caught if the police hadn’t given her case a second look. Scary.
"And what was your previous occupation?" "Full time phone stalker. Well experienced"
Lol now she's probably working at a phone bank in prison.
@@blyxx7450 I hope not! 👀😬
You forgot, “Homicide experience”.
I'm so sad for Cari Farver!!! She was an amazing woman I'm so sad for what happened to her and her reputation
I think Golyer was triggered by the fact that Cari Farver appeared to have been allowed to move in with Dave within days of their meeting, whereas Dave kept telling HER that he was going to play the field. Golyer is one truly despicable human being.
Yes. Dave kept it 100 with her. Something bad wrong with the lady🤦♂️ shits scary af
What a story - yikes! It would be interesting to know what type of a childhood Ms. Golyar had, and if there is any known mental illness in her family. The big take away from this video is the need for further mental health education/training for law enforcement professionals, especially detectives. Thank you Dr. G for unraveling this complicated crime and explaining it in terms we can all understand. Wow.
Her father was very abusive towards her mother. Her mother died when she was still young and she was placed in the Foster system and eventually adopted. She states that she was abused by at least one Foster family. Not an excuse for her actions, but it's interesting to note.
Read the book A Tangled Web by Leslie Rule a must read!
watch daniel kirsty she did a lengthy podcast episode in depth into golyar case and talk about her childhood in the begin
Are you looking for excuses for her to justify her crimes?
@@franniepannothing interesting to note! There are so many abused children who became very caring and loving individuals. Don’t use abuse as an excuse to abuse others.
I am LIVING for your dry sense of humor. Thank you for explaining the hills and valleys of bi-polar disorder. It’s often a very misunderstood mental disease. Thank you Dr. Grande. ❤️
Comment 36: your analysis was indeed “*instructive or informative in a way that improves the mind or character*” which is the first time I have you ever use the word *edify* and it did indeed instruct me there are *less than desirable* characters whose aim in jealousy is to destroy the mans character and the object he gets is nothing less than wounds, dishonour, and irretrievably lost disgrace. Thanks Dr. Grande for the valuable lessons you apply each time to practical life. 🍀🍀🍀😃🍀🍀🍀
Love, or at least romantic infatuation, does strange and sometimes terrifying things to people. It can become an all-consuming obsession and constant source of anxiety. Never underestimate what people will do for “love”.
Omggg I love your profile pic! pyramid head is awesome c:
@@xxhayziexx Haha, thank you! You’re the first person to guess it correctly; I did a cosplay a while back and that was the helmet.
That’s not love but okay lol
@@Hellakiddie Hence the quotation marks
An obsession is a dangerous thing for sure
I'm not really commenting, only speculating about how it would look if I were to leave a comment...
Thanks for being so prolific Dr. Grande, you're making isolation more bearable 🤗
I am not speculating but surely call yours the best commentary of this vid!
@@mrooz9065 That is high praise indeed! The good doctor gets so many great and insightful comments on his videos. I am thankful and humbled 🥰
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Brilliant!
😂😂😂Nice one!
I just finished reading this book by Leslie Rule, daughter of the awesome true crime writer Ann Rule. This woman was sooo deranged!
Great book, highly recommend. It’s called A tangled web. I would rather be single than go on any dating websites. Been there, done that. Never again! Too many psychos! Thanks for your analysis Dr. Grande. Stay safe everyone!!!
Thanks for the heads up on Leslie Rule’s book. I am an ardent fan of Ann Rule but had no idea she had a daughter who was following in her footsteps. This case cries out for a full length book. Dr Grande pointed me in the direction of this crazy crazy case but you provided the solution with your recommendation. Thanks so much.
I just ordered this book from Apple ebooks. Leaving now to read it.
@@dianebarrett9714 Leslie's writing style is very similar to her mother's, except that I did not see the words "pellucid" or "ebullient" in this book.
@@dianebarrett9714 the daughter actually did not want to follow her footsteps...however she said she was compelled to write the book because sooo many of Ann’s fans asked her to. She did a fantastic job! Very similar writing. Could not put the book down!!!
