Where we went wrong with the COVID-19 pandemic | Bob Rauner | TEDxOmaha

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  • Опубліковано 9 вер 2024
  • NOTE FROM TED: This talk was delivered in November 2023. Research around COVID-19 remains ongoing. For more information, see below:
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    Leaders are faced with tough decisions all the time. The greater the ambiguity and complexity of the problem, the harder the decisions they have to make, and the greater the risk of getting it wrong. There are times when this complexity, risk, and impact collide together, and sometimes this collision is on a global scale, as with a global pandemic such as COVID-19. Dr. Bob Rauner (MD) takes us through the tough decisions faced by many leaders and leadership teams, as they navigated the impact of COVID-19, and what the best decisions were at each twist and turn of the pandemic. In the words of Soren Kierkegaard, “Life can only be understood backwards, but must be lived going forwards.” What lessons have been learned, and how could the next pandemic be navigated better.
    Bob Rauner, MD, MPH, FAAFP splits his time between 2 jobs, Chief Medical Officer of OneHealth Nebraska ACO and President of Partnership for a Healthy Nebraska, as well as serving on the board of directors of Lincoln Public Schools and the National Association of Accountable Care Organizations. Bob received his undergraduate degree in philosophy at Creighton University, his medical degree at the University of Nebraska Medical Center, and his master of public health degree at the Johns Hopkins School of Public Health. He started his medical career as a family physician serving rural and underserved communities for 15 years, and then transitioned into health leadership and policy roles after finishing his MPH in 2010. This talk was given at a TEDx event using the TED conference format but independently organized by a local community. Learn more at www.ted.com/tedx

КОМЕНТАРІ • 122

  • @atenas80525
    @atenas80525 5 місяців тому +7

    The covid response violated all the most basic, fundamental principles of epidemiology

  • @aakuster
    @aakuster 5 місяців тому +11

    We need REPRESENTATIVES not
    "Leaders".

  • @Jack-hy1zq
    @Jack-hy1zq 5 місяців тому +22

    "Can we do better"??? Can you possibly do any worse?

    • @Spartan3D213
      @Spartan3D213 20 днів тому

      They will try, hasn't stopped them before.

  • @cyberguru09
    @cyberguru09 5 місяців тому +20

    Next time?

  • @davit1652
    @davit1652 4 місяці тому

    From Dr. Bob Rauner's TEDx talk, I learned about the critical decisions leaders face during global crises like COVID-19. His blend of medical expertise and leadership experience provided valuable insights into managing complex, high-stakes situations effectively. I appreciated his reference to Soren Kierkegaard, emphasizing that while we must act in the present, reflection and understanding come afterward. This talk highlighted the importance of preparedness and informed decision-making, offering lessons for navigating future pandemics more successfully.

  • @OldOneTooth
    @OldOneTooth 5 місяців тому +8

    1 in 350 people dying a mix of young and old on average but so much worse or better in some parts than others, even with minimizing reporting practices in some of the worst case states.
    It should all have been better not a Mish mash.
    My country had an expert run the response. We had negative excess deaths and eliminated the virus locally till we had 90%+ vaccination.

    • @OldOneTooth
      @OldOneTooth 4 місяці тому

      Klaus_Nobb it was a top ten cause of death in all age groups including children. Also worth looking at the unvaccinated age spread versus vaccinated, but yes younger people where more able to survive the ling term damage it did to their bodies, though many ended up with long covid and increased heart problems (see athlete data from prevaccine covid infections).

    • @bdubb5390
      @bdubb5390 4 місяці тому

      Lies!!!

  • @samreenkaur6716
    @samreenkaur6716 5 місяців тому +5

    I don't why it popped up in my UA-cam algorithm but I really really pray there never is a next time !! It mentally traumatized me and I still have nightmares and panic attacks ! The entire experience changed my personality and being !! For everyone who lost someone there were equally a lot of us who lost their entire being maybe not a person !

  • @xyxy5978
    @xyxy5978 5 місяців тому +14

    I think it's very interesting that he as an American openly said that when kids don't go to school the first concern isn't education, but instead parents who can't go to work. He seems to think that's normal.

    • @the_love_token
      @the_love_token 5 місяців тому

      School boards are often run by business leaders on a political path. Business connected. Businesses can’t operate if their employees’kids aren’t babysitting them. They view schools as baby sitting services. When COVID started, my local school district consulted business leaders in the decision making. Not employees. Not parents. Not students.

