Ultimate Black Panther Lives Up To The Hype
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- Опубліковано 11 лют 2024
- Marvel Comics new Ultimate Universe added its second title this week. Ultimate Black Panther from Bryan Hill and Stefano Caselli had a high bar to clear after Ultimate Spider-Man got the entire comic book fandom talking. Luckily for Marvel, Black Panther lives up to the Spider-Man hype. Wes and Dok review Ultimate Black Panther #1 and explain what Marvel changes. Black Panther lives up to the Ultimate Spider-Man hype.
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As a Black Panther fan, I feel we're gonna get a T'Challa that won't be downgraded to fit some misandric view of characters that exists in comics now. That's how he's been portrayed in the 616 since Coates's run.
I loved it just as much as Ultimate Spider-man. Let's not forget this is not the same ultimate universe (1610), this is a new ultimate universe (6160) aka Ultimate universe II.
I'm absolutely loving Hickman's Ultimate Universe so far, both ongoings started off to my expectations and I'm looking forward to what comes next.
I just hope Hickman doesn’t get ruined by editorials and talentless co-writers like X-Men.
Thought it was a solid book. Great art. Let's see what happens.
Let's see what happens. Wise words for any current day release across any form of entertianment thesedays. I wait till something is done. Corporate have killed any chance of hype with low effort shitty products.
I might go pick it up, Bryan Hill's Killmonger book was pretty great. He's one of the only three writers I liked on the Black Panther characters.
Who are the another two? Christopher Priest is the best BP writer to me.
@@EvandroACruz Priest, and I really liked his characterization in Johnathan Hickman's Avengers run. I thought he really dealt with the spiritual dimension of T'Challa's role as Black Panther.
Hooray for a potentially good black character in the ultimate universe
I don't read Ultimate Black panther yet but seeing this video the book is very promising. Cool to see T'Chaka's death being very similar to your MCU counterpart. This new Ultimate Universe started strong and with the right foot.
It was really good. It reminded me of Vikings a lil bit with the vodu khan. I will definitely be reading the next few.
I expected a lot less for this book and am pleasantly surprised. Pretty enjoyable #1.
I say besides the threat and TChaka dying. You could really port this into 616 and be writing TChalla and Wakanda like this. It’s good and less a departure compared to 616 Spidey.
100% true.
It was really good. The Ultimate books have been surprisingly good.
I actually used to read Black Panther and Moon Knight back in the day, i enjoyed both of them ill be interested to see how this goes going forward. There is always a chance given that this is Marvel it will be destroyed, but as with Spiderman, it has potential.
I hope the New Ultimate Spider-Man and Black Panther books continue to be so Good❤❤❤
I know I want them to over-take the main 616 variants so hopefully there’s a slight chance that the writers change when they are writing with 616 because it’s a mess currently in that universe and it’s sad to see my favorite comic character (spider man and Tchalla) getting disrespected especially in the main universe
I thought this was a great start, and the title has a ton of potential. I really enjoy the world-building of this new Ultimate Universe with each continent being controlled by a villainous entity. This issue managed to get me interested in seeing Wakanda going against Ra and Khonshu, as well as Killmonger and Storm doing their own strikes against Moon Knight.
I still think Ultimate Spider-Man is better, but I may be biased since Spider-Man is my favourite character and having him being a dad with kids is an easy sell for me.
I think Spider-man is just has more of the "this is something new" feel to it, wheras Black Panther is a great Black Panther story, but one that we have seen before
Thought it was MID as f*ck. But thats the times we live in. Mid is considered great now. Gem Mint did a good review talking about how it doesnt hold a candle to Christopher Preists run. Also i guarantee a major bait and switch incoming with Ultimate Spiderman. There is no way that Marvel will allow a DEI/ESG free storyline in 2024, just no way.
Any thoughts on Eve Ewing's run on Black Panther? She did an Ironheart series awhile back and is now on main black panther title.
It's dragging a bit for me, but I'm sticking with it for now.
So I missed out on reading this one as New England Comics was sold out. However from what I am hearing here this is a really good first issue. All the characters seem to feel right. The artwork is solid and well paced. You've got some lovely differences from the main line Marvel Universe with Wakanda and the Black Panther too. Yet it seems like pulling teeth here to get our hosts to give it a positive recommendation. Not sure why. I get the impression you would want to get this before it sells out in your area of the world. Everyone seems to be looking forward to the next issue, so that is half the battle. FOUR OUT OF FIVE? That's nearly a A to A+ for the issue. That is something you definitely go out and buy. WTF20.
I remember the original ultimate universe that started off so hot. Everyone went so crazy for this. Then the original writers left and the comics had as much of a lasting impact as a fart in a hurricane.
Same with krakoa
It was garbage from the start. Started off hot cause of the promotion and promise of a more "realistic" world, which turned out to be a lie.
