Thanks, Michael. Been loving my time with the Pro. Quick shout out to Techland for a fantastic Dying Light 2 enhancement. Stunner. Hard to know which SDK/PSSR each launch game is using. Some implementations are significantly better than others.
Looking forward to getting into this next week. Got my notification from Larian that my Deluxe Edition is on the way to me and I'm hoping to get my PRO next week. Might have to hold off until 6th December if I can't get a disc drive next week though. Payday can't come soon enough. Still have my PS5 (phat) to fall upon if things don't go my way with a Disc Drive
The fact that they until this day didn't implement the IO api that take advantage of the dedicated hardware of PS5 is crazy. I get that they are a pc focused team and not a very big one with endless resources. And with the massive launch the priorities were other. But the game have been out for a long time and the technical team probably is iddle as the creative leads conceptualize their next title, if they did that this game probably could reach a locked 60FPS offloading the entire streaming system to the decompression and compression dedicated hardware. Like Spider-Man 2 does and allows that insane levels of traveling across the map and instantaneous fast travel anywhere.
I'm interested in the CPU performance of the PS5 Pro versus the PS5, so your video is very informative. Your analysis of CPU-heavy titles is great! （Google Translate）
Great video, i love how you break this all down. My hope is that sony gets it's on PlayStation central engine that prioritize the system as a default while allowing an overlay if necessary for developers core engine features.
Honestly, I'm 100% convinced that the real competition is GeForce Now. It's $1/day and you have your own 4080 and insane CPU. It can stream at 4k/120....
It’s a shame the zen2 apu does not run over 4ghz that would get a lot of games over 60fps. Remember with the one x the jaguar cpu was clocked to 2.3ghz from 1.7ghz and amd added cache…
True. It was 1.6 GHz though, but you're right. One X's 2.3GHz boost was indeed impressive. Although I don't remember AMD adding more cache to Jaguar CPU.
Too many patches are disappointing on Pro. Silent Hill 2 just got an update to fix the Pro patch issues and guess what? It STILL looks bad and worse than it did on the base PS5...
3 bad patch's put of 40+ it's bound to happen, we had poor patch's on the 4 pro and one x last gen so it's a dev issue unfortunately and in that case blooper are to blame
Silent Hill 2 is horribly unoptimized in general. It has bad quad overdraw on distant trees that are obscured by fog. The fog that was introduced in the first game to help performance lol. Developers nowadays know nothing about optimization and games look like shit because of it.
$380 digital edition (black Friday price world wide) vs $700(more then that in most countries for some reason)is not worth it even if every demanding game was locked at 60. Add game's like this to your library and play them on your ps6 in 3 to 4 years if high frame rate is so important
so dont buy, simple not all video that contains ps5 pro need to be (it is not worth), sometime the video is just the deep dive to enthusiast who want to know. they dont tell you to buy, they just made it to see the details of the new patch.
NX I do enjoy your videos and knowledge. But on this the problem isn't the PS5 Or the Pro. It's the shoddy legacy engine that baldurs gate uses. There's nothing special in it graphically or CPU wise. Assassin's creed pushes more CPU and runs fantastic because it's on a better engine that's current and updated. I mean Unreal 5 although new and pushing fx is bloated and far too resource heavy. Baldurs gate needs strippjng back and massively updating. The game is a bug fest as well. Optimization is needed this gen more then Ever.
@@NXGamer Yep and I know you have to be selective with your words. Don't get me wrong. I love games being on different engines. But when I look at whats going on in a scene and the framerate is tanking even some more modern cpu,gpu's. You know it's the engine. But I enjoy watching your video's and you do explain more then many other sites. keep em coming:)
@@jonas34ptfernandes38 Alan Wake 2? I don't know man. Watch the DF video. The 4070 was 43% faster than the PS5 Pro and also had much better image quality. Even FSR was better than PSSR in this game. And even the 3070 was faster than the Pro in their testing. The RX 6800 is only 10% slower than the 4070 on average in most games...
Did you watch the video? He literally says that the limiting factor here is the CPU not the GPU. In this particular game, the game is leaning on the CPU for functions the consoles has dedicated hardware for....because this game was designed for PC the game does not use the dedicated hardware and instead uses the CPU as it would on PC which causes the console version to be heavier on console CPU than other games which are built with the console hardware in mind. This is not an excuse as much as it is an explanation of why the game doesn't perform as well.
@JackJohnson-br4qr did i say 4070 ? I didnt so dont go there, you are forgeting RT performance, Nvidia cards run laps around AMD in terms of that that is why on Alan Wake 2 a 4070 does better by a good margin than the pro
@@jonas34ptfernandes38 The RX 6800 is only 10% slower than the 4070 on average in most games... Here is your answer. And RT? Don't forget the Pro isn't a 4090. PlayStation really can't use path tracing and heavy RT. At medium RT, the 6800 is about 20% slower. So still faster than the Pro.
I bought this game, went into character creation clicked on male then the madness started,I uninstalled it and got my money back woke 🗑️ trash, Best move I ever made😁
So far is a big disappointment. They literally charge double for the pro for 5 extra fps and most of the time worst image quality ahaha well done sony team. Hope they gonna fire finally this idiot ceo.
