I've been wanting to watch a full experience on the unboxing of Legion 9 without cuts and extra edits just pure unboxing feels. Thank you Mash IT for this unboxing! More power!
Glad you enjoyed it, I was in two minds if people wanted to see an unboxing as a lot of people just prefer a pure review so your comment helps me decide to keep unboxing new releases of products
I really wanted to have a good look at it but it meant taking the whole laptop apart which I don’t want to risk until I have completed the review in case I screw it up 😂
Informative and concise--great! Thanks. I am quite interested in this laptop, with a 4090. The combination of excellent performance, display, slimness, and reasonable fan noise is appealing. I like the two Thunderbolt 40 ports too.
Build quality on legions has been good for some time now, but I have serious concerns about their manufacturing tolerances. My L5p for example had issue with the keyboard deck being raised at the centre, inconsistent backlighting and slightly crooked hinge fittings. They all worked and felt solid, but the little things matter. Apple is in the opposite camp, they have extremely tight tolerances but atrocious build quality on their laptops. This shouldn't be hard for Lenovo, their Thinkpad line has none of these issues. Honestly if they made legion laptops with the Thinkpad aesthetic I'd buy one tomorrow.
@@morganvici6543 For instance, the hinges on macbooks are generally engineered to within 1in-lb of tolerance to the magnitude of torque required, so inevitably they fail after a few years. The space between components is generally insufficient, so the signals often cross and components short out. They had a design on the macbook pro a few years ago that blew hot air on the display assembly, causing the glue there to weaken,bulge and eventually the lid would come apart. Constant BGA failures, voltage spikes and so on point to insufficient QA. I can go on. Louis Rossmann covered this pretty well though.
I like keyboard layout and overall design. Not a fan of small palm rest and color tho. Really wanna see temperature, fan noise and power efficiency comparison with other machines with the same specs. I couldn't afford it anyway haha
Fantastic!....but now I'm wondering if I should've waited for this thing to come out before I got the M16! In fairness, the M16 has been a great laptop but this watercooling setup is really interesting. Especially without the external pump/rad. I eagerly await the temp benchmarks on this! I haven't seen any other tech cannels on YT who actually have their hands on one of these yet! Thanks!
This laptop sucks ass. That little loop is worse than a simple copper heatpipe (you can see both cpu and gpu at 80C), so the fact that it costs twice as much as a same specced 7i makes it a complete scam.
@@Chris-lg7rc I've enjoyed it. I have the 4090 config. I love the aesthetic of the M16. The design is one of the reasons I bought it. And the CherryMX keyboard is a dream. I feel like the Alienware laptops are scrutinized because of the high CPU temps. But the excellent GPU temps appear to be overlooked. For example, in games my CPU will regularly hit 100C however the GPU hits a high of 73C. And while the CPU hits 100c, it's still pulling 75-90W in games and scores just as high as competitors in Cinebench or 3dMark tests. So it's interesting to see that the Lenovo allows the GPU to hit 84c and then kicks in the liquid cooling that *might* then bring the GPU to temps that the M16 already sustains through regular air cooling. Other advantages of the M16 is cost. It was way cheaper than any of the competitors at the time I bought it which is also against the Alienware stereotype. And as of typing this, the M16 is already on sale for $700CDN less than even when I bought it a few months ago. So for a unit that will perform well, look great, have fantastic build quality, and is cheaper than competitors while delivering similar performance I think the M16 is a good buy. But if you have extra money to spend, I can see why the Lenovo would be appealing with the Carbon Fiber exterior and Mini LED display (although I'd wait for Dave's full review of it before considering). As for the Blade, I'm not sure it's competitive. Yes it's a bit thinner, but ultimately has a similar footprint to other 16" units and for the slightly thinner unit you're paying a huge cost premium and what looks like lower performance than other similar units due to thermal throttling (from the reviews I saw).
The m16 is still a solid machine plus a lot cheaper with more storage and easier to upgrade ram. That Legion MiniLED is gorgeous though....Buying a laptop is always a nightmare, as there is always something new to try and tempt you 🤣
It would be nice to see the temperatures and FPS when a gaming monitor with Full HD resolution is connected to it. Sure that it has to be less hot and less noisy, the main question is how much.
I prefer the small palm rest because I do not rest my palms on my computer . Is the water cooling system closed ??? With coolant already in the closed system ?? I don’t understand why there is not a external pump
Fantastic overview! Disappointed about the inverted MOBO and initial Cinebench scores... Remember not to "undervolt" using Vantage since it is actually up to a 50mV overvolt. You have to use Throttlestop (9.6) or the BIOS.
