The best iOS Electric Pianos

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  • @GospelMusicians
    @GospelMusicians Рік тому +9

    That playing sounds really good at 26:00. Thanks so much for the support and shot-out!

    • @FaustoFerreira
      @FaustoFerreira  Рік тому +1

      Thanks! And... Wow, coming from you guys that really means a lot to me!!!!

  • @PeterJensen7
    @PeterJensen7 2 місяці тому +4

    Some of the best and most useful gear reviews in all of music making, not just UA-cam. Exemplary. Very, very well done.

    • @FaustoFerreira
      @FaustoFerreira  2 місяці тому +2

      @@PeterJensen7 That's a very, very bold statement, Thank you! I will continue doing my best.

  • @kamranhamidfar1725
    @kamranhamidfar1725 7 місяців тому +3

    When I play the piano at a coffeehouse to sound like you, I move my mouth like you in the hope that the piano sounds like yours. But it wont work. You are amazing. Thanks for your uploads

    • @FaustoFerreira
      @FaustoFerreira  7 місяців тому

      😂😂😂Thank you very much! 😉

  • @dennisl501
    @dennisl501 2 місяці тому +2

    So much substance, so clearly explained, so helpful, so well made! Thank you very much for the upload.

  • @skinnyTheCat
    @skinnyTheCat 6 місяців тому +2

    Your Improv around 30 min is beautiful!
    Thanks for great video on the different softwares!

    • @FaustoFerreira
      @FaustoFerreira  6 місяців тому

      Thanks! Stay tuned, its time for some updates

  • @simbaking6338
    @simbaking6338 Місяць тому +1

    Pianoteq Rhodes sounds really warm...& u havent gone in its endless tweakability it has as yet....BeatHawk Wurly sounds awesome as well.

  • @paulcooper5880
    @paulcooper5880 Рік тому +3

    Really enjoying your channel, maybe some playing tutorials in the future giving us your secrets 😀

    • @FaustoFerreira
      @FaustoFerreira  Рік тому +1

      Thank you Paul! Maybe one day, but for now, I will explore more this reviews line, and continuing with my private lessons.

  • @madswellejus
    @madswellejus 10 місяців тому +2

    Thank you for sharing. Great work

  • @kjshalfjkhd
    @kjshalfjkhd Рік тому +3

    Ansioso para o próximo. Ficamos muito mais seguros para investir nos apps com suas análises. Parabéns!

    • @FaustoFerreira
      @FaustoFerreira  Рік тому

      Obrigado! Fico mais seguro para continuar com o seu comentário!

  • @jfn467
    @jfn467 3 місяці тому +1

    Thanks for the review walkthrough, excellent!! 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

  • @brandoncrenshaw
    @brandoncrenshaw Рік тому +3

    I love vtines! I just wish they gave you the full 88 note range.
    Also, you should try the Upright in Numa Player & Pure Synth Platinum. Probably the best pianos they have.

    • @FaustoFerreira
      @FaustoFerreira  Рік тому +3

      Agree about VTines! Iknow Numa Player and Pure Synth Platinum Uprights, have them and tryed them. They are character pianos, probably good for specific situations, but very limited in the dynamic range, considering distracting or badly implemented velocity transitions, filtering, release samples, inhability to go from pianissimo to fortissimo in a smooth way, or inhability to get a fortissimo dynamics. As a producer resource they might be usefull, but as a pianist instrument, they are out of my list.

  • @no_sl303p
    @no_sl303p 6 місяців тому +2

    I've been a big fan of Neo Souls Keys 2 for a long time but Pianoteq really knocked my socks off when I first played it.

    • @FaustoFerreira
      @FaustoFerreira  6 місяців тому +1

      Welcome to the club!

    • @jfn467
      @jfn467 3 місяці тому +2

      @@FaustoFerreira Pianoteq is out of this world, my reaction was the same as yours, the playability, I feel like it's "connecting" with me while playing, never experienced that with a non acoustic piano ever before...

    • @FaustoFerreira
      @FaustoFerreira  3 місяці тому +1

      Glad to hear that I'm not the only one feeling that. And the funny thing is that it just makes any controller feel much better.

  • @jfn467
    @jfn467 3 місяці тому +2

    You need to try the 70's Earthy EPs and the Scarbee libs in KORG Module, there's a couple of really good Variations in those...

