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Kia Optima = all day long. Better looking car, inside and out. Great quality, reliability & performance.
Kia give you more for your money than Honda, I love my Optima!!!
Dee Dot A year on, how has it been. I like them too and is at or near tne top of my next car list.
I think the South Koreans are kicking the butts of the Japanese in giving the public a quality product. I have a 2006 Hyundai Sonata that is still running strong and has held up incredibly well. In fact it surprises people when I tell them it is a ten year old car. Everything still works, upholstery is still like new and shocks and struts are still fine for a car that sees a lot of bad Louisiana road surfaces. Even the paint has held up well considering the car never sees a garage. My car is still rust free. I remember my first car a Chevy Vega that was rusting around the windows when it was 3 years old. Cars have come a long way since 1973.
KIA is the best
Accord always, have been driving Accord from 4 years never tired of it
Jaison Pattuvelil yeah cuz you're an Indian duh
Makes me laugh how people are fooled by badges just because one badge has been in North America longer than the other. I have owned GM Ford Chrysler Honda BMW Alfa Romeo VW and now a Hyundai Genesis sedan and just love this new Genesis G80 luxury car. It's beautiful to look at, drives fantastic and been dead reliable since new. I own Korean products and trust their quality products as also own LG, Samsung products.
I had 3 Hondas, including Civic 2002, Accord 2005 EX V6, Acura TLS 2006... But I had 3 Transmission Problems and after TLS, I never purchased Honda Again... And I have 3 Kia.. 2015 Optima Hybrid EX, with TECH $33K, Sorento 2016 SXL $42K, Kia Soul 2016 $15K.. All of them are better than HONDAs... Period...Honda is cheaper inside .. and Engine problems are my main problems with Honda suppose to be solid.. but it didn't worked for me..
Mike Ree I'm still driving my 04 Sorento....i've put about 6k into it over the last 4yrs....part of that is maintenance and things like a radiator and ac compressor....still runs good.
Just got our 2017 SXL with a few miles...Still discovering all the "Bell and Whistles" we have on this premium feeling Optima! (Our third!) Quick run to the grocer revealed that we have Auto high beams with bending LED's, so lets just say super bright and easy! Nappa leather is softer and cushier than the 2012 EX we're still driving. Way excited!! Let's road trip!!
c'mon! the touring accord would have made more sense. $9k difference between the sport and the optima. just saying. the kia is nice though. I agree :).
Ya but, to be fair it's not a comparison video it's a goodbye/hello video.
I mean Kia has gone a long way. Optimas few years ago were cars that made you feel pitty that someone had to drive them. However, this has become a car to look for. In my opnion, Optima and Sonata have got it all right, and they are better looking, more exciting, and give you much better value for the money than all the rest.
Why are you comparing these two models? An Accord sport that you seem to keep knocking trying to compare it to a fully loaded KIA. The accord Touring model would be far better comparison. For what you get on that accord sport, looks, fuel and quality. Hard to compare with similar cars in that price range
honda.com
True but no excuse to still have a old style key. Every new car pretty much has push start.
Yes i agree, but usually higher trim level. All the sport model is, is an LX Model with upgraded wheels, dual exhaust, rocker moldings, trunk lid deck spoiler and interior hybrid leather/cloth seats.
+Elvis Demneri Maybe higher trim levels on Hondas, but most econboxs have push start standard. Even base Altima has push start. Hondas have always been cheap with the options, that's what left the door open for the Koreans to steal sells away!! Why it start with the EX model as the bases for the sport.
Not true and a lot of people are scared of the push button start and smart key. I am in the auto industry..
Korea is the new Japan... agree the variants aren't the same but Kia has better build quality & warranty than Honda.. Kia cars also look better as they have a German Designer from Audi designing their cars...
Definetly!! Korea is now the Japan for cars, electronics and appliances. Though, Honda is still a tad better quality from what I can tell ( not that, that would make a difference if I was buying one, they are both great.).
