Just like to say what you guys are doing at TEC is brilliant, well made parts at an affordable price! And British made,brings a tear to my eye god bless you all ! Amen
This is one of the few good things to come out of the Brexit fiasco, since the UK pound has tanked against the US$ . It is now easier and cheaper to make things in the UK as our labour prices are more competitive for export, and imports are more expensive. Our fastest growing markets are selling to India and far east. EVERY CLOUD.
Just today installed a TEC Bike Parts x-pipe on my Triumph T120. Very pleased! There's more sound. Not different, just more, and very pleasant. The bike has always had a very sensitive throttle, a little abrupt. This is gone. Throttle response is now VERY smooth. There's a little less engine braking available than there was, but not by much. There's still no decel pop. No engine remap was necessary. This X-pipe fits nicely with no "persuading", using the original seals and clamps. It doesn't hurt that this righteous little mod reduces the bike's weight by 4 lbs. Nicely done, gents!
Do you know if their TEC Slips ons from this video will fit the T120 ? ua-cam.com/video/2vCYI6vrIzo/v-deo.html&index=13&list=PLstsF6fI3SNLpQEV5VPnelrGk7n1_da3i
So, I just finished installing the Tec X-Pipe and man, what a difference! It sounds amazing, and the low speed throttle response is greatly improved. I could not be happier. I expected it to sound better, but I wasn't expecting the smooth throttle response. In my opinion it was worth it just for that alone. The deep rumbling sound is a bonus! I also installed their bar-end mirrors. They look great, were a breeze to install, and they provide a better sight picture than the the stock mirrors, and you can't beat the price. Two thumbs up for Tec Bike Parts. If you're in the market for a de-cat or some mirrors to jazz up your Triumph, I can definitely recommend these guys.
@@salskars6637 Yes. I'm still running the stock silencers. I think they sound fine, but I've never been crazy about the pea shooter looks, so I may buy some slip-ons one of these days just to improve the looks. But I have a bunch of other money to spend first. I'm looking at windscreens, passenger back rest, panniers, mini LED indicators, and a few other things. Plus, I need some new riding gear, like a summer mesh jacket and a jacket for the other 3 seasons, gloves, pants, etc.. If I'm not flat broke by then maybe I'll look I to some better looking pipes.
Hi there, installed BP, opened filter and DECAT/XPIPE on my TTR all parts from TEC. Have Shorties opened and the engine just thanked me. Sound brutal, engine response spot on and revs perfect. No hesitation to say pure joy ride. Ecu calibrated itself. Dont need more, done 100 km on known ride to compare and just go for it if U want to refresh your ride.
Thanks for the walkthrough. I didn't have as much free play in my frame and had to also loosen the other side, and disconnect the kickstand sensor. My clutch cable was also really tight. Eventually I worked the cat out, though, and the xpipe sounds great with my tec slip ons.
I bough a new harley in '14 when cats became mandatory. I took an angle grinder to a bike with 15miles on. Huge difference. I've seen many a pipes sliced since.
Just fitted the TEC X-Pipe to my T100 Bonnie.....in this vid the tank is not moved....got to be on my T100 as that top frame bolt is behind it.....also leaving the front pipes hanging is not an option.....as my pipes have long extension outer covers. Had me scratching my head. Test rode the bike....its great....love the sound....and goes great.....and the horrendous heavy engine braking is much improved....more normal feeling now. My X-Pipe seems to be a modified version....with pressed upper and lower middle sections. I ran my bike up onto 50mm thick lengths of wood....front and back.....makes access easier.....and I could get me head under the X-pipe to see to pesky back clamps.....I have a ctr stand.
Fitted the TEC x-pipe to my Speed Twin with Weslake Shorty Pro's today. Sounds awesome, looking forward to seeing what its like on a run. Have also got the Tail tidy, Levers and DNA filter (snorkel removed) fitted. Highly recommend TEC bike parts, a huge thanks to the team.
I just fitted a TEC X-Pipe to T120. The procedure is similar. The main difference is the header pipes heat shield. It's in one piece which make alignment a shade trickier. Plus one of my rear cup clamps was a totally 2hat to get seated and clamped. The noise is nice but also my sear of pants dyno says more midrange. I didn't expect to 'feel' and difference. Did me a excellent modification.
Installed x pipe and cans today....they sound great...my only struggle was top frame bolt but I manage to do the job without totally removing but slackened off...all else went perfect but had to buy 8mm Allen for rachet....weight difference is most obvious when riding...engine is sharper and reactive....long weekend ride needed now...thanks TEC team. (Luggage rack, Xpipe, End Cans....next maybe shocks and fork springs)
Sounds great! I’ve just received my decat - I have to figure out if my J&S jack will be a suitable platform to do the job 🤞🏻 but can’t wait to hear and feel the difference in my Speedmaster!
Just put one on my 2017 T120 is does sound good. Not sure if the one for the US comes from different manufacturer, but fitment was not the greatest. Welds had to be ground down in side the pipe, does not slide all the way into the rubber mount on right side of bike, and had to grind down the heat shield to have it fit properly on without rubbing mounting bolts. For the price I would say it is pretty good, but hindsight I think I would spend the extra money on a Motone or one of better build quality.
Fitted this to my 2018 Speedmaster with the 1200HT engine today. It was a little more tricky, had to remove the footpeg bar as well. One thing I noticed, is the TEC x-pipe is 10mm narrower than the stock cat ONLY at the fixing points, so it sits across to the left by this much, being pulled away from the post on the right by the 2 fixing bolts on the left. It still works as it should though but had a bit of a battle getting the LHS header pipe on, had to widen it at the lower flange because of the slight angle change due to it's skewiffishness to the left, maybe it's by design to get it into place easier, or maybe I have a defectively manufactured unit, I don't know. As others have said, more noise (louder and sounds less like a Superdream and more like a Triumph), smoother throttle from pulling away (or am I just getting used to the drive by wire), no noticeable changes otherwise.
