My Viewers' Opinions regarding the Pokémon Legends Z-A Announcement

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  • @GoldenOwl_Game
    @GoldenOwl_Game  10 місяців тому +20

    With how hype and exciting the Legends ZA announcement was, I figured it'd be fun to share what some of my viewers thoughts on the matter are in a more casual and fun general discussion.
    This is just a brief change of pace from my regular video essay style of prepared content. Next video's about Red's final boss fight from the Gen 2 games.
    Let me know if you enjoy this style of content. If you do, I'll probably make more of these "Teatime Talks" when we get a Nintendo Direct or major game announcements in the future. Also yes, I brewed myself some proper pots of tea when working on this. Specifically hojicha and fukamushi sencha.
    The Tea is important.

    • @jessegartung294
      @jessegartung294 10 місяців тому

      I glad you acknowleged Pokemon Production and truth be told I always thought PLA was a testing ground for gen 9.

    • @JackitK
      @JackitK 10 місяців тому

      These are fun little intermissions. I would enjoy seeing more of them.

  • @jaernihiltheus7817
    @jaernihiltheus7817 10 місяців тому +15

    Here's how being only in lumiose could work out:
    -larger representative scale.
    -the pokemon version of the massive parisian catacombs serve as the new dungeons, parks, glades, and canals serve as the overworld encounter spots.
    -this game is likely set in the renovation of paris, where the city was turned from a classic old world city into the modern day metropolitan city we know today, so there's likely more woodlands and sub-villages in the area from the beginning.

    • @brotbrotsen1100
      @brotbrotsen1100 8 місяців тому

      Wait do they mean litterally just in the city or do they mean there is only one city like in arceus?

    • @jaernihiltheus7817
      @jaernihiltheus7817 8 місяців тому

      @@brotbrotsen1100 from the way its worded, literally just in the city, but that's not a big deal because this should be 1800's paris which is isn't at all like modern paris/lumiose. It was more like a bunch of villages next to each other and a crap ton of forests, caverns/catacombs, and rivers criss crossing throughout.
      What it looks like now is the post-redevelopment project which was completed in the 1870s, with the eiffel tower/prism tower being completed in 1889 (same time period legends arceus takes place in).

  • @PhilipMurphy8Extra
    @PhilipMurphy8Extra 10 місяців тому +20

    Golden Owl has a viewpoint of Pokémon Legends, lets go

  • @Jake38nine
    @Jake38nine 10 місяців тому +2

    The Indigo Disc was our Gen 5 "Remake". It was actually a Sequel.

  • @Thelostrune
    @Thelostrune 10 місяців тому +8

    By the way, the Let's Go prototype build shows that we were to get 2 third entries.
    KALOS_RESERVED_1 and KALOS_RESERVED_2 are listed in the debug option for generating a mon, as part of a numbering system that keeps track of what exact game a mon's been caught in.
    My guess is that they would've been called A/Z, XZ/YZ or straight up just X2/Y2. Know this though, they did not intend for just Z by itself.

  • @giratina6665
    @giratina6665 10 місяців тому +5

    finally someone talking about the economic incentives behind the Pokémon games!
    Have been saying this for a while but people really don't seem to get this and ever since the Switch games came out came to very weird conclusions or were rambling about how much money they make and therefore should higher quality games.

  • @Lampent12
    @Lampent12 10 місяців тому +5

    I love this more chill "Tea Time Chat". I'm very stoked to see more from PL: ZA

  • @legeul
    @legeul 10 місяців тому +3

    I wasn't aware that aparently Legends AZ was going to take place in Luminose city, but asuming that's true, and the fact we don't know the time period the game takes palce (just because legends: Arceus happened in the past, doesn't mean all legends games will be the same), so we could have a situation where this could be a legends game that either take place in the present, or in the future, maybe in the future Luminose city expanded and grew even bigger than what we know, it's suposed to be Paris afterall.
    Also another reason why Legends AZ is such a big deal is because, mega evolution is going to come back, and we might even get new mega evolutions.

  • @ThePokegeek5000
    @ThePokegeek5000 10 місяців тому +4

    5:48 Silvally's ability RKS System is also something to consider with the pronunciation of Arceus

  • @Thraim.
    @Thraim. 10 місяців тому +2

    13:15 There are three things that are certain now. Death, taxes and Charizard being shoehorned into all Pokémon games.

  • @toxagen1144
    @toxagen1144 10 місяців тому +10

    14:50 I do wonder how many models they made for specific X and Y though.
    Because Gates to Infinity and Pokedex 3D Pro came out before this (and Dream Radar, but that only had 3 models in it so...shush)
    So I wonder how many models were taken from those games and put into X and Y. So I wonder how many original models they did have to make.
    But even if some of the previous pokemon were already made, you also have to take into account that they also had to make models for everything else in the game as well.
    Buildings, Decorations, Humans, Overworld Elements (like Cars, flowers, etc.) all had to be modeled as well as the pokemon.
    So I could definitely see some corners being cut for X and Y just with how intensive making all these models must have been.

