Why Palpatine and Vader Killed Grand Moff Tarkin’s SON! (Legends)
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The Non-Canon Expert explains why Emperor Palpatine and Darth Vader conspired to kill the son of the future Imperial Grand Moff Tarkin, Admiral Garoche Tarkin, as a way to benefit from the services of his father going forward!
This is a Legends story for Vader that was seen in the 2011 Legends comic entitled "Star Wars: Darth Vader and the Lost Command". I hope that you enjoy it!
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Are you planning to do video about "Darth Vader and the ghost prison"? It isn't direct "sequel" to this comic but does happen in the same continuity.
Hey i am a fan of your channel and i was wondering if you would like to do a video about the star wars empire cimic issue #16-#18 i love the story and i would love to see a video about it ill link the comics in the post so you can read it yourself
Issue 16
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Issue 17
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I just love seeing it from the empire perspective and i love your vids keep up the good work
Could you do a video on the force sensitive Hutt from the book Scourge? Please?
Why didn't Vader clone padme?
Sounds great!
Moff: hey lord Vader how’s the wife
Vader: say hello to her for me
...and then they were ambushed. And then.....they were ambushed. Finally, they were ambushed. Ambushery all around.
dickrobot Walked right in to that imperial ambush, just like us, and that thief over there
Were they then ambushed?
But what about the ambush?
So that's why tarkin was so black hearted and cold cause of his son being killed basically sidious created another monster like sidious & vader
tarkin has no heart.
It worked. "Darth Vader and the ghost prison" comic shows that over the following years, Emperor's way of running things had resulted such excessive casualties that they had to build giant crematorium on coruscant to burn all the bodies sent back from the fronts all over the galaxy. And this was before Rebellion had taken root. When Tarkin was confronted by this by headmaster of Coruscant's imperial officer academy and told that his command alone got lot of cadets killed, Tarkin basically responded that he doesn't give a bantha's ass.
Ehh he was already like that in the Book Rogue Planet...
Lets face it, calling Tarkin a Psychopath is too nice
In Legends at least. Tarkin was born an evil monster in Disney canon.
6:17 I disagree, I don't think she underestimated the light within him but used the WORST way possible to bring out the light. Thinking of Padme might seem light at first, but to Vader specifically, it brought him the MOST feelings of pain and anguish that he ever could feel. Thinking of her only brings him pain after what happened, what he blamed himself for. She shouldn't have used her to bring the light out of him, it was never going to work. Only one of Padme's children could bring her up and not totally destroy Vader's mentality, but even them bringing her up would likely not be a step for him towards the light, unless brought up in a very specific way.
Never the less, AMAZING video my friend! Thank you for the great Authentic Star Wars content like that of the Legends:)
That’s a lot of ambushes
JManPlays 30-50 ambushes
@@Jay-in6dl They were actually Skavens in human disguise 😂
That may have been a legit suicide attempt by Darth Vader; it could have been that he sensed the love between the two of them, knew he had to kill them, and then tried to drop the place on himself in the process. The Dark Side doesn’t give its own up easily though.
Legends Palpatine is always drawn to look like a melted candle.
Those aren't drawings. They are obviously pictures of melted candles.
The funny thing is, nowhere in this comic is it clear that Tarkin loved his son; only that Palpatine and Vader thought he did. That's why TV Tropes still considers Tarkin a Complete Monster when having a loved one would normally disqualify him.
Considering that he told Vader about his missing son I would think he did care about him since he wanted him back.
@@regularguy2807 It actually explains why he was so cruel toward the rebels in episode 4. All he has left is hatred for the rebel scum that murdered his son.
Honestly, the moments when Vader had visions of Padmé in the awesome Legends comic broken down in this video get to me every single time. What happened to Anakin Skywalker was truly such a sad and terrible thing, and I find it rather cruel that both Palpatine and Vader plotted to kill Tarkin's son. But Sidious is Sidious and Vader wasn't redeemed yet so what do you expect lol! :)
I know what you mean. This is why I am waiting with such anticipation to see what happens in the final issue of the Vader comic next week. I am expecting something equally as tragic as seen in these Legends comics.