The torque is a function of exhaust scavenging, which the x-pipe crossover accomplishes. But to get the air-fuel ratio where it should be especially after opening up the system, you need a power module and/or ECU reflash if you don't want to run lean and give the engine a slow death. You'll regain all the power and then some. Sound will also change with proper air-fuel ratios.
No, this is all tosh. It's an internet rumour that they run lean. By default the 1200s all run rich on acceleration, and stoich on cruise due to the O2 sensors in closed-loop mode. A PCV can be used to smooth out the delivery and adjust timing, but it's far from necessary.
And from dyno charts I have seen on the 1200cc, they never get close to stoich even on cruise. all this self learning talk makes me question this too. for an ECU to "self learn"or more properly put, adjust the A/F ratio across the entire throttle range, it needs sensor input. Unless the 1200cc twins have wide band Lambda sensors, I don't see any way for these ECUs to self learn. Narrow band sensors which unless i'm wrong are on the 1200cc bikes, (my Street Twin has narrow band sensors BTW), only micro manage the A/F from just below stoich to just above in closed loop. I am speculating, but I think all these bikes are so de-tuned low revving and run so rich from the factory, there is little danger of over leaning them. I would love to see hard data on the 900cc WC twins.
The self-learn stuff is all a bit of bollocks. They have trim values that self-adjust, but nothing like some internal AI unit that does mass-adjustments :) They do all run perfectly at stoich on the dyno. Charts showing otherwise probably have dodgy gas analysers (which is not uncommon), but a narrowband O2 sensor forces it to be stoich unless they're faulty. What you say re below/above is absolutely correct, and the same on the 1200s, and they only ever run rich on acceleration.
Hi really struggling here to get the exhaust clamp on from the decat to the exhaust pipe under the bike the one that is 2 U Shapes with a hinge , any ideas please thanks
Fitted an x pipe to my thruxton r today,I'm not a mechanic but no mug either,but it took 4 1/2 hours but very fiddly nothing like the video,butwith a little perseverance and comprehensive tool kit you should be ok. Did min on a paddock stand and laid on the floor,not ideal,was it worth it?......OH YES! The sound is just what I wanted running with a pair of straight through Vance and Hines!
Your stuff is great quality and even better value. I have a T120 on order but am I right in saying they've welded the cat to the headers on the new models?
Hi Tec, 2 things I've noticed since fitting your X pipe on my 2016 Street Twin. 1. The sound is AWESOME!! 2. Blue smoke when I rev it. I didn't see any smoke in your video, from any of the pipe configuations. Is it normal to see some initially? (I'm still running the stock mufflers). Cheers in advance.
Great aftermarket products you guys make & your videos are very well put together can I ask if you guys make a grab rail for the Speed Twin, keep up the great videos!! 👌🏻👍🏻
Sounds great. You’re bringing some great items to market, keep up the good work. One question, at 54 seconds the bike fires almost instantly however after 17.37 it takes much longer to fire irrespective of which pipes are used. Any thoughts on why?
I can’t get enough room when loosen the frame to pull out the cat on my twin. What bolt am I missing? It seems to be about 85% of where it needs to be space wise…
Hi George, it was nice to receive my order. I’m almost done removing my stock exhaust (2023 Speed Twin 900), except for one thing. The exits from the CAT that are feeding the rears have no clamps like the fronts did. These appear to be welded in place. Options? Get out the sawzall ? Any ideas? Thank you.
Hello! Love your parts! Will this procedure be the same for a 2021 Speed twin 1200? Also, what size tools are needed? Last, what torque values for all bolts? Keep up the great work! Thanks.
I bought this TEC Decat for my Bobber 2017 few days ago. I asked my Triumph mechanic for installing. So - more or less - how many working-hours are commonly needed to take off the original cat and install the new TEC's?
basically the same except, you need to loosen the tank rear mount and slide it back a couple of inches, (no need to disconnect anything) to get access to frame rail top bolt. Best to remove the front pipes fully because of balance pipe , and easier to reinstall if you fit both front pipes at once . so a helper is good for that stage.
Wow! Thanks for this awesome video. So with this method, you don't have to mess with that big Torx bolt like everyone talks about? Also, does TEC offer a military discount?
Hi Yes we are always ready to help those serving in our forces and blue light services. As well as genuine Bike club members, just give us a call with what you require and we will do our best to help.
Got my decap from you all, planning on working on it tomorrow til finished. One quick question, with my 16 Thruxton R can I just loose the head pipes, and remove the silencers, or follow the steps as in your T120 example? Thanks in advance, let the adventure begin JoeM
I've just bought a 12 month old Speed Twin with the TEC decat and Vance and Hines. It pops one hell of a lot on deceleration/throttle release and also a single pop when the clutch is pulled to change gear. Is this normal or is there possibly an issue with the install? I sort of like it but it is a bit excessive. I'll considering reverting to the cat. I bought it as it is loaded with almost every other TEC part too! Beautiful! Any help/advice gratefully received.
I bet one of the 2 piece clamps is not seated correctly......what a fiddle.....can look like it on ok.....but may not be....I have heard some pop....mine doesn't I am glad to say. Saying that I am still on factory pipes.
Regarding the restrictive camshaft Triumph fitted to their Street Scrambler - would they fit the same camshaft to Export versions they send to Australia? England has A2, we have a similar restriction called LAMS or such. Can't believe people with P plates would be thinking about a 900cc bike.
George mentions the X-decat relative gain in the clip on the T100 Cams:"How to de- restrict 900cc Triumph Street Twin/Cup/Scrambler/T100"ua-cam.com/video/hRk6x_u3mBI/v-deo.html
Three things: First, why did it seem like the bike didn't want to start on the first try after fitting the X-Pipe and each subsequent set of cans? Second, would you consider doing an install video for the 1200cc Speed Twin? Unless, the process is absolutely identical. Third, do you absolutely recommend the installation of a "booster plug" with this mod, when sticking with the stock cans and baffles? I've seen where some users have said they didn't need it. However, if these bikes run as lean as they're supposed to, in order to pass Euro 4 and/or Euro 5 regs, I don't see how that's possible. Thanks, George! I think this is going to be the first "performance mod" I do to my girlfriend's 2019 Speed Twin!
speed twin is basically the same but like the thruxton and t120 you need to loosen the rear tank mount and pull tank back slightly to gain access to the top R/H frame rail bolt, no need to remove tank or fuel pipes etc. Also easier if you remove the full exhaust off the bike and best to have help when re fitting the front pipes as easier to fit both front pipes together.
