Supercharging A GT's 4.6-Liter For An Extra 200 Horses- HorsePower S12, E13
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- Опубліковано 2 вер 2020
- The late-model Mustang GT makes decent horsepower, but decent isn't enough for the HorsePower guys. They take a GT's 4.6-liter engine, add a new short block, and a Roush supercharger with a goal of adding about 60% more horsepower!
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PARTS USED IN THIS EPISODE:
Enerpulse ,Inc.: Pulstar looks like a spark plug because it was designed to fit into the same hole in your engine. But, internally, Pulstar is very different, incorporating a pulse circuit no spark plug has.
Pattons Inc.: Nitrogen generator.
Roush Performance: This kit comes with a 2.3L TVS supercharger with black finish, upper and lower intake manifolds, an intercooler, a low temp radiator, a cold air intake system, a dual 60mm electronic throttle body, a unique fuel rail with 52 lb/hr fuel injectors. Also supplied with upgraded short block assembly.
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Love watching these old Power Nation build episodes, reminds me so much the time when the show was being aired on TNN and watching them on Saturday and Sunday mornings.
I've nursed many a hangovers on Sunday mornings watching this show.
Or stoned nights watching every video on the damn channel ha
They lost me after only two minutes. Their title was Supercharging a GT's 4.6-liter For An Extra 200 Horses, but then they took out the car's 4.6 to replace it with a Roush short block and supercharger.
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A roush is a GT lol.
@@fatdan172501 basically unrealistic cost wise for most of us and done on a stand outside the vehicle. Most of us were looking at seeing it done while in the car.
4.6 great engine. Put Lysholm super charger on it. Kenny Bell has the same twin screw blower package. Great blower! Most important is a good tune. By that I mean a real good "Tuner". Headers, cold air intake with bigger throttle body and headers, bigger fuel pump. Shelby exhaust! Enjoy!
@@avocado9763 Why did they go with a different block? Won't those superchargers finally tear up the factory engine?
"Supercharging a GT's 4.6 for an extra 200HP" :) ........however, we used a new Roush short block. :(
Yeah but unfortunately there isn’t much you can do with the stock engine :(
You can make another 200hp on the stock engine
@@mikionorton2236 theres tons you can do. Been running 500whp through a turbo on stock motor for 4 years now
Felt like this video is from 15 years ago
Because it pretty much is. He literally said "New 2007 mustang"
@@Theroyalrick Didn't catch that. Makes sense lol
It says Season 12 in the description genius
Glad you did a 4.6!
This episode seems like a sales add for why you should just buy a coyote. Wanna run down a newer mustang? Just buy this 7k supercharger kit and put a new 4k short block in it. You will also need a clutch. So long as you have a full shop, you will be running down stock coyotes in no time. Just doesn't seem with it to me.
@@ryanwalker3509 that was on a pretty low boost setting, that shortblock should be good to a thousand, and those injectors will make a lot more than 500 crank, at least 600, maybe even 800
@@ryanwalker3509 hahaha exactly what I was just thinking after buying the car and 12,000$ in parts you could have a low mileage coyote and make 500whp with bolt ons
@@fl_atv_riders4455 it's still cool if your hot on that body style. Hell I still like the c 5 corvette the best. However, its not exactly cost effective.
U can save the 7k on old 3 valves and the 7k in mods can get u a gen 1 coyote.
The second feature part was unexpectedly fantastic
Miss seeing this show on Saturday morning
Same here. I would get inspiration then proceed to flush out my turn signal fluid.
MACDADDY760 lmao and change my tire cold air pressure to hot air
Every time someone posts a 4.6 video coyotes snobs just have to make sure everyone knows how inferior they feel 4.6 engines are.
@you mad bro 97 i bet you have several videos of it doing just that right?
That Mustang looks so good.
It is impressive how the current mustang can make 700hp with just a bolt on supercharger with stock engine compared to the 4.6 days.
4.6 is a destroked 5.0 btw . thats why the DOHC 4.6 had 5.0 stroker kits
@@TheCheapReefer The 4.6 is not the same as the coyote.
Tha Silent One Uh, no. You obviously don’t know a lot about engines. At least ford engines.
They’ll make 700 hp alright and then a week later it starts ticking or knocking.
John Johnson except no
Great show
Joe Elmore is the only one left from the original back when this was on tnn on Saturday & Sunday morning
I wonder where chuck is nowadays
If I'm spending that kind of money on a short block its making 1000hp
Cleanest engine I have ever seen... even the one they pulled out.
