Thank you for sharing this knowledge! These videos are a huge help to me as I restore my '86 Hobie 16 to sailing condition and re-learn how to sail after a 20+ year hiatus. I'll share some rig pics soon.
Hey Joe. Some photos of how the H16 trapeze wires are attached at the face of the mast would be helpful. Most people don't know what the extra hole is for on the tang, and I see shackles installed incorrectly at the top of the mast holding the trap wires. Have helped many sailors fix this potentially dangerous problem of only threading the pin through the hole in the mast.
Hobie also sells two solid bare metal trapeze "dogbones" if you don't want to buy the more expensive J&H handles. I prefer the J&H since the bare metal ones could possibly knock one of your teeth out or break your sunglasses when you are not on the wire.
Thank you very much, as always extremely on the point and helpful. By the way, Your videos of doing wild stuff with the Hobie 16 made me by one.... And also I just made my first rides with it... Feels, as if it is the right thing for me to play with.... Waiting now for a little tougher winds and my first trapezing... Made some tests, how to get out and I thought, the lines are maybe a little too long. It needs quite a big effort to get back in the trampoline.😊😊😊😊
Thanks for the vid, got a question for you. Right now i have both trapeze shock cords routed through each of the two kringles in the trampoline, then both extending forward around the dolphin striker just as you have done with the crews shock cord. Is this disadvantageous? Why have the crews trapeze routed through the forward kringle and then around the dolphin striker, but not the skippers? I have both done like this atm.
Just got a hobie wave. It came with some trapeze wires and handles. Might try it out once I figure out how to actually sail this thing. What would you say the weight limit is on them? I'm 260. Would that be too much on the mast?
Why do you still need the dogbone arrangement when you use the adjustable set up? can't you simply attach the end of double block to the J&H? I am considering a trapeze set up for my trimaran 🙂
@@JoyriderTV I am subscribed to your channel (notifications on I guess) but I never see when you post sth new? where do I find the Q&A you are talking about? .... or are you still racing through the Swedish granite rocks?
Hi Joe, do you have a video on battens? I think this is the only subject I am missing out of the Hobie 16 subject. Also, my jib is trembling and making noises like a helicopter. If I remove the upper batten it's much better.
Here's a video on battens - ua-cam.com/video/5y9XKwcmtoQ/v-deo.html If the jib is making a lot of noise it is probably in need of a repair, probably a lot of wear to the leech.
I was about to ask for a video about this. Just picked up a used 16 and the trapeze shock cord is the only thing missing. Thanks! 11:45 Also, did the mast just eat that woman?
The length that we have between the wire and elastic is 40cm, more like 60cm when you take into account the dogbone and the knots - there will be a short video later today.
This guy has no idea what he's doing ....its kinda funny
Yeah for sure! It's like he's making it up!!
Thank you for sharing this knowledge! These videos are a huge help to me as I restore my '86 Hobie 16 to sailing condition and re-learn how to sail after a 20+ year hiatus. I'll share some rig pics soon.
Great! Looking forward to it.
Always love watching your videos. Just starting out and you have been a tremendous source of information. One day, I’ll share my cat!!
I look forward to it!
Did you get one?
Thanks for this and every video! Im restoring a hobie 16 and it would have been a lot more difficult without your great videos.
Good luck with the restoration - if you have pictures of the process it would be great to see them in Show us your Cat.
My understanding of the naming of these j and h handles is that they are named after Hobie's two sons, Jeff Alter and Hobie Jr.
That sounds like a better reason than mine!
Hey Joe. Some photos of how the H16 trapeze wires are attached at the face of the mast would be helpful. Most people don't know what the extra hole is for on the tang, and I see shackles installed incorrectly at the top of the mast holding the trap wires. Have helped many sailors fix this potentially dangerous problem of only threading the pin through the hole in the mast.
Yeah, it's not obvious. I linked the rigging the mast video at the end which goes through the attachment at the top.
Thanks so much, I’ve been sailing a long time and I still learn stuff from you!
Great to hear!
Thank you! Just picked up a hobie 17 and its a lot to figure out.
Good luck with it!
Planning to start trapezing in the summer, thanks for the video!!
You bet!
