2023 C43 First Drive with Mr AMG! Less or More AMG than Before??
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- Опубліковано 28 чер 2022
- The Daily AMG that’s easy to Love! Welcome back to RBR and the new Generation of #AMG C Classes are now here! The top dog C63 will headline it, and we’ll talk about that later, but first we get to hear, drive and experience the new #C43 4Matic by #MercedesAMG out here in France!
For some background, the w202 was the first ever C Class model range, and the first AMG to be built at factory rather than reappropriated was the C43 AMG. Not like today’s entry levels of the same name, this was a 4.3 V8. The V8 tradition started here continued in the 55 that followed and then the 63s we all know - but the next 43 came a few gens later, in the 205. It had a V6 3.0 big turbo engine that was made by Mercedes Benz and a conventional non-AMG auto box. That was also found in numerous other non-AMGs. That engine did 362 BHP, 0-60 in around 4.7 seconds.
The Facelift gave 390bhp and more AMG DNA in terms of styling - AMG starting to take the 43s more seriously. But not that seriously. MB engine, mild adjustments to suspension, standard torque converter 9 speed!
With the 206, AMG changed everything, which means a much improved car over the standard C. Where most think the engine is a downgrade, the truth is it’s MORE AMG than ever. Yes the old one was a bigger V6, but it can be be found on tonnes of non-AMGs.
This C43 instead shares it’s engine with the A45S - the car that beat the compact car Nurburgring record with the world’s most powerful 4 cylinder engine! The C43 uses the M139L aka a Longitudinal mounted version of that A45 engine. This is also the first time we have had a “one man one engine” built unit in a C43, and this makes the car a full-fat AMG. Unlike the last 43, it only shares this engine with the SL43 and future C63.
This is the world's first engine to have an E-Turbo, or an electric exhaust gas turbocharger.
It’s tech straight out of the Mercedes-AMG ONE - there is a 4cm electric motor inside the turbocharger shaft between the turbine and compressor wheel which spools the turbos before the Exhaust gas ever has a chance too, making the engine way more responsive throughout all rev ranges! It also gets an additional 14HP from the RSG - belt starter generator.
It’s not hugely more powerful at 408BHP, less torque at 500NM and a quoted 0-60 of 4.6/7 - but we test it to be much faster!
Everything else is Furthermore, it gets the AMG RIDE CONTROL suspension with Adaptive Damping - managing damping at each wheel independently. It also has lightweight coil springs and stabiliser bars, a large Strut across the front suspension, and an aluminium sheer panel on the front - and the best bit, AMG variable ratio steering paired to rear axle steering of up to 2.5 degrees!!
Then we have the AMG 4Matic all wheel drive which is identical to the previous car. It has a a 31/69 rear biased split. It also gets the gearbox from the E63, the AMG SPEEDSHIFT MCT 9G with wet multi-disc clutch. Standard AMG Braking system, Carrie’s over as does the AMG Performance Exhaust system. With this you get more in the cabin with “AMG Real Performance Sound”, with actual engine sound from the exhaust system fed into the interior.
As for the NEXT 2023 C63 - I’m could have 670BHP from a P3 Hybrid system. I will explain how system works by adding an electric motor and performance batteries to the C43 set up, part developed by High Performance Powertrains (HPP) Formula 1.
But today is all about the C43: with the V6 gone, will it be entirely enough to be an AMG? Will the car also be dynamic enough given the weight of the W206? Let’s find out!
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Sorry about last night! We had a UA-cam Error not even Shmee has encountered! And today this went live 6 hours earlier than it was planned too. 😂 Enjoy guys, this video has a will of its own.
Salam brother, keep up the good work!
No need to apologize, you're doing a great job. Cheers.
Hello Raz, when you say daily ? What do you mean exactly. Could I do 40 miles a day like I do in my C250d estate ???
You are very welcome to review my car on your channel. All considering the latest fuel prices.
No disrespect to you but you were slating the 2.0 4 cylinders earlier
Salam the new c43 will give the other manufacturers a run for their money. The infotainment system from the s class goes will with the new c class.
LEL shmee paid Indian dell tech support nerds to crash youtube servers
That "Emotion Start" was as emotional as starting my mom's 1999 Ford Fiesta 😂
I have a 30 year old Corolla with a failing exhaust and it sounds more aggressive than this car.
HAHAHAHAHHA THIS IS GREAT!