@@dimitrijetucovic1307 realistic like more close to the year 2000 maybe. I think they shifted the setting of the origin stories to be more contemporary. For example the x men origin with 2000 technology and timeline. It was more contemporary origin stories imo than any thing else
I just hope they don’t mess up this line, they’ve got a great chance here to give us something the fans want. We have the regular universe for all the “modern audience” drek, let’s hope it doesn’t seep into this universe.
I hope so too, the remaining fans would have earned something for once. But honestly? No trust from my side, will definitely wait for way, way more issues before considering to give it a chance.
Lol you really think Marvel's gonna make this line for everyone 🤣
I never read Black Panther comics. I only knew him as Storm’s husband and whatever he was like in the MCU.
I think someone said "Vodu-Khan" is a very old idea used only once or less than a handful of time and may have been for another character but I'm not sure
I loved ultimate black panther it was really good in my opinion
Awesome work guys
At least they made him look masculine. Not like the way that they made him look in that 2006 animated motion picture Ultimate Avengers 2: Rise Of The Black Panther. Lol! He looked as fruity as a bowl of Fruity Pebbles, lol! 😂 At least in this comic book Ultimate Black Panther still looks like he has some machismo. But who knows what the future holds, right? For all we know, this version of King T'Challa of the Royal Kingdom of Wakanda might be sweet as fuck just as well. The D.E.I./E.S.G. is so real that he just might be as sweet as a whole ocean of Kool-Aid. 🤣
I thought this comic was pretty good, personally. The art was great and the story was pretty decent. It did seem like it was missing something but I guess it was done on purpose to intice the reader to get issue #2. It was better than Ultimate Spiderman #1 in my opinion
The Ultimate Black Panther was better than Ultimate Spider-Man
I ordered a ton of issue #3 hopefully people keep reading! :)
This looks awesome, just like Ultimate Spider-Man. So much potential, especially if they can keep this corner of Marvel quarantined from the bad actors and political activists that have ruined so much of 616
I liked it but for $6.99 I expected more.
Main problem not how good it is, but rather for how long it can stay good, 5 issues? soon greedy marvel gonna put bad artist and writer on it.
What i dont understand is why moon knight is attackjbg Wakanda? That must be a universe specific thing.
If u would have read Ultimate Universe # 1 The Maker has a Council Of Villians that secretly run their own countries Moon Knight is Africa 👍
@@frankygonzales15 ah ok I have not read it yet, like I Said I read black panther and Moon Knight years ago and I really enjoyed them. I have had a hard time finding thrm as a lot of comic shops near me have gone out of buisness. I'll find them sooner or later though.
His character is not perfect so he can grow to become a better human and hero... will they have real character development in this series?! 😮
I hope storm and tchalla get together
Get the feeling that Marvel finally realise they've destroyed the 616/Prime continuity so much that this Ultimate line is their New 52 style relaunch?
Didn't liked how this issue visually portrayed Wakanda - just a lot of generic skyscrapers and thats all. Really hope in the future we will see more of afrofuturistic aesthetic!
IDK they might be able to touch on that. Like how technological developments has led to an abandoning of traditional culture, similarly to Japan is some ways. Like they're could be people wishing to destroy technocratic systems and return to a more spiritual wakanda
The Ultimate Invasion miniseries and the subsequent Ultimate Universe one-shot were really exciting and promising, but everything that's come out since then has failed to impress me. This issue is not the exception.
It seems like the best artwork Marvel has to offer right now is in the Ultimate Universe, but I can't say the same for the stories.
I don't get the point of this particular book.
Supposedly, in this universe the Maker build, he deprived the Marvel heroes from the circumstances that created them, their origins, so that they would no longer represent a threat to his designs, Tony Stark found out about it and now he is doing the impossible to fix what the Maker did and retrieve the original destiny of this universe.
That's the whole concept behind this new line of comics, but here it seems like the Maker did nothing to prevent T'Challa from becoming the Black Panther and protector of Wakanda.
It doesn't make sense.
In Earth-616, T'Challa is the leader of a world power with advanced technology, an Avenger and a member of the Illuminati, the Maker should have considered him one of the major potential threats to his reality, but the T'Challa of Earth-6160 is not only alive, he is not imprisoned, he is already king of Wakanda and the Black Panther, and Wakanda is still a secret nation.
Why did the Maker allow this?
It doesn't look like Tony Stark already helped T'Challa.
The Maker is on the cover of the next issue so maybe there will be an explanation for the plot hole but I don't know, and that leads me to my other problem with this comic:
I don't want to wait until the sixth issue to see if I like the story, the first issue, the first chapter, should be the one that sells me the series, instead this made me go like "Well, maybe this will lead to something interesting", I hate that feeling. These books are not cheap.
So once again, they have given Shuri T'Challa's intellect, where he has the intellect of an average man smh. One of the things I loved about T'Challa was his intellect, where he was one of the top 10 intellects of the Marvel Universe, then the movie happened. Loved the 1st movie, but that was my biggest issue from the movie, then surprise surprise, it transferred over to the comics. Where all of a sudden Shuri is a genius and T'Challa isn't.
So he's not a mute?
What is worse: All-Star Batman or ultimate captain America ?
