Hey Trevor! Sorry for leaving you a bent needle airbrush. The tour was quite challenging and we had a ton of airbrushes with us in a tiny cargo area. We tested the often with our meeting and it could be that a used/damaged one ended up in a wrong stock.
I have two Ps770 + 1 iwata custom micron … they handle diffently but get the job done. Pull back on iwata is shorter , to get same result I just thinned it down a little more (+5-10%) …just waiting on Dru soft spring and low rider trigger… they are weapons of mass creations
Another great Video. Also bought it from both ps 770/771 from SprayGunner. Thr ps 770 is now back in the box as a classic. Bought the ps771 to use. Love them both even more with the drublair spring. Thanks for sharing your thoughts. The parts fit my micron Cmc .23 iwata of course I did not run paint due to the needle size diff. But some have tried interchanging the parts between iwata micron cm sb .18 and the ps 770/771. It does seem like the iwata are made by a better material but for the price I would buy another one again! Thanks again Trevor.
Most don't realize it, but the vast majority of Japanese manufactured airbrush parts (regardless of brand) are cross compatible. I don't necessarily recommend that practice, but it is true. The parts that make them individual, which are closely guarded proprietary secrets for each brand, are the nozzle opening, the nozzle cap exit bore and needle taper.
Interesting. I picked up a 770 for my collection as well, and I noticed the same issues. I had a very similar experience, but in my case it was a dodgy nozzle. Once I swapped it out with a spare Iwata one I had on hand, it fixed the issue. Reached out and got a replacement nozzle. Unfortunately the replacement nozzle fixed the oval spray pattern, but the performance off the trigger was still mushy and a bit unpredictable compared to an SB or CM-C. However, it was better than my Sotar, so it's a mixed bag. I think properly tuned and with a good after market needle polish, it's a great deal at that price. I am a little hesitant recommending it myself however, because the quality control doesn't seem to be quite "there". I did find that the needles were very easy to bring up to a good standard tho, with a sharpenair, and then a progression of sandpapers, 3k to 7k. So for 5 minutes work you can get a needle that can be swapped into your Iwata guns at 1/5th the price. But IMHO, they do need a bit of work. The factory polish and sharpen just isn't at the same standard that Iwata or Olympos use. But, we're talking 5 minutes or less, and it's even something that Iwata needles can benefit from, at least to reduced the dreaded tip dry.
Hey Kim! Learning that another accomplished artist experienced a similar issue with the same brush is not reassuring. Trigger performance is definitely different compared to the Iwata's I normally use, but mine feels solid. Predictability is not even in the same ballpark compared to a Micron based on my experience. This is one of those situations where you still get what you pay for. My Micron's run circles around the PS770 as far as anything intricate and detailed is concerned. It's very difficult to match or surpass the precision of a Micron. There is a reason so many of us choose to use Iwata airbrushes.
@@wickedartstudio - Absolutely agree. For detail and control, I always fall back to my trusty CM-SB. I'm a gorilla, so the cup on my CM-C+ makes it a secondary choice. It's funny, but a lot of people say they can't tell the difference between a 770 and a CM. I sure as heck can, but it's nice to hear another accomplished artist echo the same. Makes me feel a little less crazy. LOL
Great video, thanks a lot! Could you please make a video in which you explain how to clean the creos ps 771? I have noticed that there are not that many video that talk about the cleaning process of this particular airbrush.. What I'd like to understand in general is which parts I should disassembly/clean regularly (at the end of each painting session) and which ones just once in a while.. 🙏🙏🙏 Thanks again for your great content!
Hi Trevor...I have a Pasche Vission with a .20 needle (not much) bigger than the 770 brush...have you ever tried it? It has a mack valve...haven't used it much 😟 with not having good trigger control, with proper paint/reducer mix & psi was afraid of using it🥴 but have been able with as you say PRACTICE injoy using it...sent you some pictures of my first time doing a animal portrait...THANKS for doing these videos 👍👍👍
Hey Rich! I haven't tried the Vision brush. I don't think I've tried any of the Paasche brushes in the last twenty years. I had a few early in my career, but it's been a long time. Personally, I don't use the MAC valve on any of my airbrushes that have one. I learned to airbrush long before the MAC valve existed, and I can do everything I need to do without it. I guess I fall into the can't teach an old dog new tricks adage on that one... lol! I saw and replied to your email with the animal portrait pictures. They turned out great my friend!
Thanks for the review and the comparison :) I seems that the PS770 is a very nice alternative for detail work, even if it's not the same as the Iwata micron. Especially for those who don't want to spend a large sum of money.