Then your mummy’s Fiesta exhaust back box must be blowing little Mr Bimmer
@@alanwayte432 Compared to this sad "C63" it does...
W205 C43 Owner here! The new C43 looks stunning and the interior just makes me so jealous. However, I did noticed the dramatic difference between the exhaust note on the outside and the inside. Still prefer my v6 though lol.
Same. Mine is a coupe though. Let’s see what the w206 coupe will look like.
@@hossamgebeily Correct me if im wrong but I dont think they're making a coupe
@@hossamgebeily there is no coupe the coupe is called the cle
The upshift sounds so good in the old one
@@winviris oh! I didn’t know that.
Love your reviews! But it is a big fat NO on the 4pot. I had a GLA45 AMG with essentially the same motor and found it to be to unrefined and buzzy. They should have kept the v6 (and the v8 for the c63). I’ll take the buttery smooth and soulful sound of bmw Inline 6’s (b58 and the M3’s S58)over these disappointments every time.
Unfortunately regulations don't allow them to keep the V8. B58 is definitely a way better engine, and actually more efficient than this I4.
Facts I don't like how this engine sound
I was working towards a C43 cause I loved last gen. This one is nice but I liked the V6 and exhaust and body style and as a coupe. Passing on this and just getting a M340 or M440i. 🤷🏻♂️
Whoever is designing these new Mercedes’ need to be fired immediately. From the basic, generic body style, to the non existent emotion and performance.
There is essentially no reason anyone should strive to choose a Mercedes over even a Kia
@@The_Stanman
That’s not stopping anyone else. Why are they the only ones not allowed to put v8s in?
I call BS
“We’ve got some pops and bangs happening” plays audio of a vacuum cleaner sucking up Lego.
Lmao
I had a C43 from 2017. The sound of that car was champions league compared to this.
V6 is always gonna sound superior to a 4 pot 💯
Still have mine and I absolutely love the sound when doing light pulls. Never play music just so I can hear the car haha
Actually looking at getting it but the used car market doesn't want to drop😭😓
@@bradleylefika9209 me too my friend me too
Completely agree. I also have a 2017 C43. That V6 sounds so much better
"The 340i obviously sounds a lot better..." What is the world coming to! 🙃
340i will be the best bang for bucks on the european market. S4 is too expensive and c43 has only their interior which you can get on a c180.
@@buraksarikaya9798 S4 is a diesel now…
@@jarasw8226 big ouf
I mean it's personal preference but an i6 does sound better than an i4, maybe alone because it's kinda rare in comparison.
I bought a used ‘18 S4 a couple years ago and it’s fantastic for the price when not being purchased as new. (Not the diesel, we don’t get that in US)
I'm glad you managed to finally put the video up. Great content as always 🙏🏾🙏🏾♥️
Thanks buddy!
Excellent review, Raz! I enjoy your enthusiasm and knowledge about these special cars. I've always been partial to the estates, but here in the US we are stuck with a market that unfortunately prefers SUV's. Can't wait for your review and driving impressions on the new C63!
I am the owner of a 2018 C43 I bought with heavy influence from your video.I have 65,000 miles on it. I have not have any problems, the performance and the quality have been fantastic. I was going to have it tuned, but I spend very little time at full throttle.I decided I did not need a tune. I took it on a1400 mile road that I spent at 80 mph or above and obtained almost 32 mpg! I love the car and this might be my next C43. I love the V6 and the torque it provides with the 9 speed. You said not to buy without the sport exhaust. I love my sport exhaust! Thanks for the good advice! I will need to drive a 4 cylinder before I leap!
I'm still suprised how this channel is not at at 1million subs yet.
was thinking exactly the same.
Same. RBR is easily in the Top 3 of car review channels on on YT.
This was the best video illustration of the car’s features. Super job.
Great review and awesome editing. For that I will sub. Keep it up 👍
I would buy that, well done AMG. Thank you for showing us 👍👍👍👍 love this show
I for one cannot wait until it's a single cylinder.. Maybe even a 2 stroke.
Lol
Engines do be evolving backwards
The editing on these vids is so so good.
Thanks for the review! Originally looking to buy the ‘24 C63 sedan in the US. I’m convinced now the C43 is the way to go!!
Excellent review! Love this car!
Apart from the body shapes, I'm still struggling to understand what the difference is between A45s, C43, C63, if they're all the same engine? The C's will be the same size and shape, but different wing bits etc? But the same engine? 63 might be louder and faster, but with a tune and an exhaust, aren't we then talking about the same car?