Kias are nice and all but korean will never get to japans level
Honda used to be the car to get in this car segment 10 years ago but not anymore in 2017. Kia Optima has came a long way and actually I love this car. I've been a long time Honda owner since my high school years but for the first time in my life, I am going to buy this Optima SXL model and ditch my 2012 Accord. Makes perfect sense to buy this car with outstanding warranty and all the features. Thanks for the video for making right decision.
Changed my whole prespective about the accord sport, now I am deff thinking about the Optima!
Just picked up the 2016 SX 3 months ago. LOVE my OPTIMA!
I have a 2011 SX Turbo, still runs great and is pretty quick as well.
+inland85 Sell it! No Resale value and no demand
Alanex Knight I get offers all the time for my car from strangers.
***** Rarely only, else you'll never get to sell a 2012 Optima. While Camry and accord would sell in just a day
No demand, that's odd I see a ton of Optimas on the road.
So your comparing $36k to a 25K car. Doesn't seem fair lol.
Would make sense if he used the Touring trim level of the accord which is the fully loaded one.
True
Kasey Guerra .
salty
Forget a Kia! Hondas are known for not being abused cars. Why? because they're rarely never rentals. Try renting one, it's hard to find.They keep they're value so in the long run their re sell value doesn't drop dramatically.
The Honda Accord is pretty good, love the style, great reviews Dave ,
Picked up a 2016 SXL on 6 Jun and I am loving it. I traded in my 2016 Maxima Platinum because it didn't have all of the amenities that the Optima has.
i love the Optima but trading a 2016 Maxima for it is just dumb
+maximus10463 I was unhappy with the fact that the Maxima did not have power folding mirrors, electronic brake, and heated rear seats. The Optima has all of these. Also, premium fuel is not required for the Optima.
so many honda fanboys feelings burnt to crisps! it wasn't a comparison video, its hello to a kia and good bye to a lame honda :)
i pref honda.
driving for 4 month the same trim and l LOVE it .
NO doubt there is a difference in refinement...
love your honda
Understandable. Both are good cars.
Clayton Nicola I love the KIA Optima!
The only way I would pay 36k for a Kia is if they give me a second one for free lolol
sunny money It's actually the best bang for the buck these days. No to mention very reliable. The issue is "Ego".
Hahahaha i will not take the risk of having two Kia’s I’ll just get a bike instead
Beto rodriguez is that why Kia is the 3rd most reliable brand for 2018 and honda like 5th or 6th
Doudymac please explain how does driving a Honda give you “ego” lol
Someone brainwashed with brands. It's 2019 now (still relevant in 2017), they are making fantastic cars. Who cares about the badge? It's a DAMN good car. What a brainwashed badge snob. Not to mention telling us WHY you wouldn't pay 36k for a Kia.
How can you compare the Honda Accord Sport with a higher level Optima? The Accord Sport is the second trim level, one up from the base so obviously it will be completely different. The Touring Model is more comparable to this Optima, which puts out 278 HP with its V6, 19 inch alloys, LED Headlights and the entire Honda Sensing and Interior Tech Package. Now tell me, does this seem like a fair comparison?
I was think the same...
Optimas are surprisingly roomy cars. They have that small Corolla look on the outside, but the roominess of an Accord or Camry on the inside. So, if you want a car you can zip through traffic in, because of it's smaller size, but at the same time a car where you can stretch your legs out in, the Optima is the better choice.
