Marvel Comics Severely F**ked X-Men Reboot

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  • Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
  • Marvel Comics are fleshing out details surrounding their next X-Men reboot, 'From The Ashes'. Tom Brevoort and C.B. Cebulski named creative teams and titles for 3 new flagship books and several others to follow. While there are several promising details, especially the artists on-board, many details leave a lot to be desired. Wes breaks down the new X-Men titles and creators and explains why this isn't the relaunch most X-Men fans wanted. Marvel Comics severely screwed X-Men reboot.
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  • @ComicsExposed
    @ComicsExposed 6 місяців тому +18

    CONSIDER ME...UNDERWHELMED.
    00:00 - X-Men Reboot Details Revealed
    00:46 - New X-Men Titles Launching
    01:30 - Artists On Marvel X-Men Books
    02:11 - Talent In Marvel Illustration
    02:50 - The Fractured X-Men
    03:30 - The Future Of The X-Men Comics
    04:11 - Excessive Number Of Titles
    04:49 - Delivering Without True Focus
    05:33 - The X-Men Book Led By Cyclops
    06:21 - Too Much On This Man's Plate
    07:06 - Analysis Of X-Men Team Lineup
    07:50 - Bringing Back The Villainous Characters
    08:32 - Outlaw Heroes In The Big Easy New Orleans
    09:17 - Gail Simone's Relevance In The Comic Book Industry
    09:56 - Comparison Of Comic Book Writers
    10:34 - The Potential Of Rebooting X-Men
    11:15 - The Doubtful Future Of Kate Ewing's Comic Series
    12:01 - The Challenges Of Introducing New X-Men Heroes
    12:50 - Offensive Designs And Misrepresentation
    13:33 - Cancellation And Launch Strategy
    14:16 - Rumors About The New Wolverine Comic
    15:02 - Choosing Writers For X-Men Titles
    15:42 - Moving X-Men Writers To Avengers Characters
    16:27 - Comic Book Coverage
    17:03 - Fun Stuff

    • @jeromemaida4933
      @jeromemaida4933 6 місяців тому +3

      Fantastic video, Wes! So much I agree with you on! But one of the best is that KATE PRYDE makes me absolutely CRINGE! It's KITTY! KITTY!

    • @trealsteve
      @trealsteve 6 місяців тому +3

      @@jeromemaida4933It’s like they don’t understand the character or X-Men for that matter. 🤔

    • @NickeyWilson316
      @NickeyWilson316 6 місяців тому

      Log this guy under *Very Bad Azz* thank you this was awesome

  • @InfamyOrDeath-__-
    @InfamyOrDeath-__- 6 місяців тому +117

    I’ve no idea how anyone actually believed this reboot was going to be good, was the entire upper echelons of the company just fired? No? Did they suddenly bring in top new writers and get rid of all the terrible ones? No? Then how on earth was anything going to change? All they did was shuffle around all the dead weight and nothing has changed, so it’s going to be more of the same.

    • @MaverickhunterXZero
      @MaverickhunterXZero 6 місяців тому +2

      Sadly. They either suffer from Stockholm Syndrome or want stuff like X-men to fail to then sell their _Unwoke_ alternative. Since they hardly every spoke about it, unless it was to parrot how X-men was about civil rights, when they only link to BBC saying it, instead of showing it in the comics.

    • @deepfriedokra
      @deepfriedokra 6 місяців тому +14

      I wonder this all the time when I watch these UA-cam channels keep getting hope for new things coming out of DC and Marvel

    • @illithidlore
      @illithidlore 6 місяців тому +12

      From what I heard Marvel actually did approach almost every big name you can think of and everyone turned them down.

    • @zemox2534
      @zemox2534 6 місяців тому +2

      ​@deepfriedokra Without hope, you won't get anywhere? Is it so wrong to hope for something better?

    • @trealsteve
      @trealsteve 6 місяців тому +2

      @@illithidloreProbably because they see the writing on the wall from how they undermined Hickman. Plus they could’ve low balled them.

  • @inviiinciiible
    @inviiinciiible 6 місяців тому +15

    at least I have wolverine by capullo to look forward to. hopefully it's donny cates or pkj

  • @aliturk6692
    @aliturk6692 6 місяців тому +3

    why oh why do they have to do my X-men dirty, they had so much potential with the House of X/Powers of x but then they went and shot themselves in the foot.