Yeah I think this is the general problem Merc is facing these days with differentiating their product lines overall. AMG is getting too watered down and design language is dare I say "too consistent" amongst models and trims, etc where everything looks monotone and mundane?
@@mugensekai That's so true. The only exception to that it perhaps the 2 door GT models with the more throaty exhausts and great driving dynamics. The rest of the AMG models are becoming too similar for sure.
It's kinda becoming like Subaru the c43 is like a wrx and a c63 is like a sti all the same engine so I'm pretty sure the c43 will be as capable in tuning at the c63 and they can both reach the same power level. Mercedes really watered these cars down you used to have a c63 for the v8 now its all same engine different tunes :/ I got a 2020 w205 C43 and ima keep it cause the v6 twin turbo sounds way better than this new c43
@@vladt6038 I was looking at it too but man I can't get over COMAND 😭 wish it got the MBUX upgrade. I'm looking at the E53 now instead before they phase it out 😭
C63 will be hybrid or plug-in hybrid, the ICE will have more power and the e motor will be very strong, similar to AMG 4 door SE Performance. It will be heavier though, but all that extra power will make it even faster than the V8 C63S.
Great review! But as with all of the newer german cars, we are getting robbed of all the nice things. The plastics are getting cheaper, screens are replacing physical controls, engines are getting smaller and less interesting, fake sound gets pumped in. Really a shame. I love the looks of the car, but this (lack of) sound, for a car that should spark the emotion, is pitiful. A45 sounds better, and that is all you need to know about it. I am sure f1 tech is making it a nice drive, but with a sound like that a more soul-less one indeed.
nothing a little aftermarket exhaust can't fix tho.
It's sad that with modern sporty cars an aftermarket exhaust is becoming mandatory if you want to enjoy the sounds of it.
@@bagofsunshine3916 still though. You can only make a 4 cylinder sound so good.
There’s no fake sound (AMG wouldn’t be stupid like BMW) rather a mic linked. You can’t deny this interior is better than the previous C43 (besides the steering wheel, best AMG ever made). Buy ya this car w/ the improved handling w/ a V6 or V8 would be an unbeatable daily.
@@kylerodgers3608 I can’t imagine paying all of this money for a shitty inline 4 lol. It sounds terrible, he even said it’s quieter than an A35. This is embarrassing for AMG
@@collegequestions7100 did you read what I said lmao
ive never been more unexcited for a lineup of cars...
Great content!
Seems like a mixed bag then, incredible drive round corners, lovely interior but the sound is so dull. That monotone 4 pot sound would do my head in after a while. Hopefully the next C63 will be brutally fast, something to take your attention away from the sound.
That 4 cylinder sound is a little too droney for my liking.
Hopefully Opus and Renntech can provide a little more sound, like they did on the GT BS, which sounds dreadful from the factory.
You can only go brutally fast for so long and in so many places. There will be no getting away from that sound as it's always there, unlike the speed.
If speed is what you’re after then we all might as well buy a Tesla lol we all buy the C63 for that V8 and the noise that comes with it 🙃
@@michaelkonelio7452 Teslas are ladyboy cars tho lol, just get a M3 G80
This is Michael. I'm sure everyone appreciates the excellent videos you do and all of the extra work you put into them with multiple camera angles, special effects, Etc. Keep up the good work. As for the car I want to wait on the GLC 400 e plus, which we can't get in the US yet for some stupid reason . but in the meantime this looks attractive. As for the exhaust notes I would rather keep the Sport Plus mode but do WITHOUT the ridiculous pops and clicks. I know that's not popular from your other commenters, but most people don't like that . It is cheesy low end sound, more like a Dodge Hellcat than a Lambo or Ferrari. We're getting rid of our Tesla because the interior is archaic and Mercedes is leagues ahead with both the technology and the presentation of it. This car looks like a pleasure to drive.
All of these car manufacture need to wake up. Plug in hybrids are the best way to go. You get instant torque with an additional powerful engine, no range anxiety, no infrastructure electric car charging station problems, fewer internal combustion engine problems because the electric engine is all you need for some usages. The GLC 400e Plus has the right idea and it needs to trickle into the sport coupes. I promise you it's the way of the future.
Awesome review 🖤❤️🔥🖤
I am so glad im keeping my c63s coupe facelift with 12000kms on it. feels good man!