I was wondering if the writer was related to Ann Rule because of the true crime nature of the book.All I had to do was read the comments.
Obviously all deaths are horrible, but when you kill pets you are a special kind of monster.
Her own pets at that! My "fur babies" are my world, I wouldn't hurt them for anything. Mind blowing.
Horrible
Killing her pets shows her insane level of callousness.
TOTALLY agree!
@@Miss_Wonderful1 that's really beyond callous.
In my view, a person like this HAD to had something in the past, the problem is nobody had caught her until now. And I don't mean something as serious as murder but maybe some petty thieving, a lot of lying and a lot of manipulation that if she was good, she could have stayed under the radar for most of her life.
You're likely right, but what could be done with the information? And by whom?
@@jguenther3049 By the time they caught up to her it was too late.
@@komoriaimi Definitely!
Her first child was killed by her when he was a few months old. Cody Nathaniel Goyler's cause of death was shaken baby syndrome, and she blamed it on her intellectually disabled boyfriend. She worked the detectives in that case just like she did in this case, and her boyfriend went to prison for the death of her infant son. He served his sentence and is now out of prison but he has said that she called him at work and told him that she accidentally dropped the baby. She told her boyfriend that the baby was non-responsive so she shook him to get him to breathe, and he started breathing but died the next day. The detectives believed her story instead of the boyfriends and she got away with that murder.
@@corlisslee7156not just that but this also was not even her first issue of stalking others.
“He said she was very pretty, and he was attracted to her right away”
Wut
its proof guys say anything just to get some for some time
My sediments exactly.
@@Redmanticore same thought.
People are attracted to whomever they're attracted to. It's not ours to judge, honestly.
@@setaside2 Maybe observation rather than judgement in my humble opinion...
Ahhh. A cold icy Friday with a new Dr. Todd Grande video. I'm smiling once again. Hope you all are well. Peace!
You know your Dr. Grande addict. When you look at you phone between 5 and 6 pm waiting for his next video. Loved this one so much I'm going to watch it again!!!
@@ginashemeth7708 yes. I caught that right after I posted. Blame it on multitasking while waiting for Dr. Grande!!! Happy Holidays 😊 🎄
@@thereal4113 my coworkers have learned to tell me it’s time for my break!
@@ginashemeth7708 I'm dyslexic so it's not a function of learning its organic.
I'm also technologically challenged but I have a fairly strong creative impulse, so I carry on with the hope that people can overlook my grammar and understand the deeper concepts I ponder and deliver through my writting!
I had to watch it twice so I could write down all the people involved bc I felt lost the first time around . So many people and for some reason, I struggle with keeping stories without faces straight when last names instead of first names are used to identify the people involved
Sometimes I feel so tired with my busy schedule and the different things I need to do...
Then I think to myself, well Dr. Grande uploads a video every single day, posts videos on Patreon, writes books, has a podcast, reads messages from subscribers, while also having a family life. All this motivates me to keep going.
Thank you for being such an amazing role model. You work ethic is truly admirable.
Please analyze actor Tom Cruise especially concerning his most recent outburst and his behavior in the past. And his ties with Scientology.
Do they still harass people? Might be risky to go for the golden boi
Good call. That would be interesting.
I think Tom Cruise is awesome but I read he came from a slightly dysfunctional household. Tom said his dad was the master of chaos(hope I spelled that correctly) . And his parents divorced when he was young . He was the youngest child he had three or four older sisters. I think he was thrust into superstardom at a young age. And everything he does is scrutinized by the press. It's probably left him with some issues. I think he would benefit from sessions with Dr. Grande. And I think adorable little Bella should sit in on the sessions because dogs are therapeutic. That's my analysis let me know what you think in the comment section 💪🏻👍🏻🙏🏻♥️✝️😄
Oh heck yeah!
@@maniacalmadness5419 he's an abusive psycho scientologist, all that anyone needs to know about him.