  • @tinalove9945
    @tinalove9945 5 місяців тому +20

    WE WERE BETRAAAAAYED!
    😮😮😮😮😮😢😢😢😢😢

  • @arnieslab
    @arnieslab 5 місяців тому +15

    I felt jipped during the pandemic. So many people got to hang out at home and I ended up working more than I’ve ever worked lol.

  • @tomjamisonfrazier
    @tomjamisonfrazier 5 місяців тому +29

    Let me guess give the government more control and we will all be safer

    • @papasokratis
      @papasokratis 5 місяців тому +5

      in the best case people are educated enough to listen to the actual experts and follow their advise, then no government is needed.

    • @Betweoxwitegan
      @Betweoxwitegan 5 місяців тому

      ​@@papasokratisWho do you think funds the research the experts do? Who do you think manages/sanctions the allocation and distribution of resources required? You anarchists and libertarians are buffoons.

    • @freesk8
      @freesk8 5 місяців тому

      Yep. It's about power, not about saving lives. But we are heading towards a dictatorship that will kill many more people than a virus.

    • @Baldrick187
      @Baldrick187 5 місяців тому

      @@papasokratis scientists, `experts` are financed by governments.

    • @PepitoMegaChocolato
      @PepitoMegaChocolato 5 місяців тому +4

      ​@@papasokratisI don't know how you can say that after what we've been through. I don't know where you live, but for my part, in France, the State was woven into our daily lives in a way that we hadn't seen since Stalin's USSR. We had to sign an exit permit to leave our house, if the crazy desire to get some fresh air crossed our minds. This is precisely the grayest problem with the covid crisis, it is that state power has replaced experts, doctors. It was the government that forced me to get vaccinated, it was not my doctor after consultation. This is where the nuance lies. And it's not a small nuance

  • @shifter1089
    @shifter1089 5 місяців тому +11

    That first remark about being like Canada is bs. Population size, age, health status is important in determining the numbers.

    • @michelleodell1236
      @michelleodell1236 5 місяців тому

      More than that is wrong. Maybe in Nebraska they were told they had reached herd immunity, but definitely not in NY.

    • @cymarsev
      @cymarsev 5 місяців тому

      Exactly!

  • @SylvainDemuyter
    @SylvainDemuyter 5 місяців тому +13

    If you bought Pfizer stocks, you made no mistake.

  • @laurasgarden2039
    @laurasgarden2039 5 місяців тому +9

    Mental health crisis is real I struggle with anxiety depression ptsd COVID made things worst

  • @lindao.ezenwammadu7056
    @lindao.ezenwammadu7056 5 місяців тому +13

    Lies and more lies.

  • @andersjohnson9565
    @andersjohnson9565 4 місяці тому

    IMO, by far the biggest mistake was that the "real experts" censored dissenters instead of engaging with them. It is rational to distrust people who refuse to debate.

  • @phansen1011
    @phansen1011 5 місяців тому +11

    A good mantra: Everywhere, everyone was betrayed.

    • @matthew-jy5jp
      @matthew-jy5jp 5 місяців тому

      You mean except all the countries who actually handled it properly and had I don't know like a million less deaths than the United States ? It has apparently you didn't hear anything about that either 😂 Were you too busy going to school board meetings and crying about your child having to wear a mask and how determental it was to his sanity ? 😂 You people should all stop acting like you're an authority on the subject matter because none of you are qualified to talk about it

  • @SafeAndEffectiveTheySaid
    @SafeAndEffectiveTheySaid 4 місяці тому +3

    Follow the money!

  • @BusbyBabe4life
    @BusbyBabe4life 5 місяців тому +61

    Everywhere. We were betrayed

    • @Narrow-Pather
      @Narrow-Pather 5 місяців тому +8

      *Starting with Gain Of Function..*

    • @jen6741
      @jen6741 5 місяців тому +5

      Nothing went right.

    • @emiliog.4432
      @emiliog.4432 5 місяців тому

      Oh stop the nonsense. A Covid virus will kill more people the next time. Trump lied and botched it. We were learning as time went on and made some mistakes but Trump lied, just to save himself. He doesn’t care about America.

    • @adamnowak5719
      @adamnowak5719 5 місяців тому

      Be prepared for next pandemic around 2030-2031.

    • @iantaakalla8180
      @iantaakalla8180 5 місяців тому +3

      There is no need for a Ted Talk. I mean, yes, we should track how badly each aspect got, but everybody can agree COVID-19 is not just a tipping point, but also a point of no return on the quality of life in the US. That is, it will never be as good as it was before then dramatically so. Before, maybe policy could have solved things. Now, a new system is in place.

  • @robertrafer9422
    @robertrafer9422 5 місяців тому +19

    This guy is funded by the CDC, would not listen to anything he says. Bought and paid for...