No 2.0T Optima's were around when I was looking. No 2016 Sonata 2.0T either. In March, I got a 2015 Sonata Sport 2.0T Limited. Only things it's missing from the 2016 Optima SX-L IS: Crash mitigation (2015 has Alert. 2016 has mitigation), surround camera and swivel headlights. Since it was a 2015, I got all sorts of incentives and got it out the door for $27,200. The Accord as spec'd in this video is $26,200 and Honda doesn't deal in the same manner. So I give up a few mpg and I'm ok with that. Retired mechanic and I do not trust a CVT trans built by anyone, let alone hate the driving experience. I looked at a loaded V6 Accord but the seats didn't work for me as well as the dealer's arrogance to give me a reasonable deal.. The Sonata and Optima seats are perfect - I'm 6ft2 and 200 pounds. This makes our third Hyundai/Kia product since our 2008 trouble-free Sonata - traded with 120,000 miles for a 2012 Kia that currently has 82,000 trouble-free miles as well. Resale value isn't really of any concern to me because with the exception of trading the 2008 Sonata for the Forte SX - my other half likes smaller cars and loves the 5 door utility - we keep our cars for hundreds of thousands of miles. BTW, the 2008 Sonata is at 250,000 miles and going in the current owner's hands.
Dave I love your car reviews but this one is absolutely crazy, an accord touring would’ve been a fair comparison to a fully loaded Kia, but also I would never trade a Honda for a Kia, the resale value of an accord and reliability alone beats an Kia any day
you ever look into the accord touring before getting in the kia? ive had bad experiences with hyundai before n im kinda likin the accords.
Your not the only one. Kia's are junk and all of them. The pitch is to get you to buy a car with a 100k warranty, and people not understanding the difference between powertrain and bumper to bumper which ends around 36k, and isn't transferable. The old hook and lie tactic to buy junk. I'll stick with my Camry. My Chevy impala gave me no issues either except for a tire pressure sensor.
How well do the ventilated seats work. I live in Florida
Hey Dave, I'm really enjoying these types of video from you. Fun to see the contrasts from one vehicle to another when u allow us to tour two vehicles with you side by side. I'd like to see Melissa compare the value of the Kia compared to the other competitors in the class which offer similar trim levels.
You got a base model honda with a sport badge on it my honda has keyless start , sunroof and navigation why doesn't this
Hondas' long term reliability and high resale value make the Accord the winner. KIA and Hyundai have some of the worst resale value. That 36k Optima will be worth 18 to 20k in a couple of years while a fully loaded 2 yr old a Accord touring will still push upwards of 25k.
long term reliability of Kia and Hyundais are very good right now. The Honda can only beat them in resale value right now.
Not entirely true. I can find examples of the Accord with over 250,000 or more miles (Gen 7, 7.5, and 8's) Hyundai/Kia still needs to prove they can do that.
+manualtrans257 The reason for that is because Honda has been a very reliable and established car brand since the 80's and 90's. Hyundai/Kia only got to that level by the mid 2000's when they started investing heavily to improve reliability and quality. They opened up plants in Alabama and Georgia.They hired a lot of people from top car makers, like the designer they got from Audi. They started building their own engine at the Alabama plant in the mid to late 2000's. Most their cars from this tern around era have been rock solid. You need only to go by the Hyundai forums you'll hear a lot of stories of people with cars from this run-around era with well over 250k miles and still running a lot of original parts.
not true, Optimas hold value nicely
firstly I wanted to thank you cuz ur amazing, from ur understanding of the nuances of every car and uniqness of each car to just the charisma that u give over the information....
I also wanted to suggest maybe if u can go into more of individual models of each car like for example the accord: the lx, sport, ex, exl, ecetera. thank you.
If I'm not mistaken, the 7 speed dual clutch is only available on the 1.6L Turbo....
Nice video but I'd you are talking about style on the accord get touring
Hello Dave, you are comparing a full loaded Kia with a mid level trim Honda. A good apples to apples comparison would be the Honda touring trim with this Kia. Then i think many people if not most of them would say hello to the Honda. Also in terms of acceleration, braking, practicality, handling, fuel economy, etc its hard to beat a Honda at this price range. I guess thats why more than 300k of them are sold every single year just in the US.
is not a comparison dumb ass
maximus10463 He clearly compares the two vehicles which one is better and which one is not...