Don't upgrade your CPU and performance and loading is not much improved, who'd a thunk it..?! not Sony it seems..and this is why I don't touch the PS5 Pro
Missed the part where he said Larian isn’t using the hardware based decompression block? They could be getting more out of it but Larian aren’t doing everything they could be.
Thanks, Michael. Been loving my time with the Pro. Quick shout out to Techland for a fantastic Dying Light 2 enhancement. Stunner. Hard to know which SDK/PSSR each launch game is using. Some implementations are significantly better than others.
I hope you do Callisto Protocol next.
Look forward to your PSVR 2 findings. Especially for GT 7 now that it has received the Pro patch.
All of the ghosting is gone. Looks incredible.
“Naked pixels, just like the day they were born” 😆
I knew Naked Snake would get that one 🙂
I just love how much quieter the image is on pssr this game was always flickering. I really can't stand the flickering
Me too, I really dislike the noise and artifacts of FSR so much that to me it is night and day.
I LOVE YOUR ANALYSISES, I LEARN TO MUCH FROM THEM !
Best game tech analyst on the internet. Haven't seen anyone going that deep and being that thorough.
Digital foundry in shambles at this detail
Let’s not get ahead of ourselves. DF is still king
DF exists lol
@@890Jacob DF is bottom tier analysis
@@890Jacob DF are journalists aka amateurs, unlike NX who's a professionnal.
Great analysis! Does the Quality mode on PS5Pro pose any differences?
Looking forward to getting into this next week. Got my notification from Larian that my Deluxe Edition is on the way to me and I'm hoping to get my PRO next week. Might have to hold off until 6th December if I can't get a disc drive next week though. Payday can't come soon enough.
Still have my PS5 (phat) to fall upon if things don't go my way with a Disc Drive
Enjoy those hallowed first few days.
The fact that they until this day didn't implement the IO api that take advantage of the dedicated hardware of PS5 is crazy. I get that they are a pc focused team and not a very big one with endless resources. And with the massive launch the priorities were other. But the game have been out for a long time and the technical team probably is iddle as the creative leads conceptualize their next title, if they did that this game probably could reach a locked 60FPS offloading the entire streaming system to the decompression and compression dedicated hardware. Like Spider-Man 2 does and allows that insane levels of traveling across the map and instantaneous fast travel anywhere.
I'm interested in the CPU performance of the PS5 Pro versus the PS5, so your video is very informative. Your analysis of CPU-heavy titles is great!
（Google Translate）
Your buff ass character looks funny as hell for some reason. I think it's because I watching over and over.
Great video, i love how you break this all down. My hope is that sony gets it's on PlayStation central engine that prioritize the system as a default while allowing an overlay if necessary for developers core engine features.
Why does nobody test the coop split screen mode on the Pro? 🤦♂️
2:15 "A huge 2.2% pixel hike". I think you meant to say "2.2X". 😃
He’s on drugs
Ah yes, well spotted, that would not be such a big leap would it 🙂
@@NXGamer Imagine if that was part of Sony's official marketing!
Why is there clearly black crush on the ps5 pro in this comparison?
Honestly, I'm 100% convinced that the real competition is GeForce Now. It's $1/day and you have your own 4080 and insane CPU. It can stream at 4k/120....
What mods do you need for your Baldur's Gate 3 main character design? It's so attractive and I want to make the same.
Great video..🌟👍🌟
what capture method are you using? somehow your videos look better than anyone else
Hey can you check RE4 remake next. That is one of my favorite games really curious how it looks and run.
Mike you are the best, thank you for your review
Wow. I thought this game would suffer like others from the dreaded “curse of PSSR”. Bringing flickering and stuttering shadows to a tv near you!
Watching this on my phone at 360p and wondering why I can’t see a difference lmao
Thanks
Is it worth to get the ps5 pro or is it better to wait for 6 or 9 month?
Get a pc with Nvidia gpu😂
Get a PC that way 🪟 's can spy on you.
PS5 pro is $550 system at best but Sony selling it for $700 for some reason. They need to price digital at $350 disk at $420-450 and pro at $550
Yeahhh!
Awesome video ❤
Let's go
It’s a shame the zen2 apu does not run over 4ghz that would get a lot of games over 60fps. Remember with the one x the jaguar cpu was clocked to 2.3ghz from 1.7ghz and amd added cache…
Although I agree. Much of the current games are using either shoddy engines like baldurs gate or Unreal 5 with it's array of issues.
True. It was 1.6 GHz though, but you're right. One X's 2.3GHz boost was indeed impressive. Although I don't remember AMD adding more cache to Jaguar CPU.
Can you show this for dying light 2 ?
It is a shame of a pro mod
Too many patches are disappointing on Pro.
Silent Hill 2 just got an update to fix the Pro patch issues and guess what? It STILL looks bad and worse than it did on the base PS5...