  • @aname4390
    @aname4390 10 місяців тому +1

    Pretty cool to have a chill perspective of new stuff from your pov.

  • @SurrealKeenan
    @SurrealKeenan 10 місяців тому +3

    I wouldn't be surprised if the starters didn't evolve into regional forms but into whole new pokemon a la runerigus and purrserker

  • @tonberry2670
    @tonberry2670 10 місяців тому +3

    Imagine a Dragon type regional variant of Serperior.
    Contrary Draco Meteor AND leaf storms

  • @SerDerpish
    @SerDerpish 10 місяців тому +1

    I really hope this video doesn’t get a copyright strike because of that long-ish Spaceballs clip 😰

  • @TheElectricCaveman
    @TheElectricCaveman 10 місяців тому +4

    Oh, I need to restock my supply of hojicha, thanks for the reminder

    • @GoldenOwl_Game
      @GoldenOwl_Game  10 місяців тому +1

      If you can get it, I personally recommend Hojicha from Ippodo Tea or Marukyu Koyaemen, though I'd assume they probably cost a lot more to ship outside of Asia...
      Good hojicha is absolutely worth paying that bit extra for.

  • @aaronolson6736
    @aaronolson6736 10 місяців тому +3

    I wouldn't discount the possibility of "port" for XY or maybe both gen5 games this year. As far as ZA, I'd love to see this be yakuza-like in game design with dozens of side-content minigames especially if we get a Majima Everywhere system for our rival. I'm hoping while sure we can get new megas, Battle Bond gets explored like they would have in Z.

  • @diostaku2
    @diostaku2 10 місяців тому +6

    I doubt that the starters are going to receive a mega evolution on top of a regional evolution, I suspect that it will not be the starters of this game that will receive megas, but rather the original Kalos starters, it would also be another reference to what happened with the Kanto starters in X&Y

  • @lasercraft32
    @lasercraft32 10 місяців тому +5

    I wasn't expecting Pokemon Z-A, but MAN AM I HYPED. Pokemon XY was my first real Pokemon game, and it holds a special place in my heart. Kalos is the single most underrated region in Pokemon history, so I'm glad its getting a comeback.

  • @lasercraft32
    @lasercraft32 10 місяців тому +10

    I know they'll likely do what they did in Legends Arceus with having three different region's starters... But I kinda wish they would give the og starters more attention. They _deserve_ to have Mega forms. The fact that the starter Pokemon for the very region the mechanic was introduced didn't even get to use it still baffles me to this day.

    • @olafmikoaj3121
      @olafmikoaj3121 10 місяців тому +3

      But megas were introduced to give some older pokemon time to shine. It wouldn't make sense if they created a new final stage pokemon with a need for power boost from the start. If we got mega Goodra for example, wouldn't that take people's attention from newly introduced pokemon Goodra? Diance is an exeption because it's event exclusive and was there to promote the movie.

  • @Nuzzling
    @Nuzzling 10 місяців тому +2

    Yooo you're looking real good there at 0:23 dear Mister Internet Owl Person ;)

  • @fellowpassenger_54-67
    @fellowpassenger_54-67 10 місяців тому +1

    I like to think that those early leaks of the unova remakes were just GF’s way of testing how the fans would react prior to releasing it, after seeing quite a bit of backlash on it they might’ve decided to cancel it this year and take more time to overhaul it and give it a proper remake treatment akin to hgss and oras
    I know that’s unlikely but it would explain why there’s no game announced for this year

  • @thoughtsofaleo2916
    @thoughtsofaleo2916 10 місяців тому

    Really love the teatime talk! It's nice to get the perspective of a game designer on a lot of the theories and thoughts floating around out there - Kalos has always had a special place in my heart and I'm so excited we can go back and finally learn more about it. Legends is truly such a breath of fresh air for the franchise and I really hope this upcoming game is just as good as Arceus was - Kalos deserves a good game!

  • @valen9871
    @valen9871 10 місяців тому

    I really like this [Teatime Talk] style, its really chill and relaxing to listen while also getting insight from you and other players!!

  • @ogluigi
    @ogluigi 10 місяців тому +1

    i honestly really like this type of more discussion-ey videos

  • @madnessarcade7447
    @madnessarcade7447 10 місяців тому +2

    Xy had alot of lore and story it got fleshed out in the anime too

  • @terrariaco8301
    @terrariaco8301 10 місяців тому +14

    The Entire Gen 6 dex needs a facelift. Fennekin and Chespin need love.

  • @smortv9629
    @smortv9629 10 місяців тому +4

    I’m very excited with the fact that Mega Evolution is returning considering it’s my favourite Pokémon game mechanic, Love your Videos Btw!

  • @joshuacross3599
    @joshuacross3599 10 місяців тому +4

    I think that it will be interesting to see the impacts of how this game performs (sales wise). If it really is very different PLA and does well then the legends series could go on to be a wonderful sandbox for gamefreak to play around with. If it's very different and flops then I could see it killing the legends series or at the very least making it pivot back to being more like PLA. Of course if it's similar to PLA and flops then that wouldn't be a good omen for the future of the legends series.