I'm torn between this and the camaro. Still trying to figure which car makes more sense for me at the moment
Don't know why a key would be viewed as a negative compared to push button start. Only notable diff is twisting the key and pushing a button to start. For some reason, pushing a button to starta car is considered cooler i guess.
Great reviews! Ride quality, quietness, and 0-60! Possible scale of 1-10 rating on each to get an idea of how you feel it does compared to other cars you have tested!
I trust Honda more as a brand, but I would take an Optima over an Accord any day, even if similarly loaded.
Doesn't really mean anything to trust something "as a brand"...........
Dave, I know that you are a BIG fan of push button starts and sunroofs and that is fine but I will pass on both, esp. the former since they can cost up to $2,000 to replace if they go bad. The Sport has just enough of what I need and I do not need all the tech gadgets, also. But not sure about the 19" wheels and the rough ride with those that some complaint about on the Sport and I sure wish it had a better stereo system. Anyhow, still a car I am considering.
Not close for a comparison. I have an Accord EX-L V6 and I'd never buy another Honda. Interior is cheap, lots of hard plastics. Exterior is shoddy. The ride quality isn't good and it has huge amounts of road noise. I was very impressed with the Optima when I drove it. It should be on everyone's list. Also push button start is just a fad.
You're funny... this is not even close to being a comparison video but I appreciate the laugh :-)
+Everyman Driver 😆😉
Nice review, but I think the comparison is off. Different trim levels. The EX or EXL model would have been a better comparison because they have heated seats and a host of other amenities on the 2016 accords.
test the ventilated seats . how good are they
I own the accord sport black on black and I love it
Kia😒
I have an 2016 Accord EX that DOES have the two screens, satellite radio, nav and push button start. It's a great car and I'll take it over an Optima any day of the week.
Why in the hell would you be comparing a accord sport to this Kia and not he accord touring? This video makes no sense.
actually having a key is good if the battery dies in the key fob youll still be able to get in ti ur car
you do know for push button start cars there will always be a physical key hidden in the remote?
willis jordan that's doesn't happen often. In fact it almost never does. And if so, it has an actual key within the fob. Keyless is the best. You can never lock the key in the car, you can leave the car running...lock it...and have the key on you(this is good when it's winter and you want the car to be warm when you get back or cool in the summer when you get back)
Soooo you're actually thinking these engineers didn't think about that? Smdh! There's a key in the fob!
The Kia's warranty is the best. 10yr/100k mile powertrain, 5yr/60k bumper to bumper. That's been around for some time. Bye Bye Takata.
you are comparing a Sport model with a SXL on the Optima, of course the Honda will have a key. why didnt you match with the Accord V6 Touring, its got more grunt, quicker and lots of tech too
I agree... I own a 2016 touring. And I absolutely love it! Definitely faster then that sxl too ;) and a lot of tech.
I agree.
it has wireless charching , just put ur phone by the usb port and aux there is a charging pad
Both nice car but $36 for Kia? I think I pass and paid an extra $2-4k and get the Infiniti Q50 instead.
Thanks for the great video! I actually own a 2013 Honda Accord Sport which is basically the same as the red one and do plan to upgrade to the 2016 Optima in a year or two. I think your video provides a very well rounded tour of both vehicles. Just out of curiosity what town was this filmed? I LOVE that neighborhood!
Your mother's kitchen
too bad sport doesn't come with sunroof carplay key proximity etc in USA. In Canada you get all these options with Accord sport.
Hey Dave will you be reviewing the all new 2017 Fusion?
Got a 2016 accord exl v6, love it.
not anymore kia is number 1 in the charts for quality
kia number 1 for quality............... nice try communist
+Ammar Anwar the look and feel speaks for itself the accord is scared they are already preparing a full redesign
tete Bbb
not sure how those 2 are related...
Ammar Anwar it's even charted honda will never be quality
So im deciding between the Optima and Accord, do you think I should go with Accord?