I rather have an A45S compared to this. Its faster, lighter, slightly more powerful and sounds better. More affordable too.
yes but for exemple here, in italy, c43 is more affordable compared to a45s because of the taxes, in fact i've an A35 and some weeks ago i order a C43
Also 4 cyl engine isnt fit c amg, its good for a class
@@TheLukeauditore Why are the taxes on the a45 higher than that of the c43?
@@felipeped760 The a and c class cars look almost the same nowadays anyway, you wouldn't be able to tell a difference.
Heck s63 4 cylinder and noone would know
@@Daniel-dj7fh Lol, you know that 4 pot sounds completely different than v8 engine?
thanks for the appetizer video before you break my heart when you review the W206 C63S 😀😀😀 even though my W204 C63 is a dinosaur now, it makes me happy every time I step on it!
The birds were louder than the emotion start up. But I love it- it’s the future- can’t wait for it to be released in Oz. I hope its available in black magno 👌🏼
I probably scooped up one of the last 2021 c63s's ever sold by a Mercedes dealership at the beginning of this year, and it is hands down by far the best car I've ever driven. I wasn't sure if they would even bring back the c63 after the 2022 lineup dropped, but given the fact that the 2023 has dropped down to a v4 makes just me feel that much more excited to have gotten my hands on the last V8 c63. Last weekend I drove from the far northwest corner of FL all the way to Miami in race mode probably averaged 100 the entire way down. Even if you're going 90 and you need to pass someone the acceleration is insane. The roar when you hit it is freaking addicting, I literally passed hundreds if not thousands of people on the way down and every single time its a rush. On straightaways when you have an open lane in front of you it will go 100 to 140 in like two seconds; and even then the car isn't shaking or unsteady even a tiny bit. It felt rock solid steady taking curves at 110. I just feel like the v4 version won't have the high end acceleration that the V8 has, which is really the best part when you're cruising down the interstate at high speeds. Or idk, maybe that's the second best part after the way it sounds. Either way I'm beyond happy to have this car and I think it could turn into an all time classic if it does end up being the last V8.
L4 not V4
@@markchristensen2962 You're right, thanks for correcting my mistake
Nice video Raz
I love it! It will have more horsepower, more torque, better steering, better gas mileage and you can drive further on a tank of gas. I also love the interior. Go see it and drive it and then you can decide if you would buy it.
Great job! Really like this car
I don’t care i’ll put a V8 in it my self
😂You're so stubborn
Can't stand hybrid four cylinders. Heck, hybrids in general
@@chillas5214 he‘s the type of guy to buy a Taycan and put a flat six in it😂😂
@@chillas5214 There are people who actually want a 4 cyl?
Can you do it for me? 😂😂 I'm serious.
With respect Raz, you should watch your review of the original C43, ending with “ I might even choose this over a C63 if I had to have only 1. 😉
Wasn’t he on Carwow before?
This just justified the S4/S5 for me, don’t care how much screens or tech this has i can’t deal with that engine
Nice to see F1 tech trickle down to customer AMGs
Loved the video, happy you sorted out technical problems.
Thanks very much for addressing this vs BMW 340/440i debate I asked about earlier in c43 'teaser' - was thinking which to get for daily, but I dont like 440i looks (m3/m4 comp looks bonkers, but its way too stiff - there is no way to drive it daily).
Im sold on the car, if you say its so agile and it comes from 992 GTS owner - you got my trust. Cheers.
It handles very well, you'll appreciate the steering and rigidity!
63 or nothing for me when it comes to AMGs
what?
M340i looks gorgeous however
Nah BMW all the way .
I wouldn’t get this one but I’d get a Hybrid GLC 43. An agile, sportish, crossover for daily driving does sound appealing. I’m in Mexico, so we don’t get the cool wagons, and the roads are too bad for daily driving a sedan. That’s why I prefer a crossover, in this country it does make sense. I can just keep my W205 C63S coupe for the weekends and track days (yes I do track it although it’s a heavy beast, so I’m considering getting an RS3 for that purpose)
As a GLC 63 AMG V8, I find it hard to believe that I would go to a 63 with a 4 cylinder engine. Even if they add another electric turbo or anything, the 63 should have stayed with V8. Emissions? Wouldn’t a hybrid with 2 electric engines and a naturally aspirated V8 last longer as well as with less emissions? The fact that cars have to be ‘repaired’ more and parts have to be replaced, isn’t that in itself bad for emissions? Just my opinion.