  • @madnessarcade7447
    @madnessarcade7447 10 місяців тому +1

    They give us a presents every summer so there will be something for sure

  • @rikajougasaki3296
    @rikajougasaki3296 10 місяців тому +1

    Even if remakes get removed from the formula, I hope some means of revisiting old regions in a new light will always be there.
    Either way we need Kyurem's true form.

  • @decarabiaumbra560
    @decarabiaumbra560 10 місяців тому +1

    I had higher odds placed on a gen 6 tie in game being shown on pokemon day than a comment of mine actually appearing in a video! I wouldn't consider this an end to the cycle of predictability with pokemon games. Even gens tend to be formulaic whereas odd generations are defined by doing the unexpected. gen 3 had the first remake, gen 5 did sequels, gen 7 had a retelling + a remake of a game that already had remakes, and now 9 has legends Z. The real anomaly comes from having legends Arceus releasing alongside BDSP in gen 8.

  • @PluckyInc
    @PluckyInc 10 місяців тому +2

    I'm going to assume the game probably has either time-travel or dimensional straddling to justify the mention that it takes entirely within Luminose City. little curious about Quasar's project on the town though. wherever if it was a retrospective project that someone initially devised for the town, or if the CG is supposed to imply that it takes place long after XY and SV. if it involves Zygarde, it'd probably be a little weird to explain where professor sycamore found his Zygarde Cube from.
    if it is a earlier Luminose being developed, i'd just guess it's going to integrate the player character being a construction worker/surveyer and has to capture pokemon for jobs. kinda like a city builder. if its in the future, maybe it's a Yakuza/Cyberpunk-type game? though there's only so much they can do within the constraints of the city unless it's size was exaggerated, or you can do fantastical things like dive and enter the catacombs. or just the caverns under Kalos entirely. i would guess that Zygarde could be mostly-indisposed by some evil gang who found a way to control its cells to create mindless drones they can command; which somehow gives you your transport, or just new forms in general. (the minus sign does have a vague amount of Xerneas and Yveltal-ooloured blue and red on the inner outlines)
    Thought it was kind of unusual how they danced around Zygarde (and to a lesser extent Ash-Greninja and the idea of a Pokemon Z) when its complete/core/10% forms were initially revealed on the pokemon website. at that point, all we had was the Red Core appearing at the end of Hoopa's movie in japan (which debuted its unbound form), but then we got SM. long after establishing that there are 2 different-colored cores in the anime canon. the game-canon mentions there being 5 Cores (somehow not in Kalos) all red, in Alola. not helped that the Blue Core Zygarde was not revealed until a few months after Magearna's movie. yet Squishie (the red core zygarde) was able to shift to its 100% form on its own. though that could be explained by a movie taking a lot more work to produce, whereas the anime probably has a week or two buffer before rolling out.
    Also, the idea that the 5 cores controls the Wings and tail was only mentioned on the official site, implying a late addition. curious if the Blue Core zygarde is going to come in with its unused texture IDs.

  • @makeeeveeacupcake
    @makeeeveeacupcake 10 місяців тому +1

    I hope they name the legends z-a protagonists Xavier and Yvonne as those were Calem and Serena’s beta names

  • @DanielDdll
    @DanielDdll 10 місяців тому +1

    I'm wondering if they might avoid Torchic and Charmander as starters since their standard versions have Mega Evolutions. I feel Scorbunny or Litten are much more likely as fire starters, more likely the former imo.

  • @KyogresHideout_Vegito2121
    @KyogresHideout_Vegito2121 10 місяців тому +3

    0:25 Aye that's me 😎

  • @king_of_rats_Monfernep
    @king_of_rats_Monfernep 10 місяців тому +1

    Mom,i on TV!

  • @reeseseater12
    @reeseseater12 10 місяців тому +1

    So I could see you start in the middle with some developments around and you’re expanding, Zygarde being the nature guardian of Kalos would be the problem to undertake, I wonder if that’s an angle this will go?
    As for the complaint a lot of people had with the first Legends game, the limited Pokèdex, I actually liked that. Think, these games probably take place before a lot of the world connected to each other, so a smaller amount to encounter in a region makes far more sense. Also like you mentioned, without having to worry about modeling a crap ton of Pokémon they have more time to focus on everything else

  • @badger273
    @badger273 10 місяців тому +2

    One thing worth noting is that every remake only came out after the first generation on a new console. FRLG came out on the GBA, HGSS on the DS, ORAS on the 3DS, and BDSP on the Switch. If we're ever to get gen 5 remakes, it likely won't be until after the next generation on a new console
    Also, I don't think BDSP were bad games. They added cool things like more competitive teams for the gym leaders and the ability to catch pokemon from the Platinum dex underground, but for whatever reason it didn't *feel* like they added that much to the originals
    And I think that's a combination of not looking very different from the originals and not being able to use newer mons
    I actually like the chibi art style, but it means they missed out on the opportunity to reimagine people and locations in more/different detail. And I think that's literally because they weren't reimagining it; since ILCA didn't make the originals, the were imagining the games for the first time. I feel like if they took more risks, maybe consulted with employees at GF that worked on DPP about what they could change, the games would be more interesting
    As for using newer Pokemon, I don't mind using having to just use mons from the originals for the main story, but in the past I feel like when a remake has come out, everyone switches over to those being the main games to play, and they transfer all their other mons to those games. Not to mention, remakes have always given new tools and moves to mons of the generations that came out before it, and I feel like the lack of that reward discouraged people from playing through it
    What I'm trying to get at here (TLDR) is that I feel like ILCA have the capability to make good gen 5 remakes, they just have to stop sticking so strictly to the originals, because ironically, that makes remakes worse