Yes
yes! quality first!
jincuteguy the optima is better quality and more reliable. Honda / Acura would have been the right answer 10 years ago, but things change and they're really slacking now.
Go with the Accord Touring. Honda is a more reliable engine...
Freddy K Not in this current line up. If you're buying a brand new car, Kia currently makes more reliable cars than Honda. This wasn't always the case, but a brands history doesn't always reflect what they're currently doing.
Great Video, I just subscribed to your channel... I bought the 2016 Honda Accord Touring, and not really happy with it lack's of details... The Touring should have come with full LEDs inside and outside. Also Honda should have included full Ground effects Spoiler.
Can you guys do a 0-60 mph test on the Optima SXL?
The name of Kia hurts because I’ve had so many problems
My 2016 Honda Accord got 289k miles on it and haven't had not one problem under the hood. A kia could never 😂
Better comparison would be the Honda Accord touring all day my choice !!! :) but the Kia is nice also!!
This isn't a comparison video.
+Everyman Driver yes it is
Honestly Honda’s are decent but they charge way too much from my experience. So I went and bought a Kia instead. The Forte I own has more to offer and the Civic I test drove they wanted $4000 more then Kia asked for and got more on the Kia for my money then the Civic. Sorry Honda but you charge way too much so I’m in the Kia Family in continuation. Oh and I know your vehicles you are reviewing are the Accord and Optima plus I know the cars I mentioned are off topic but I needed to add. Thanks.
I'm not really a Honda fan (except for motorcycles) but the first problem with the Accord is a...(gasp) KEY!!!!! C'mon, seriously? Wow, too many Americans(I'm American) are so spoiled.
Does that have a cd player?
Which one faster and smoother
Really, for 10,000 more, such a bad comparison! Where is that honda accord touring for the same price? Honda resale price makes the honda so much better of an investment!
Dave Seymour Yeahh but there is more to a car than resale value.
you buy a car for a investement ?
They both great cars but the Kia is where it's at I got the 2017 lx
Ever thought about putting the new emblem on the kia ? (I personally love the mystery behind it)
Honda smashes KIa in Quality and resale value I just bought my 7th New Honda, a 2017 Honda Accord sport
thegoldenhurricane congratulations...you bought an engine and four wheels because the accord sport has little to no features(and that's the third trim in the lineup)
KEINOMADDONE It is the second trim level. Second to last, actually. It has enough features. What more are you expecting? Besides GPS which is only offered for the top trim level.
SourStrawberrys dude the car is a very basic car. dave even said it, he didn't have much to say about the car. why can't people realize that car companies like nissan and honda are only selling their names and reputation now because they dont offer much and they want to buy their top trim to get any comfort amenities and start admitting that new comers have caught up and are passing these companies. the new comers offer great style, luxury amenities for cheaper and on lower trims. things like panoramic roof etc. modern and not the classic three box architecture and are just as reliable because the tech and knowledge is there for everyone to access.
I don't need a moonroof, gps, lane sensing etc The 19 inch factory rims are nice though! I bought it for $21,600 with 1.9 % interest rate. Thanks for your concern though.
KEINOMADDONE a lot of people still think the car market is where it was 10yrs ago when Toyota and Honda reigned supreme. A lot companies have caught up with quality and reliability, especially Hyundai/Kia Which are now above Honda on the quality and reliability scale according to latest research.
the rims are stock ?
What I don't like about Hondas is the auto transmissions don't have manual shifting
why is having a key bad?