Re booster plug, it is not essential to fit one and the bike will run safe with a TEC decat fitted on stock ECU tune .We have done lots of testing to check this on all water cooled twin models. What you find on all stock out of the showroom Euro 4 models is that you have a lumpy throttle response with quite a noticeable lag when coming back on the throttle from fully closed. The TEC de cat pipe helps to reduce this and the booster plug will also help with this by giving a richer mixture during acceleration. Combined they make a big difference to the way the bike rides and makes it much smoother and crisper during acceleration.
I'm wanting to do the TEC X Pipe on my Thruxton R (2016) along with VH slip on, is it necessary to flash the ecu also, or remap the air and gas to the cyclinders? Is this something I can do from my laptop, along with some kind of download, or must it be from a dealer? thank you I've enjoyed all the vid and found them very informative
Hi No remap available for the 1200cc motors available from Triumph or any other source at the moment. We have done lots of dyno testing and the bike will run safe and OK with the de cat and straight through type silencers. However the engine will be more responsive and will run better with a fuel enrichment system fitted. You can use a Power commander, but this is a bit of over kill as a Booster plug device will work great and does not need any programming. We can supply both the Booster plug or a Power Commander V system. The Booster plug is straight plug in ,it takes about 5 mins to DIY install and costs £119.99 from us. see www.boosterplug.com The Dynojet power commander V starts from around £380.00 plus installation and programming. Price of the Power commander depending on what options/add on's you require , but you only really need this if you are going to fit a race cam. see www.dynojet.com
Hi guys, I bought the x-pipe and tried to install it on my 2018 T120. It didn’t fit right and upon closer look, I noticed that the pipe connections are shorter than on the cat and the hanger on the front end on the unit was welded crooked. So, if I connect the pipes evenly, it doesn’t reach the hanging bolts or if I hang the x-pipe on the bolts, the pipes on the right side barely connect to the unit. Unfortunately, costumer support is MIA this time. Bummer. I’ve purchased other products with great satisfaction in the past.
Hi Very unusual to have any problems with fit on these as made on a very tight jig, but it is possible for some small distortion can occur from welding . Are you in UK or USA. If in the UK you can call or email us and we can talk you through any fitting issues. At TEC we always stand by our products with full no quibble warranty and after sales back up
Thanks for your prompt response. I’m in the US. I sent support an email with a couple of pictures. As I said in my message, I’ve purchased other products in the past (levers and mirrors) and the quality and customer support has always been superb. Thanks.
Dear Sir, Thank u for the Wonderful Videos & Tutorials u keep posting, wish your TEC parts could easily be possible to all the way in India, anyways for now i shall be grateful if u could guide me, i see a higher risen Handle bar on the Street Twin in the video above, it ain't Stock..i am facing a lot of discomfort while riding.. my body weight falls on my palms... i did try adding one inch spacers below the the stock handle riser, helped to a small degree but yet not comfortable, the riding position too is backward foot, seat pan slipping down a la sports.. the ride puts pressure on my hands , back and the rears.. basically the bike falls a bit short for my height too.. i come from the upright riding position of the Royal Enfield Classics.. tried changing the handle bars but the cables fall short.. pls care to advise me a solution on the same. Thanks , Warm Regards Arsh JaiKrishan
Hi yes I had the same problem,slight rise on the bars make bike much nicer to ride.we will soon be making a fat bar conversion kit with several bar options for the street twin and all other bonnie models. I have just got a new street scrambler to evaluate and one of the first things I noticed on the bike is the slightly raised bars and the huge difference to feel they make.
Can you please verify the torque settings? I have seen different torque setting suggested on other x-pipe videos and I am unable to find a service manual. Thanks!
Hello, Very informative video, thanks! Question: does your X-pipe de-cat lessen engine braking after installation on the T120? I ride a lot in the hills. Thanks!
It does on my T100.....which to me is a good thing.....engine braking was far to much for me with the cat.....it feels more like the engine braking I am used to now....still there but more subtle.
I've done mine and yes it is much better but I've an annoying vibration at around 2,800 rpm. It's definitely engine related as I can feel it if I place a hand on the engine cases. Any idea's? or should I put the cat back in?
You should not get vibration with this pipe as all rubber mounted, It sounds like you may have not fitted the heat shield on its rubbers , try running with it off and if it still vibrates check all the exhaust mounting rubbers are fitted correctly, Most vibes come from the motor , exhaust don't tend to vibrate but they can transmit engine vibes to the frame if not rubber mounted correctly.
Heat shield fitted fine, and on its rubbers. However the larger rubber grommet in the front mount had split a short distance around its circumference. I'll replace it and hopefully that will resolve it. Many thanks for the swift feed back.
No need to in the UK as MOT test has no emission testing. not sure about the Spanish ITV though. if it is just a visual check you will be OK as it looks stock.
I am buying a Street Twin shortly, and wanting to add you slip-ons and x pipe. But I was wondering about warranty issues. Will these items void the factory warranty?
Technically it will void the warranty, but we supply these to many triumph main dealers for installation on new bikes. I would suggest you get your dealer to install it and it should not be a problem. We have not heard of any cases of dealers refusing warranty claims because of de cat pipes.
I notice the handle bars on the street twin are not the original one´s. They seem to be some Renthal ones maybe? I like the look of them on the bike and I´m looking to either find a way to rise the height of the stock handlebars or mount some higher one´s on my Street Twin. Not easy it seems, with the small slack on the cables. Can you tell me if, apart from the front brake nipple extension, clutch and front brake cables (witch I´m certain need to be lenghtened), any other cable needed lengthening to install those bars? Thank you.