3 bad patch's put of 40+ it's bound to happen, we had poor patch's on the 4 pro and one x last gen so it's a dev issue unfortunately and in that case blooper are to blame
Silent Hill 2 is horribly unoptimized in general. It has bad quad overdraw on distant trees that are obscured by fog. The fog that was introduced in the first game to help performance lol. Developers nowadays know nothing about optimization and games look like shit because of it.
So 3 bad patches makes the pro a bad console lmao
BG3 team should have done better job with performance on consoles especially on ps5
I keep say PlayStation needs free sync for compatible tvs
$380 digital edition (black Friday price world wide) vs $700(more then that in most countries for some reason)is not worth it even if every demanding game was locked at 60. Add game's like this to your library and play them on your ps6 in 3 to 4 years if high frame rate is so important
so dont buy, simple
not all video that contains ps5 pro need to be (it is not worth), sometime the video is just the deep dive to enthusiast who want to know. they dont tell you to buy, they just made it to see the details of the new patch.
@@husen9941it's a scam go watch 7800xt,4070 super and 4080 videos with 5700x3d 5800x3d,7800x3d cpus
NX I do enjoy your videos and knowledge. But on this the problem isn't the PS5 Or the Pro. It's the shoddy legacy engine that baldurs gate uses. There's nothing special in it graphically or CPU wise.
Assassin's creed pushes more CPU and runs fantastic because it's on a better engine that's current and updated.
I mean Unreal 5 although new and pushing fx is bloated and far too resource heavy.
Baldurs gate needs strippjng back and massively updating. The game is a bug fest as well.
Optimization is needed this gen more then Ever.
I do cover that all within the review, did you watch to the section around Know you limitations? As I even demonstrate that here.
@@NXGamer Yep and I know you have to be selective with your words. Don't get me wrong. I love games being on different engines. But when I look at whats going on in a scene and the framerate is tanking even some more modern cpu,gpu's. You know it's the engine.
But I enjoy watching your video's and you do explain more then many other sites.
keep em coming:)
DLSS>PSSR>FSR
XeSS would be equal to PSSR if not sometimes better depending on the implementation
Pssr is great 👏🏻
Woow. Your PRO videos are the best on the YT. Digital Foundry should learn from You how to do that.
So long story short. Save your money for PS6 😂
what memory constraints?
For 800€ this is a weak performance!
So the RX 6800 is actually faster than the PS5 Pro? 6:03 Does anyone still believe the 4070 story?
I mean on Alan Wake 2, GoWR, F1 24 it is doing better than a 6800xt, it depends of the game or engine
@@jonas34ptfernandes38 Alan Wake 2? I don't know man. Watch the DF video. The 4070 was 43% faster than the PS5 Pro and also had much better image quality. Even FSR was better than PSSR in this game. And even the 3070 was faster than the Pro in their testing. The RX 6800 is only 10% slower than the 4070 on average in most games...
Did you watch the video? He literally says that the limiting factor here is the CPU not the GPU. In this particular game, the game is leaning on the CPU for functions the consoles has dedicated hardware for....because this game was designed for PC the game does not use the dedicated hardware and instead uses the CPU as it would on PC which causes the console version to be heavier on console CPU than other games which are built with the console hardware in mind.
This is not an excuse as much as it is an explanation of why the game doesn't perform as well.
@JackJohnson-br4qr did i say 4070 ? I didnt so dont go there, you are forgeting RT performance, Nvidia cards run laps around AMD in terms of that that is why on Alan Wake 2 a 4070 does better by a good margin than the pro
@@jonas34ptfernandes38 The RX 6800 is only 10% slower than the 4070 on average in most games... Here is your answer. And RT? Don't forget the Pro isn't a 4090. PlayStation really can't use path tracing and heavy RT. At medium RT, the 6800 is about 20% slower. So still faster than the Pro.
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Dreamcast gamer
So the ps5 pro is a 6700xt + 3700x pc😂
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@@FurBurger151 wow you're everywhere 🤣👉🤡 still hurting huh
@那人冷靜一點 Dude still push the PC salesman pitch huh.🤣
@@FurBurger151 I'm just saying the truth 😁 i don't work for companies like you do for Sony 😂
@@那人冷靜一點 Nah man I'm just making sure theirs health competition and you bots are kept in check.
PS5PRO vs 4070/SU 😁😊 next video
I bought this game, went into character creation clicked on male then the madness started,I uninstalled it and got my money back woke 🗑️ trash, Best move I ever made😁
Make a GT7 PS5 pro ray tracing frame rate test.
So far is a big disappointment. They literally charge double for the pro for 5 extra fps and most of the time worst image quality ahaha well done sony team. Hope they gonna fire finally this idiot ceo.
"Most of the time worse image quality" is a delusional take.
How is $700 double $500?
@ ps5 digital £309 ps5 pro £699 thats how its even more than double
@@k1cs1m3a8 Now qoute the real prices and not holiday deals for used consoles. Lying doesn't help your case here.
@ this is uk prices u dumb ass.
Don't upgrade your CPU and performance and loading is not much improved, who'd a thunk it..?! not Sony it seems..and this is why I don't touch the PS5 Pro
Missed the part where he said Larian isn’t using the hardware based decompression block? They could be getting more out of it but Larian aren’t doing everything they could be.