@@starwarsreadingclub Same tbh. The Canon comics for Vader have really been on a role imo, and I expect that things equally as tragic happen in the final issue as well.
Are there any other canon comics or is it just the Vader ones? Because that's all I ever see on youtube regarding new comics, I really want to start reading the legends material first though, also still want the rest of the legends books, there's sooo many, I have about half of them which is about 60 or so and only read half of those because I read them in chronological order and I am missing some of those.
what is the name of this comic?
Vader being so heavily damaged in that fight probably prevented tarkin from assuming it was an assassination.
In these comics, it always looks like Palpatine is taking a dump.
He probably is . Incontinence is a thing even the Dark Side can't control. He is old
Look at title: Oh Jesus Christ...
Darth Jar Jar M'Lord
Best name ever
Wow. Poor Tarkin.
Which one?
@@EchthelionII Both of them lol
Man, I don't get how they have that ONE chance to finally kill Vader and end this madness but instead chose to keep him alive anyway, incredibly stupid.
0:16 - Darth Howard the Duck, lol.
Well damn that explains a lot as to why Tarkin in his doctrine and conversations with sidious never even flinched. As Alderran was destroyed or as the empire enacted his doctrine with extreme prejudice. In the end he resolved on his path with Sidious and Vader. He was the perfect man for it and only his son stood in his way from truly embracing the empire.
I remember this comic it is one of my favorite installments in the EU.
I completely agree GG1128, this is a fantastic series! I have recently gotten into the Lost Command and Dark Times recently, and both are just great. Thank you for watching!
Hi What does EU stand for?
@@damonturnbull5903 expanded universe if i remember correctly
As raw and entertaining as this is, it's really over the top imo
Vader gets ambushed ALOT by a person who has no idea he's being hunted because the plot to kill him was concieved DURING a rescue operation to save him which he also didn't know or care about because HE had already betrayed them first which they didn't know about until after they betray him...
And this twisted knot of seemingly petty squabble somehow produces a situation capable of unmasking, restraining and almost killing the all powerful Darth Vader whom can't complete the mission without comitting near suicide to get at a non-force user that's in the same room as him? And all it took for Vader to be pushed this far was for one of his admirals to find a hot chick he wants to get with...
It's well told though...
When I read the title I was wondering if I missed something, since I read the Tarkin novel and theres no word about a son there. Well this is legends ^^
There is always a bit of truth in legends. ;)
This was also the first time of hearing that Tarkin had a son, I also read Tarkin and it was really good one of 3 canon books I liked actually, still need to read Thrawn Alliances, I haven't read much of the Imperial era in legends though because I'm missing a bunch of them, I don't even have the original trilogy books, I only ever found them in one book and I want them separately so I can put them in the right place on my book shelf.
Why is Vader able to walk around without his respirator? He doesn’t look nearly as damaged as in the movies
Also why is Vader THICC AF?
@@Kadeo-ms6qw He's been stress eating since Padme died.
That was a really good example of the well-written drama that those legends tales could create.
Darth Vader past life of being loyal to sidious is like a father and son bond relationship....that was a heart breaking story the both lovers meet their faith....
Let's see how the canon meeting with Padmé will go next week.
It has been on my mind the last two weeks, wondering if it might truly become Vader's "greatest defeat." Can't wait for it. :)
Hope you had a great weekend IO!
Your narration is really good, thanks!!
Tarkin's son was the only thing that kept his humanity intact. But like with Vader, Palpatine took that from him to turn him into a cold blooded killer.
"Finding the star destroyer to be heavily damaged." Well, gee, it's been split in half. That *might* qualify as heavily damaged and not, say, destroyed?
Vader looks thicc in this comic
Wow naughty padawan
@@bashfulray7982 What? He kinda does.
He looks like shit. His mouth vent is ridiculously oversized. The rest of the art looks good, but Vader looks like a teen drawing seriously - no sense of proper scale.
