Creos should update their range. More side feeders and better triggers with those prices = easy win. And if they want to keep gravity cups - make them smaller for fine detail brushes.
Nice comparison video Rob, all the info you need is here to make an informed decision on which gun will suit you the best👌 I've tagged you in my latest IG post mate where I'm using the MM2 HS clear with the Air Dry Plus hardener👍
No question the 270 is definitely not far behind. Honestly my 771 doesn't see paint very often. I had to replace the nozzle on my 270 cause I dropped it so far and that's been it. Few people need a micron or a 771.. But it certainly is a noticeable difference of course its noticeable how finicky they start getting about paint too. Hence why i keep the 270 out all the time :)
I will try 271 if you have any chance try the colani witht 0.2mm is the smallest needle for that brush the large trigger helps a lot its a pleasure to work with. I replace the ball end with a car air cap its becames my best airbrushes absolute control.
Thank you for the comparison! I think I'm going to go with ps771 and the ps290! I'm excited and can't wait to play with both and so much projects coming in the future cheers 🤙🤙
The ps270 was recommended by you for a starter brush and Rob you were spot on its accurate enough for a newbie like me it's a mid priced brush and suites just fine until skills are dialled in enough to buy higher priced brushes if I'd started out with crappy cheap brushes I dont think I'd be doing it now CHEERS mukka 👍👍👍👍👍👍
Dean, I bought an Infinity a few years ago, but due to the problems Rob has pointed out almost never used it. I hope to fix those using Rob's tips.I bought an eclipse from Hobby Lobby when they had the 40% off coupon and so I got it for right at $100 bucks and I love it. I recently bought a side-feed eclipse and it's became my all around favorite. I have a 771 Creos that I put the Micron main lever on and I love it for detail work. But for most of my work the Eclipse side-feed has taken over. It seems as if my skill came in spurts! By that I mean, I started late in life airbrush painting and I'm learning every painting. But it seems like I'll do a few and there will be something I'm just not totally satisfied with, then I'll try the same painting again, and it sort of just goes boom, that's how I do that. LOL So don't get discouraged and keep that 270 spraying and you will get a lot of satisfaction as it comes together! Bill, of Central Texas!!
@@billybubba600 Thanks Bill been a car painter all my working life I'm 60 now and retiring quite soon and always wanted to get into airbrushing for yrs but never knew how to go about it until I started watching dred fx custom I'm now in contact with him on WhatsApp he told me what to get and how much to expect to pay I got a small studio set up in my yard hardwired to my house so all the power is on tap I can see progress all the time bro and with his help and advice things are getting better but I'll have to admit airbrushes and big guns are 2 different things and it's not the walk in the park I thought it was but I'm getting better bill thanks for your words of encouragement Regards Dean 👍👍👍👍👍
@@deanbrown7643 Although I had some art training early in life, I started airbrushing just a few years ago. I'm retired as well and just like the creative outlet. And like you, pros like Dred FX. Airbrush Asylum, Craig Frasier, and Bill of the Air Space, just to name a few pros I follow, have taught me so much. I appreciate their willingness to share their talent and knowledge with us newbies. As I said, some of the paintings are not quite what I want them to be, but they get better as I go along. So keep watching these guys and listen to their advice as they have the experience and expertise. And a tip of my hat, to those we've lost, like Mike Lavallee, the true fire master, David Morton as well as several other master artists we've lost. I treasure their DVD's and videos.
Good review, I have both of these and they are both great brushes. I also have the 275 and 290 which are really good trigger brushes. Awesome airbrushes at a pretty good price
@@dredfxcustompaint I was actually debating on grabbing the eclipse takumi but I figured I might as well put what I would spend on that towards that micron I've been drooling over lol. I do admit tho that thre regular eclipse is an awesome airbrush too. I got the .05 conversion for it for when I do bigger stuff. Honestly one of the best airbrushes that I have ever used which I still use allot to this day is the iwata neo. That thing is a tank and sprays awesome for how much it costs and you can get great detail. . That was my first decent brush and I still love that thing
As a complete amateur having a .3 nozzle Fenga, I just did that last weekend with my brothers ps-270, compared with his fengda and .2 needle installed. Once they spray, they really give the same result. (To my amateur eye....) But the trigger on the Creos is so much nicer. Immediately gets air flowing once you put the slightest pressure on your finger. And smooth going back to start the paint.. The Fengda needs you to deliberately press down hard and far on the trigger to get the air flowing. And then you can pull back... which you then can set up quite soft if you want. The result is that I needed to concentrate hard on getting air flowing before starting and letting it flow after releasing the trigger. Otherwise I created spatter with the next part. With the Creos it just went automatically. I loved the round dimple trigger on the Creos, as my finger tip sits comfortably in it. The Fenga is flat on top, with some ridges... was more difficult to control for me. Needs again lots of pressure not to slide off to the back. The trigger adjuster on the back of the Fenga is so hard to adjust, (both hard to turn, and too fine a pitch) that you won't use it. The Creos is butter smooth, and quick to set. So I can see myself using it. So far, I never used it on my Fenga because it's so hard to set. No air pressure control on the Fenga. And I do like that feature a lot. Just easier to set up the right pressure while trying on a piece of paper. (And as a beginner, I do need to try that a lot...) With a lot of concentration and carefullness, I could get the same results with the Fenda painting a figurine model. (Using Vallejo acrylics) But it felt so much simpler and natural to work with the Creos. It made it easier to get those results without having all kinds of mistakes, or cramps in my hand.