  • @HaughtyToast
    @HaughtyToast 10 місяців тому +1

    I would replace Torchic/Charmander with Litten since they may be giving megas to the starters and it would be weird if one of the starters just used an older one from a decade ago. Unless you go with the angle that they'll do something similar to the original and give all the Johto starter megas instead of the main starters. That or all the starters will be Charmander and he'll get 3 new mega stones.

  • @PGerman.
    @PGerman. 10 місяців тому +1

    To go back to the Poll, I think the topic of The End is interesting, but mostly for people who haven't had a lot of experience with MGS3, because I did 20+ runs of MGS3DS and killed him like 4 different ways, so the topic would have been boring to me personally.

  • @Cassapphic
    @Cassapphic 10 місяців тому +2

    I feel like at this point rather than want remakes of the older games, I just want a series of straight collections/rereleases. The black and white duology are incredible games but legal means to play them are way pricier and mroe difficult than they should be, encouraging piracy if you want to try out the games everyone praises so much but weren't intersted, or even alive for at the time (The games are 12+ years old this will be a steadily increasing issue), we dont need a one gen at a time fancy remake structure, even if pokemon fans are used to receiving that, I just want there to be some way to play these games readily available.

  • @gabrielfreitas3033
    @gabrielfreitas3033 10 місяців тому +1

    From a production point of view, I expect Z-A to be sort of a testing ground for the next open world games, just in a controlled environment. I wouldn't be surprised if we got a fancy weather system or something like that.
    My random prediction is that Z-A is going to have its own quirky experimental battle system, different from the main series AND Arceus. My bet is on some pseudo real-time battles with cooldowns, like Xenoblade (based on absolutely nothing)

  • @jamesvonderhaar2553
    @jamesvonderhaar2553 10 місяців тому +6

    I’d love to see more off-the-cuff reactions from you. Even the stuff you don’t spend much time on is interesting.
    Anyway, I’m curious how your statement that game devs don’t really run out of ideas contrasts with Mark Rosewater’s obsession with how much design space there is in any given MTG mechanic. Is this a point of disagreement between you two or am I misunderstanding one or both of you?

    • @GoldenOwl_Game
      @GoldenOwl_Game  10 місяців тому +2

      I don't see any particular contradiction here. Rosewater's statements are correct.
      Like he said, there's really only so much you can do with any single game mechanic until it becomes tired and uninteresting. No matter how fun a game mechanic might be, players will naturally grow tired of it after enough times. So designers will need to constantly introduce new elements into the mix to freshen up the gameplay.
      This is what I mean by "designers never run out of ideas". Game designers shouldn't purely be restricted into designing gameplay around the tools that already exist within the game - they need to be experimenting to invent completely new features and mechanics to introduce and change the way the game is played. Not all of these are *good* ideas, sure, but you won't ever create a good mechanic if you are afraid of exploring bad ideas first.
      Take Mega Evolutions for example. They are an incredibly cool mechanic. However, as with any other mechanic, they have a limited shelf life. Each new Mega created results in diminishing returns compared to the last. And their design of being only 1 per team, while necessary for balance, indirectly restricts newer and more experimental Mega designs from being viewed as exciting and viable.
      SV's Paradoxes are also the same, though that's less for mechanical reasons and moreso for flavor. The initial batch were incredibly cool and exciting. But as more got introduced, people gradually began losing interest over time. I'm fairly sure the new ones like Gouging Fire are less hype compared to the first batch like Sandy Shocks.
      I've no doubt one of the reasons why they decided to shift away from Megas after Gen 7 was because they realized Megas were gradually becoming stale, and they needed a different mechanic.

  • @thearrivalcyberseignister8898
    @thearrivalcyberseignister8898 7 місяців тому

    1:56 to be fair, a lot of creative fields can come close to a "ran out of ideas" state, like long running series, this has been mentioned by the simpsons and spongebob that making new episodes gets proggressively difficult, and as a digital painter trying to make a monster taming game i can assure you that getting ideas for design in the first place is challenging, besides im pretty sure they never reffered to the game design side of pokemon considering that they never experimented in the first place

  • @Porifera-Jaymen
    @Porifera-Jaymen 10 місяців тому +1

    Hojicha is so good dude.

  • @MorganTiller
    @MorganTiller 10 місяців тому +1

    I think fire starter will be chimchar just so they have 1 human shape. But i really enjoy your material. Thanks!