Damn I threw a paxton on my stock 4.6. It's at 498 rwhp with 460 tq. Been running it for 5 years and never had a problem with the stock block. I wonder how much all this costs
Too much
How’s that working out for u ? I want to throw a Paxton on in the spring
I'm running a Paxton as well at 508rwhp. I've been on what they called "borrowed time" for 8 years now 140k miles haha
According to the guys at Brenspeed, you are right about where you should be, with stock internals. Rule of thumb, 450 RWT is about all you want to send. Horsepower is irrelevant, when it comes to breaking parts. It's the torque, off the line that breaks parts. Mostly connecting rods. Horsepower is developed at upper RPM, torque down low, when the most stress is created. Again, this is just Brenspeed's word.
@@totljag1 still going man, unfortunately squirrels got into the hood this winter and chewed my wiring harness and nibbled at my belt :/ so I'm currently dealing with that atm. But the engine is doing fine at 100,000 km.
Pretty cool that it's got a built in intercooler no pun intended.
Cool video for someone who wants to stick with the 4.6 block.
The numbers aren't bad, but the 18-19 5.0 with some boltons and an E85 tune are already making 500+ so the only person who'd do a build like this would be someone who really likes the 3vs.
thanks for advising a 15 year old show
There are many reasons people build cars, other than making THE most HP. Considering the 18-19 GT's start with 460HP, making 500+ isn't much more than a CAI, headers and a tune. I personally prefer the S197 look over the S550. Plus, doing all the work myself, gives me some sense of accomplishment. Buying a 500+ HP car only takes money. Doing the work yourself, takes skill, patience, and knowledge.
Stock exhaust manifolds?
its amazing how far engine tech has gone when back in 07 it takes a blower and supporting mods to make 450hp on the gt and today the stock NA gt can make 500 on just e85 and a tune
Back in the 60s you needed a big block to make 300hp. Technology is funny like that.
No shit ? Who sell the e 85 kit ?
My 01 GT put down 455/430 @14 lbs with a vortec v2 LT headers 01 Bullett intake air to water cooling stock internals
I love it. Reminds me of PBS car show. Takes me back to the 90s.
All that to get where a coyote starts. Just can't justify the cost of upgrading an old 4.6 anymore
My 4.6 Supercharged had 493 RWHP. Now it has GEN2 Coyoty and looking to boosted too
I would love to see a series on turning a 2011 mustang coupe V6 automatic daily driver into a daily driver you can take to a road course on the weekends. Ford advertises 305hp on this V6, so maybe some mild power upgrades, and suspension upgrades.
Having a 4 cyl or 6 cyl mustang is like going out with the most beautiful woman in the world but she is titless!
Check out johnharder by mustang takes on world
I spent 3500 and slapped a rebuilt saleen supercharger on my 08 GT and got the same power😂
are you in CA by chance? want to do the same just wondering about smog. the roush KIT is carb legal
Nice idea what about the rods that like to bend on a stock engine
Stock rods are perfectly capable of handling more horsepower than that. It's the torque that you need to keep in check. Any torque over 450 at the wheels, is bad for the stock rods. Everything else in the stock internals should be fine.
7:10 ouch
Whoop it up!!! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👍🏼👍🏼
not a bad way to spend $12-$13000 lol
New short block and supercharger for only 500hp!? What a rip.
8.5 to 1 compression ratio... should've had 10.5 to 1 with the low boost they were running
agreed not sure why they lowered the compression for 12psi. just get some headstuds and up the compression to make even more power
Growing up is realizing this was just a Roush commercial.
Big money !!!!!!!
500hp with a supercharger. There's naturally aspirated coyotes making that lol. How technology has changed over the years
Stock block 302w used to split in half at "500hp". Today I'm making over 700 at the wheels conservatively and know of some close to 1000hp. Today's tuning capabilities are amazing.
That kit was good fr waaay more they just didn't run the boost up
They were very conservative with this one. With that power they definitely didn't need a built motor, but they can easily turn it up since it is built. Beef up the intercooler system, basic bolt ons (intake, throttle body, pulley) and a tune they could easily be making 600whp
@@JuryRigGarage yeah all they needed for that power was a good ring gapping. That built shortblock was probably good for 650-700 if it had a stock type crank, If it's a forged crank in there then it's probably good to more like 800-1k
Could have gotten that with nos for 5 grant less and by the way 450 is way lower than 500 ,,too much for so little
I have the same set up just not rods and Pistons and I'm pushing 600 hp
Dang, I dynoed my stock 2018 10 speed at 423whp. Technology really has changed in a decade.
It's crazy what can be done now days.
I wished I had 20 grands for such a nice upgrade.