(but dr.grande did an excellent job of analyzing his latest freakout that happened in the past month in his latest video)
No homicidal stalker should definitely be checked by default, along with No arsonists and No pet killers. It just seems like common sense 🤷😂 great analysis Dr. Grande!
Idk.. I thought that joke was pretty tasteless. I don’t like sarcastic or snarky comments involving anyone who isn’t the “villain” in these analysis videos; even if it’s supposed to be a “joke”. The snide comments about Anna Nicole Smith in her video really rubbed me the wrong way and I felt like the joke about “no homicidal stalker” checkbox was unnecessary and kinda cruel. The guy didn’t know how mentally ill and unstable Goylar was and he didn’t do anything to warrant any of her actions against himself, others, and even animals in her pursuit of keeping him in her life. I don’t know if he carries any guilt from what happened but regardless, it wasn’t his fault for trying to find love online and for assuming that his dates were not going to be murderous stalkers. That being said; I do laugh at the jabs he makes at the obviously bad people in the videos as long as the jokes aren’t making fun of their appearance or any type of handicap/disability (which to my knowledge, Dr Grande has never done). I know I sound like such a party pooper but the snark in this video really did bother me and your comment was the first one that mentioned the specific joke so I felt like you’d be a good person to share my feelings with. Which makes me sound like I have a few loose screws but I don’t have a plethora of people to discuss Dr Grande videos with, lol.
I couldn't be paid to use a dating app. Even if I checked the no homicidal maniacs box, they'd come from everywhere.
Don't blame the cops. That's not exactly a red flag. A lot of adults who are on drugs disappear and don't attend family funerals.
They suck ass. I miss the hood ol days where it was easy to meet people. It’s not easy anymore unless you go to a bar. And no thanks🤦♂️
What shocked me was that after hooking up with a stalker using an online dating site, he still went back to use online dating!
"I wonder if these officers went to the Frank Drebin school of police investigation". BOOM! ( Sgt. Frank Drebin played by actor Leslie Nielsen)
No animal-lover hurts their own pets!!!
Or any animal for that matter. Its sad
Many times people sacrifice things they love to get things they want, such as rain, other people, and sympathy.
Sociopaths have no problem hurting animals or people.
@@audralynn7454 rain???? Wtf?? This isn't the 1400s!
@@ravynwoods5902 she must be absolutely without a heart.
Ooohhh almost 18 minutes...excited
Dr Grande is following me as I watched a documentary on this crazy case just last night 👀
The 20/20 episode?
Yes Dr. Grande, I found this video and all your other videos to be highly edifying.🙂
Fascinating case and brilliant analysis, thank you!❤️
The H.H. Holmes case, please. Thanks Dr. Grande. have a great weekend.
Yes, now THAT would DEF be illuminating!
Schizoid or just antisocial? You decide.
Another interesting, elucidating and edifying video by Dr. Grande! And, an important warning about the destructive force of jealousy. Sadly, this case is somewhat resonant of the Chris Watts case in that there were no indicators that either would perpetrate murder so the victim could neither prevent nor take measures to protect themselves from such violent acts.
As always, many thanks for all the valuable lessons and insight you share with us!😊
I find that very hard to believe that she had no previous history of stalking or obsessive behavior. Guarantee she did.
Another case I knew nothing about, but learned a lot! Thank you, Dr. Grande. Within the last few days, I read a comment about the change in your introduction. That person missed your dropping books and the mention of science. I do also. The books were unique. Also, I thought it a really good idea to stress that your presentations are built on scientific study. It certainly seems to be what your followers are drawn to and especially appreciate.
So interested in your analysis of this woman, for lack of a better term. 🙄 I've seen this case covered before by various true crime channels, and just CANNOT believe the lengths this woman went to...she was OBSESSED. And poor Cari...just an innocent sucked into her terrible web of craziness. My heart breaks for her family. Its unbelievable that Liz got away with all she did for so long. That blows my mind.