  • @thatonepossum5766
    @thatonepossum5766 10 місяців тому +2

    WHAT IF WE GET THE ANSWER TO THE LUMIOSE CITY GHOST GIRL MYSTERY?!?!?!

  • @ShadedAkumu
    @ShadedAkumu 9 місяців тому

    three things from me
    one, i actually expected them to announce some sort of heartgold/soulsilver remake in the engine of bdsp for some reason, i'm not saying that's a good thing, that's just what i was assuming would happen
    secondly, i personally think they won't do regional variants in legends z-a, but instead will go all-in on new megas? just some speculation i suppose
    lastly, i'd be completely fine if they just drop remakes entirely as long as they can rerelease the older titles. i don't understand what's holding them back from making some sort of app on switch to do it even if they don't use the switch online app, the titles are fully compatible with switch online's emulators and online systems, so i don't really get why they don't just take the free money from rereleasing the first 3 generations

  • @0LLy796
    @0LLy796 10 місяців тому +1

    I'm calling it now, in one of the next 2 Pokemon generations, we're getting a "bed" Pokemon. Would most likely be a fairy psychic type 😌

  • @numberhunter62
    @numberhunter62 10 місяців тому

    Not only did Kalos as a region deserve this, Zygarde himself absolutely deserved this. The dude was a rando in a cave in X and Y and in Sun & Moon he was a side quest gather mission. Some people may not have even thought Zygarde was a Legendary initially due to how lacklustre finding him was.

  • @zenronez1158
    @zenronez1158 10 місяців тому

    Why isn't the Owl Golden?

  • @madnessarcade7447
    @madnessarcade7447 10 місяців тому +1

    Pokémon has always been innovating and changing things up so I wouldn’t say predictable
    Predictability isn’t the samething as tradition
    They have always experimented with new concepts and mechanics
    Like breeding,natures,abilities, following pokemon, overworld encounters, physical special split, mega evolution,Zmoves, gigantamax/dynamax amie/refresh/camping, even motion controls from let’s go do these features not count as evolving/progressing are these things not ambitious?
    The restructuring of the traditional Pokémon format by having the third legendary as the main focus not to mention being the first Pokémon games ever to do DLC and the regional evolutions
    Also the various QoL stuff even having dynamax and gigantamax and you would not have SV without the wild area all of these new ideas and things for the franchise
    Are these not ambitious
    I mean all these things have changed the franchise in substantial ways
    Every generation offers something ambitious is replacing gyms with trials not ambitious? Or making the galar league a tournament like the anime instead of a traditional elite four is that not ambitious
    Sure none of them have ever been this super drastic
    But to say it’s “not innovating” is a bit disingenuous
    Has the steps in previous games been a bit smaller I mean sure
    But baby steps and even medium steps is still progression
    Why do we count this and not those
    Shouldn’t it all count?
    Some of these things maybe temporary but they are still creative and ambitious and drastically change the course of the franchise so they count
    They like to get to things at their own pace when they feel ready that’s why sv ended up how it did because the fanbase pushed them to make the franchise open world before they were ready they said numerous times pokemon and open world don’t mix and we didn’t listen
    I’m just sayin if they end up dropping open world for Gen 10
    Because people didn’t like Gen 9 then don’t blame them
    They tried it it didn’t work and now they move on

  • @lawznwdsc
    @lawznwdsc 10 місяців тому

    I'm very excited for this game and I agree with your starters choice, I agree that Kalos needed a legends game with how underwhelming lots of people felt about it. I do think new Megas could be introduce and I definitely think the Kalos starters and many others will get new Mega evolutions.

  • @kenblazewargame4707
    @kenblazewargame4707 10 місяців тому

    I'm going to say this: If anything, unova, actually does get made, i will be surprised. I will greatly feel free to ask why I'll happily explain

  • @dtdc7209
    @dtdc7209 10 місяців тому

    ima be honest idk why people thought there was gonna be gen 5 remakes this year
    gen 1 remakes happen in gen 3
    gen 2 remakes in gen 4
    gen 3 remakes in gen 6
    gen 4 remakes in gen 8
    so why would we get gen 5 remakes in gen 9?

  • @liaka9567
    @liaka9567 10 місяців тому

    I love your explanation about the supposed starters. I've always thought Piplup is perfect for Kalos and Greninja would be better in gen 1-4. I wouldn't be able to think about Snivy and Torchic but they would totally make sense.
    Something random: I don't know exactly why but I also think Rowlet is perfect for Galar. I'm glad it was in PLA though.

  • @bivcbmtgstgtssscqcrddgtrsm2257
    @bivcbmtgstgtssscqcrddgtrsm2257 9 місяців тому

    I'm not interested in playing it, but I am excited to see what they'll do with it.

  • @MorphBall1
    @MorphBall1 Місяць тому +1

    What do you think about Nintendo taking down fangames and trying to take down emulaton? Is it warranted or is the critique from fans that Nintendo is being a greedy company warranted?