I only ever use TS! I love not only how good the UV options are but I also use the profiles. But thanks for the pointer, I didn't realise there was a bug in vantage :)
Fantastic looking machine, too bad the company's North America North Carolina sales business unit laid off a lot of good workers in January and threw them out on the street causing them to lose their homes and apartments. Also the warranty and support from Lenovo is horrid even if you are within warranty period.
I hate it bro trust me. However, that's part of the business. Payroll is the first thing a business can cut to reduce costs. They didn't have a great year in terms of sales.
Lenovo pushing their way to high end laptop gaming. I like that they are doing that but unless they do something different, people aren't going to prefer their laptops. Not that they are bad, it's just they are the "Honda" of laptops. They need an "Acura" now.
My only question is, is the mini led worth it and is the current gpu can handle the 3200x2000 resolution? (will see more results in your full review in the coming weeks)
So far I am really impressed with the mini led, almost oled quality and the 165hz is pretty smooth. I will run a few demanding games at 3000x2000 over the next few days and see how it holds up but bf2042 at high settings played well
Good video but I really wish you would’ve removed that inverted motherboard for this review. I really wanted to get a look at the ram slots and that coveted “water pump” gimmick
Unless you want the mini led screen, the Lenovo Legion Pro 7i Gen 8 is the way to go price wise. In uk you can’t customise the RAM and stuck with 64gb if you want the rtx4090. I’d also prefer AMD cpu over 13980hx but great colour display though..
@@MashITTech Good to hear. Happy with my RTX 4080 Pro 7i and the 9i looks great overall. I guess I'd have liked to see three type C and A ports as I personally still use a fair bit of type A ports on my Pro 7i but that's me nitpicking.
Did you have any issues with your RGB keyboard lights ? Apparently people are having issues setting colors or if set to a static color like white, some keys are suffering from a yellow tint which they’re saying is a hardware issue. Getting my 9i tomorrow, hoping this isn’t the case.
My lighting has been great but I must admit I don't use a white profile, I always find RGB lighting has a tinge on the white as its made from colours, they never use a RGBW chip.
@@MD-ky2dt half and half so far. It performs great in terms of raw power but not without its drawbacks. It runs extremely hot and loud. I had undervolt it to get it down to acceptable thermals. Now I’m at about 75-80c while gaming max settings under load. Fan still ramps up and this is with a cooling pad as well. I could adjust the fan curve but I’m more concerned about thermals and I use headphones anyways. As I mentioned above the rgb is pretty useless unless you want the constant rainbow. Hopefully a software fix is in the works. The display however is amazing, super bright and crisp but there is noticeable dimming as in, if you put your cursor against a black background it’ll grey out. That’s just the nature of mini-led but it doesn’t bother me. People with the 9i have also reported ghosting but I havent noticed as of yet. Going to test it later today. Overall, if you can put up with it being a jet engine while gaming it’s great. The out of the box experience was lackluster due to the tweaking I had to do but I’d say I’m generally happy with it. It’s definitely the most aesthetic looking laptop imo and the overall build quality is amazing. If you have an appreciation for amazing looking screens on a laptop, I don’t think it gets any better than this as of now but I haven’t seen the Razer Blade 16 in person so I can’t compare it to that. Comparing it to my 34” Alienware QD oled monitor though, the text is beyond crisp and the ppi density is obvious. Also I didn’t mention it but the thermals are for the 13980HX, 4090 runs great at around 70-75c under load. No issues there.
what are you trying to do with your lighting? I will try and recreate with mine and see if I get the same issues. I have been setting static blue and static purple with no issues. White does look slightly off colour as I expected. I sometimes get the odd loss of control when switching between profiles, it has only happened a couple of times but when it does only rainbow and off profiles work
In Dave2d review of the abive laptop precisely mentioned how the watercooler inside is a gimmick, i was hoping you were going to enlighten something on that part
taped at the bottom of the box, underneath the instruction booklet is an origami type cup coaster? its called the Lenovo paper cup pad? Please I need to know what is this thing? The instructions are not great...is it a coaster? what is it?
@@MashITTech both either trying to change the colors themselves or the actual setting number itself the only one that sticks is the 1 setting with the rainbow effect
That’s a tough one but I think it comes down to which OS do you prefer? What software are you using and do you game? MacBook is better for video editing and has better battery life and performance on battery. P1 has better gaming ability and more software available on windows, upgradable ram and ssd plus a WAN option. I would take the p1 unless I only bought the machine for video editing
@MashITTech I have no problem with Mac OS. I will use a few VM, programming, and video editing. I am confused between this one and M3 Max 36GB 1TB variant ....