Well, they don't call him "Thicc Dicc Skyguy" for no reason..
Vader looks like batman at this point or even spawn 😅😂
Weird. You’d think with Tarkins advanced age funding a suitable replacement like his son might be a priority for palpatine. He plotted to kill him before even knowing he was a traitor
Excellent my apprentice, you have done more than we originally planned and the dark side of the force has once more proven why it is superior to the light. The light sides will leave you to die while the dark side saves your life and keeps you alive, that keeps happening mainly to Vader bit the dark side is the way to live.
Lost Command is definitely a top notch story that is always worth a read. Especially how it makes Vader a truly tragic figure and more human to the reader.
Indeed, it does, also i cant help but feel sad by the deaths of the Troopers of the 501st, and Commander Voca, the way the died at the end, betrayed, was tragic. Not gonna lie, after that i was cheering on Vader when he killed Shale.
Man, Tarkin was Vader's homie, too. If Tarkin only knew what he did.
My guess is that Tarkin would´ve ordered the Death star to fire on Tatooine or Mustafar if he found out DX
@@sebas8225 Killing all the Tuskens and getting rid of all the sand and the high grounds in the Mos Eisley race track in the process.
Doing so, he would have made Vader happy.
"So there you have iiiiiiiitttt" lol
This was too convenient. It would have been better if Tarkins son was loyal, would have made for a more intriguing story line.
I loved this comic.
2:09 "heavily damaged" may be a slight understatement... idk tho
Well, that certainly pushed Tarkin to be more ruthless.
To quote a playable character from Terminator: Dawn of Fate, "Grief is a fool's game." And anyone like Tarkin or Vader whose lost a loved one loses their moral anchor is likely to play it.
Ya know... as much as I love Vader... there’s a point (at least for me) where someone does so much depraved and messed up shit to where I can’t feel sorry for them. This is like Stalin levels of “deserves to die in the most painful way.” No amount of sad backstory can make up for that.
While i somewhat agree please keep in mind that some of this legends stuff is just silly because it's so focused on being dark, gruesome, vile and everything that it hurts the plot, the characters and the overall immersion, at least for me.
I really dislike stories like the one from the video because i feel like some frustrated kid wrote them that got mistreated in elementary school and never managed to deal with his self-pity appropriately, and i can't take them seriously.
Killing Tarkin´s son is disgusting, I thought they were bros!
@@sebas8225 Vader and tarkin never liked each other.
@@MournfulDust Depends on the comics not every legend material is dark and gruesome but when it comes to vader... Ya that tends to happen did you forget he killed children in the prequels my dude vader is a killing machine that is something they manage to hit the nail with.
vader showed that face of " i dont get paid enough for this shit."
I always thought that tarkin was based on the lord Kitchener archetype (celibate military officer married to the work with no time for love).
tho ofcourse now in the shisney canon he is gay.
really? OH FFS I wish they would just stop. Why does EVERY THING need to be gay! I always thought that he had a fling with admiral daala. It's never said outright, but was insinuated.
@@hosmerhomeboy yup he was having it off with tk427 the storm trooper who's armour Luke wore on the 1st death star!
tbh I don't mind any character being gay I was annoyed that a character that I thought was a celibate army officer archetype and a role model for celibate men was taken away from a group that basically has no role models in modern media (ecpt for the emperor)
I have since found out that he wasn't celibate and had a son. tho ofcourse being celibate don't mean a person has tobe a virgin it just means they no longer bother with the opposite sex.
@@Thiborfirenz Yeah, it's not that the presence of gays annoys me, it's that the current media establishment feels the need to shoehorn it in to absolutely everything. All the old lore, and even much history is being over written with a multicultural/pansexual brush, and it's blatant and obvious. I would totally not mind a new character that was gay, but just writing it in there for existing characters, or simply replacing them with women, is annoying to me. I tried reading the books, and had to throw away chuck wendigs piles of trash. I am done with all this revisionism.