Edit: Is it mean for me to also add that I think Kroupa must have been the most gullible and stupid man alive for not noticing some of the OBVIOUS signs that Liz was behind this craziness? Just my humble opinion.
They were both getting stalking text messages at the same time while they were together. I could see how he wasn't suspicious of her.
@@anon2095 exactly.
Imo he definitely should've been very suspicious especially because the texts from Cari sounded nothing like her.
But to be fair he had no idea her mother had reported her missing.
I was kinda feeling like her whole family didnt really know her. Here she was this hardworking person who gets killed and her reputation is easily destroyed by a stranger? I did question their intelligence but didnt say it out loud.
Just watched the Netflix documentary. I'm with you on this one. The guy dated 50 women after all this original drama??? Something not right about him for sure.
This is a very interesting case, i cant belive that i havent heard of it till now. Thanks for yet again awesome video Dr. Grande. 👍
Lol. Frank Drebin quote: 'Like a midget @ a urinal, I was going to have to stay on my toes.'
Thanks 🙏🏼😇 TGIF ✨ have a good weekend and make some time for yourself!! ❤️
Great analysis doctor as after hearing this case today from Mr Ballen's podcast I wouldn't be surprised if you start hearing from much of his fans after going online as I have for a better understanding of this case & events. Great Job 👍
I saw this story done in depth, I was like 😳 Whaa?
It was truly creepy, bizarre.
This dude dated 30 to 40 women in like a year. Man, I'm weak
Looks like he liked a lot of women and drama in his life, I can't imagine dating that many people. WTH! 😎
Very puzzling indeed. He works in an auto supply store, and judging by his pics., he's no oil painting. There must be a serious man shortage in Omaha.
@@makepeace234 I guess based on these women's pictures he was into all comers
I would hope you're more "Discerning", than " Weak".
@@makepeace234 🤭🤣👏🙌
Dr. Grande, all I can say about this video is, wow! All of those events after a ten second interaction! And she killed her pets and shot herself... Wow!
10 seconds? You know she showed up on purpose bc she knew he had another woman in his apt, right? I'm sure she knew about Cari well before that brief encounter. The hate was already there. She just wanted to put eyes on her and create a disturbance to the romance that night.
Another interesting topic. It’s always Grande time!
Fascinating case and you cover it so well. Thank you!
Excellent analysis as always!
So early!
I know you're hammering out the pop culture videos non-stop but I really liked the analyses videos of disorders you used to do & am wondering if you'll do some more at some point, even if they're not a money-maker.
I second this...
I very much liked those videos; as well. So educational. For me, they are like the seasoning that makes the whole even better and adds great depth of "flavor".
Watching this very episode on ID Discovery and you summed it up so well by explaining personality disorders. Very clean and concise.
Great analysis.I found it extremely "edifying". Thanks Dr Grande you are the best!.
Your reference to Scooby-Doo always cracks me up! 😂
I know that not all "local police" are trained in psychological disciplines, cyber sleuthing, or evidence gathering; but the suspiciously abundant drama surrounding the perpetrator reminds me of the need to be the center of attention, as in Munchausen disease.
As another viewer mentioned, I lost track of who's who. (Photos help.)
Thank you again Dr. Grande for not analyzing anyone, but just speculating what could be going on in a case (exactly) like this! 😉
Talking about fatal attractions 😨 it took only 10 sec
Scary
Great video Dr. Grande!
Your subtle sarcasm gets me every time 😂
I couldn’t believe she would kill her own pets to frame the other woman. No soul. She caused so much pain to so many people and creatures. Because of her ego.
Excellent video!
Whoa!!! Dr. grande,It’s exhausting just hearing about everything this Golyar character did...she really applied herself, didn’t she?! TY We luv ya, Dr. G!😻
Dr. Grande- You have led me to research “mate retention tactics” in both males and females. You are really, really helpful. I don’t think ANYONE would clue me other than you. They have had opportunities, and never cared that much. Not even my professors who watched me being abused on campus. Thank you!
Quite edifying. Interesting case, Dr. G. Thank you!