I will actually make a video on this very topic and I have to be honest I love both and couldn't pick a winner until I have put them side by side and really tested them out. Watch this space
I have the Legion 7i Pro 2023 RTX3080. Almost as good performance with a Time Spy score of 19000 on par with a 2022 RTX3090 desktop. 26000 plus on CB R23 test. Aside from the lacks of Windows Hello, it's a great laptop an, runs relatively cool, a top level 240hz IPS screen, and an excellent heyboard. This looks like a great laptop but very overpriced, no doubt it will get discounted over the next few months. It's quite a premium for the Mini LED screen and some marginal features. An excellent summary review and you're always totally transparent. This is fresh off the press, well done!
Thank you mate, I do try to be as unbiased as possible! I have the Legion 7 with almost exactly the same specs and will put them head to head but as you stated, the 7's performance is already excellent so I think it really comes down to if those premium features are worth the extra cost to the end user. I can imagine if someone is looking for a Gaming/Content creation laptop then its worth it for the screen and SD card etc, but if just for gaming the & is by far the best option
Only thoughts is the water cooler only kicks in at 84c imagine if it ran around 60c or all the time. I know it would induce wear and tear but dang that sucks.
I have heard it kicks in when the VRAM hits 84 which is more likely to happen than the GPU cores. I will try my best to find out for sure when I can really spend some time testing it
Looks amazing. With all this hardware would not have made more sense to have mini led 240 HZ refresh panel like the ASUS lineup? Altough even with this hardware very few games will be able to push above 160 FPS..
Would you say this is the one to get right now for gaming at 1440p? I have been holding a long time to get a gaming laptop. Primarily I would use it for COD Warzone, or are there better options for this price range of 4 to 5k ? Thank you, cheers!@@MashITTech
Why would you ever want to change the RAM unless it fails? The 4090 version of that laptop comes with 64GB which is overkill in a laptop to begin with. The 4080 version comes with 32GB which is plenty.
One thing I've noticed is that when some people say a keyboard is "crisp," what they mean is "heavy actuation force." It seems like a lot of reviewers love that, but I'm not a fan of keyboards with heavy actuation forces; the Lenovo Thinkpads, for example, are beloved among many people, but I've always found them a tiresome slog for my fingers. I don't need a workout when I type. For me, an Alienware CherryMX is on the outer range of what I can live with in terms of stiff keys. Do you know if this Legion 9 keyboard has a comparable actuation force to the current Lenovo Thinkpad keyboards? Because I don't think I'd like that very much, based on a recent X1 Nano I had.
Haha I know that feeling, before I did this as a business I could never afford the latest and greatest and always ended up buying a reduced last gen model
This is a good laptop, but keep in mind, if you spec out the highest config possible on Lenovo's site it only lets you spec out 32GB... that being said i spent 5 grand on this beast, i immediately tried to change out the RAM to 64GB, you have to take the ENTIRE computer apart, its on a invented motherboard, complete disaster just to upgrade memory. The LED's and carbon fiber are nice, but the screen absolutely is NOT 1000 nits, no way in hell, maybe 600 and other reviewers have noticed the same thing.
how are you getting 28422 on blade 16? I can't get anything near that! (pretty sure max custom cpu profile was just over 24k out of the box) Are you undervolting? if so I am getting over 30k on legion 9 with undervolt.
It's a good laptop but at that price point it actually make it some shit. I got my Asus ROG zephyrus duo 16 with a 4080 an and Ryzen 7945 cpu with 240 mini led one screen an 4k as a second screen. I paid 2300 but atleast it was for two screens an an basically a high end graphics card an med one. This thing for 3499 you might as well just buy a top of the line gaming PC lol it's you can get these same specs in other models for 1k price difference
@@MashITTech it has no place in a dedicated "gaming" laptop. It's only useful for productivity purposes. Most games don't support the aspect ratio so you end up with black bars and even those that do, end up sacrificing some horizontal information for it. And even if it worked as intended, most games don't have interesting vertical information. That's the whole point of having ultra wide setups. Because horizontal information is often more interesting in games. Even in media consumption, you end up with black bars on an already small screen. There's a good reason that 16:9 is the standard.
@@AkaiSuzume Your argument depends on what percentage of the Legion range abandons 16:9. Agreed they shouldn't give up on i16:9, but there is scope to appeal to gamers and power users in the Legion range.
I've been wanting to watch a full experience on the unboxing of Legion 9 without cuts and extra edits just pure unboxing feels. Thank you Mash IT for this unboxing! More power!