    • @FaustoFerreira
      @FaustoFerreira  3 місяці тому

      You need to watch the complete video. I did try and used them ! They are featured in this video. And yes, they are very good.

    • @jfn467
      @jfn467 3 місяці тому

      @@FaustoFerreira I watched, though I missed that it was those libs you tried... I use those two libs and have created a cpl of different style Rhodes with variations from those.

  • @jamietopolski4019
    @jamietopolski4019 4 місяці тому +2

    AudioThing just released "Wurly" so it is time for another great comparison video.

    • @FaustoFerreira
      @FaustoFerreira  4 місяці тому +1

      Thanks. Wurly is really needed. I'll check it out

  • @BrianKabalaMusic
    @BrianKabalaMusic Рік тому +3

    Great video! I used iOS for live performance as well before I got my Nord a few months ago. There are some things I miss about my iOS setup that the Nord can’t match. Now I just use iOS as an aux synth. Vtines definitely was my favorite, although the low end would bark at low velocities so I created a split with neo soul keys and it worked great. I hope acoustic samples makes more iOS apps someday. The one sound that I could never find a satisfactory app for was Wurlitzer. The best I could do was tweaking neo soul keys samples a ton, which was pretty good but not realistic enough. What’s your favorite Wurlitzer app?

    • @FaustoFerreira
      @FaustoFerreira  Рік тому

      Thank you! I had the same path, of course the Nord works very well, but if you take the time ( and money ) you can built iOS setup that can be even more powerfull and better sounding. About the Wurlitzer, the Nord is very good, but did you check the BeatHawk wurlitzer? ( 20:00 on the video ).

    • @BrianKabalaMusic
      @BrianKabalaMusic Рік тому +1

      @@FaustoFerreira yes I did see the beat hawk Wurlitzer and tried it for myself, but it doesn’t have the exact tone I’m looking for. My favorite is the Keyscape Wurlitzer. I think if acousticsamples makes VReeds on iOS that would be the best by far.

    • @FaustoFerreira
      @FaustoFerreira  Рік тому

      Yes, Reeds are usually baddly represented, in iOS even worst. That's why I highlighted the one in Beathawk. Very specific but realistic. Try it with an amp simulator, and some external effects, through AUM, Audiobus, Camelot or a daw like Cubase or Logic Pro. Or try the Pianoteq 8 iOS. Playability is great as allways, but they have to work better in the moddeling.

    • @jamietopolski4019
      @jamietopolski4019 Рік тому

      Did you try the Wurley EP in Korg Module Pro?

    • @BrianKabalaMusic
      @BrianKabalaMusic Рік тому

      @@jamietopolski4019 Yes, I am really not a fan of the base Korg Module, and I did try the Wurlitzer expansion. It just felt artificial to me. It’s probably accurate to a specific model of Wurli but I am looking for more of a Donny Hathaway tone rather than Supertramp.

  • @deaddaedalus
    @deaddaedalus 2 місяці тому

    Have you played with Wurly by Audiothing? I'm curious how that stacks up against the others.

  • @peterdahl-bredine7315
    @peterdahl-bredine7315 Рік тому +1

    thanks!!…a really great look at these instruments. would love to see something like this for wurlitzer pianos (the beathawk one was nice!)

  • @SLHkeyboards
    @SLHkeyboards 8 місяців тому +2

    I think the Rhodes sounds in Pure Synth Platinum ("Suitcase Expansion") are a scaled down subset of what's in Neo Soul Keys Studio 2, yes?

    • @FaustoFerreira
      @FaustoFerreira  8 місяців тому

      Not sure. If it is, it still works pretty well!

    • @BlackAndWhiteBand
      @BlackAndWhiteBand 7 місяців тому +1

      @@FaustoFerreira Please forgive my ignorance, but what is that unit on your desk to the immediate left of your iPad, and what does it do?

    • @FaustoFerreira
      @FaustoFerreira  7 місяців тому

      @BlackAndWhiteBand Universal Audio Volt 476. A simple but high quality audio interface, used here as a pre-amp for the microfone that's capturing my voice. Check this to learn more :
      ua-cam.com/video/61Lvi0y04bI/v-deo.htmlsi=Z9xNjDAnvUt7VUEE

    • @BlackAndWhiteBand
      @BlackAndWhiteBand 7 місяців тому +1

      @@FaustoFerreira I've been using an old iPad Pro 10" with an Apple USB Camera dongle to connect up to my controller. However I'll soon be upgrading to the Ipad Pro M2. Can you recommend a clean way to connect it to the controller and monitors utilizing USB-C instead of lightning ports?