I'm sure thes parts ain't that much now since everyone doing the coyote swaps going with better and efficient superchargers.. but still like to update my ole 4.6 2v for a daily driver
They said Puttin a supercharger on they proceeded to change the whole engine would probably cost thousands for that 2 hundred by horse
can someone tell me if this is the same 4.6 that would be in a 99 mercury grand marquis?
"Weekend project supercharger install!" 😅
It is. You can absolutely install that supercharger in a weekend. No one said you HAD to swap out the block...
My 97 ranger has a Roush sticker on the tailgate, could it have came from Roush or could it be a car lot sticker..? Have had the truck 10 yrs...
Cuando no tienen en que gastar el dinero homy!
Here take your whole car apart lmao you took the car off the motor and then took the motor off the motor
Ah I wish y'all would have installed a set of long tubes while y'all had the motor out
Somebody else gets that headache 😂
@@cowboys779 actually it's really not to bad to do headers on these cars as long as u have patience and a lift
500hp waoooo good
That one older guy always sounds like he's in the middle of a mild stroke... Or a fifth of 100 proof!😂😂
Also: "This week on Power Nation, we tear apart a whole car/engine to bolt on a supercharger, then make less power than a stock NA Coyote! Stick around!"
He sounds like He's comfortable sitting at the Bar with Norm and Cliff in Cheers.
@@BIGGDADDYWIGGS 😂😂👏
This stuff was from before the 5.0 even existed.
Not to mention that these are wheel numbers and not crank.
... you sure you havent bad a fifth of 100 proof?
@@justsomegarage Nope, gave up drinking. I am aware this was before the 5.0 was RELEASED, but it was already in development at the time... I was exaggerating to illustrate the point of doing too much for the gains. Are you sure you understand satire? Should I edit the joke to say "then make about the same power as the next generation NA engine will reputedly make!"? Would that make you feel better?
@@supramaniac502 ten 1st gen 5.0 was 411 hp at the crank bolt ons will yield that on the 4.6 the engines are not that much off in power realy
How much for the old engine
I was looking at it, but that animation of the supercharger is running backwards.
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Easily about a 15k build if you have that done at a shop. 5k for supercharger. 3k for shortblock. At least 30 hours in labor. Tuning.... I just don’t think 450 horse to the wheels is worth that
Just add more boost.
This is an old video. They referred the mustang as a "new" car and about 2006/7 when Roush Mustangs started to be more common. Back then, you'd be lucky to get that kind of power without a built block. Nowadays? You can get yourself nearly 800whp on a stock block.
thanks for advising a 15 year old show
yep,anything at a shop is $100+ per hour.a cam swap for a pushrod v8 is 10+ hours or $1000 plus parts.
a cam swap for a coyote is 5 grand at a shop,what was your point again?
@@rotor13 the 4.6 aluminum block is good for 1200+hp with a good steel crank rods and pistons!
While you had it out I would of added long tube headers
the fuel pump being the most replayed part is for every 6 cylinder owner who wont pay a shop for easy task
A 4.6 +200 hp will get you into the 13s. Pretty cool.
High 12s with headers cams and a tune all engine
it will get you in the mid 12's on street tires. I have a video I uploaded of me doing as much. Drag radials, and a decent driveshaft (the stock two-piece units are junk) will net you mid to high 11's.
the stock 4.6 gt manual trans ran low 13s stock that blower car will run mid to low 11s
They should’ve had the head CNC ported and upgraded the cams while they had everything apart.
thanks for advising a 15 year old show
At 8:26, you can see the belt and the pulleys are not moving, while the engine was started and running. What's this , magic?
Ya they're not really going to crank and then immediately rev a fresh block. This is edited for entertainment first, information second.
Now only if you can actually buy that super for that engine. You won’t find them anywhere
8:40 what is that power curve lol
Looked all over the place
Is that a 3vales or 4 ??
So when building a ls you can low buck n/a it but all the Ford builds need power adders?
not so bro ,stop the bs you sound stupid!
Great numbers, but that’s a lot of work! My 04 cobra makes more with a pulley and exhaust😅
Poor Handling. But I like it.
Can't imagine putting $20k into a 3v setup to not even make 500whp
"New stock 2007 Mustang GT." Lol
Hey it was aired 15 years ago lol.
Is that from family feud?
Why is that engine so clean?😂
This was filmed in 08'
How can you say hay day of horse power when most stock cars couldnt make over 500 lol still love em though
Went the the website to check out pulstar spark plugs and low a behold can’t find them anywhere even when you search it on the site in the search bar. 🤦♂️
China turbo kit off eBay for like $600 makes more power
Hey powernation your probably not going to respond but I have a question, I’m new to the car world I just got my first car and it has a 1975 Chevy 350 making about 140hp, and want to make about 150 hp to hit that 300 mark, with out blowing my engine and not spend to much, what is your recommendation? Thank you
Also I really don’t want to do a motor swap because even though it’s a 1975 it has low miles and I don’t think it’s worth Changing something that’s not needed
thanks for advising a 15 year old show
Port the heads and have heads redone with bigger valves to start...