Glad you enjoyed it, I was in two minds if people wanted to see an unboxing as a lot of people just prefer a pure review so your comment helps me decide to keep unboxing new releases of products
The 4080 model shouldn't even exist at this price point imo. If you're spending that much anyways, just get the 4090.
I take 4080♥️
Literally, you're spending 3k, get the best GPU man
Was really looking forward for this review and you did not disappoint, thank you very much! Can't wait for the 7i comparison :)
Love your reviews! I hope to see reviews for more budget options like the tuf f15
yes, I do keep meaning to get some of the more budget friendly laptops in but I still have about 5 more laptops in my office in need of review 🤣
Finally got someone to review the legion 9 , i still want to see the water cooling though 😊
I really wanted to have a good look at it but it meant taking the whole laptop apart which I don’t want to risk until I have completed the review in case I screw it up 😂
@@MashITTech 😂😂😂 but really i liked the review and i was really waiting for it.
Hell yeah. I’ll be patiently waiting for the full review.
Informative and concise--great! Thanks.
I am quite interested in this laptop, with a 4090. The combination of excellent performance, display, slimness, and reasonable fan noise is appealing. I like the two Thunderbolt 40 ports too.
What an interesting looking laptop. The build quality seems top notch. Looking forward to the full review.
Build quality on legions has been good for some time now, but I have serious concerns about their manufacturing tolerances. My L5p for example had issue with the keyboard deck being raised at the centre, inconsistent backlighting and slightly crooked hinge fittings. They all worked and felt solid, but the little things matter. Apple is in the opposite camp, they have extremely tight tolerances but atrocious build quality on their laptops. This shouldn't be hard for Lenovo, their Thinkpad line has none of these issues. Honestly if they made legion laptops with the Thinkpad aesthetic I'd buy one tomorrow.
@@summushieremiasclarkson4700 Explain how apples laptops have atrocious build quality
@@morganvici6543 For instance, the hinges on macbooks are generally engineered to within 1in-lb of tolerance to the magnitude of torque required, so inevitably they fail after a few years. The space between components is generally insufficient, so the signals often cross and components short out. They had a design on the macbook pro a few years ago that blew hot air on the display assembly, causing the glue there to weaken,bulge and eventually the lid would come apart. Constant BGA failures, voltage spikes and so on point to insufficient QA. I can go on. Louis Rossmann covered this pretty well though.
I like keyboard layout and overall design. Not a fan of small palm rest and color tho. Really wanna see temperature, fan noise and power efficiency comparison with other machines with the same specs. I couldn't afford it anyway haha
well, I have the standard 7i here with the same specs and the Blade 16, so that will be coming
@@MashITTech Thank you.
Absolutely amazing! I am using L5i PRO 2022. Hope to buy this next!
Fantastic!....but now I'm wondering if I should've waited for this thing to come out before I got the M16! In fairness, the M16 has been a great laptop but this watercooling setup is really interesting. Especially without the external pump/rad. I eagerly await the temp benchmarks on this! I haven't seen any other tech cannels on YT who actually have their hands on one of these yet! Thanks!
how do you like the M16? I'm considering either the razer blade 16, m16, or now this.
This laptop sucks ass. That little loop is worse than a simple copper heatpipe (you can see both cpu and gpu at 80C), so the fact that it costs twice as much as a same specced 7i makes it a complete scam.
@@Chris-lg7rc I've enjoyed it. I have the 4090 config.
I love the aesthetic of the M16. The design is one of the reasons I bought it. And the CherryMX keyboard is a dream. I feel like the Alienware laptops are scrutinized because of the high CPU temps. But the excellent GPU temps appear to be overlooked. For example, in games my CPU will regularly hit 100C however the GPU hits a high of 73C. And while the CPU hits 100c, it's still pulling 75-90W in games and scores just as high as competitors in Cinebench or 3dMark tests. So it's interesting to see that the Lenovo allows the GPU to hit 84c and then kicks in the liquid cooling that *might* then bring the GPU to temps that the M16 already sustains through regular air cooling.
Other advantages of the M16 is cost. It was way cheaper than any of the competitors at the time I bought it which is also against the Alienware stereotype. And as of typing this, the M16 is already on sale for $700CDN less than even when I bought it a few months ago.
So for a unit that will perform well, look great, have fantastic build quality, and is cheaper than competitors while delivering similar performance I think the M16 is a good buy. But if you have extra money to spend, I can see why the Lenovo would be appealing with the Carbon Fiber exterior and Mini LED display (although I'd wait for Dave's full review of it before considering).
As for the Blade, I'm not sure it's competitive. Yes it's a bit thinner, but ultimately has a similar footprint to other 16" units and for the slightly thinner unit you're paying a huge cost premium and what looks like lower performance than other similar units due to thermal throttling (from the reviews I saw).