  • @madnessarcade7447
    @madnessarcade7447 10 місяців тому +1

    U guys see Pokémon as a game or any other series that’s either good or bad but it’s not that it’s more than that
    It’s a culture and a lifestyle a living breathing world with a story and lore and characters
    We form parasocial relationships with these fictional animals because we love them so much and they have so much personality and backstory
    ​​⁠their dev time is 3-6 actually u just don’t feel it cuz they work on multiple projects simultaneously with the budget of a Disney channel movie around 15-20mil and they have to balance game release with the anime and the cards
    Everyone can say pokemon should be like Zelda or xenoblade but those games don’t have an anime and a tcg they have to abide by it’s like jenga
    And they may or may not share resources that part I’m unsure of
    Hot take:
    the point of Pokémon is to appeal to the widest audience possible and that there’s something for everyone from mainline to the anime to the spin offs
    Well maybe if people got into the other avenues of the franchise rather than solely the games u wouldn’t be disappointed
    Since the series was designed to be symbiotic with itself and to experience every avenue together for a complete experience
    U guys need to reevaluate ur priorities Visuals,frame rate,art style are irrelevant
    People are too focused on superficial nonsense
    ​​⁠let’s be real u didn’t get into the original games for the graphics
    And If u didn’t play games for the graphics as a kid then why would u play them for the graphics now
    Sorry u forgot what the point of Pokémon was to begin with
    Pokémon is always meant to be an entry level jrpg maybe the people trying to hate on pokemon maybe they just aren’t into jrpgs
    If
    The lore was good
    The writing was good
    The music was good
    The vibes were good
    The messages were good
    The character designs were good
    That’s all you really need
    The series knows what it is and its niche(by niche I mean space) and what it wants to be and there’s nothing wrong with that and it doesn’t have to be anything else
    The mainstream audience doesn’t care about graphics or bugs or anything they just like to vibe
    People are just trying to make it something that is isn’t
    And something that doesn’t fit its style
    Maybe u don’t like Pokemon just aren’t into RPGs and that’s fine dont have to use that as an excuse to be toxic
    If its not ur thing just move on imo
    They’re gonna do their own thing and be their own thing in their own way
    Pokémon is always meant to be an entry level jrpg maybe the people trying to hate on pokemon maybe they just aren’t into jrpgs
    If
    The lore was good
    The writing was good
    The music was good
    The vibes were good
    The messages were good
    The character designs were good
    That’s all you really need
    The series knows what it is and its niche(by niche I mean space) and what it wants to be and there’s nothing wrong with that and it doesn’t have to be anything else
    The mainstream audience doesn’t care about graphics or bugs or anything they just like to vibe
    People are just trying to make it something that is isn’t
    And something that doesn’t fit its style
    Maybe u don’t like Pokemon just aren’t into RPGs and that’s fine dont have to use that as an excuse to be toxic
    If its not ur thing just move on imo
    They’re gonna do their own thing and be their own thing in their own way
    Calling pokemon “lazy” is lazy they got more to do than most devs they make two games and have to be symbiotic with the rest of the series and all this other stuff
    They can’t delay the game they have a symbiotic release system
    The games are leashed to the anime,tcg,etc and the anime,tcg etc is leashed to the games
    Tpc is constantly playing a game of jenga trying to balance each of its branches
    The games are in development for 3-6 years we just don’t feel it because a lot of times they work on multiple generations at the same time they have two teams the games have a 15-20 million dollar budget
    They probably share resources
    Maybe about the sharing idk
    They have been working on Gen 10 for a few years now
    Visuals,frame rate,art style are irrelevant
    People are too focused on superficial nonsense
    If
    The lore was good
    The writing was good
    The music was good
    The vibes were good
    The messages were good
    The character designs were good
    That’s all you really need
    Can’t believe people still care about that frame stuff
    I’m sorry people got so lost and brainwashed by the superficialities of the industry you forgot what Pokémon was originally about
    And I know that the game isn’t perfect and that there’s issues
    Pokémon is a franchise where the theme is friendship is magic and meeting cute and cool unique monsters
    What the hell does graphics and performance have to do with those things?
    Nothing if you wanna criticize a franchise criticize it on whether or not it delivered on the messages and themes it promised
    Was friendship magic?
    Did you meet cute and cool unique creatures?
    Ok then it’s a good game
    Those are what’s important to Pokémon
    As the og theme said
    Pokémon is about
    Oh your my best friend in a world we must defend
    I will travel across the land searching far and wide each pokemon to understand the power that’s inside
    Our hearts so true our courage will pull us through
    you teach me and I teach you”
    That’s what it is about and that’s what it will always be about and if that’s what it continues to be about until the end
    Then that’s a strong enough ending for me
    Not sure what graphics and animation and performance has to do with that
    Performance graphics those things never Mattered
    You have to remember pokemon games have only been 3D since 2013 that’s pretty recent compared to other games like Zelda that have been 3D since the 90s and early 2000s so obviously they’re gonna be behind Mixed with the fact that They can’t delay the game because main console for only 5 years compared to Zelda since n64
    The franchise was designed so that every aspect of it has a symbiotic relationship
    The games can’t release without the anime the merch and the manga and the manga the merch and the anime can’t release without the games
    And it’s about time you all understand that by now
    They are doing their best trying to balance the games with the tcg and the anime
    The Pokémon franchise is like a game of jenga
    If you move one thing it all falls apart
    They are doing the best they can sorry I’m the only one who appreciates that
    Unless you want them to hypothetically release the Gen 10 anime and then wait till the anime gets to Gen 15 to release the Gen 10 games
    they are still learning as they go so y’all gotta be patient and give them time to catch up
    Their partnership with take two they’ll apply what they learn back into Pokémon so that’s good
    You have to remember gamefreak are inexperienced with developing open world games so of course there will be some trial and error the more they work on and improve the game and do future games the better at it they’ll get
    Rome wasn’t built in a day we need to be patient
    Assuming we get more open world games
    NOT TO MENTION ScarVi’s development was probably screwed up by the pandemic
    Probably turned it upside down
    And before u say just delay the game
    They can’t delay the game
    The franchise was designed so that every aspect of it has a symbiotic relationship
    The games can’t release without the anime the merch and the manga and the manga the merch and the anime can’t release without the games
    And it’s about time you all understand that by now
    They are doing their best trying to balance the games with the tcg and the anime
    The Pokémon franchise is like a game of jenga
    If you move one thing it all falls apart
    They are doing the best they can sorry I’m the only one who appreciates that
    Unless you want them to hypothetically release the Gen 10 anime and then wait till the anime gets to Gen 15 to release the Gen 10 games
    ​​⁠it’s not outdated it’s rebellious and nonconformist
    They choose to live in their own bubble and be one of a kind and not imitate what everyone else does and they have my respect for that