  • @laurasgarden2039
    @laurasgarden2039 5 місяців тому +14

    Life has never been the same since

  • @denniskatinas
    @denniskatinas 5 місяців тому +18

    The depopulation part and the part of not allowing good meds.

    • @SZG65
      @SZG65 5 місяців тому +1

      Exactly! Here's one for you: In 2006 (I recorded this incoming signal) "Covid, H1N1. They're planning a pandemic. Ivermectin's the cure." They put it into the movie Transformers (2007) as "The sound that hacked the network".

    • @chrislaw4702
      @chrislaw4702 4 місяці тому

      a plandemic for sure .

  • @piku5637
    @piku5637 5 місяців тому +19

    A few oligarchs shouldn’t own and control the means of production, distribution and exchange. Workers make the world run, workers should run the world.🌎🇺🇸🇨🇦

    • @freesk8
      @freesk8 5 місяців тому

      Socialism fails everywhere it is tried, and to the greater extent it is implemented, the greater is the human misery.

  • @pepper419
    @pepper419 4 місяці тому

    We need a healthier population to begin with, to fight off these things.

  • @az55544
    @az55544 5 місяців тому +3

    I so hoped he was going to overlay a voting map onto deaths.

  • @thomassutherland4330
    @thomassutherland4330 5 місяців тому +1

    There is no next time or first time will not comply

  • @carlschleg5822
    @carlschleg5822 5 місяців тому +6

    Very much a mouthpiece for the GOVERNMENT!!
    SHOW ME THE AUTOPSIES from Covid...

  • @ThegrayareawithYvette
    @ThegrayareawithYvette 5 місяців тому +7

    I wonder when they were checking updated data/research were they also noticing any trends of who was getting sick, how effective was masking and how effective vaccine really was...

    • @macdisciple
      @macdisciple 5 місяців тому +2

      That's literally what public health people do.

    • @leonardofabbri7930
      @leonardofabbri7930 5 місяців тому +2

      Plandemical orchestra, stuff needed to be sold no matter what

    • @scj2117
      @scj2117 4 місяці тому

      Most TED Talks here are short (well under an hour) and intended for a general audience of curious laypeople. I do not know how many people would be interested in a long lecture which resembled an advanced statistics class.

  • @crossroadskeeper347
    @crossroadskeeper347 4 місяці тому

    I love how we are overcomplicating this. I will boil it down. It was us as a whole and the need to believe we have progressed as a people so much more than we have simply because we have gadgets.
    I medically couldn't wear a mask, nor could I afford to go to a doctor to issue me a card that didn't exist pre-pandemic. During the mandates, at leastg once a week I was getting my life threatened especially since I ride the bus. At least every two weeks with a gun. These are people who clump together because, they have a mask on while I am trying to socially distance.w Defend myself verbally? that got me thrown off the bus. I had so many busses just pass me at the stop. And we're not even talking about the workplace and trying to buy almost anything. I could last 15-30 minutes with a mask on a good day (even though I probably shouldn't have) but there were other days. And yes, I was one of those essential workers that kept the country going during the pandemic especially the beginning of it.
    Now in the aftermath, I am less likely to defend the bus driver being harrassed. Afterall, given the right circumstances she would scream for my death with everyone else. Little old lady? Even though I am a big man, I remember the little old lady screaming for my death, even though pre-pandemic I would have given my life for her.
    That's where we went wrong.

  • @jasonyoung1242
    @jasonyoung1242 5 місяців тому +5

    Canada only has a fraction of our population

  • @scj2117
    @scj2117 4 місяці тому

    Thank you.
    One of the problems that I am hearing is one of "Marketing". When the powers "error on the side of caution", they do not adequately point out that the worst case did not occur precisely because of actions implemented. Instead they allow the narrative to slide to "those powers panicked; it wasn't that bad." They actually succeeded in avoiding the worst case due to the diligent action they implemented. They need to take the credit, and maybe a couple of victory laps.
    People who understand that "this is a new virus", do understand that the recommendations will change as more is learned. Another problem with our science illiteracy is that too much of the public see science as facts, immutable and final, when so much is theory (Based on abundant available data). When more data causes the theories to evolve, the public is not able to accept that this is normal and expected.

  • @pepper419
    @pepper419 4 місяці тому

    I would like to what else was wrong with the patients that died. A lot more got well, so what in fact did they die of? How ill were they before they got Covid?