The m16 is still a solid machine plus a lot cheaper with more storage and easier to upgrade ram. That Legion MiniLED is gorgeous though....Buying a laptop is always a nightmare, as there is always something new to try and tempt you 🤣
@@MashITTech if you had to pick between the 3 without concern for budget which would you pick?
Was waiting for Mash to check this one out!
Another great video!!! Love this channel. Did you notice any blooming with the min-led display?
Thank you mate. There is blooming as with all mini led panels I have tested but I really don’t notice it unless I go looking for it
I’m Waiting for your ugradability path video on the legion 9i, if it can be upgradable up to 8tb of storage
Yeah, that will be soon. I am hoping I can squeeze 2x4tb sn850x in there as it looks like there will be room
This is sick!!
such a shame that there’s not enough ports
tbh its plenty of ports, just the price outside US sucks ass. but its lenovo so they will and hopefully give us deals
It would be nice to see the temperatures and FPS when a gaming monitor with Full HD resolution is connected to it. Sure that it has to be less hot and less noisy, the main question is how much.
I prefer the small palm rest because I do not rest my palms on my computer .
Is the water cooling system closed ??? With coolant already in the closed system ?? I don’t understand why there is not a external pump
Fantastic overview! Disappointed about the inverted MOBO and initial Cinebench scores... Remember not to "undervolt" using Vantage since it is actually up to a 50mV overvolt. You have to use Throttlestop (9.6) or the BIOS.
I only ever use TS! I love not only how good the UV options are but I also use the profiles. But thanks for the pointer, I didn't realise there was a bug in vantage :)
Also seems that he's on Performance Mode, seen here in 11:13, which isn't the highest profile. Custom Mode is there which boosts even higher
@@pranavdupati9164using pro 7i with similar hardware in custom mode with maxed fans, the fans are LOUD,
don't forget lenovo legion toolkit, community developed alternative to vantage, works much better
Yes love using it! Especially the Actions tab is so good. Vantage is garbage@@lsp6032
Lenovo has been getting more serious in the PC gaming business than HP in recent years.
When in Italy? Thanks.
you forget one thing there was something written in the inside of top cover of the laptop
Ooooh I didn’t notice, will take a look
@@MashITTechyes
Fantastic looking machine, too bad the company's North America North Carolina sales business unit laid off a lot of good workers in January and threw them out on the street causing them to lose their homes and apartments. Also the warranty and support from Lenovo is horrid even if you are within warranty period.
oh that's awful, I didn't hear about that 😢
I hate it bro trust me. However, that's part of the business. Payroll is the first thing a business can cut to reduce costs. They didn't have a great year in terms of sales.
As longest as you don't fuck the laptop everything is okay
@TheReturnOfJMVEntertainment About 5 counties below. 👀
@TheReturnOfJMVEntertainment barely. ROFL
Haven't seen this Legion 9. Very impressive device.
Loved the review!
Lenovo pushing their way to high end laptop gaming. I like that they are doing that but unless they do something different, people aren't going to prefer their laptops. Not that they are bad, it's just they are the "Honda" of laptops. They need an "Acura" now.
Please do a quick comparison between this and the 7i!
The price to perfomance on that 7i is so good
I have a Legion 7i with almost identical specs so do plan on doing this shortly
@@MashITTech it is so needed to have a true and honest comparison from You ! Cheers !
@@MashITTechLooking forward to this video so much
When it eill be released worldwide
great revieuw as always.. thank you.. This is one awesome laptop
thanks mate, it is expensive but its a real beast!
thinking about it but would have pefered it in 17.4 or 18 inch and in 4k..@@MashITTech
IMHO it looks much better than last Asus ROG
Legion 9i or m16 or x16 or m18?
that's tough but I would probably choose m18 just for that huge screen!
the only way to get this laptop is to give it to me as a gift😭
Beautiful and powerful laptop. I love it
So awesome laptop and so great look. Pls send this to me bcz i cant afford this one. God will bless you.
What about a Legion 9i vs Legion Pro 7i? :D
That's coming soon :)
My only question is, is the mini led worth it and is the current gpu can handle the 3200x2000 resolution? (will see more results in your full review in the coming weeks)
I think 32000x2000 on this legion 9i more reasonable than 4k in MSI GT77
So far I am really impressed with the mini led, almost oled quality and the 165hz is pretty smooth. I will run a few demanding games at 3000x2000 over the next few days and see how it holds up but bf2042 at high settings played well
Good video but I really wish you would’ve removed that inverted motherboard for this review. I really wanted to get a look at the ram slots and that coveted “water pump” gimmick
I really wanted to but was worried if I screwed anything up then I couldn't finish the video 😂
that's a crazy small trackpad
Unless you want the mini led screen, the Lenovo Legion Pro 7i Gen 8 is the way to go price wise. In uk you can’t customise the RAM and stuck with 64gb if you want the rtx4090. I’d also prefer AMD cpu over 13980hx but great colour display though..