Thank you for the quick reply. Glad all the cables have room for higher bars (from first inspection it does not seem like they would have enough slack). Will have to check how brake bleeding and the likes work - necessary when adding a nipple to the front brake line I believe. ABS brakes seem also a concern on this aspect. Maybe I should get that done on a Triumph dealer. If only I could get my hands on a handlebar riser which would lift the stock handlebars a little bit. I believe that could work well enough. Unfortunatly I don´t see any riser which might work (apart from the British Customs one´s which need to ship from USA). Thanks again. Really appreciate the help.
If you are careful you can bleed the brake at the joint with the master cylinder and no need to bleed the full system.I have done this many times without problem. To bleed the full system this must be done with dealer diagnostic tool to power the ABS pump and purge the system of air.
Thank you for the tips. Will have to check to see If I can find any videos regarding this "partial" bleeding you mencion. Just so I can get a better idea of how the procedure is done. Will analise this and if i find it to complicated I´ll have to install the brake nipple directly at the dealer. I´ve checked the Renthal website and I do believe the handlebars mounted on your demo Street Twin are the road model one´s. Do you mind teling me what is the model mounted on the bike? (road low/medium or high)? From what I have seen, it seems the low one´s do have more than enough rise compared to the stock handlebars. I just need a bit of a rise in the bars. Nothing to crazy. Thank you for any info regarding the handlebar model and the brake bleeding aspect of things. Really appreciate it.
Hi tec, Just purchased your X pipe. I'm a bit confused. Do I need a re-map on my 900 street cup or will the ecu adjust, or do you recommend this Booster plug. Also come MOT time will the bike fail the emmisions test?
I believe it is recommended to have a re map (getting mine done tomorrow). ECU will only self adjust on 1200 cc engines eg T120 & Thruxton. Currently in the UK at least, exhaust emissions tests are not part of MoT for bikes.
hi, im from brazil, i have one bobber black and i want put this x pipe, but if the stock mufflers, in this configuration just the x pipe i need reflash? appear any check light?
Hi Tec. Great video and thx for yours experience. Did you use K&N filter and If not can you wrote why? Coz i didnt find in yours videos that you change Air filter. I am on the way buy yours Silencers and X-Pipe for my Street Cup.
TEC Bike Parts , did you have to remove the snorkel part with a knife? Meaning, literally cutting it out from the end cap and smoothing out the edges? Thx much
Hi i have Street Cup. After montage x pipe and Tec 2-2 Street Cup Slip-On Stainless Silencers i need instaled new engine map in triumph? They have a map for it? What should i ask?
I would not recommend doing it that way as access is limited and the stock cat is a thick hefty lump, it is not as bad of a job as it looks to remove the frame tube
Hi ,Yes working on it now.I have built a de-cat pipe using the data we learnt from the street Twin .Now doing some testing with it results are really good.
Just like to say what you guys are doing at TEC is brilliant, well made parts at an affordable price! And British made,brings a tear to my eye god bless you all ! Amen
This is one of the few good things to come out of the Brexit fiasco, since the UK pound has tanked against the US$ . It is now easier and cheaper to make things in the UK as our labour prices are more competitive for export, and imports are more expensive. Our fastest growing markets are selling to India and far east. EVERY CLOUD.
Just today installed a TEC Bike Parts x-pipe on my Triumph T120. Very pleased! There's more sound. Not different, just more, and very pleasant. The bike has always had a very sensitive throttle, a little abrupt. This is gone. Throttle response is now VERY smooth. There's a little less engine braking available than there was, but not by much. There's still no decel pop. No engine remap was necessary. This X-pipe fits nicely with no "persuading", using the original seals and clamps. It doesn't hurt that this righteous little mod reduces the bike's weight by 4 lbs. Nicely done, gents!
it is supposed to improve performances too. Do you confirm ?
With no dyno access there's no way to confirm any performance increase. Certainly feels nice, though. Fuel economy is right where it was.
Could you do all the work on the centre stand?
I did, no problem.
Do you know if their TEC Slips ons from this video will fit the T120 ? ua-cam.com/video/2vCYI6vrIzo/v-deo.html&index=13&list=PLstsF6fI3SNLpQEV5VPnelrGk7n1_da3i
So, I just finished installing the Tec X-Pipe and man, what a difference! It sounds amazing, and the low speed throttle response is greatly improved. I could not be happier. I expected it to sound better, but I wasn't expecting the smooth throttle response. In my opinion it was worth it just for that alone. The deep rumbling sound is a bonus!
I also installed their bar-end mirrors. They look great, were a breeze to install, and they provide a better sight picture than the the stock mirrors, and you can't beat the price.
Two thumbs up for Tec Bike Parts. If you're in the market for a de-cat or some mirrors to jazz up your Triumph, I can definitely recommend these guys.
Wicked Coolname - Good to hear. Did you keep the stock silencers?
@@salskars6637 Yes. I'm still running the stock silencers. I think they sound fine, but I've never been crazy about the pea shooter looks, so I may buy some slip-ons one of these days just to improve the looks. But I have a bunch of other money to spend first. I'm looking at windscreens, passenger back rest, panniers, mini LED indicators, and a few other things. Plus, I need some new riding gear, like a summer mesh jacket and a jacket for the other 3 seasons, gloves, pants, etc..
If I'm not flat broke by then maybe I'll look I to some better looking pipes.
@@wickedcoolname399 - I'm with ya on that.
Reason I asked was to save $ with just the x-pipe for now. Thanks for the reply. Stay safe.
We fitted your TEC x-pipe-
It has totally transformed my street cup- sounds like a Triumph- goes like a triumph!
Hi there, installed BP, opened filter and DECAT/XPIPE on my TTR all parts from TEC. Have Shorties opened and the engine just thanked me. Sound brutal, engine response spot on and revs perfect. No hesitation to say pure joy ride. Ecu calibrated itself. Dont need more, done 100 km on known ride to compare and just go for it if U want to refresh your ride.