A 63 should always keep its V8 engine which is the soul, I think; otherwise, why not go to Telsa, lol. Looking forward to the brand new s63e, which is a V8 + e-motor.
I don’t think Mercedes understands the buyer for this segment anymore. We don’t mind filling up on premium gas and getting 20 MPG when it comes with a V8 and performance.
I think these models will prove to be extremely unreliable as they age just too much tech going on way too much involvement for any quick fixes. This thing weighs over 4000 lbs too cause of the hybrid system.
I liked this video before I even watched it……can’t wait!!!
Mercedes should’ve just handbuilt a V6 or I6 for the C43. I don’t know why they downsized it since it’s not a v8 like the new c63.
the new c63 ain't gonna be a v8 either my man, that's the joke.
I wouldn't struggle choosing between this and the BMW m340i Xdrive,am sure they will consume the same litres of fuel per 100km. The downsizing is only to reduce the emission not consumption. And as powerful as it is it won't out perform the rivals,let's just wait and see.
Easily the m340i over this. Imagine how many electrical problems these new F1 tech engines will have 😂
Wrong. Gas mileage will be better. Don't forget this has electric range. Even modified 4cyl have better mpg than a v6 of the same HP...
@@carsandbikez maybe?
@@michaelmaplesden1630 they don't have any electrical problems in fact Mercedes f1 engines are arguably the most bullet proof
You have no clue what you're talking about
@@eventusvantos1905 you probably drive an A180. Clearly you’ve never had a Mercedes before 🤫
What do you think about the wheel size? There are options for 20inch vs 19 inches. Which one would you choose? Is it worth to spend more money for 20 inch wheels?
Merc will reinstate the v6 when they realise that a 4 banger in a c43, however good that engine might be, is not what the customer wants in a luxury saloon car.
I would sure hope so!
@@titaniumspecial4207 I understand that, but when it comes to ICE engines in an AMG, surely its better that they go out with a bang rather than a whimper?
Back in the days we used to say BMW’s sounded awful , now we have to accept and appreciate how good their engine’s sound compared to a AMG
Karma ….
BMWs never Sounded awful, they engines just didnt produce the eargasm amgs could.
Great content. The tech is nice. Sounds like a WRX. W205 C63S for me still, I smile every time I start it up. Can’t wait to see this CLE you speak of, which most likely the Coupe version like M4 is the coupe of the M3. Mercedes needs an answer to the M4.
interior aside I think I will keep my current 2021 C43 estate
I just can't wait to get a four cylinder AMG car.
Cool special effects in your videos, I'll give you that.
Grate video! What’s going to be the price in the USA on the AMG C43 ?
looks like you're driving the hell out of it, not sure I'd be carrying that much speed in my w205.
Hey man any information rear steering wheel with speed km works like 0-120 or can more higher speed.
Lol so funny with Smoke in the background.
A soft limiter on a 4 cyl? What is going on..
I've always loved the c43. Thats my daily. Good balance between comfort,power and practicality. The sound is really what made me fall in love with the c43, you dont have to go fast to enjoy yourself. Just downshifts and crackles make me happy. Altough this new model is a lot quicker than the old v6... i mean.. it's a daily and there is always going to be a faster car out there. I'd rather enjoy the noises from the old v6 engine and exhaust with less power, than a boring engine with fakes noises that is more powerful.
rip c43
The new c43 use the F1 engine so it’s a win for me
There's a lot to like. Many of my concerns were allayed. I currently have an 18 E-coupe and would be more interested to see what they do with the CLE. I just hope they don't make the interior like the C, S, and SL. I want more interesting architecture and buttons.
Great videos as ever , have a question I am in canada bought a new c43 AMG today with all the options but for the life of me I cannot figure out how to launch it , even tried looking at forums but no success , what am I missing ?
Idea for a vid get the v8 and the the 4 pot and lets see if it is actually more fuel efficient on ICE only
The lady in C43 convertible that enjoyed blowing my doors off on the highway entrance seemed satisfied. Still, she seemed surprised that my E250 CDI wagon could even try. I made sure that she was putting her foot down all the way. It was good for my car. I drive too mellow and the particle filter gets buggered up. Mashing it in sport once or twice a week really does help.