    • @EvandroACruz
      @EvandroACruz 6 місяців тому +1

      The X symbol become a tainted thing right now. I don't see they like heroes again.

  • @01pemon
    @01pemon 5 місяців тому

    Por que Cyclops está en un cuerpo más joven ?
    O es simplemente diseño de dibujo?

  • @andrewtaylor940
    @andrewtaylor940 6 місяців тому +1

    Yeah, not seeing anything here that will bring me back. I mean it looks better than Krakoa Krap. But still not better enough to get me to give them my money. Marvel broke the habit. They broke the addiction for a lot of us. It will take something truly amazing to bring us back. And they're never going to win over the manga crowd at this point. They just dont know how. And that "Living WIth DIabetes" Panel line up at SXSW sure is shit isn't going to do it.

  • @mikehunt1924
    @mikehunt1924 6 місяців тому +67

    I'd be more surprised if Marvel didn't shit the bed with everything they do.

    • @thebigone1122
      @thebigone1122 6 місяців тому +2

      They are, specifically from the 90s when Marvel animated shows that were good.

  • @matts6607
    @matts6607 6 місяців тому +61

    can't wait to save money not buying this.

    • @troyforce2
      @troyforce2 6 місяців тому +4

      😂😂😂😂 I agree.

    • @trealsteve
      @trealsteve 6 місяців тому +2

      Same.

    • @solblackguy
      @solblackguy 6 місяців тому

      Disney+ is usually free with phone plans, cable, or any type of media service in a package deal. I don't know what's more embarrassing: you lying that you're going to cancel something you already have for free or that you actually pay for something you should be getting for free.

    • @matts6607
      @matts6607 6 місяців тому

      @solblackguy I do know what is more embarrassing, you posting that Marvel is putting this comic on streaming lmfao this was about the xmen comics you fucking moron lmfao

    • @matts6607
      @matts6607 6 місяців тому

      @@solblackguy the embarrassing part is all on you for assuming we were talking about the xmen cartoon show WHEN all of us are talking about COMIC BOOKS lmfao, what a moron you are.

  • @miptias
    @miptias 6 місяців тому +49

    Gail not being signed up for the long run is not a bad thing but she's also known to be super super lazy so.

    • @deadpilled2942
      @deadpilled2942 6 місяців тому +7

      It's the reason why she can't make editorial.

    • @IrishKyokushin
      @IrishKyokushin 6 місяців тому +6

      Her Domino run does not give people reason to be hopeful.

    • @PaulSpurgeon
      @PaulSpurgeon 5 місяців тому

      She blows.

  • @RosencrantzxGuildenstern
    @RosencrantzxGuildenstern 6 місяців тому +32

    Seeing Wolverine being on Gail Simone's series made me groan out loud, I can already see the "hilarious" running joke of a different type of food being stuck on Logan's claws each issue. Foodsies are yumsies, and that's totes funsies!

  • @MaverickhunterXZero
    @MaverickhunterXZero 6 місяців тому +106

    Boy, I can't wait for the X-men to sit around and eat.

    • @RosencrantzxGuildenstern
      @RosencrantzxGuildenstern 6 місяців тому +22

      I bet Wolverine's gonna have different food skewered on his claws in each issue and constantly talk about how he can smell what everyone has had for breakfast. That and Rogue's gonna say stuff like "tarnation" or "dagnabbit" all the time like it's the funniest thing in the world.

    • @sird2333
      @sird2333 6 місяців тому

      It’s simultaneously hilarious and sad that a comment like this is what it’s come to.
      But put women in charge and this is what you get. Cause this is what they do.
      I’m in businesses every day for my job. I see how females in the workforce are.
      And hilariously, it’s just as they depict the superheroes being in the comics.
      Every girl is every other gals bestie (till she’s not) and weekly buffets or potlucks. And a lot of times a nice drawer full of hostess goodies that find their way to the females maws.
      It’s pitiful.

    • @1SpicyMeataball
      @1SpicyMeataball 6 місяців тому +14

      Talk about pronouns and whose now gay.

    • @RosencrantzxGuildenstern
      @RosencrantzxGuildenstern 6 місяців тому +8

      @@1SpicyMeataball The Uncanny X-Xim\Xers!