Perfect once again Dr. Grande. Thank you enjoy your holiday break aswell
I just found this channel and i am loving it 💞
Never heard of this one...great analysis as always 👌
Dr. Grande I love the Frank Drebin comparison. Thank you for the video was excellent as usual.😊
Livin' for Dr. Todd's Scooby-Doo analogy, Dr. You are not just a gentleman and scholar, your clever wit steps right up in such a sharp way... shows what a humorous man you are as well
When they returned to his apartment on their first date and his ex "Liz" coincidentally happened to call to insist that was the night she had to come and get the random crap she had left there for months, I immediately thought to myself "stalker". I can only imagine how quickly she appeared after he told her it was ok to come by when you consider that she passed Cari on her way out.
Wait what? Can u clarify? The time line is so confusing. He dated both women in one night? Was the same night both women crossed paths is when the murder happened??
@@GravyGoodbread yes sounds like it. One woman was leaving his house after the first date and the other was coming in to pick up her stuff. That's when they cross pathes for a brief second.... very odd that this woman would murder the other after such a small encounter, right
@@moonstruck562 did she kill her THAT night?
@@GravyGoodbread I don't believe anyone knows. It never came up, as she's still proclaiming her innocence
@@GravyGoodbread No. She killed her somewhere around daytime another day. The guy told the police that she left her in the morning for work. I think she saw her after their first date. I also think she already stalked him.
Hope all is well with you and your family, Dr. Grande.
Just when I was about to leave a comment about this specific case you come out with a video! 🙌 🙆♀️
This was covered by 20/20 a few weeks ago, and I thinking like you that this would be perfect for Dr. Grande to deconstruct.
@@mareelovely I saw that one! Such a crazy case
Brilliant like always Dr Grande
Best takeaway: "Don't underestimate the power of jealousy."
Excellent analysis!
Very edifying!! Thank you
What I don't understand is.. After five years, everyone was still receiving text messages from the victims phone. If the victim was dead.. Who was paying her phone bill?
Liz duh
@@Catsss1017 Very educated response…
Autopay was activated probably from Cari's bank account. I'm wondering if she had a lock or passcode on her phone could she have still hijacked it? I suppose if it was fingerprint lock she could've just used her dead finger. She also could've threatened to shoot her to give her a numerical code.
@rightthewrong6050 The suspect used Cari's phone for the first week, the she used various methods to include apps to send the text messages after that.
Dr. Grande I’ve really got to say, I really enjoy your perspective on these cases whereas most other videos simply say “pure evil” or “born to kill”. There is obviously more here than those cliches. Thank you!
There is nothing better than a Dr Grande breakdown!💙 What a strange and interesting case!🤔
I am here to watch your video and say to you Merry Christmas and the best to you in 2021!
Yay! Dr. Grande! I missed you😊
I can't help but think Liz would have gotten away with murder had she not sent all those texts and emails.
Edifying to the max Doc. Thanks.
Anyone else had to replay this many times because they couldn't keep up with the names? Good work Doc VERY thorough review.
Interesting and extremely gratifying...thanks!!!
It's the randomness of it all I think that gets to me - you never know how someone else is perceiving what is anodyne to you, and that is scary. Well done once again.
You should do Timothy McVeigh sometime, i always found him interesting
Great analysis, filling in the blanks left by the recent Netflix documentary.
Thankfully I'm a big enough weirdo, my Mom would quickly figure out it was an imposter sending texts. With bipolar my meltdowns and mania are fairly often. She'd get suspicious if a few days went by without me calling her up to cry about something inconsequential.
I acknowledge your distress. It's an awful condition. It would seem you've retained your sense of humor or irony.
@@jguenther3049 a made up condition invented for self absorbed ppl who want sympathy.
Yeah ok. You haveBPD like EVERY other female in your demographic 🤣🤣🤣🤣
It's a very curious thing that everyone who SAYS (🙄major eye roll) that they have that condition ALL seem to look alike. Hhhhmmm 🤔🤔. What a strange phenomenon.