Thanks for great video! Just one question: does PS771 hold up to solvent-based paint? What I mean is that it only has one solvent resistant sealant and all the other sealants are just a rubber o-ring (which doesn't work well with solvents).
I found the subtle add for the DRED FX Tip Tool at 3:36. Ever since I saw one of these years ago I've wanted one. Made my own shabby version but now I want the real deal. So Rob, Sir, where can I get a DRED FX Tip Tool? Thanks-Rick
Would rather have needled exposed in back with a knob like badger for exactly what you mentioned, needle limiter and cutaways I have never seen ANYONE use 270 and 289 both have the same head assembly as tghe 770/771 and Custom Micron
Hi I have this brush. I enjoy it for the 1st hour but the ps 270 trigger gets loose and unmanageable where the trigger has no controlled response. Have you experience this? If yes do you have a fix like you has for the infinity? Thanks
Hi when you slide your needle in say from the back of the brush does it slide through the body ok .or does it get really tight when you push it just past The trigger .if so you need to clean the brush where the package screw is
It's finally here. Best purchase I've made. Unbelievably responsive, I almost only have to think "Paint on " & it's painting. Lines so thin, the Hubble telescope can't see them. So much than the cheap budget junk I wasted money on. Thx Rob for your tuts & recommendations.
Thanks Rob for keeping Dean quite for a while he loves your videos
Creos should update their range. More side feeders and better triggers with those prices = easy win. And if they want to keep gravity cups - make them smaller for fine detail brushes.
Nice comparison video Rob, all the info you need is here to make an informed decision on which gun will suit you the best👌
I've tagged you in my latest IG post mate where I'm using the MM2 HS clear with the Air Dry Plus hardener👍
No question the 270 is definitely not far behind. Honestly my 771 doesn't see paint very often. I had to replace the nozzle on my 270 cause I dropped it so far and that's been it. Few people need a micron or a 771.. But it certainly is a noticeable difference of course its noticeable how finicky they start getting about paint too. Hence why i keep the 270 out all the time :)
I will try 271 if you have any chance try the colani witht 0.2mm is the smallest needle for that brush the large trigger helps a lot its a pleasure to work with. I replace the ball end with a car air cap its becames my best airbrushes absolute control.
Thank you for the comparison! I think I'm going to go with ps771 and the ps290! I'm excited and can't wait to play with both and so much projects coming in the future cheers 🤙🤙
Your welcome curt you will love the 771 and the ps290 is just a great workhorse all the best 👍
I had kind have all those airbrushes too I stick for Iwatas and the colani which is so great so much control.
Just got the ps270 today and ps771 is on the way!!👍👍
Two great brushes 👌
The ps270 was recommended by you for a starter brush and Rob you were spot on its accurate enough for a newbie like me it's a mid priced brush and suites just fine until skills are dialled in enough to buy higher priced brushes if I'd started out with crappy cheap brushes I dont think I'd be doing it now CHEERS mukka 👍👍👍👍👍👍
Great brush mukka that will last you 👍
Dean, I bought an Infinity a few years ago, but due to the problems Rob has pointed out almost never used it. I hope to fix those using Rob's tips.I bought an eclipse from Hobby Lobby when they had the 40% off coupon and so I got it for right at $100 bucks and I love it. I recently bought a side-feed eclipse and it's became my all around favorite. I have a 771 Creos that I put the Micron main lever on and I love it for detail work. But for most of my work the Eclipse side-feed has taken over. It seems as if my skill came in spurts! By that I mean, I started late in life airbrush painting and I'm learning every painting. But it seems like I'll do a few and there will be something I'm just not totally satisfied with, then I'll try the same painting again, and it sort of just goes boom, that's how I do that. LOL So don't get discouraged and keep that 270 spraying and you will get a lot of satisfaction as it comes together! Bill, of Central Texas!!
@@billybubba600 Thanks Bill been a car painter all my working life I'm 60 now and retiring quite soon and always wanted to get into airbrushing for yrs but never knew how to go about it until I started watching dred fx custom I'm now in contact with him on WhatsApp he told me what to get and how much to expect to pay I got a small studio set up in my yard hardwired to my house so all the power is on tap I can see progress all the time bro and with his help and advice things are getting better but I'll have to admit airbrushes and big guns are 2 different things and it's not the walk in the park I thought it was but I'm getting better bill thanks for your words of encouragement Regards Dean 👍👍👍👍👍
@@deanbrown7643 Although I had some art training early in life, I started airbrushing just a few years ago. I'm retired as well and just like the creative outlet. And like you, pros like Dred FX. Airbrush Asylum, Craig Frasier, and Bill of the Air Space, just to name a few pros I follow, have taught me so much. I appreciate their willingness to share their talent and knowledge with us newbies. As I said, some of the paintings are not quite what I want them to be, but they get better as I go along. So keep watching these guys and listen to their advice as they have the experience and expertise. And a tip of my hat, to those we've lost, like Mike Lavallee, the true fire master, David Morton as well as several other master artists we've lost. I treasure their DVD's and videos.