This car is really fun to drive. Some people are complaining about the engine and sound. The issue is the increasing government regulations; companies will have to start making smaller engines that comply with laws and, at the same time, perform like bigger engines to try and make customers happy. This will be the future trend until electric cars become the norm. So, let's enjoy what we have while it lasts!
I'm five seconds in and I've already liked the video just for the mortal kombat reference. Normally, I wouldn't like because of the 4cyl downgrade, but you sir, have won me over.
I'm here for you guys. My fellow nerds and interesting people.
This car would be perfect w/ a larger cyl engine, but atleast I’m really excited to see what the CLE turns out to be.
Germany will start the next world war before the government goes back against the downsizing reasonings.
Think I'll go down to my garage and give my RENNtech W211 E55 a big hug.
The induction noise inside the car is fucking phenomenal sounding!!! I cant wait to see what aftermarket can do with the exhaust!
I wish the aftermarket could add two cylinders😉
+1 .. The W124 inline 6 cylinder (M104-?) and all its variants has a memorable exhaust note.. .. Gotta luv the time-honored MB inline-six's... The neu MB inline 4 cylinder exhaust note .... any hope?
Another great vid. thanks so much. How does this compare to the CLA 45 s 4matic+
CLA is more dynamic, it's faster, but the interior and overall experience can't match the 206.
@@RemoveBeforeRacefor my first AMG your recomendation?
@Tonny Almeida 🤣 yea thats the dream but a bit much for me and as a daily driver with todays fule prices. I think ill stick to the cla 45s
@@griddlemarks6116 trust me, don't base your buying decision based on reviews or opinions alone.
They help to narrow your options down to 2-3, but if you want to decide between 2 particular models, you HAVE to testdrive both.
(CL)A45 & C43 feel completely different on the road, it's really personal taste if you prefer this more fresh agile behaviour or the sheer & stable power of a bigger car.
Not a fan of pops and bangs, just reminds me of a time when exhausts were poorly made and ended up with holes in them. Fantastic car ✊
Yeah me too. I think driving around with snap, crackle and pop coming out of the exhaust would be tiresome real quick.
Cool review as always. Bro that’s not even an entry level AMG. The emotional sound is what makes it an AMG and these new 4 pots are not for AMG. A35 and A45 yes but they are different busy hatchbacks. Think I’ll enjoy my 8Y RS3 🙌
wait, how come it has the AMG performance seats but when I went to the configurator in Germany, its not available as an option???..
I'm not a Mercedes fan but the explanation and visuals are second to none on this overview.
What is happening with the 2024 E63s. Will it be similar engine/motor configuration. Can’t get a straight answer. Some are saying it will keep v8 buturbo with rear electric motor as the s class Amg. Most saying 4 pot configuration?
Vtec kicked in yo!!!!
Mixed bag for me. Looks awesome, still having trouble w/ grasping that AMG uses anything but a V8 or 12. I mean I was just getting used to the 6cyl.
It's that Subaru boxer / 90s Honda Vtec-ish sound that's throwing me off. Real pipes might help.
I found the Performance seats in the predecessor C63s a little bit to hart for longer journeys. I wonder if this is also the case for the newer versions?
Oh ye of little faith...lol Perfect daily, Little exhaust and intake upgrade and we are kickin son. I would also have the all the aero package the same color of the car. It would enhance the body of the car . Wicked vid.
worth the wait kid
These interiors with 5 different screens remind me of my work. Last thing I want is to get into performance car and feel like I am back in a cubicle.
Nice car, but this Sound makes me want to cry
Very nice car, the sound is actually more than okay, way more fruity than I personally expected. The C63 should pop and rasp for days, looking forward to that one. It was a relief to hear C43 is great to drive, while it might cause the noise lovers to piss off, this and the new C63 might draw in lovers of handling. The C63 is a big unknown of course, will be one of the most anticipated group of reviews ever when they finally come out.
It sounds like crap
It literally sounds awful
@ss it will sound worse but handle better
The weight comes from the batteries which will provide far greater torque for better acceleration and lower centee of gravity for better handling
@ss no its not. Just because Porsche implementation is like that doesn't make it so for others
Tesla model s is faster around m5 cs around some tracks so you're wrong
Also It's not about hp but how it's applied not to mention torque which electric power trains offer far more of
@ss Tesla isn't even optimized or designed for track performance and yet it still beats the track oriented m5cs which proves how electric power trains torque and lower centre of gravity have a big advantage that can more than make up for their weight contrary to your original claim
The bmw has way more hp its well known fact bmw m5 cs is making closer to 800 hp
Wrong like I said Tesla weighs far far more than m5 cs and wasn't designed for track performance yet it still beats the m5 cs which was made for track usage
It didn't lose to a Cadillac it beat it!