    • @FaustoFerreira
      @FaustoFerreira  7 місяців тому

      @BlackAndWhiteBand M2 Pro uses USB C,
      so you can use your regular Hubs, USB extenders, audio devices, controllers, etc... Just create your own setup that works for you. I use a powered Usb Hub that connects everything and powers the iPad at the same time. I use a good USB C extender, so I have everything connected under the desk, when I arrive to the studio with the iPad, I just connect one single cable to the iPad and voila! everything is connected!

  • @araktununvesga
    @araktununvesga 5 місяців тому +1

    Fala, Fausto! Obrigado pelo vídeo. Não testou o Garage Band?

    • @FaustoFerreira
      @FaustoFerreira  5 місяців тому +2

      Testei. Quanto aos timbres, incluindo EP, não estão ao nivel dos instrumentos aqui analisados, do ponto de vista da performance e realismo, pelo que nem os considerei.

    • @araktununvesga
      @araktununvesga 5 місяців тому +1

      @@FaustoFerreira muito obrigado pelo retorno, tu é o cara!

  • @stevezeno
    @stevezeno День тому +1

    You should consider changing the title of this video. That way it’ll be easier for people to know what the video is about when they’re searching on UA-cam

    • @FaustoFerreira
      @FaustoFerreira  День тому

      Got it! Thank you for pointing out this mistake. Solved!

  • @voytecgrobor7576
    @voytecgrobor7576 Рік тому +1

    Greetings. Great shoot out! About Pianoteq it is true, it is out of competition (I have the standard version). On the other hand, I do not cross out Colossus so much. MK1 reminds me of my old Mk2 when it comes to hand-dynamic ratio. The MK2, on the other hand, is a mistake in the layer of greatest velocity. The sound is like that when the tine touches the pick-up. Badly adjusted instrument! Similarly, GSI - a tone with a defect. I am also puzzled by the relase in Korg. It seems that iOS apps are an add-on product. Tines are an interesting choice for layering.
    Thanks, great work!

    • @FaustoFerreira
      @FaustoFerreira  Рік тому +2

      Thank you for joining, your input is precious! Agree with you with everything. Played with severall Rhodes in my life, but never had one myself. They are all so different from each other, that's why I think it is a good idea to have a wide variety of emulations available. However, "baddly adjusted instruments" are tolerable to a certain degree, depending on how bad it is. I know I'm a release freak, but take the example of Nord keyboards: among other things, they where the first to offer proper and well balanced release simulations, for acoustic and electromechanical on hardware instruments, it plays a bigger role on sound perception than most people realize. Wrong positioning of samples according to velocity is also something that kills the relism on an instrument: take the example of original korg Module EP, MF samples on P velocity and a sudden jump to the "barking velocity" are not acceptable anymore. On Colossus, it seems that you have a combination of all the bad things possible on some intruments. I agree, and I state this on the video, MK1 is still usable in certain contexts, the plain samples are good, but all the other electromechanical have so bad problems, they are not even worth considering.

  • @filotest3093
    @filotest3093 Рік тому +1

    Great review, thank you!

  • @amitev
    @amitev Рік тому +1

    Dear Fausto, thanks for sharing this precious review! You literally opened my eyes to the world of VSTs (so far I was playing only with the built-in sounds of my digital piano). I would like to gain more knowledge on how to use the tools. On 3:41 you show an app that you use to switch (open) between the VST apps (or are they called plugins?). What is the name of this app? Do you plan to do an educational/introductional video for using VSTs on iPad? What iPad version are you using? I have an iPad 10.2 (2020), where Garage Band is working okay. Would it be enough to run more advanced VSTs like Pianoteq or Ravencroft?

    • @FaustoFerreira
      @FaustoFerreira  Рік тому +1

      Thank you! The app is called Camelot. It's a powerfull Audio Units manager, specially for the stage. In iOS you don't have VSTs, you have Audio Units ;) And yes, more videos will come, about DAW's and much more

    • @amitev
      @amitev Рік тому

      @@FaustoFerreira thank you very much for the answer! Are there such apps, that would allow me to combine (so to say) multiple "Audio Units", so that for example I could easily change the unit through a connected pedal to the iPad or to split the keyboard and have one Audio Unit on one side and other on the other side? As already mentioned, I'm trying to explore how far the software instruments could go in replacing a stage piano/keyboard.