Did he say that this car could hang with the Z06? What is he smoking? I want some of that
I'm scratching my head trying to figure out just wtf that dude is supposed to be...
Add a turbo to project stroker stang
You'll have to go back to 2007 and tell them that...
Why not use the old short block with an iron headgasket lowering compression? Seems a lot of money wasted as the supercharger is already expensive enough and the standard block can handle some boost.
its a forged bottom end for durability and future up grad in power.
Roush infomercial.
is the engine have a single overhead cam or duel overhead cam, does anyone know ?
Google knows
single with vct!
Question...
Does the super charger need to be removed when replacing spark plugs ?
Most likely judging by placement, hence why you should just go turbo instead
@@Prestiged_peck booooo turbo has its pitfalls too
@@mikestoms4015 honestly idc which you go with, turbo has reliability issues, supercharger has servicing issues, and centrifugal just doesn't make a good daily unless you're looking for a stockish feeling car on the daily drive.
its a question you will never need an answer for
No, the supercharger does not need to be removed when changing spark plugs
Do a v10 eco boost
Stock driveshaft no long tube headers
Why does EVERY animation for a supercharger spin the damn thing backwards? You’re forcing air IN, not drawing it out.
Not necessarily, roots styles spin towards each other, twin screws spin away from each other.
admiral_peck 7 other way around.
@@jakematthews6982 same difference though, they rotate both ways. I was always taught roots compresses in the manifold and runs the air along the case, and twin screw compresses in the screw, and runs the air between them.
admiral_peck 7 I was talking about the animated representations of the different kinds of superchargers. In the regular intro the twin screw supercharger turns the wrong way. The animation used in this episode was also going the wrong way. Each of them turn different directions but the animations are going backwards most of the time. When the animation goes backwards it’s a misrepresentation and doesn’t serve anyone. If they were spinning in reverse in reality they would be trying to draw air out of the engine rather than force it into it.
That’s all I was saying.
@@jakematthews6982 interesting
If you're going to replace the shortblock, you might as well coyote swap it. Then it could make 700+ horsepower with a blower.
Or 420-460 HP naturally aspirated...
the graph shows a terrible tune = hope you re mapped the mustang before going any further ?
How much did this all cost. I’m betting more than the car is worth.
All ready to lose control and smash into the gutter
SUBTITEL INDONESIA pliss
They literally could have made way more horse power with that base block instead of buying that long block
No need to drop the compression that much or at all on that engine. But this was 13 years ago lol
Probably trying to get it to hold with 91 octane with no boosters
Before e85 was mainstream and the great tuning we have now. Could go another 200hp with that blower if it were ported properly.
@@paintballpartutd they still had the option of race gas for a power tune
Low compression sucks for something thats daily driven. With e85 these new gen3 coyotes run around with 12.0-1 compression and tvs blowers and hit hard. Only thing that helps this is the roushcharger making up the low end if it were turbo or centri it would be lazy out of boost without a gear change.
thanks for advising a 15 year old show
I guess beating on an untuned car is always good
"added a supercharger for 200hp" is pretty misleading since you also did an engine swap...
Am I the only one who noticed that this mustang was already a ROUSH mustang before they started? Like, it seems all they REALLY did was add an intake, fuel system, throttle body, and intercooler... Why else would the old engine have already had the intake removed when we first get to see it if it wasn't because they remove the intake and ROUSHcharger ahead of time? OR maybe I'm crazy IDK...
Roush has staged packages. It likely started as a Stage 1 sold at a Ford Dealer.
Please do a 2004 mazda rx8
its horsepower tv,its 15 years old and they don't do foreign crap
Run with a c5z06 maybe
thanks for advising a 15 year old show
That seems like a whole lot of work and parts for 450 at the wheels ....... what’s the price of the parts used .....
thanks for advising a 15 year old show
This basically costed as much as buying a new mustang
449 horsepower im not impressed.
I need at 650 horsepower.
no headers
Wish normal people could afford it. Did they see the build tally? You could just about swap a coyote.
You could just buy a mustang with a coyote in in.
The Coyote engine hadn't been released yet, this was filmed in 2008.
@@ryanwalker3509 my point exactly.
@@poot111111 it is now.
What's a normal persons budget?
Wow! Amazing click bait!
Why waste money on a 3v SMFH rather have a pushrod 351 or 302 and stroke it over 4.6 2v or 3v . 4v is the only 4.6 worthy