Thanks for the walkthrough. I didn't have as much free play in my frame and had to also loosen the other side, and disconnect the kickstand sensor. My clutch cable was also really tight. Eventually I worked the cat out, though, and the xpipe sounds great with my tec slip ons.
I bough a new harley in '14 when cats became mandatory. I took an angle grinder to a bike with 15miles on. Huge difference. I've seen many a pipes sliced since.
Just fitted the TEC X-Pipe to my T100 Bonnie.....in this vid the tank is not moved....got to be on my T100 as that top frame bolt is behind it.....also leaving the front pipes hanging is not an option.....as my pipes have long extension outer covers.
Had me scratching my head.
Test rode the bike....its great....love the sound....and goes great.....and the horrendous heavy engine braking is much improved....more normal feeling now.
My X-Pipe seems to be a modified version....with pressed upper and lower middle sections.
I ran my bike up onto 50mm thick lengths of wood....front and back.....makes access easier.....and I could get me head under the X-pipe to see to pesky back clamps.....I have a ctr stand.
Fitted the TEC x-pipe to my Speed Twin with Weslake Shorty Pro's today. Sounds awesome, looking forward to seeing what its like on a run.
Have also got the Tail tidy, Levers and DNA filter (snorkel removed) fitted. Highly recommend TEC bike parts, a huge thanks to the team.
I just fitted a TEC X-Pipe to T120. The procedure is similar. The main difference is the header pipes heat shield. It's in one piece which make alignment a shade trickier. Plus one of my rear cup clamps was a totally 2hat to get seated and clamped. The noise is nice but also my sear of pants dyno says more midrange. I didn't expect to 'feel' and difference. Did me a excellent modification.
Did you have your T120 remapped after your TEC Xpipe install and are you running the stock silencers? Thank you!
Installed x pipe and cans today....they sound great...my only struggle was top frame bolt but I manage to do the job without totally removing but slackened off...all else went perfect but had to buy 8mm Allen for rachet....weight difference is most obvious when riding...engine is sharper and reactive....long weekend ride needed now...thanks TEC team. (Luggage rack, Xpipe, End Cans....next maybe shocks and fork springs)
Glad to hear you are happy with them, and yes the frame top nut and bolt can be a pain till you are used to doing them
The x pop and the tech cans without db killer sounds epic!
Just bought from France One of these after the video at tec Shop
It convinced me and Sure my thruxtonR Will thank me !
A nice piece of engineering and very instructive video. Top marks.
just bought this X-pipe...yet to get it to India...it got shipped to Sutton...can't wait :)
Love the sound with the full set....
Luckily I just got my order in for your last Decat pipe... well happy.
Sounds great! I’ve just received my decat - I have to figure out if my J&S jack will be a suitable platform to do the job 🤞🏻 but can’t wait to hear and feel the difference in my Speedmaster!
The top and bottom frame bolts are 40nm, the exhaust header to head bolts are 19nm, but the frame to crankcase bolt is 105nm.
Just received my X pipe Decat, hope to follow the video while I tackle this job by myself. Hope I have all the tools to get it done.
Good God that sounds amazing!! Dammit, I need this kit for my T120 now!
Just put one on my 2017 T120 is does sound good. Not sure if the one for the US comes from different manufacturer, but fitment was not the greatest. Welds had to be ground down in side the pipe, does not slide all the way into the rubber mount on right side of bike, and had to grind down the heat shield to have it fit properly on without rubbing mounting bolts. For the price I would say it is pretty good, but hindsight I think I would spend the extra money on a Motone or one of better build quality.
Fitted this to my 2018 Speedmaster with the 1200HT engine today. It was a little more tricky, had to remove the footpeg bar as well. One thing I noticed, is the TEC x-pipe is 10mm narrower than the stock cat ONLY at the fixing points, so it sits across to the left by this much, being pulled away from the post on the right by the 2 fixing bolts on the left. It still works as it should though but had a bit of a battle getting the LHS header pipe on, had to widen it at the lower flange because of the slight angle change due to it's skewiffishness to the left, maybe it's by design to get it into place easier, or maybe I have a defectively manufactured unit, I don't know.
As others have said, more noise (louder and sounds less like a Superdream and more like a Triumph), smoother throttle from pulling away (or am I just getting used to the drive by wire), no noticeable changes otherwise.
You guys are awesome. Thanks for the informative videos.
Looks like a quality piece of kit, shame I don't have a new bike.
The torque is a function of exhaust scavenging, which the x-pipe crossover accomplishes.
But to get the air-fuel ratio where it should be especially after opening up the system, you need a power module and/or ECU reflash if you don't want to run lean and give the engine a slow death. You'll regain all the power and then some. Sound will also change with proper air-fuel ratios.
No, this is all tosh. It's an internet rumour that they run lean. By default the 1200s all run rich on acceleration, and stoich on cruise due to the O2 sensors in closed-loop mode. A PCV can be used to smooth out the delivery and adjust timing, but it's far from necessary.
And from dyno charts I have seen on the 1200cc, they never get close to stoich even on cruise. all this self learning talk makes me question this too. for an ECU to "self learn"or more properly put, adjust the A/F ratio across the entire throttle range, it needs sensor input. Unless the 1200cc twins have wide band Lambda sensors, I don't see any way for these ECUs to self learn. Narrow band sensors which unless i'm wrong are on the 1200cc bikes, (my Street Twin has narrow band sensors BTW), only micro manage the A/F from just below stoich to just above in closed loop. I am speculating, but I think all these bikes are so de-tuned low revving and run so rich from the factory, there is little danger of over leaning them. I would love to see hard data on the 900cc WC twins.
The self-learn stuff is all a bit of bollocks. They have trim values that self-adjust, but nothing like some internal AI unit that does mass-adjustments :)
They do all run perfectly at stoich on the dyno. Charts showing otherwise probably have dodgy gas analysers (which is not uncommon), but a narrowband O2 sensor forces it to be stoich unless they're faulty. What you say re below/above is absolutely correct, and the same on the 1200s, and they only ever run rich on acceleration.