Poor wilhuff tarkin i wonder if he would have joined the rebellion if he knew the truth.
Les Mis crossover?
A kid named Garoche dies. Garoche’s (himself Tarkin’s kid) unborn kid dies.
6:51 why the medic Droid look so confused
Thats more like a "really" look to me like hes thinking how many times do I have to fix this guy?!!😂
this was one of the best vader comics and its clear why it is a top choice of many when talking about memorable legends comics
has anyone made a fanfiction of tarkin finding out vader and the emperor killed his son whether that be seeking revenge or accepting it as his son was a traitor
Who were the black armored clones that traveled with vader throughout the story, not the storm commandos
I feel like Vader just wanted to get revenge on tarkin for giving him orders lol
Why was vader's eyes blue? I almost didnt recognize him
@keller blair that doesn't really explain why his eyes were blue towards the end of the video though
the glowing orange eyes being sith eyes, I thought that was his trait since becoming vader
@keller blair so basically the sight of padme was enough to lift the darkness momentarily and turn his eyes blue, despite the fact that he's still a sith and almost getting blown up
could've done without the roundabout answer bro, your overly poetic answer is what's hard to understand
@@Iuwl Thats why he tries to bring the whole building down on them instead of just force choking them to death. The girls visions only drove him to extreme guilt for killing Padme (apparently in the vision Padme tells Vader she forgives him) basically he was overwhelmed by guilt and tries to bring the whole building down to commit suicide
Why does Palpatine look like Dr Doom in 0:22 ?
Vader looking like Deadpool lol
Wow! The Sith have no shame.🤗
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When you realize people who weren’t Jedi had a chance of killing Vader
I don't understand this happened right after order 66 wouldn't it seem like Vader would have thought for a moment and thought "well the emperor is trying to get me to Stage Tarlins son's death and he could have done the same thing with Padme and told me that I killed her in my anger?" In other words Vader used the force to kill tarkin's son and Stage it to look like the rebels did it in the sad story the next day that the rebels killed Tarkins son and therefore the rebels must be stopped at all costs even if that involves genocide of Millions if not billions of people. Wouldn't have it occurred to Vader at this point that Palpatine could have used Sith Alchemy to kill Pademe through the force claiming that he killed her in his anger by accident? It seems like at that point Vader wouldn't get would have gotten together with Tarkin to get revenge on Palpatine and then both of them to overthrow him?
What morons decide to take Vader alive? The insurgents FINALLY out smart Vader and then they blew it.
What if I told you this wasnt the last time (In Legends) Rebels make this mistake?
Vader should have been hung by what was left of his roasted testicles and slowly roasted alive. What a freakin' jerk.
Lmao why did they give palpatine MODOKs face
So they didn't conspire, Vader just found out he had to kill him...
Technically they did because killing his son was the plan it just so happened his son was a traitor and was gonna have to be killed regardless. Better to tell Tarkin Rebels did it though and leave the fact his son was a traitor out of the report 😂
What Vader wouldn't do to grieve General Tarkin
we sure get a lot of unmasked vader in this one.
how many other comics out there have his face shown?
i am going to find this out!
Very other comic Vader's helmet gets damaged because that was the cool thing to do
moff tarkin_ magnetou is engeener of energetyc systems and he escape_survivor on death star with a patrol_hunter of great speed_fast in the lost moment_time _archaicxn
wait waaaahh…
For really bad ideas.
Yea thats an uunderstatement.
Lady Sorrow......well she was very sorry to have messed with vader i bet.
(Really bad ideas)!!!!!!!!!!!
Someone actually got paid to draw this...
I think u really need to start showing what comic this is .... show the cover all these vids never reference this comic it's from and that sucks thanks
Vader in his tighty blackies
Good story hate the way it's drawn looks like it's out the 70s
Why?
Because Sith only dominate , kill , betray, rule and Control everything
This comic is the reason why i liked legends better than disney canon.
Exactly!