Thermals and fan noise under load interests me a lot.
Will spend a lot of time on this for the full review soon
@@MashITTech Good to hear.
Happy with my RTX 4080 Pro 7i and the 9i looks great overall.
I guess I'd have liked to see three type C and A ports as I personally still use a fair bit of type A ports on my Pro 7i but that's me nitpicking.
Agreed on the lack of A ports, fortunately a lot of my peripherals are moving to C and my mouse and keyboard share the same USBA dongle
He said "enough of me waffling"🤣🤣🤣🤣
yeah sorry, I do go off script at time 😂
Did you have any issues with your RGB keyboard lights ? Apparently people are having issues setting colors or if set to a static color like white, some keys are suffering from a yellow tint which they’re saying is a hardware issue. Getting my 9i tomorrow, hoping this isn’t the case.
My lighting has been great but I must admit I don't use a white profile, I always find RGB lighting has a tinge on the white as its made from colours, they never use a RGBW chip.
hi ! how is your 9i ? happy with it ??
@@MD-ky2dt half and half so far. It performs great in terms of raw power but not without its drawbacks. It runs extremely hot and loud. I had undervolt it to get it down to acceptable thermals. Now I’m at about 75-80c while gaming max settings under load. Fan still ramps up and this is with a cooling pad as well. I could adjust the fan curve but I’m more concerned about thermals and I use headphones anyways.
As I mentioned above the rgb is pretty useless unless you want the constant rainbow. Hopefully a software fix is in the works.
The display however is amazing, super bright and crisp but there is noticeable dimming as in, if you put your cursor against a black background it’ll grey out. That’s just the nature of mini-led but it doesn’t bother me. People with the 9i have also reported ghosting but I havent noticed as of yet. Going to test it later today.
Overall, if you can put up with it being a jet engine while gaming it’s great. The out of the box experience was lackluster due to the tweaking I had to do but I’d say I’m generally happy with it. It’s definitely the most aesthetic looking laptop imo and the overall build quality is amazing.
If you have an appreciation for amazing looking screens on a laptop, I don’t think it gets any better than this as of now but I haven’t seen the Razer Blade 16 in person so I can’t compare it to that. Comparing it to my 34” Alienware QD oled monitor though, the text is beyond crisp and the ppi density is obvious.
Also I didn’t mention it but the thermals are for the 13980HX, 4090 runs great at around 70-75c under load. No issues there.
what are you trying to do with your lighting? I will try and recreate with mine and see if I get the same issues. I have been setting static blue and static purple with no issues. White does look slightly off colour as I expected. I sometimes get the odd loss of control when switching between profiles, it has only happened a couple of times but when it does only rainbow and off profiles work
In Dave2d review of the abive laptop precisely mentioned how the watercooler inside is a gimmick, i was hoping you were going to enlighten something on that part
With a laptop this nice and expensive i'd be too scared to take it outside the house
haha I know what you mean 🤣
I would have gone with lenovo if they had a 17 or 18 inch model. I don't like the move to only offering 16 inch laptops, i've had to go dell instead.
I must admit, I am surprised they aren't offering an 18 this year like most of the other companies! It is a real shame, I also love an 18"
taped at the bottom of the box, underneath the instruction booklet is an origami type cup coaster? its called the Lenovo paper cup pad? Please I need to know what is this thing? The instructions are not great...is it a coaster? what is it?
Presentation is everything to me that said yes I'm a fanboy @ Alienware😂😂😂
I waiting for the rtx 4090 (or ti) 200w+ gpu for this laptop! The cooling system is very impressive!
Is there something similar that's not the same as a car in cost?? Anything in between this and a normal-ish RTX 4080 laptop?
better than the msige77hx ?
Lovely video mate. How are you doing?
Thank you mate, I am really good but a bit frazzled as I have so many laptops to try and get through but I love doing it! How are you?
Quite a nice looking laptop.
What size can you upgrade the RAM and SSD to?
If you can, check the temperature on the back the legion 7i gets toasty without adjusting fan curves in performance
will do :)
Speed compared to the legion i7 Rtx 4080 ? Is it worth the price. ?