  • @paulyllow
    @paulyllow 2 місяці тому +1

    What is the software you use to host all the instrument?

  • @paulyllow
    @paulyllow 2 місяці тому +1

    Do you have a good process to setup instrument on iPad? I often find it hard to get them play in a consistent response and volume with different midi controller. For example, volume output of instrument, volume of iPad, input gain of mixer/PA then sensitivity setting in instrument and actual midi controller sensitivity. Eg. Korg’s E Piano vs Scarbee’s piano in Korg Module, scarbee is definitely more details with wider dynamic, but it also jump to very high level. And constantly distorted at the peak level when hit hard. This sort of inconsistency is quite frustrating to get a coherent sound.

    • @FaustoFerreira
      @FaustoFerreira  2 місяці тому +1

      @@paulyllow You can adjust volume individually for every app, and also inside AUM, Audiobus, Camelot or any other Daw, they have a mixer inside them, or just a simple per track adjustment. Every app is different from their output, so equalize them internally on setup. With some simple setups ( for example, just piano and Hammond gig ) I just use a keyboard with an easy way to change MIDI channel to change sounds, so they have to be equalized to start with. Or just use two keyboards with different Midi channels. Or just use a single app, like Korg Module. In this case you can create a Set List, with several predefined sounds, including simple Layer and split functionality, with independent volume settings for each. Some instruments on Korg Module have steep velocity curves, unfortunatelly the piano type are the worst. Play with the velocity curves in Module Pro to make it more suitable for you and your controller. And tou might sacryfice one effects slot and use a compressor.
      Some audio interfaces bypass the overall iPad volume, some don't. In that case, the iPad volume should allways be maximum. Finally, on sound check, talk to the sound guy or stage guy to find the correct DI settings. They usually have it on 0 DB, they might need to reduce it.

  • @tonylancer7367
    @tonylancer7367 Рік тому +3

    This is a wonderful video and you are an excellent and very knowledgable player, I didn't think you'd get into such details of the different velocity layers.
    I love electric pianos, but I like the 80's style (silky, smooth, bubbly, you can eat it with ice-cream type sound, Al Jarreau, Jay Gordon, George Duke etc.) vs. the 70's style (rough, barky, aggressive, no-nonsense), but to be fair, they probably just added chorus in the 80's to the electric piano.
    If I could rank them, it'd be 1. VTines, 2. Scarbee+NeoSoul tied because they are both good, but NeoSoul passes Scarbee very slightly because it can get aggressive if you want it to.
    Anyways, let me watch the other organ video! 😄

    • @FaustoFerreira
      @FaustoFerreira  Рік тому +1

      Thank you very much! It's true, in the end it's difficult to select an absolut best. They all have faults, but they all find they way to specific situations. But VTines its probably the more versatile, tweakable, less faulty and better adjusted of them all.

    • @1970piano
      @1970piano Рік тому +1

      Maybe it’s me, but i find the VTines sounding nice and authentic, but it barks not enough if you grab in. It doesn’t cut through in a live mix if i am soloing in the upper ranges.

    • @FaustoFerreira
      @FaustoFerreira  Рік тому

      That's why it is dificult to chose the absolut best. Take iLectric for example: one of the earlier and simple of the bunch, no noises or release simulations, correct effects but limited, but cuts through the mix in live context like a samurai knife!

  • @弘光平田
    @弘光平田 6 місяців тому +1

    Thank you for great review.
    I have one question.
    What host app for vst plugin do you use in this video.
    I want to switch vst app by finger touch.

    • @FaustoFerreira
      @FaustoFerreira  6 місяців тому

      Thank you! I use Camelot Pro. My other video might help you:
      ua-cam.com/video/61Lvi0y04bI/v-deo.htmlsi=10SdFEnuMkQozmbH

  • @oslekyios
    @oslekyios 6 місяців тому

    hi! how about a review of electric piano patches in Logic Pro Ipad :)

  • @abolit
    @abolit 6 місяців тому +1

    Thanks for the video. BTW what app are you using for switching pianos/synths starting at 31:30 (big colored rectangular tabs) ?