Hi James! Honestly, I would choose the Iwata. Iwata airbrushes have been my preference for thirty years. I have owned and tried numerous other branded airbrushes during that time frame. I have always reverted back to my Iwata brushes at some point. It's a very subjective thing. At the end of the day, I know what kind of quality, durability and precision I'm getting with an Iwata airbrush based on my own experience. I'm not saying no other manufacturer meets those same standards. I just don't have the same amount of experience with any other brush over extended periods of time.
I would choose Creos PS 270 for half the price ;) I own PS 771 and PS 289 (0.3mm), and I rarely use the first one. If I had 270 which is 0.2 it would be my ultimate all-rounder, details included. And I will get one! ;)
I see and hear comments that these brushes are a "knock-off" a lot and I disagree. The GSI Creos airbrushes are actually made by the same company that used to make Olympos airbrushes. That same company also happens to produce all of the Iwata brand airbrushes currently, and the manufacturing of both does happen in the same facility. The same company will also produce "branded" airbrushes for any customer willing to place minimum quantity orders. From a business standpoint, the companies behind each brand are independent of each other even though individual parts for each brand are made at the same factory. Most people don't realize it, but the majority of parts from different Japanese brand name airbrushes are actually cross compatible. In reality, I guess they could all be called "knock-offs" because they are all that similar, lol. The basic design has been pretty well perfected at this point. Why reinvent the wheel? The parts that make each brand individual, which are closely guarded proprietary secrets, are the nozzle opening, the nozzle cap exit bore and needle taper. The GSI Creos airbrushes have been around for more than a decade in Japan (although there were a couple of name changes during that time). They've only been available here for a few years. So, they are new to the U.S. market, but they aren't new to the game.
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My fav brush. 771... With Dru Blair spring. Can't beat the price and value along with quality. Well built.
Awesome!
I'm so glad you are reviewing this. I have been wanting to get one for awhile. I'm sold now and will have to get it. Thanks trevor.
Got mine about 2 years ago and love it. You won’t be disappointed
@@caseycarlson5953 I appreciate that looking forward to getting it.
Hey Thomas! It is a good brush, especially considering what you get for the price.
@@wickedartstudio yeah I see alot of people using it.
Love the honesty buddy. Great videos.
Thanks Pete!
Hey Trevor! Sorry for leaving you a bent needle airbrush. The tour was quite challenging and we had a ton of airbrushes with us in a tiny cargo area. We tested the often with our meeting and it could be that a used/damaged one ended up in a wrong stock.
No need to apologize my friend. I can only imagine how challenging your trip was. Thank you for allowing me to be a small part of it!
I have two Ps770 + 1 iwata custom micron … they handle diffently but get the job done. Pull back on iwata is shorter , to get same result I just thinned it down a little more (+5-10%) …just waiting on Dru soft spring and low rider trigger… they are weapons of mass creations
They do handle differently, and I still prefer my Micron's for intricate precision detail work, but the PS770 is a very good brush for the money.
Another great Video. Also bought it from both ps 770/771 from SprayGunner. Thr ps 770 is now back in the box as a classic. Bought the ps771 to use. Love them both even more with the drublair spring. Thanks for sharing your thoughts. The parts fit my micron Cmc .23 iwata of course I did not run paint due to the needle size diff. But some have tried interchanging the parts between iwata micron cm sb .18 and the ps 770/771. It does seem like the iwata are made by a better material but for the price I would buy another one again! Thanks again Trevor.
Most don't realize it, but the vast majority of Japanese manufactured airbrush parts (regardless of brand) are cross compatible. I don't necessarily recommend that practice, but it is true. The parts that make them individual, which are closely guarded proprietary secrets for each brand, are the nozzle opening, the nozzle cap exit bore and needle taper.
Just got my PS-771 today. can't wait to dig in.
Awesome! Let me know what you think of it.
Interesting. I picked up a 770 for my collection as well, and I noticed the same issues. I had a very similar experience, but in my case it was a dodgy nozzle. Once I swapped it out with a spare Iwata one I had on hand, it fixed the issue. Reached out and got a replacement nozzle. Unfortunately the replacement nozzle fixed the oval spray pattern, but the performance off the trigger was still mushy and a bit unpredictable compared to an SB or CM-C. However, it was better than my Sotar, so it's a mixed bag.
I think properly tuned and with a good after market needle polish, it's a great deal at that price. I am a little hesitant recommending it myself however, because the quality control doesn't seem to be quite "there".
I did find that the needles were very easy to bring up to a good standard tho, with a sharpenair, and then a progression of sandpapers, 3k to 7k. So for 5 minutes work you can get a needle that can be swapped into your Iwata guns at 1/5th the price. But IMHO, they do need a bit of work. The factory polish and sharpen just isn't at the same standard that Iwata or Olympos use. But, we're talking 5 minutes or less, and it's even something that Iwata needles can benefit from, at least to reduced the dreaded tip dry.