I am going to run a load of benchmarks, games and tests then compare them directly. I have the 7 with i9 and 4080 so very similar spec
No link to purchase
I just bought this laptop can you test you legion spectrum LED control. Mine keeps cutting out Random parts of the lower LED strip
when you say keeps cutting out, you mean sections turn off at random? or when you are changing the colour effects?
@@MashITTech both either trying to change the colors themselves or the actual setting number itself the only one that sticks is the 1 setting with the rainbow effect
Should I buy this or go with Macbook M3 Pro M3 Max? 🤔
That’s a tough one but I think it comes down to which OS do you prefer? What software are you using and do you game? MacBook is better for video editing and has better battery life and performance on battery. P1 has better gaming ability and more software available on windows, upgradable ram and ssd plus a WAN option. I would take the p1 unless I only bought the machine for video editing
@MashITTech I have no problem with Mac OS. I will use a few VM, programming, and video editing. I am confused between this one and M3 Max 36GB 1TB variant ....
@MashITTech Is Mac friendly with kali Linux for ethical hacking.
Which would you recommend between Razer Blade16 4090 and this Legion 9i 4090?
Your opinion would be REEEEAAALLY appreciated.
I will actually make a video on this very topic and I have to be honest I love both and couldn't pick a winner until I have put them side by side and really tested them out. Watch this space
I am...I look forward to it so much. Thank you SO MUCH!!!@@MashITTech
simple. razer for better speakers.
That looks awesome!
I have the Legion 7i Pro 2023 RTX3080. Almost as good performance with a Time Spy score of 19000 on par with a 2022 RTX3090 desktop. 26000 plus on CB R23 test. Aside from the lacks of Windows Hello, it's a great laptop an, runs relatively cool, a top level 240hz IPS screen, and an excellent heyboard. This looks like a great laptop but very overpriced, no doubt it will get discounted over the next few months. It's quite a premium for the Mini LED screen and some marginal features. An excellent summary review and you're always totally transparent. This is fresh off the press, well done!
Thank you mate, I do try to be as unbiased as possible! I have the Legion 7 with almost exactly the same specs and will put them head to head but as you stated, the 7's performance is already excellent so I think it really comes down to if those premium features are worth the extra cost to the end user. I can imagine if someone is looking for a Gaming/Content creation laptop then its worth it for the screen and SD card etc, but if just for gaming the & is by far the best option
Only thoughts is the water cooler only kicks in at 84c imagine if it ran around 60c or all the time. I know it would induce wear and tear but dang that sucks.
I have heard it kicks in when the VRAM hits 84 which is more likely to happen than the GPU cores. I will try my best to find out for sure when I can really spend some time testing it
pls compare it to the Alienware x16
I typically haven’t got an x16 in the studio at the moment 😢 I have a blade 16, I could compare with that?
Is legion 9 and 9i same?
yes they are
The legion 9 would have been great with an AMD option with the Ryzen 9 7945HX3D.
Looks amazing. With all this hardware would not have made more sense to have mini led 240 HZ refresh panel like the ASUS lineup? Altough even with this hardware very few games will be able to push above 160 FPS..
yeah, I am not sure the reasoning, but 165hz is still pretty fast and the response times also felt pretty snappy
Would you say this is the one to get right now for gaming at 1440p? I have been holding a long time to get a gaming laptop. Primarily I would use it for COD Warzone, or are there better options for this price range of 4 to 5k ? Thank you, cheers!@@MashITTech
Is it better than legion 7i pro(4080)???
It has a lot more premium features but I haven't compared the benchmarks yet. I plan to compare them both next week 👍
Good looking laptop
Hello，Can you record a game video of warzone ？This is very helpful for me，I will like all you videos！Thank you！Love you bro！❤
of course I can, I play a lot of war zone. Do you care what resolution and settings I use?
@@MashITTech Thank you very much,settings is very low,no dlss and high use dlss,Native resolution. Love you
Is it Louder than 7i pro?
I think it is slightly louder but I will be checking them side by side with a decibel meter for the comparison I am working on this week
Space for arms rest is not sufficient. Should be like in Slim 7
agreed!
Wish I could afford this
Hi. How can I get this laptop for free
I like this laptop
Why would you ever want to change the RAM unless it fails? The 4090 version of that laptop comes with 64GB which is overkill in a laptop to begin with. The 4080 version comes with 32GB which is plenty.