2014 sx turbo love it best car i ever bought
Why are you Comparing A loaded Optima V.S. A Sport Accord. Lets Bring an EXL or Touring Model Accord and see who wins the Comparo. This is Ridiculous lol. The Optima is 36Grand and the second you drive it off the lot its going to be worth half of that. Kia= (Killed in Automobile )
This isn't a comparison. Thanks for the comment.
you are as dumb as it gets
This really isn’t a fair comparison, It would be fair if you had the $36,000 accord, however the Kia optima is actually more reliable and would be my pick because it has a panoramic sunroof, better infotainment, but Honda sensing works really well also does Kia optima’s lane assist so in the driver assistance it’s a tossup. Honda CVT’s Have proven not to be reliable even if the engines are, plus the Kia has a better warranty and is doing much better than Honda in JD power, right up there with Lexus, Toyota, and Porsche
LOL
you act like a total business man.. everything you say may appeal to a daily consumer but the things you were talking about turned me off from the car lmao
Thanks dude.
I wonder how much you were paid for this. Damn you sound so biased. "Feels like its even better...this is gonna be fun....fold down arm rest yes yes yes...what else...oh! USB port" Give me a break. Trunk looks bigger! lmao. Dislike. Peace
Don't be mad. Not his fault Honda can't keep up with the nice cars KIA are putting out nowadays.
What is the name of that color?
I would have more confidence in Honda Engines in general for durability.
I guess thisbis going to be my next car Kia it is
Can't believe the sport has less hp than the stock optima. I thought at least 200+ maybe 220-240ish. Still though honda is proven reliable.
I would assume all autos are now and i hope my optima has the reliability of toyo,honda and nissan..
Oh i just looked at the touring accord and thats closer to the sx. I thought the sport would have more but the touring is where its at.
Soo top model v top model ill go with honda, more hp and proven track record reliability. And according to google about 5k more. Msrp 29,9 vs 34,4 so close. And nobody in their right mind pays msrp.
that Honda Accord would hold more value than a Kia Optima any day I remember I used to own a Kia Optima when getting in an accident what was that one thing they told you it's better to get rid of the car then to fix it it cost more to fix a vehicle versus the value of the vehicle and the loss that you take you always be upside down in value on a Kia
22 mpg very low i thing is the same for my 2007 Honda accord 2.4 k series engine
My counsin loves his optima he got a better price and warranty he loves it better mpg also
Honda's and Toyota's Americans are so typical.
Honda the best!!!!!!!!!!
Honda Accord on Car and Drivers best record 34 times (unmatched) and Kia Optima Discontinued......
Haha... twice with the convenience phone tech for "hands free DRIVING"....HAHAHA...
Don't worry dude, I still love ya!
Imagine calling this a real review and comparing two different trim levels....
hurricanewarning11 Are you asking me to imagine because this wasn’t defined as a real review.
Not really sure what you're gaining by the extra 10 grand. heated and ventilated seats, push button start, yet still smaller rims. not much to brag about.
A surround view camera system, sunshades for the back passengers, a panoramic sunroof, nappa leather seating, wireless phone charging. These are things you won't get on any Accord. I think the Optima's cabin looks much nicer, especially with that deep red or white leather
and more power
JDubbs07 Yea but half the features like wireless charging and etc have to be bought as an option...
Freddy K he wasn't sure what the extra 10 goes towards. It's those things. It's worth it for those who like to buy fully loaded.
Bro I thought Kia is the luxury brand of Hyundai if so why would you compare to a Honda Accord Sport. At least the touring should be on his video, Anyways thanks for the vid
I know this isn't a review video, just curious thanks!
honda only 5 years warranty
kia 10 years warranty kia win
I want that panoramic roof.
WHY ARE YOU NOT COMPARING WITH THE TOURING INSTEAD......DOESN'T SEEM FAIR.....WHATS UP WITH THAT?
PoeticFlair Photography this is NOT a comparison... did you watch it? Geez.
CVT with paddle shifters 😂
So manly
The red calipers kill the Kia. It ain't no Ferrari!
I love you everyman driver
why don't you compare to Nissan maxima ? more room and power and luxury.....and the 2016 Honda accord touring is now 30k grand.
Maxima is not a midsize car.
dude u are not comparing the same model.