Hey Kim! Learning that another accomplished artist experienced a similar issue with the same brush is not reassuring. Trigger performance is definitely different compared to the Iwata's I normally use, but mine feels solid. Predictability is not even in the same ballpark compared to a Micron based on my experience. This is one of those situations where you still get what you pay for. My Micron's run circles around the PS770 as far as anything intricate and detailed is concerned. It's very difficult to match or surpass the precision of a Micron. There is a reason so many of us choose to use Iwata airbrushes.
@@wickedartstudio - Absolutely agree. For detail and control, I always fall back to my trusty CM-SB. I'm a gorilla, so the cup on my CM-C+ makes it a secondary choice.
It's funny, but a lot of people say they can't tell the difference between a 770 and a CM. I sure as heck can, but it's nice to hear another accomplished artist echo the same.
Makes me feel a little less crazy. LOL
Great video, thanks a lot! Could you please make a video in which you explain how to clean the creos ps 771? I have noticed that there are not that many video that talk about the cleaning process of this particular airbrush.. What I'd like to understand in general is which parts I should disassembly/clean regularly (at the end of each painting session) and which ones just once in a while.. 🙏🙏🙏 Thanks again for your great content!
I will add your request to my list of videos I need to produce. Thank you for the kind words!
Hi Trevor...I have a Pasche Vission with a .20 needle (not much) bigger than the 770 brush...have you ever tried it? It has a mack valve...haven't used it much 😟 with not having good trigger control, with proper paint/reducer mix & psi was afraid of using it🥴 but have been able with as you say PRACTICE injoy using it...sent you some pictures of my first time doing a animal portrait...THANKS for doing these videos 👍👍👍
Hey Rich! I haven't tried the Vision brush. I don't think I've tried any of the Paasche brushes in the last twenty years. I had a few early in my career, but it's been a long time. Personally, I don't use the MAC valve on any of my airbrushes that have one. I learned to airbrush long before the MAC valve existed, and I can do everything I need to do without it. I guess I fall into the can't teach an old dog new tricks adage on that one... lol!
I saw and replied to your email with the animal portrait pictures. They turned out great my friend!
Thanks for the review and the comparison :)
I seems that the PS770 is a very nice alternative for detail work, even if it's not the same as the Iwata micron. Especially for those who don't want to spend a large sum of money.
Exactly! For the money, I don't think the PS770 can be beat currently.
There is no ps 770 only a ps 771
Looks like a great bit of kit 👍
It is a very good brush for the money based on my experience.
if you had to choose between the PS 771 or an Iwata High performance plus B, which is basically same pricing, which would you choose?
Hi James! Honestly, I would choose the Iwata. Iwata airbrushes have been my preference for thirty years. I have owned and tried numerous other branded airbrushes during that time frame. I have always reverted back to my Iwata brushes at some point. It's a very subjective thing. At the end of the day, I know what kind of quality, durability and precision I'm getting with an Iwata airbrush based on my own experience. I'm not saying no other manufacturer meets those same standards. I just don't have the same amount of experience with any other brush over extended periods of time.
I would choose Creos PS 270 for half the price ;) I own PS 771 and PS 289 (0.3mm), and I rarely use the first one. If I had 270 which is 0.2 it would be my ultimate all-rounder, details included. And I will get one! ;)
where did you get the needle from. i am seeming to have trouble to find suppliers for spare parts. thank you
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Everyone else covered it pretty well. I'll just say thanks! Very useful video!
Thank you, my friend!
I have the ps770 keep it or sell it and get the ps771
The 770 and the 771 are the same brush. The only difference is the finish.
The needles that come with these airbrushes are suspect. Replacing them with a .18 Iwata needle puts these airbrushes on par with the Micron.
I know of others that are using Iwata needles in these airbrushes. Personally, I have not had the need to try this yet but thank you for sharing!
A micron rip off.
I see and hear comments that these brushes are a "knock-off" a lot and I disagree. The GSI Creos airbrushes are actually made by the same company that used to make Olympos airbrushes. That same company also happens to produce all of the Iwata brand airbrushes currently, and the manufacturing of both does happen in the same facility. The same company will also produce "branded" airbrushes for any customer willing to place minimum quantity orders. From a business standpoint, the companies behind each brand are independent of each other even though individual parts for each brand are made at the same factory. Most people don't realize it, but the majority of parts from different Japanese brand name airbrushes are actually cross compatible. In reality, I guess they could all be called "knock-offs" because they are all that similar, lol. The basic design has been pretty well perfected at this point. Why reinvent the wheel? The parts that make each brand individual, which are closely guarded proprietary secrets, are the nozzle opening, the nozzle cap exit bore and needle taper.
The GSI Creos airbrushes have been around for more than a decade in Japan (although there were a couple of name changes during that time). They've only been available here for a few years. So, they are new to the U.S. market, but they aren't new to the game.