Hi really struggling here to get the exhaust clamp on from the decat to the exhaust pipe under the bike the one that is 2 U Shapes with a hinge , any ideas please thanks
Fitted an x pipe to my thruxton r today,I'm not a mechanic but no mug either,but it took 4 1/2 hours but very fiddly nothing like the video,butwith a little perseverance and comprehensive tool kit you should be ok.
Did min on a paddock stand and laid on the floor,not ideal,was it worth it?......OH YES! The sound is just what I wanted running with a pair of straight through Vance and Hines!
Took me 5 hours on my T100 a few days ago David.
Your stuff is great quality and even better value. I have a T120 on order but am I right in saying they've welded the cat to the headers on the new models?
Hi Tec, 2 things I've noticed since fitting your X pipe on my 2016 Street Twin. 1. The sound is AWESOME!! 2. Blue smoke when I rev it. I didn't see any smoke in your video, from any of the pipe configuations. Is it normal to see some initially? (I'm still running the stock mufflers). Cheers in advance.
First upgrade on my new triumph speed twin
Oh hell yeah big difference I love that
Great aftermarket products you guys make & your videos are very well put together can I ask if you guys make a grab rail for the Speed Twin, keep up the great videos!! 👌🏻👍🏻
There are some more torque settings. And of course 105 Nm for the cradle to crankcase bolt.
Hi I’m wondering if you have one for the 2023 Speed Twin please
Cheers
Sounds great. You’re bringing some great items to market, keep up the good work. One question, at 54 seconds the bike fires almost instantly however after 17.37 it takes much longer to fire irrespective of which pipes are used. Any thoughts on why?
I can’t get enough room when loosen the frame to pull out the cat on my twin. What bolt am I missing? It seems to be about 85% of where it needs to be space wise…
Hi George, it was nice to receive my order. I’m almost done removing my stock exhaust (2023 Speed Twin 900), except for one thing. The exits from the CAT that are feeding the rears have no clamps like the fronts did. These appear to be welded in place. Options? Get out the sawzall ? Any ideas? Thank you.
I’m going to be doing this installation on a 2022 Street Twin. Are there any big differences between this and the 2022?
HMM I think maybe ill need one of these!
You opted for the Motone one did you not Stuart ?
Did you replace the head to front pipe joint crush gaskets?
Great vid George again xden
Can you install an x pipe on a T120 with it sitting on the centre stand?
interested too !
SatoriZei I can confirm that you can!
Hello! Love your parts! Will this procedure be the same for a 2021 Speed twin 1200? Also, what size tools are needed? Last, what torque values for all bolts? Keep up the great work! Thanks.
I bought this TEC Decat for my Bobber 2017 few days ago. I asked my Triumph mechanic for installing. So - more or less - how many working-hours are commonly needed to take off the original cat and install the new TEC's?
Brilliant!
Hi do I need to buy new gasgets thruxton r thanks.
When sTesting the exhaust pipes the bike started right up ,after putting the X pipe on ,the bike didn't start right up when testing the pipes ?
After slackening the header pipes should I replace the copper washers?
Same process for the Speed Twin and Thruxton? I'm not mechanically inclined
basically the same except, you need to loosen the tank rear mount and slide it back a couple of inches, (no need to disconnect anything) to get access to frame rail top bolt.
Best to remove the front pipes fully because of balance pipe , and easier to reinstall if you fit both front pipes at once . so a helper is good for that stage.
@@TECBikeParts thank you!
Wow! Thanks for this awesome video. So with this method, you don't have to mess with that big Torx bolt like everyone talks about? Also, does TEC offer a military discount?
Hi
Yes we are always ready to help those serving in our forces and blue light services. As well as genuine Bike club members, just give us a call with what you require and we will do our best to help.
Got my decap from you all, planning on working on it tomorrow til finished.
One quick question, with my 16 Thruxton R can I just loose the head pipes, and remove the silencers, or follow the steps as in your T120 example?
Thanks in advance, let the adventure begin
JoeM
Which handlebar is that? Can you please provide the details. Does it require any cable modifications? Thanks
Is there a torque on the exhaust clamps and the radiator bolt , also the frame bolts do you use blue thread locker ?
saw on some of your other vids a decat x pipe for the scrambler but again i do not see this item on your shop site
but don't you have to put it back to original for the emissions bit of the MoT test ??
Could you make an exhaust for the triumph rocket 3? Thx
Impressive. When you say the new Bonneville, would the X Pipe fit on a T120?
Loving your front & rear progressive suspension on mine, btw!
Yes will fit T120 1200cc
I've just bought a 12 month old Speed Twin with the TEC decat and Vance and Hines. It pops one hell of a lot on deceleration/throttle release and also a single pop when the clutch is pulled to change gear. Is this normal or is there possibly an issue with the install? I sort of like it but it is a bit excessive. I'll considering reverting to the cat. I bought it as it is loaded with almost every other TEC part too! Beautiful! Any help/advice gratefully received.
I bet one of the 2 piece clamps is not seated correctly......what a fiddle.....can look like it on ok.....but may not be....I have heard some pop....mine doesn't I am glad to say.
Saying that I am still on factory pipes.
Regarding the restrictive camshaft Triumph fitted to their Street Scrambler - would they fit the same camshaft to Export versions they send to Australia? England has A2, we have a similar restriction called LAMS or such. Can't believe people with P plates would be thinking about a 900cc bike.
yes same cam fitted in all markets
Any idea what sort of performance gains you can get with these
George mentions the X-decat relative gain in the clip on the T100 Cams:"How to de- restrict 900cc Triumph Street Twin/Cup/Scrambler/T100"ua-cam.com/video/hRk6x_u3mBI/v-deo.html
Three things: First, why did it seem like the bike didn't want to start on the first try after fitting the X-Pipe and each subsequent set of cans? Second, would you consider doing an install video for the 1200cc Speed Twin? Unless, the process is absolutely identical. Third, do you absolutely recommend the installation of a "booster plug" with this mod, when sticking with the stock cans and baffles? I've seen where some users have said they didn't need it. However, if these bikes run as lean as they're supposed to, in order to pass Euro 4 and/or Euro 5 regs, I don't see how that's possible.