    • @ComicsForLife2023
      @ComicsForLife2023 6 місяців тому +5

      @@RosencrantzxGuildenstern exactly

  • @LigerFan
    @LigerFan 6 місяців тому +20

    Juggernaut not a hero? How about “Juggernaut not a mutant!”!

  • @john-zi9su
    @john-zi9su 6 місяців тому +58

    Jordan White: “The Krakoan Era sales are a
    dumpster fire, what do we do?”
    Tom Brevoort: “Hmm..needs more gasoline.”

  • @Luciusthestorms
    @Luciusthestorms 6 місяців тому +39

    I'd love for Cytorak to take Juggernaut's powers away right before he gets hit by like the wrecking crew. The fact he hasn't taken his powers away yet after betraying his oath TWICE now is crazy.

    • @ElChe-f5p
      @ElChe-f5p 2 місяці тому

      Well, you're dealing with a new generation of writers and editors now who have little to no sense of Marvel characters' history and of continuity, so it's all basically just bad fan fic at this point.

  • @uxm4life94
    @uxm4life94 6 місяців тому +13

    Unless they declare all of Krakoan era a non-canon dream- X-men are permanently dead. Nobody cares about the ongoing adventures of the soulless segregation clones.

    • @Tyler_W
      @Tyler_W 6 місяців тому +1

      Better yet, let Hickman take total control and just tell a reworked version of the cool story set up in HOX/POX that he planned and got derailed.

  • @Clark_Castle
    @Clark_Castle 6 місяців тому +19

    They didn't turn the villains into heroes in the Krakoa era, they turned the heroes into villains. Krakoa era should have ended with the reveal that all the X-Men were like plant people created by Krakoa and the villains, and have them emerge from the ground from the island and fight against their copies and the villains. As it stands, they're all tainted.

    • @EvandroACruz
      @EvandroACruz 6 місяців тому +5

      Yes while Marvel don't do a retcon reveling all they were brainwashed by Krakoa or were plant clones I never will see these characters like heroes again. Never.

    • @Tyler_W
      @Tyler_W 6 місяців тому +4

      I wouldn't have has a problem with the Krakoa era's creative direction if Hickman was allowed to just tell the story he had planned, but he was too much of a team player, and the editor never knew what he was doing, so the lunatics who actually thought Krakoa was a legit paradise and not the plant-based Brave New World it always was took over the asylum.

    • @lollmao6621
      @lollmao6621 Місяць тому

      Lol that sounds like the first pokemon movie

  • @jemagu6
    @jemagu6 6 місяців тому +21

    I was big into the X-Men as a kid in the late 80s, early 90s. I tried the House of X/Powers of X, but gave up on the hokey-preachy Krakow X-Men. I was glad to hear they are finally abandoning the "Krakoan Age", but this so-called relaunch still does not make me want to drop $20-30 a month on X-books.

  • @robertgray1365
    @robertgray1365 6 місяців тому +22

    Absolutely nothing about this beyond Greg Capullo drawing Wolverine interests me in the least. And he'll probably just draw a single arc and move on.

    • @kalkella8822
      @kalkella8822 6 місяців тому +3

      Even that is kind of lack luster because they already had Capullo's clone on the book in Vic Bogdonavich.

  • @mitchellalexander9162
    @mitchellalexander9162 6 місяців тому +9

    The Social Justice Age for Any Superhero who debuted in the Silver Age onward is going to be the Worst Time to be a fan of those Characters.

  • @ciaranmurren
    @ciaranmurren 6 місяців тому +19

    Are these artists going to do 3 issues and disappear? That's what stops me following a new book.

  • @YTLawnGnome
    @YTLawnGnome 6 місяців тому +20

    I agree 100%. The Jed Mackay and Ryan Stegman is the one that sounds the most promising. However, most of Jed Mackay's work outside of Moonknight has not been great. So honestly, I think X-Men is lost and I am not going to invest. I have been disappointed too many times with the Krakoa era and I am officially done. At least they are going back to the old logos.

    • @feeWAIVER
      @feeWAIVER 6 місяців тому +2

      You'll change your mind by July.

    • @CoreyAdolfi
      @CoreyAdolfi 6 місяців тому +3

      I don’t know I’d say his Doctor Strange and Avengers have been quite good.