  • @geonunes10
    @geonunes10 10 місяців тому +1

    This is one of the things we only think about after the fact, but I think they skipped gen 5 because it was the least profitable generation they had. And now people can't say pokemon doesn't listen to the customers because with legends ZA they are going to take an extra year to make the game and they are bringing back mega evolutions, which a very loud portion of the internet have been asking for since 2020.

  • @THGMR-ox7sd
    @THGMR-ox7sd 10 місяців тому +1

    At least BDSP didn't shiny lock everything. They only shiny locked mew and jirachi which I don't mind. As bad as BDSP were I actually had some fun with them and not just for the shiny hunting aspect. I liked the poke ball seals and the underground although the bases were just statue museums instead of actual bases.
    I do agree with a majority of people, BDSP were not good remakes however I didn't hate them. Maybe I'm not a diehard Sinnoh person... IDK. I wasn't as offended as I thought I would be but I understand everyone's hate towards BDSP.

    • @Joe-yx1gq
      @Joe-yx1gq 10 місяців тому

      I do agree with this message Fair Form Perfect But I Do think there semi Underrated But At Least Not Having Any of the Main Legendarys Shiny Locked is a Massive W in My Books

  • @Mikroniix
    @Mikroniix 10 місяців тому

    Imagine if the reason they "skipped" Gen 5 was because they're making Black and White 3 for the Switch 2

  • @SabeNo-rh7mb
    @SabeNo-rh7mb 10 місяців тому +3

    Me: (Still Traumatized from Cynthia and Volo) “Now, what’s the best way to reach level 100 fast?”

  • @RandomHans
    @RandomHans 10 місяців тому

    I don't really see either Torchic or Charmander being the part of the new starters since Charmander was already a starter in X/Y (you get two in the same game), and since we might potentially get brand new Megas instead of regional variants for the starters, I don't see them making a Mega Blaziken Y. But if we somehow get the Kalos starters as our partner Pokemon in Z-A I wouldn't really complain because DELPHOX AND CHESNAUGHT DESERVED THEIR MEGAS 😭😭😭

  • @Kirbita22
    @Kirbita22 10 місяців тому

    a return to kalos was plenty easy to predict given it presumably has a border with paldea, a kalos LEGENDS game was NOT.

  • @neetenshi
    @neetenshi 10 місяців тому

    I don't think Charmander nor Torchic will be the fire starter in ZA, they already have Mega Evolutions (Charizard even has two!). I'm assuming the starters will have new Megas introduced instead of recycling old ones. I see your point about Mega Charizard Z though, that's also an option.

  • @Nightlight404.
    @Nightlight404. 10 місяців тому

    I’m fine with watching less technical videos talking about Pokémon news.

  • @AmewTheFox
    @AmewTheFox 10 місяців тому

    If Z-A does ends up being Yakuza-like, all I can think of is Serena bludgeoning someone with a bike.

    • @VideoGamer110
      @VideoGamer110 10 місяців тому

      That one dancing rival having a baby/diaper fetish and his corpfish feeding him with a bottle

  • @icarue993
    @icarue993 10 місяців тому

    If we are throwing all logic out the window. If I were to erase the Pokemon name from the trailer, my first through would be an urban development sort of game. Imagine a SimCity/City Skylines, but for Pokemon. I don't think it's going to happen as is. But maybe the Yakuza-like experience might be closer to it

  • @sunnywaffles
    @sunnywaffles 10 місяців тому +2

    I have no faith they will pull off just being in luminos city. If we're going to kalos. Let's go to kalos. But megas are back. Not pre order worthy but definitely hype

    • @Socioromanticism
      @Socioromanticism 10 місяців тому

      I'm a big fan of Pokémon, but I agree with you. Pokémon tends to sell me on promise but very rarely _great_ execution. I'm fine with the game being set only in Lumiose City, but I just need to know there's enough interesting there for me to buy it, let alone pre-order it.