That’s a good point but I still hate not having the option! Plus I just bought a 96gb kit I wanted to test 😢
One thing I've noticed is that when some people say a keyboard is "crisp," what they mean is "heavy actuation force." It seems like a lot of reviewers love that, but I'm not a fan of keyboards with heavy actuation forces; the Lenovo Thinkpads, for example, are beloved among many people, but I've always found them a tiresome slog for my fingers. I don't need a workout when I type. For me, an Alienware CherryMX is on the outer range of what I can live with in terms of stiff keys. Do you know if this Legion 9 keyboard has a comparable actuation force to the current Lenovo Thinkpad keyboards? Because I don't think I'd like that very much, based on a recent X1 Nano I had.
You are right, it is totally the actuation force which I do prefer and yes it is like the thinkpads (just tested a p1 gen 6) and it’s very similar
Thanks so much!
Put that same tech in a thin and light 17" machine, maybe a few less bells and whistles so it isn't $4000 and I'd be all in
That laptop keyboard placement and squished trackpad is a deal breaker for me. not that it matters but it looks awful too IMO.
Agreed it does look a bit cramped but I guess it was the trade off to fit the water loop in
No displayport or mini displayport is disappointing.
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For now is so expensive. its track pad is so small !!!.Laptop screen has a one side hinge!!! There are just two usb A connector!!!
Alienware with Lenovo logo
Too bad, they couldn't get a 7950 hx/3d in there!
I would have to save money+sell my kidneys and a part of my liver and spleen to afford this.
Haha I know that feeling, before I did this as a business I could never afford the latest and greatest and always ended up buying a reduced last gen model
here it cost from 4999 to 5999€ for this machine. A littlebit expansive for playing videogames, even if you have the money
That is true, I bet they bring out some big discount codes/coupons soon though, that seems to be Lenovos way!
Hmm maybe in a year I'll have spare cash for this. :x
This is a good laptop, but keep in mind, if you spec out the highest config possible on Lenovo's site it only lets you spec out 32GB... that being said i spent 5 grand on this beast, i immediately tried to change out the RAM to 64GB, you have to take the ENTIRE computer apart, its on a invented motherboard, complete disaster just to upgrade memory. The LED's and carbon fiber are nice, but the screen absolutely is NOT 1000 nits, no way in hell, maybe 600 and other reviewers have noticed the same thing.
You could've atleast activated the windows.
haha after paying over £3.5k for this laptop I felt too tight to buy windows too 🤣
Trying to save the planet 😂😂😂
R23 looks very poor as for me. Much smaller Razer 16 has 28422 Points. Thank you
Scar 16 has something like 31000
how are you getting 28422 on blade 16? I can't get anything near that! (pretty sure max custom cpu profile was just over 24k out of the box) Are you undervolting? if so I am getting over 30k on legion 9 with undervolt.
Cool laptop but its a thousand dollars more than a similar equipped Asus Strix Scar 16
they probably inverted it cause who wants to upgrade a 64 gb ram laptop
not all models come with 64gb though, mine came with 32gb
@@MashITTech Is it tricky taking out the motherboard then?
its very fiddly 😥
4 minutes talking about the paper box...
Haha I didn’t take that long surely 😂
Temp lock cpu. 2,5ghz. 5k€ =}
Top of the line but „activate Windows“. 😅
Haha I am the kind of tightwad that saves the £90 windows license fee from Lenovo and then buys one cheap 🤣
80 temp on both CPU and GPU, with water cooling, no thanks....this thing will not last more then 3 months under load.
It's a good laptop but at that price point it actually make it some shit. I got my Asus ROG zephyrus duo 16 with a 4080 an and Ryzen 7945 cpu with 240 mini led one screen an 4k as a second screen. I paid 2300 but atleast it was for two screens an an basically a high end graphics card an med one. This thing for 3499 you might as well just buy a top of the line gaming PC lol it's you can get these same specs in other models for 1k price difference
Lost me at £4,000 !!!
I can't wait for this garbage 16:10 trend to die.
what don't you like about 16:10?
@@MashITTech it has no place in a dedicated "gaming" laptop. It's only useful for productivity purposes. Most games don't support the aspect ratio so you end up with black bars and even those that do, end up sacrificing some horizontal information for it. And even if it worked as intended, most games don't have interesting vertical information. That's the whole point of having ultra wide setups. Because horizontal information is often more interesting in games. Even in media consumption, you end up with black bars on an already small screen. There's a good reason that 16:9 is the standard.
Maybe it's not for you. Some of the machines are aimed at users who are into creator apps, productivity, and gaming. Each to their own.
@@fmulleady Legion is their dedicated gaming laptop series. Lenovo has other series that are aimed at those users.
@@AkaiSuzume Your argument depends on what percentage of the Legion range abandons 16:9. Agreed they shouldn't give up on i16:9, but there is scope to appeal to gamers and power users in the Legion range.
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please 🏳️.