    • @FaustoFerreira
      @FaustoFerreira  6 місяців тому

      Thanks! I'm using Camelot Pro. Check my other video:
      ua-cam.com/video/61Lvi0y04bI/v-deo.htmlsi=9brEgVe5Ew-gEUJw

    • @abolit
      @abolit 6 місяців тому

      Thank you!

  • @TheIvoryman
    @TheIvoryman 7 місяців тому +1

    I must say, the Wurlitzer in BeatHawk was the best sounding EP of the whole bunch!

    • @FaustoFerreira
      @FaustoFerreira  6 місяців тому

      It is in fact a beautifull Wurly sound!

  • @nahtuanu
    @nahtuanu 7 місяців тому +2

    Can I use your demos on this video for samples.please please 🙏🏾

    • @FaustoFerreira
      @FaustoFerreira  7 місяців тому +3

      I would be flattered! Just remember to allways credit me! If you sel millions with it, I want my piece of the cake!😁😉

  • @StaryFanRocka
    @StaryFanRocka 8 місяців тому +1

    What about house mark1 ?

    • @FaustoFerreira
      @FaustoFerreira  8 місяців тому +1

      Sounds good, but it has this horrible sample transition from mf to ff ( baddly scalled 4 sample layers ) Lack of release samples, no pedal noise, the key noise is very symplistic, etc.. I didn't know about it at the time of my review, or I would have included it, but not putting it side by side with the big boys, its more of a curiosity, a very simple good sounding app. But not for someone who wants a realistic playing experience. I get more excited with software that pushes the iOS capbilitties forward.

  • @jfn467
    @jfn467 3 місяці тому +1

    Neosoul lacks bite, lots of detail but lame dynamics, and it fills up the drive with loads and loads of samples, seems there's no compression used at all.

    • @FaustoFerreira
      @FaustoFerreira  3 місяці тому

      Yes it does, but so does some real rhodes, it depends on the model, the work done on them, the amp used, the hammers etc... I also like my Rhodes with more bite though.

    • @jfn467
      @jfn467 3 місяці тому +1

      @@FaustoFerreira I should have kept at least one of the three I owned back in the 90's, one of them an amazing Mk I that I wouldn't mind having around today... 🤪

    • @FaustoFerreira
      @FaustoFerreira  3 місяці тому

      @jfn467 Personally never had one, allways played with friend's Rhodes, hired ones for big concerts or studio ones. That was enough to scare me off as I understood how fiddly it is to maintain such a sensitive animal. Kind like a dog that requires all of your attention. But hey, now I finnaly have my own dog, maybe it's time to finally get my own Rhodes:)
      And then my own Hammond B3, and my own leslie, and my own CS80, and why not, my own Steinway concert grand😅

    • @jfn467
      @jfn467 3 місяці тому +1

      @@FaustoFerreira Haha!! I have a dog too, much easier in maintenance than a B3, which I never owned but back in the days we were two keyboards players sharing the jobs and the other guy had a B3 and a 122, though I mostly used my ACE Tone GT7 and a 760 solid state. The MkI that I had was in great condition, sold it to a jazz drummer (stupid me..) hahaha!! I have played CS80 too, and CS60, back then as well, talk about high maintenance, and soundwise imho, not worth it! But it is for sure a great investment!! One day when I own a house, I will get myself a Grand Piano too, probably not a Steinway though unless kidneys would increase in value... :D

    • @FaustoFerreira
      @FaustoFerreira  3 місяці тому

      @jfn467 😂 Jokes aside, a Rhodes might be the least scary investment in vintage gear, it's on my near future wish list, with the help of my dog everything is possible!

  • @jfn467
    @jfn467 3 місяці тому +1

    The Numa player is a joke, they should just license a subset of Pianoteq instead, and offer an upgrade for all owners of their boards to the full version...

    • @FaustoFerreira
      @FaustoFerreira  3 місяці тому

      I agree about Numa Player, I don't even understand why they bothered.
      About Pianoteq, I don't see why they would do it, they don't need that, they have their own amazing thing.

    • @jfn467
      @jfn467 3 місяці тому

      @@FaustoFerreira But not in their app... 🤪

    • @jfn467
      @jfn467 3 місяці тому +1

      Studiologic I mean... Pianoteq definitely have their thing together, that's my goto for acoustic pianos.

    • @JayTheLane
      @JayTheLane 2 місяці тому +1

      I've used the Numa player and it's decent when you dial in your own sounds. I find it somewhat sterile and very clean. It doesn't have a great deal of character.