PIE
Am I the only person who tries to skip "video expose," and "if not for me..." in all of his videos?
Just as a sort of minigame in his videos, adds to my personal entertainment.
yes, yes you are
Unpopular opinion: Canon Vader is better and much more powerful than his legends counterpart. Just me tho. Feel free to disagree.
I both agree and disagree
I disagree only because I don't really know much about canon Vader because I haven't read any of the comics, legends or canon.
@@EchthelionII If you read the 2017-2018 Vader comics and watch season 2 of rebels you'll like canon Vader more
@@realahsokatano5046 Haven't read any comics except 1 Rick and Morty comic and 1 graphic novel, also haven't watched Rebels, I might try it though, the animation on it looks really weird to me.
@@EchthelionII Rebels is actually relay good. Season 2 and 4 are my fav. also watch clone wars. ;)
Why palpy and Vader look like a corny couple on Instagram in the thumbnail
Lol
#forrillybadideas
I am the 100th comment
Shame this isn’t canon
I’m glad this is non canon.
Ah yes just like that one time where softcore homosexual porn in canonical point of view book where it felt out of place and saber copters and a wookie being able to manhandle vader is a better canon.
Oh wait is worthless and inconsistent and tainted by the sequel trilogy.
Despite this being one of the best legend comics and aphra with thick plot armour or palpatine or every character acting out of character.
@@psgaming101craup4 If you're referring to the comic where Vader is on that weird rock monster planet I'm pretty sure Chewbaca still loses that fight and Vaders suit was essentially emped and not working during that
First
This would never be in cannon because in cannon tarkin is actually gay......
No really, there's a comic where tarkin comes across a little survalence droid of a gay stormtrooper. Tarkin has an instant crush and aranges a meeting with him that is not recorded for "security reasons" 😏
And this is the reason why legends is the real canon.
_secret service of star wars_is not true _moff tarkin son escape survivor from attentat terorist and go run on base of imperial fleet where him father count and diplom engeener in the energetyc systems of grand power great admirall moff tarkin became spy inspector in build machine of great power with need the force_moff tarkin escape survivor from death star explozion and he go run in the lost moment time with a hunter patrol imperial on great speed fast and arrive on away far away base_lock the this base is secret_they never return at fight_secret service of star wars_archaicxn lord
I love this comic, but I hate the illustration style
It is incredibly annoying how in every video you go “in this video, i will explain...” and go on to just reiterate the title and/or pretty much exactly what you had JUST said. That level of redundancy and amateurish writing is just...elementary school-tier!
Within 10 seconds Intro is over, pretty quick compared to most out there, not only is the intro over But i'm being told the start of the story. Also With including your One and only complaint (Which Reiterating the topic is something nearly everyone dose, some Mutable times which then warrens complaints) you felt merit to mention It brings the total time to 26ish seconds, Still not bad all together But I too share Your pain in not Liking to hear Redundancies and people explaining things just Wording it differently to Make you feel you are learning more of it. This is something I do not see in this situation though what so ever. We are told that This is a younger Tarkin before he is Grand Moff Tarkin Who's High ranking Son Just went missing with his star destroyer and Papa Evil Decides to send Darth Vader and his 501 Legion in to find it . I did not read that in the title? Also Its “in this video expose , i will explain...” You filthy Low class animal.
I will not reply to anymore to this , I will however read it. Please enjoy.
jacob robison I don’t know if it was one of this guys or someone else’s, but there was one video where part way through, he literally made the same 3 statements 3 times in a row, just worded slightly differently.
And sorry, but by middle school English you’re taught pretty adamantly to never start an essay by flat out saying “in this essay i am going to [blank]. You find an actually creative way to introduce the essay to the audience to avoid boring them to absolute sleep right off the bat! And it’s especially pointless in UA-cam video format. The title is right there and we clicked on it. We know what you intend to convey with this video, you do not need to repeatedly tell us, I can only assume out of a hopeless lack of writing skills or simply to help pad out the video’s length and artificially stretch out watch time.