  • @riddikulusasmr
    @riddikulusasmr 5 місяців тому +2

    What do you mean next time? 🤨💀

  • @TheMagicLemur
    @TheMagicLemur 5 місяців тому

    Quite a good assessment, though I'd like to see a similar analysis of lockdowns alone.
    Frustratingly, scientists *still* tend to only talk from their adrenal glands about March 2020.

  • @antonioas709
    @antonioas709 5 місяців тому +15

    So many lies in this speech.

    • @NAP1983
      @NAP1983 5 місяців тому +5

      Where are you getting your information from?

    • @maggiebcs1406
      @maggiebcs1406 5 місяців тому +2

      @@NAP1983 under a rock evidently…🙄

    • @antonioas709
      @antonioas709 5 місяців тому

      @NAP1983 why would you believe this guy who is telling you it was dangerous there were many doctors who with proof with the letters from the nih basically telling them how misreport covid deaths. Even Lena wu the director of the said covid deaths were misreportdd at an alarming rare. Then not too mention the pcr tests were not even meant to diagnose disease. The inventor of the pcr test said that himself and exposed your facial. Also go read rfk Jr's book or watch his documentary.

    • @antonioas709
      @antonioas709 5 місяців тому

      @maggiebcs1406 bet you guys have let the dr or will let the doctor give your babies the hep b vaccine on the day they're born

  • @tomjamisonfrazier
    @tomjamisonfrazier 5 місяців тому +7

    What a dupe

  • @dougmicheals6037
    @dougmicheals6037 5 місяців тому +2

    Funny that these academics have been wrong about everything from day one, yet they still wanna talk?

    • @leonardofabbri7930
      @leonardofabbri7930 5 місяців тому +1

      They still have to admit what the real origin of Covid was.

  • @RobespierreThePoof
    @RobespierreThePoof 5 місяців тому +6

    I don't think anyone really wants to hear about COVID at this point, to be honest

    • @parmawen8284
      @parmawen8284 5 місяців тому +1

      Those who do not learn history are doomed to repeat it.

    • @Baldrick187
      @Baldrick187 5 місяців тому

      I want responsible ones for that global scheme to answer for the crime.

  • @cdv5514
    @cdv5514 4 місяці тому

    A Ted talk about how we should do better, "next time" , in a pandemic ? LOL

  • @Dvtheme
    @Dvtheme 5 місяців тому +3

    Covid was real ... Who thinks same

    • @leonardofabbri7930
      @leonardofabbri7930 5 місяців тому

      also the plandemical orchestra with lots of instrumental notes played in order to sell the product was real

    • @pepper419
      @pepper419 4 місяці тому

      Covid was real, but how sick were the people that got it before they got it? A lot more people survived.

  • @Quiche543
    @Quiche543 5 місяців тому +7

    This b.s.!!!!!

  • @user-ku6jl7lt1w
    @user-ku6jl7lt1w 5 місяців тому

    Hi

  • @maggiebcs1406
    @maggiebcs1406 5 місяців тому

    I was following YLE the last few years. Very helpful.

  • @leonardofabbri7930
    @leonardofabbri7930 5 місяців тому +3

    Zero swabs, zero jabs. Proud.

  • @user-ku6jl7lt1w
    @user-ku6jl7lt1w 5 місяців тому

    How are you

  • @user-ku6jl7lt1w
    @user-ku6jl7lt1w 5 місяців тому

  • @user-ku6jl7lt1w
    @user-ku6jl7lt1w 5 місяців тому

    Hi there

  • @earnhar768
    @earnhar768 5 місяців тому +4

    Nobody knows what they are talking about. This guy included.

  • @anthonos1
    @anthonos1 5 місяців тому +1

    The short answer: yes, everywhere.

  • @amryan7571
    @amryan7571 5 місяців тому +3

    THERES NOT GOING TO BE A NEXT TIME DONT YOU GET IT???

    • @tamaramccarthy8811
      @tamaramccarthy8811 5 місяців тому

      Ummmm. History states THIS was a next time! So yes, there WILL be a next time. Check the numbers on plague and Spanish Flu.

    • @michelleodell1236
      @michelleodell1236 5 місяців тому

      We will never again be exposed to a new virus? That's not realistic.

    • @hannesRSA
      @hannesRSA 5 місяців тому +1

      😂

  • @bdubb5390
    @bdubb5390 4 місяці тому

    Lol...😂😂this guy serious. The reset is here next plague soon. 😮😮

  • @scottmcintosh4397
    @scottmcintosh4397 5 місяців тому +1

    🇨🇳 Not holding the Chicoms responsible for the Chinavirus 🦠🧫🔬
    That was our FIRST mistake......
    🌌🔭