Thanks, George! I think this is going to be the first "performance mod" I do to my girlfriend's 2019 Speed Twin!
speed twin is basically the same but like the thruxton and t120 you need to loosen the rear tank mount and pull tank back slightly to gain access to the top R/H frame rail bolt, no need to remove tank or fuel pipes etc.
Also easier if you remove the full exhaust off the bike and best to have help when re fitting the front pipes as easier to fit both front pipes together.
Re booster plug, it is not essential to fit one and the bike will run safe with a TEC decat fitted on stock ECU tune .We have done lots of testing to check this on all water cooled twin models. What you find on all stock out of the showroom Euro 4 models is that you have a lumpy throttle response with quite a noticeable lag when coming back on the throttle from fully closed. The TEC de cat pipe helps to reduce this and the booster plug will also help with this by giving a richer mixture during acceleration. Combined they make a big difference to the way the bike rides and makes it much smoother and crisper during acceleration.
so this is road legal in the UK?
I have bought the x-pipe from your website. Can I use these instructions for the 2017 Bonneville Bobber?
Yes basically the same you just need to remove the silencer and front pipes
TEC Bike Parts, Thank you!
I'm wanting to do the TEC X Pipe on my Thruxton R (2016) along with VH slip on, is it necessary to flash the ecu also, or remap the air and gas to the cyclinders? Is this something I can do from my laptop, along with some kind of download, or must it be from a dealer?
thank you
I've enjoyed all the vid and found them very informative
Hi
No remap available for the 1200cc motors available from Triumph or any other source at the moment. We have done lots of dyno testing and the bike will run safe and OK with the de cat and straight through type silencers.
However the engine will be more responsive and will run better with a fuel enrichment system fitted.
You can use a Power commander, but this is a bit of over kill as a Booster plug device will work great and does not need any programming.
We can supply both the Booster plug or a Power Commander V system.
The Booster plug is straight plug in ,it takes about 5 mins to DIY install and costs £119.99 from us.
see www.boosterplug.com
The Dynojet power commander V starts from around £380.00 plus installation and programming. Price of the Power commander depending on what options/add on's you require , but you only really need this if you are going to fit a race cam.
see www.dynojet.com
any plans to make a relocation bracket for the rear brake?
With the X-pipe addition and a flow through silencers will that require a remap? Thank you.
No
Hi guys, I bought the x-pipe and tried to install it on my 2018 T120. It didn’t fit right and upon closer look, I noticed that the pipe connections are shorter than on the cat and the hanger on the front end on the unit was welded crooked. So, if I connect the pipes evenly, it doesn’t reach the hanging bolts or if I hang the x-pipe on the bolts, the pipes on the right side barely connect to the unit. Unfortunately, costumer support is MIA this time. Bummer. I’ve purchased other products with great satisfaction in the past.
Hi
Very unusual to have any problems with fit on these as made on a very tight jig, but it is possible for some small distortion can occur from welding . Are you in UK or USA. If in the UK you can call or email us and we can talk you through any fitting issues. At TEC we always stand by our products with full no quibble warranty and after sales back up
Thanks for your prompt response. I’m in the US. I sent support an email with a couple of pictures.
As I said in my message, I’ve purchased other products in the past (levers and mirrors) and the quality and customer support has always been superb.
Thanks.
Hi guys, I did get a new unit. Thank you so much for your assistance. I just shipped the old unit back.
Best,
Dear Sir,
Thank u for the Wonderful Videos & Tutorials u keep posting, wish your TEC parts could easily be possible to all the way in India, anyways for now i shall be grateful if u could guide me, i see a higher risen Handle bar on the Street Twin in the video above, it ain't Stock..i am facing a lot of discomfort while riding.. my body weight falls on my palms... i did try adding one inch spacers below the the stock handle riser, helped to a small degree but yet not comfortable, the riding position too is backward foot, seat pan slipping down a la sports.. the ride puts pressure on my hands , back and the rears.. basically the bike falls a bit short for my height too.. i come from the upright riding position of the Royal Enfield Classics.. tried changing the handle bars but the cables fall short.. pls care to advise me a solution on the same.
Thanks , Warm Regards
Arsh JaiKrishan
Hi
yes I had the same problem,slight rise on the bars make bike much nicer to ride.we will soon be making a fat bar conversion kit with several bar options for the street twin and all other bonnie models.
I have just got a new street scrambler to evaluate and one of the first things I noticed on the bike is the slightly raised bars and the huge difference to feel they make.
Why would you Rev it before it adjusts
Can you please verify the torque settings? I have seen different torque setting suggested on other x-pipe videos and I am unable to find a service manual. Thanks!
Any chance of a follow up vid to cover the link pipe as fitted to the Thruxton and Speed Twin ?
Best way with link pipe is to have an assistant so you can slide both front pipes on together.
good afternoon this handlebar is original thanks
the handlebar is more height where to get
It has that distinctive muscle car v8 growl you won't find originally in a bike.
Hello, Very informative video, thanks! Question: does your X-pipe de-cat lessen engine braking after installation on the T120? I ride a lot in the hills. Thanks!
It does on my T100.....which to me is a good thing.....engine braking was far to much for me with the cat.....it feels more like the engine braking I am used to now....still there but more subtle.
I've done mine and yes it is much better but I've an annoying vibration at around 2,800 rpm. It's definitely engine related as I can feel it if I place a hand on the engine cases. Any idea's? or should I put the cat back in?
You should not get vibration with this pipe as all rubber mounted, It sounds like you may have not fitted the heat shield on its rubbers , try running with it off and if it still vibrates check all the exhaust mounting rubbers are fitted correctly, Most vibes come from the motor , exhaust don't tend to vibrate but they can transmit engine vibes to the frame if not rubber mounted correctly.
Heat shield fitted fine, and on its rubbers. However the larger rubber grommet in the front mount had split a short distance around its circumference. I'll replace it and hopefully that will resolve it. Many thanks for the swift feed back.