Both are shitty versions of these characters. I hate Millerverse Batman but I despise Ultimate Captain America.
At least ultimate captain America’s timeline is consistent whereas all-star Batman’s is so confusing. How can the dark knight returns take place in the same universe with all star Batman and robin although it is literally impossible.
🤔What's so bad about Ultimate Captain America? From what I read I thought he was pretty good
@@scinnyc He's cynical murderous jerkass. A shame to the true Steve Rogers.
Wasn't Ultimate Captain America never frozen in a state of true suspended animation and he continued to be Captain America ever since the 1940s? If he was Captain America for well over 80 years, then I think that him being a much more bitter, cynical, and hardened version of Steve Rogers makes a lot more sense. The reason why Steve Rogers from Earth-616 is still so optimistic and not as pessimistic as Nick Fury is is because he was frozen ever since the year 1945 and didn't see the decline of Western civilization, and the corruption of American society over the decades after the mid-1940s. Ultimate Captain America having a personality that is not being jaded, sullen and withdrawn because he has seen too much over the years, despite being the capable, confident and cool leader of the Ultimates super hero team would just seem to be way too unrealistic. @@EvandroACruz
The Good Timeline: No the Marvel Ultimate Universe 2: *OH GOD! PLEASE COME BACK! WE'RE SORRY!!!* is...actually sincere and STAYS That way. For the REST of the Decade before Namor, The Android Human Torch and Captain America become Public Domain and join Steamboat Willie on his Steamboat Ride with all of the Horrors, Thrills, Spills, Chills, and laughter that comes with it!
The BAD Timeline: This is the only book allowed to stave off the 'Social Justice Infection' (albeit for the longest period of time because of its Black Main Character Superhero) as it SLOWLY Consumes the Rest of the Line when the word gets out that 'It's ACTUALLY GOOD' and making money. Before the Rainbow Haired Freaks get to it too and want an 'Ultimate Shuuri' to become the Black Panther in THIS Universe Too! And Steamboat Willie will STILL Come in a Decade to Take Namor, The Android Human Torch, and Steve Rodgers away from this long Nightmare in the Nuthouse of Ideas. And the wait will just be more Painful to suffer before the Sundowning.
This is your Company staring down inevitability. Note the Impossible to Change Event No Matter what they do.
I see that that certain head half shaven and hair brushed over hairdo has made its way into this universe. I'm not going to make an outrageous claim, but that's a warning sign in my eyes. It's not very "Wakandian", and a tiresome trend usually follows when you see it... 😒
Lost me when you Said Storm was married to Killmonger, while Storm never worked in Black Panther in my opinion, this is just hundred times worse.
Mediocre. I’m hopeful. My favorite runs are Don Mcgregor and Christopher Priest. This has me worried already because all of these Marvel books seem immune to the action and fantasy side of comics. Let’s not forget that Stan Lee and Jack KIRBY created Wakanda and there’s so many facets for them to explore. Unfortunately these writers always try to force this Game of Thrones atmosphere which is easy to do and even necessary but it shouldn’t be at the cost of pure comic book fun and superhero spectacle.
7½/10
Why was T'Challa already king of Wakanda if his father was still alive? What kind of monarchy is that?
Also, what was the writer trying to tell me with the dialogue between T'Challa and Okoye at the beginning?
He, the King, doesn't want his wife, the Queen, to call him "My King" because they "are equals"... What?!
What does one thing have to do with the other?
If I was a King I would like it if my wife called me "My King" and I would call her "My Queen".
I don't get it.
Okoye looked very sad when she was talking about how the people traditionally would see her as less important than the King (a weird topic to discuss in the morning, if you ask me)... was she complaining about... THE PATRIARCHY???
"Traditions must change"
Whoa! That came out of nowhere.
I don't like the agenda I'm seeing there.
Anyway, if T'Challa and Okoye are married, why do they sleep in separate beds?
I also don't like Okoye's haircut, that's not the look of a Queen, if she had her head completely shaved that would be better and more ceremonial than that haircut.
What kind of Monarchy in which former King still alive and replaced by his son?
Man, you need to see a bigger world!
It is possible for a King to abdicate early before his 'time'. That's because he feels no longer able to fulfill his duty due to old age or severe illness.
Emperor abdication happen in Japan, only recently.
Emperor Akihito abdicate because of old age and his son, crown prince Naruhito became new Emperor of Japan.
Is he a redhead?
i REALLY liked this.
i too woulda liked to see Tchaka hang about a bit longer as i liked the father son dynamic and ive a few niggles about stuff said in it (after seeing HE MAN abandon the aristocracy in his netflix series im kinda sick of kings NOT acting like kings or disrespecting their heritage- and i say this as an Irishman who's ancestors kicked one out for a republic! :D )
if your gonna portray a kingdom like wakanda then lean the hell into it and fully illustrate the differences between it and place like the US, and stop trying to turn it INTO it.
how the war is handled is gonna be the tipping point for me but right now theres some GREAT potential here.
i just hope they can keep out the "current daying"