All WW. Always.
Many years back, I was in an abusive relationship, and my ex used to get on my phone and make posts on social media, pretending to be me, and send threatening texts to any male friend, blocking anyone he seemed a threat. Then, he would text everyone I knew, pretending to be me: My mom, my son, sister, my best friend. They ALL could tell immediately that it wasn't me, especially my mom, who asked him questions only I would know the answer too!
There are a lot of crazy, messed up people in this world. SMH
Very good job ..good background info
I just watched this on hulu today!! What a roller coaster ride
I agree jealousy and envy are a very dangerous combination. Very good discussion
I'm reading the tangled web book about this case. Why did they not do handwriting analysis on the messages she left? Seems simple enough.What really baffles me is Liz had a boyfriend he never noticed anything? And...even tho he didnt know Cari well he knew Liz well enough to see this crazy behavior was like the crazy things Liz had said and done prior to Cari. I'm glad she finally got caught. When she shot herself she didnt have evidence on her body? Powder burns or whatever.
Happy dance!! I am not familiar with this case......Friday night is my "mommy night in with no other duties" so wine and Dr. Grande's video it is!!! :)
Hey ! I really love the content and i was wondering if you could make a psychological analysis on the grinch:))
You know, I seriously wonder why there isn't some sort of background check on dating sites; given the average age of app maker (late 20s-early 30s), that definitely should be a concern. I've read of several cases of stalkers using apps for their new playground. John Meehan scared the heck out of me.
The stalkers haven't changed, just the way the find and trick their victims.
I'm sorry but I don't understand the relevance of this on this video. Wasn't a good chunk of Dr. Grande's analysis about the fact that she seemed "completely unremarkable, didn't stand out in a negative way"? What difference would a background have made?
extensive background checks are costly. people wouldn't agree to them. go ahead, make a dating site that demands real life many months-long taking background check, and see how many registers.
I guess in theory you could make a minimal background check automatic if the government database on prison records opened up to dating sites. though I imagine only china would allow such public privacy disregards.
that would be too much work. and dating sites are mostly full of odd individuals so it would be pointless
Borderline Personality Disorder (fear of abandonment is supreme in this case) and other comorbid cluster B traits such as sadism, narcissistic rage, and lack of empathy. The fact her father reportedly abused her mother resulting in her being placed as a young child into foster care would support the BPD claim.
Very interesting! Tx!
As usual Doc, nicely done. Darkness played out like going to the grocery store. Sinister I tell you. Love ya 🐈🐾🎄🎄
A warning to all those polyamorous jealousy is a super dark force.
hi dr. grande! i love your videos! im wondering, in university what did you study to be a mental health professional? im interested in pursuing a career in mental health after high school and i’d love to get your input! :)
This story can be watched on Hulu's 20/20 A Tangled Web. Thank you Dr. Grande for covering this case.
20/20 is NOT Hulus show.
Fascinating case! Youve done it again. I would love to see you do a video on Ashley Smith the woman who committed suicide in prison while the guards watched. Happy Holidays Dr. G
That case was sad that child was failed in many ways
@@alyciamarie4163 Agreed. Ashley didnt neeed to die.
I was lost during everything after: "I'll leave the link to Patreon down below."
@@ginashemeth7708 For real. I think it would've helped if he'd have displayed each individual's photo while discussing their respective part.
Look up the names in the case and watch a true crime youtuber cover the case in detail. I know some have, because I've heard of it! Try Eleanor neele, Joshua miles, That chapter, Stephanie harlowe, Georgia Marie, Rachel Shannon, Kendal Rae. I forget who all has covered it but it's beyond insane and worth getting more details.
@@yogadork_namaste
TANGLED WEB !!!
I heard it tree times and I'm still confused...
what a nightmare
Krupa said Golyar was "pretty?" I disagree. Farver was an attractive woman, but Golyar was a bridge troll.
lol
🤣🤣 That's cold.
If any case needed a story board it is this one.