    • @YTLawnGnome
      @YTLawnGnome 6 місяців тому +2

      @@CoreyAdolfi I stopped reading after the first arc of Avengers...it was nothing special to me.

  • @mikemaresca4999
    @mikemaresca4999 6 місяців тому +13

    ...Gail Simone?.... pass.

  • @kalel666
    @kalel666 6 місяців тому +16

    ... Eve Ewing? Hahahahahahahahahaha

  • @gringles
    @gringles 6 місяців тому +17

    They messed up Iceman so badly that I actually prefer Temper being in the lineup instead of nu-Bobby. “From the Ashes” Ah yes, I too remember Claremont and Simonson.

  • @ComicsForLife2023
    @ComicsForLife2023 6 місяців тому +24

    So surprised at how optimistic you sound. I’m done with Marvel. As long as they have a mandate to destroy masculinity and traditional superheroes. They not getting my money.
    The covers are just bait and switch.

  • @thibaldus3
    @thibaldus3 6 місяців тому +5

    Will they reverse all the gay conversion from decades long straight characters? If not, I'll skip it.

    • @EvandroACruz
      @EvandroACruz 6 місяців тому +2

      They created clone of Beast without Krakoa memories. The actual Beast should be killed off for good and the old Beast will return.

    • @thibaldus3
      @thibaldus3 6 місяців тому +2

      @@EvandroACruz Then they could give us the Kitty Pride who crushed (and later loved) Colossus and the Iceman who dated Polaris, Zelda, Darkstar and Annie back.

  • @tambara8576
    @tambara8576 6 місяців тому +83

    Will happily keep ignoring anything Marvel.

    • @choostopher5018
      @choostopher5018 6 місяців тому +7

      Oh is Marvel still publishing?

    • @Philosophical24
      @Philosophical24 6 місяців тому +9

      Same here, but will also happily buy anything 80’s-90’s, also early 2000’s marvel

    • @Commonsenseisntcommon34
      @Commonsenseisntcommon34 6 місяців тому +3

      ​@Philosophical24 congratulations, you are directly funded these new modern comics.

    • @stryker-reclassified
      @stryker-reclassified 6 місяців тому

      ​@@Commonsenseisntcommon34how so?

    • @binchilling5768
      @binchilling5768 6 місяців тому +1

      Immortal Thor and Avengers are good

  • @ryanlundccc6vc983
    @ryanlundccc6vc983 6 місяців тому +15

    Let me guess. The "exceptional" xmen are all the diverse characters.

    • @thibaldus3
      @thibaldus3 6 місяців тому +1

      "Diverse". As if European and straight people weren't actually already pretty diverse.

    • @Firevine
      @Firevine 6 місяців тому

      Bigot. Only everything being a nondescript shade of brown is diverse. A variety of hair and eye colors, freckles or no freckles, and a huge mix of culturally different cuisines and clothing styles is not diverse.

    • @murk4552
      @murk4552 6 місяців тому +1

      ​@@thibaldus3Or when they literally had an international team to save the OG 5 trapped on Krakoa?

  • @InfamyOrDeath-__-
    @InfamyOrDeath-__- 6 місяців тому +12

    10:54 What’s that image from? That image is the perfect example of current X-Men, the characters look lifeless, you can’t tell if the characters are male or female. I’m starting to think that comics can’t be saved, it’s just a mess.

    • @EvandroACruz
      @EvandroACruz 6 місяців тому

      While Krako Era was part of continuity the X-Men are dead to me.

  • @ellesse3862
    @ellesse3862 6 місяців тому +11

    The groaner for me was the title about some new mutants, like we need yet more (I'd rather see the ones we have that get rarely used), and of course theyre going to be .. Exceptional. Throw in a few pages every issue set in a coffee shop and its perfect for those who love that kind of thing, if anybody actually does. I don't think this title will last. Nine titles is too many, odd choices, too many X-Men titles. Juggernaut looks daft with that X on his face.

    • @bigtomboye
      @bigtomboye 6 місяців тому

      That X leapt out hugely. Awful

    • @ellesse3862
      @ellesse3862 6 місяців тому +1

      @@bigtomboye yeah, it looks like a prank Jubilee and Honey Badger might do while Juggernaut is asleep. Up there with Pyro's skull face tattoo as aweful make overs, young Kitty Pryde finally has competition for bad costume choices.