Yes it does mean it handles better since better handling cars will have better lap times 9 times out of 10
Wrong lots of people track Tesla despite them not being designed for it precisely because electric power trains have an advantage that is more than able to make up for the weight
They can leave light weight sports car for dust in acceleration while still cornering well
Many cars are equipped with rear steering wheel. All about advantages, Any disadvantage?
This new electric turbo engine is really interesting but consider that this car with a 2L 4 cylinder engine weighs almost 1700 kgs. Is this because of that very large turbo, extra weight to strengthen the engine block because of very high boost pressures and the lithium ion battery back that is a part of this electric turbo?
A 3L twin turbo V6 would weigh virtually the same, giving the same if not more power and torque and being far less stressed of an engine. It wouldn't have significantly more turbo lag and it wouldn't have the battery pack of the electric turbo that eventually loses capacity like a smartphone. Also, this new electric turbocharger will surely experience much shorter life due to the turbo always spinning at high rpm from the integrated electric motor.
I just think the standard twin turbo V6 is overall a much better option. This F1 inspired tech is great there where an engine only lasts one race. When Maserati were looking to develop their MC20, they looked into this electric turbo and concluded that it was not reliable and overly complex with added weight. Their F1 tech adoption I think is far superior-the pre chamber system.
Whilst I admire the performance and dynamics of this new AMG C43, it's definately not a car you would want to buy in 5 yrs out of warranty.
Sound? What sound?
It‘s oke for a 4 cyl.. not b58 like tho
@@Moscarblog indeed. Still positively surprised by the 0-62mph time, thought it will be above 4.5
Wife has a loaded 2020 cabriolet. I love it. Can't drive the new one with a 4 banger, especially when the engine noise is supplemented through the speakers. Just Stoopid. Her 6 banger in sport mode with top down sounds too cool!
there's fake noise in the 2020 as well - just saying
I need one . I'm totally in love with Mercedes
Will the the c63 be using the same housing size as the 43
Is it true that the this new model won't come with the C63amg Coupe?
I bought my W205 C63S for one reason over the competition - sound. That’s it. And that’s the same with many C63 owners who won’t even consider the new 4 cylinder options. Until there’s zero V8 cars on the market, no reason to choose anything else if sound and character is what you like over pure speed.
The MSRP on my 2017 C43 (W205) with metallic paint, AMG Driver Pkg, Night Pkg, Premium Pkg and 19" optional wheels was CAD 69k. If I spec this new C43 with the same spec, it pushes CAD 90k...that's nuts
Does this mean w205 prices will drop cuz I’ve been eyeing a c43 for a while now or might as well get the c63w205
I have one. I really like it.
Curious....they say it doesn't come with "launch control" for 2023, but you clearly launched it in this video. How did you do that? Is it an extra option?
How is the transmission ? I'm stuck with a 7 speed dct and I hate it .
Would we get the rear wheel steering in the uk models?
Nice the interior, outside is nice, but sorry i wont be changing my c43 3.0 V6 for a 4 pot! That was the reason i bought it. Shame on Amg for not giving what their customers want.
Watched a Canadian site test drive earlier, same car, same road including that switchback.
For a four cylinder... that sounds a lot better than I was expecting. It spins up really well and the exhaust plays the bass and drums nicely enough. I imagine they'll save the really funky tunes for the C63. Message for Mercedes-Benz UK:- Please bring in the rear wheel steer option and ditch the 'scratch-tastic' piano black centre console!!
Sounds fake as
Any ideas if the W205 and W206 43 share the same chassis?
Hi Raz may I make a comment about the music volume of your intro. Everytime after you gave brief info to the video and then transit to the clip which you put in for all episodes, the volume is so loud so the audiences may need to be standby to tune down the volume for that part, and then turn it back up when you continue to speak..
I have the quad pipe V6 .Gorgeous. Looks amazing in silver too. (20 plate). Sorry no contest. V6 will always sound better. That's why I let my Lovely white Golf R go for a C43. (Also sad as Golf was amazingly quick & economical). Have squeezed 40.9mpg from C43 on a 50 mile run !!! No plans to sell V6. Used as occasional toy to enjoy.