Hobie also sells two solid bare metal trapeze "dogbones" if you don't want to buy the more expensive J&H handles. I prefer the J&H since the bare metal ones could possibly knock one of your teeth out or break your sunglasses when you are not on the wire.
Ha, yes, one serious downside of the traditional trapeze ring!
Got my Joyrider Blue Shirt with Yellow print today. Nice soft shirt that looks Good!
Awesome! Thank you!
Thank you very much, as always extremely on the point and helpful. By the way, Your videos of doing wild stuff with the Hobie 16 made me by one.... And also I just made my first rides with it... Feels, as if it is the right thing for me to play with.... Waiting now for a little tougher winds and my first trapezing... Made some tests, how to get out and I thought, the lines are maybe a little too long. It needs quite a big effort to get back in the trampoline.😊😊😊😊
I'm very glad that the videos have been helping!!
With lines being too long, i'd shorten them a little and then test again..... and repeat
Thanks for educated us,
You're welcome!
I don't think Cecile B. DeMille published this many movies (videos). But, it's sailing so keep it up.
Thanks! More coming.
Hey Joe! Where do you get your dogbone rope stoppers? I cannot find any on the internet!
If you're in the USA or Canada this is the place:
www.murrays.com/product/01-0120/
@@JoyriderTV Thank you so much!
The ol' John Henry handle
You know it.
Thanks for the vid, got a question for you.
Right now i have both trapeze shock cords routed through each of the two kringles in the trampoline, then both extending forward around the dolphin striker just as you have done with the crews shock cord. Is this disadvantageous? Why have the crews trapeze routed through the forward kringle and then around the dolphin striker, but not the skippers? I have both done like this atm.
I keep the skipper's loose under the side bar so that it can be moved out of the way, making more space for inexperienced crews to get out.
Just got a hobie wave. It came with some trapeze wires and handles. Might try it out once I figure out how to actually sail this thing. What would you say the weight limit is on them? I'm 260. Would that be too much on the mast?
I think if you're not trapezing you can load it up as much as you like.
I wouldn't put more than 260 on the trapeze at a time.
Why do you still need the dogbone arrangement when you use the adjustable set up?
can't you simply attach the end of double block to the J&H?
I am considering a trapeze set up for my trimaran 🙂
I think i'll talk about that in this week's Q+A
@@JoyriderTV I am subscribed to your channel (notifications on I guess) but I never see when you post sth new? where do I find the Q&A you are talking about?
.... or are you still racing through the Swedish granite rocks?
@@SamuelLanghorn If you head to the joyrider tv channel page on youtube and click the live tab there you'll see all of the Q+A.
@@JoyriderTV perfect, thanks I will check it out.
@@JoyriderTV ok, great thank you I found it.
Hey, I kinda miss the gear you wear to use the trapeze system in this video. The whole setup. Not everyone has seen it, me included
Here is a look at the harness:
ua-cam.com/video/PXCTpDtdEdI/v-deo.html
@@JoyriderTV perfect. thank you
Hi Joe, do you have a video on battens? I think this is the only subject I am missing out of the Hobie 16 subject. Also, my jib is trembling and making noises like a helicopter. If I remove the upper batten it's much better.
Here's a video on battens - ua-cam.com/video/5y9XKwcmtoQ/v-deo.html
If the jib is making a lot of noise it is probably in need of a repair, probably a lot of wear to the leech.
Can I use or adapt a kitesurf harness to use in the hobie?
A seat harness is good to use but not a waist harness as that will put too much pressure on your back.
I was about to ask for a video about this. Just picked up a used 16 and the trapeze shock cord is the only thing missing. Thanks!
11:45 Also, did the mast just eat that woman?
Ha! I'm glad that someone spotted that - the magic of video!
A+ video!
Thanks very much!
Hi Joe, Are J & H handles hugely better than the standard metal affairs? At the equivalent of £45 here in NZ, they aren’t cheap.
They come as standard with Hobie, I like them because they give you more to get hold of. They're not any better than traditional trapeze rings.
How long does the 5/6mm adjuster rope have to be? Thanks for the help!
The length that we have between the wire and elastic is 40cm, more like 60cm when you take into account the dogbone and the knots - there will be a short video later today.
@@JoyriderTV Thanks!