Can you give before & after DB readings?
Does the standard cross pipe need to go back on for the mot, in Spain or here in the uk, thanks
No need to in the UK as MOT test has no emission testing. not sure about the Spanish ITV though. if it is just a visual check you will be OK as it looks stock.
I am buying a Street Twin shortly, and wanting to add you slip-ons and x pipe. But I was wondering about warranty issues. Will these items void the factory warranty?
Technically it will void the warranty, but we supply these to many triumph main dealers for installation on new bikes.
I would suggest you get your dealer to install it and it should not be a problem.
We have not heard of any cases of dealers refusing warranty claims because of de cat pipes.
I notice the handle bars on the street twin are not the original one´s. They seem to be some Renthal ones maybe? I like the look of them on the bike and I´m looking to either find a way to rise the height of the stock handlebars or mount some higher one´s on my Street Twin. Not easy it seems, with the small slack on the cables.
Can you tell me if, apart from the front brake nipple extension, clutch and front brake cables (witch I´m certain need to be lenghtened), any other cable needed lengthening to install those bars?
Thank you.
Hi
the only part that needs to be lengthened to fit these higher bars is the brake pipe, as you can see i made an extension,all cables are stock
Thank you for the quick reply. Glad all the cables have room for higher bars (from first inspection it does not seem like they would have enough slack).
Will have to check how brake bleeding and the likes work - necessary when adding a nipple to the front brake line I believe. ABS brakes seem also a concern on this aspect. Maybe I should get that done on a Triumph dealer.
If only I could get my hands on a handlebar riser which would lift the stock handlebars a little bit. I believe that could work well enough. Unfortunatly I don´t see any riser which might work (apart from the British Customs one´s which need to ship from USA).
Thanks again. Really appreciate the help.
If you are careful you can bleed the brake at the joint with the master cylinder and no need to bleed the full system.I have done this many times without problem.
To bleed the full system this must be done with dealer diagnostic tool to power the ABS pump and purge the system of air.
Thank you for the tips. Will have to check to see If I can find any videos regarding this "partial" bleeding you mencion. Just so I can get a better idea of how the procedure is done. Will analise this and if i find it to complicated I´ll have to install the brake nipple directly at the dealer.
I´ve checked the Renthal website and I do believe the handlebars mounted on your demo Street Twin are the road model one´s. Do you mind teling me what is the model mounted on the bike? (road low/medium or high)? From what I have seen, it seems the low one´s do have more than enough rise compared to the stock handlebars. I just need a bit of a rise in the bars. Nothing to crazy.
Thank you for any info regarding the handlebar model and the brake bleeding aspect of things. Really appreciate it.
Hello, I am interested in installing tec x pipe for my motorcycle, it is Euro 5 with the rear exits welded, what can I do, does this have a solution?
We make big bore front pipes that will decat the bike and look a lot better too
Which handle bar is that ?
maybe a stupid question, but do you use unleaded petrol after installing the de-cat?
you can only buy unleaded petrol !
Is there any fuel adjustment needed?
No the stock ECU tune works great and if anything runs even better
Hi tec,
Just purchased your X pipe. I'm a bit confused. Do I need a re-map on my 900 street cup or will the ecu adjust, or do you recommend this Booster plug. Also come MOT time will the bike fail the emmisions test?
I believe it is recommended to have a re map (getting mine done tomorrow). ECU will only self adjust on 1200 cc engines eg T120 & Thruxton. Currently in the UK at least, exhaust emissions tests are not part of MoT for bikes.
No need to remap, in the UK no MOT requirement for a CAT and no emission testing on motorcycles
hi, im from brazil, i have one bobber black and i want put this x pipe, but if the stock mufflers, in this configuration just the x pipe i need reflash? appear any check light?
Yes this will work great with stock can s and no need to re flash ECU
tank you
Can it get any quieter?
What handlebars are on that bike please?
thanks alot I need 3 pieces ;)
Hi Tec. Great video and thx for yours experience. Did you use K&N filter and If not can you wrote why? Coz i didnt find in yours videos that you change Air filter. I am on the way buy yours Silencers and X-Pipe for my Street Cup.
Hi
I normally use a hi flow air filter and most important remove the intake snorkel from the airbox as very restrictive
TEC Bike Parts , did you have to remove the snorkel part with a knife? Meaning, literally cutting it out from the end cap and smoothing out the edges? Thx much
Just remove 1 x screw and pull out
Hi i have Street Cup. After montage x pipe and Tec 2-2 Street Cup Slip-On Stainless Silencers i need instaled new engine map in triumph? They have a map for it? What should i ask?
Hi
you need them to install the Vance and Hines 2-1 off road map
What is the "updated"map you are referring to? Is it available outside the UK?
Vance and Hines 2-1 off road map,and is available in most countries
Great , can I fit one to my T120 and for some reason cannot find the part in the TEC online catalogue ? I expect I am at fault can you help please ? J
John Crispin Yes they fit all the new water-cooled engines except for the new Scrambler.
Can the cat just be cut out with a reciprocating saw and leave the frame intact?
Thanks
I would not recommend doing it that way as access is limited and the stock cat is a thick hefty lump, it is not as bad of a job as it looks to remove the frame tube
Any plans for parts to release 30% more power in the 1200 as in thd 900
not as easy on the 1200 as running a lot closer to design output than the 900 bikes
Is there room to do all this with one of your centre stands fitted?
yes far easier with the stand fitted
Do you have any plans for a replacement pipe for the new street scrambler cat? Any suggestions?
Hi
,Yes working on it now.I have built a de-cat pipe using the data we learnt from the street Twin .Now doing some testing with it results are really good.
Nice... I'm looking forward to it.
Will these be available for the USA guys across the pond? I didn't see them on the USA site.
yes available in the US site now for all states except California
I am here in California. Does the state prohibit sales or do you choose not to sell to California?
we have them in the USA, but we will not sell to California due to law
Why are the exhaust routed like that split up like that why aren't they straight ???
20:14.