  • @Glitch___ed_stsr
    @Glitch___ed_stsr 10 місяців тому

    I personally think(hope) the legends games are going to be Pokemon's spin-off series aim at older fans all good game series aimed at kids need one like mario has the Luigi mansion/paper Mario series

  • @squibbled
    @squibbled 10 місяців тому

    Tbh, I hope they give us national dex with the style of pokemon sv models.

    • @squibbled
      @squibbled 10 місяців тому

      Just a quick note: if they do do this, hopefully they don't spend the whole time doing the models.

    • @decarabiaumbra560
      @decarabiaumbra560 10 місяців тому

      @@squibbled Probably not getting the gen 6 nat dex back with this game. Most likely the 72 original introduced in Kalos + 140 -230 to follow up with how Legends Arceus handled its dex.

  • @madnessarcade7447
    @madnessarcade7447 10 місяців тому +1

    Hot take
    ​​⁠all the remakes they have made In all the years and they only “mess up” one it’s still a good track record there’s no reason to assume it’ll be the case again the butchering was clearly a fluke it was impacted by the pandemic it was just poor timing not a prediction for the future
    The studio that did bdsp have improved since then
    Also every remake is different so it would be a different style
    Bdsp is misunderstood it may not have had platinum content but it did add it’s own new stuff like expanded underground, updated qol, modern type chart, modern movepool, ramanas park etc and it’s got wholesome vibes
    Also Ilca is more experienced now
    It was loved by the mainstream casual audience
    The more hardcore fans may not have liked it but they weren’t the target audience
    The game was designed to be an approachable game for beginner players so they had to make it look as cute and as welcoming as possible hence the chibi appearance

  • @dragomanpl1109
    @dragomanpl1109 10 місяців тому

    I think the 'whole game takes place in luminose city' might be taken too literally

  • @BlastHeart96
    @BlastHeart96 10 місяців тому

    I'm still hoping/thinking that they skipped the Gen 5 remakes in favor of more development time. I really don't want them to release another barebones outsourced game like they did with BDSP.

  • @Socioromanticism
    @Socioromanticism 10 місяців тому

    4:41 Where's my Rika plush, you cowards.

    • @GoldenOwl_Game
      @GoldenOwl_Game  10 місяців тому

      It does exist, funnily enough.
      I actually did see Rika merchandise when I visited the Pokémon Center in Osaka some months ago. They were selling plastic stands, print handkerchiefs, and also her gloves. And yes, tiny plushes of her attached to keychains
      Hilariously, that section attracted a lot of girls

  • @randommemeaddict249
    @randommemeaddict249 10 місяців тому

    You missed using a Pokemon ZA Warudo joke. Do you even JoJo?

    • @GoldenOwl_Game
      @GoldenOwl_Game  10 місяців тому +2

      The hindsight is real.
      I’ll have to remember to make that joke in future

  • @madnessarcade7447
    @madnessarcade7447 10 місяців тому

    8:18 they didn’t break the game they were something where for a second u go that was weird and u progress as before
    Wasn’t the end of the world
    And who cares about tree textures go outside for that

  • @GrandArchPriestOfTheAlgorithm
    @GrandArchPriestOfTheAlgorithm 10 місяців тому

    I think 10th gen shouldn't be released until Switch 2, and should be the last main line games, ever. At this point, we be better off with the RTS model of Base game and expansions.

  • @butlershurk7227
    @butlershurk7227 10 місяців тому

    Have you considered Ar-soy-ss? eu is pronounced oy in German.

  • @Random-person-on-the-internet
    @Random-person-on-the-internet 10 місяців тому

    5:22 This is an inside joke for MandJTV, a popular poketuber, originating from this video. ua-cam.com/video/WeLrOm5-XDE/v-deo.htmlsi=JwmLmnAKRiPTVIZh
    I recommend you watch the whole series because it’s goddamn hilarious, but it’s fine if you don’t trust the link.
    Also, on the topic of Instant-Kill mechanics, if you play Honkai Star Rail(you might, it’s really popular here in sg and also you had a trailblazer reference), the upcoming character(Acheron) has been leaked to have an Instant-Kill mechanic. You should make the video when the details are fully revealed.

  • @darkcerabrate
    @darkcerabrate 10 місяців тому

    I like charizard but I rlly hope he doesn't get another mega

  • @darthmaul5413
    @darthmaul5413 10 місяців тому

    bdsp make me sad of what could have been the platinum outfit is a insult to gen 4 i don't trust gamefreak or ilca

  • @sshadowzlmao
    @sshadowzlmao 10 місяців тому

    it's pronounced ar-chay-us/is/es