@@billybubba600 RESPECT bro my thoughts exactly 👍👍👍👍👍
Good review, I have both of these and they are both great brushes. I also have the 275 and 290 which are really good trigger brushes. Awesome airbrushes at a pretty good price
Yes mate they are 👍been using the 771 today and the takumi eclipse in today's video both great brushes
@@dredfxcustompaint I was actually debating on grabbing the eclipse takumi but I figured I might as well put what I would spend on that towards that micron I've been drooling over lol. I do admit tho that thre regular eclipse is an awesome airbrush too. I got the .05 conversion for it for when I do bigger stuff. Honestly one of the best airbrushes that I have ever used which I still use allot to this day is the iwata neo. That thing is a tank and sprays awesome for how much it costs and you can get great detail. . That was my first decent brush and I still love that thing
Iwata brushes are quality Donnie all of them
Love the comparison, I would love to see you review one of the Fengda airbrush models off Amazon the FE-183K or the FE-180.
As a complete amateur having a .3 nozzle Fenga, I just did that last weekend with my brothers ps-270, compared with his fengda and .2 needle installed.
Once they spray, they really give the same result. (To my amateur eye....) But the trigger on the Creos is so much nicer. Immediately gets air flowing once you put the slightest pressure on your finger. And smooth going back to start the paint.. The Fengda needs you to deliberately press down hard and far on the trigger to get the air flowing. And then you can pull back... which you then can set up quite soft if you want.
The result is that I needed to concentrate hard on getting air flowing before starting and letting it flow after releasing the trigger. Otherwise I created spatter with the next part. With the Creos it just went automatically.
I loved the round dimple trigger on the Creos, as my finger tip sits comfortably in it. The Fenga is flat on top, with some ridges... was more difficult to control for me. Needs again lots of pressure not to slide off to the back.
The trigger adjuster on the back of the Fenga is so hard to adjust, (both hard to turn, and too fine a pitch) that you won't use it. The Creos is butter smooth, and quick to set. So I can see myself using it. So far, I never used it on my Fenga because it's so hard to set.
No air pressure control on the Fenga. And I do like that feature a lot. Just easier to set up the right pressure while trying on a piece of paper. (And as a beginner, I do need to try that a lot...)
With a lot of concentration and carefullness, I could get the same results with the Fenda painting a figurine model. (Using Vallejo acrylics)
But it felt so much simpler and natural to work with the Creos. It made it easier to get those results without having all kinds of mistakes, or cramps in my hand.
Hello mate
I have a question, can Iwata airbrushes be cleaned with acetone? and the Mr Hobby? maybe that's a difference between the two?
Thank you
Thanks for great video!
Just one question: does PS771 hold up to solvent-based paint? What I mean is that it only has one solvent resistant sealant and all the other sealants are just a rubber o-ring (which doesn't work well with solvents).
The 771 is solvent proof from the cup to the front end so your good to go
Afaik the Creos and iwata brushes are produced in the same factory.
I found the subtle add for the DRED FX Tip Tool at 3:36. Ever since I saw one of these years ago I've wanted one. Made my own shabby version but now I want the real deal. So Rob, Sir, where can I get a DRED FX Tip Tool? Thanks-Rick
Hi Rick drop me an email and we we sort it out
ROB.DICKONS@VIRGINMEDIA.COM
Would rather have needled exposed in back with a knob like badger for exactly what you mentioned, needle limiter and cutaways I have never seen ANYONE use
270 and 289 both have the same head assembly as tghe 770/771 and Custom Micron
Hi, Rob,
would you get the ps270 or sotar 2020-2f ? I've just started painting miniatures and didn't want to blow the budget.
Thanks for the help.
Ps 270 all day long as you have a mac valve
Hi I have this brush. I enjoy it for the 1st hour but the ps 270 trigger gets loose and unmanageable where the trigger has no controlled response. Have you experience this? If yes do you have a fix like you has for the infinity? Thanks
Hi when you slide your needle in say from the back of the brush does it slide through the body ok .or does it get really tight when you push it just past
The trigger .if so you need to clean the brush where the package screw is
Hi will do a ps270 video later can explain it better for you that way 😉
I have a ps770 and wonder what the difference is to the ps771?
My PS-270 is due tomorrow. (Don't tell the Mrs. She'll never know, she is more interested in Hairbrushes that Airbrushes)
It's finally here. Best purchase I've made. Unbelievably responsive, I almost only have to think "Paint on " & it's painting. Lines so thin, the Hubble telescope can't see them. So much than the cheap budget junk I wasted money on. Thx Rob for your tuts & recommendations.
Just compared both and would take the 270. Both are far better atomising paint than badger and paasche detail brushes.