  • @Rnewton14
    @Rnewton14 6 місяців тому +6

    Marvels doing to Jed MacKay what DC did to Joshua Williamson. WAY too much on a writer who’s had some success, but by no means has the chops to write multiple A list titles like X-Men, Avengers, and a summer event.

  • @jlopez240gaming7
    @jlopez240gaming7 6 місяців тому +5

    Marvel just isn’t it for me anymore. Spider-man was the main thing holding on for Me. And marvel finally did it in making me not give a shit about spider-man anymore. They ruined spider-man 2 for ps5. The amazing spider-man comic is miserably painful. Their lazy and just race swap Iconic marvel hero’s cause they don’t want to create and build up new ethnic hero’s. Instead let’s replace captain America with a black man. Iron man with a black women, spider-man with a black man. Hulk with an Asian hulk. Honestly mangaka feels like the only thing in the world, safe from the western ideology bullshit in everything.

  • @gqd1975
    @gqd1975 6 місяців тому +9

    Marvel needs good writers very badly.

    • @Tyler_W
      @Tyler_W 6 місяців тому

      Good editors too.

  • @415Dwilliams
    @415Dwilliams 6 місяців тому +5

    Damn, Marvel won't let people's wallets breathe. I had to get out of floppies and specifically Marvel and even more specifically X-men. I love X-men, but I had to step away a year ago. This new announcement makes me feel I made the right decision.

  • @SamGuthrie1977
    @SamGuthrie1977 6 місяців тому +5

    Yeah sorry, I'm not coming back. There's tons of good X-Men comics from previous eras I can read.

    • @EvandroACruz
      @EvandroACruz 6 місяців тому +2

      Defending a world that hates and fears them, only this time they gave everyone a genuine and valid reason to do so! I'm so glad in to see the X-Men in the shit again. After Krakoa they didn't deserve less.

  • @omegaman2846
    @omegaman2846 6 місяців тому +5

    We all know the book will initially sell incredibly well based on morbid curiosity and the bad ass art, but the team they have will likely not deliver on story and it will fall off again. I pray I’m wrong but I’m probably not

  • @dwaynemuth8775
    @dwaynemuth8775 6 місяців тому +15

    Unreadable X-men 🧻💰🚽🪦

  • @Rodimusprimerib
    @Rodimusprimerib 6 місяців тому +4

    Seems Marvel did not learn their lesson and continue to release too many titles for the Xmen instead of just doing 2 strong titles. Man i miss the good old days in the mansion. Hopefully they can play some baseball in alaska.

  • @SlashTheWeasel
    @SlashTheWeasel 6 місяців тому +11

    So for the first 3 books is $15 or more per month. Then have additional six?!!? Nine? How do they expect anyone to keep up?! Really? Does Marvel even considering that even in the best of times that is a ton of money for any one person?

  • @themultiversalmagpie7827
    @themultiversalmagpie7827 6 місяців тому +6

    Why is juggernaut even there? He makes even less sense than magneto

  • @OrthwormJEB
    @OrthwormJEB 6 місяців тому +20

    The moment I saw Gail and Eve on the list, my first thought was “Oh, god.” 🙄

    • @Strat-o-caster
      @Strat-o-caster 6 місяців тому +3

      Gail is a pretty good writer

    • @IrishKyokushin
      @IrishKyokushin 6 місяців тому

      ​@@Strat-o-casterwhen she cares.

  • @milestrombley1466
    @milestrombley1466 6 місяців тому +40

    X-Men comics are now dead.

    • @bigtomboye
      @bigtomboye 6 місяців тому +1

      Sadly. 😢

    • @aqdrobert
      @aqdrobert 6 місяців тому

      Deadpool: Will we %$#! regenerate?

  • @Jesus-cu6vn
    @Jesus-cu6vn 6 місяців тому +8

    There is no fixing X-men right now. Honestly they’d be better of killing the title for a while until they figure out what to do and manage to get competent creative teams on board.

    • @EvandroACruz
      @EvandroACruz 6 місяців тому +2

      Yes the title deserves to be in a limbo for a few years after Krakoa fiasco.

    • @Tyler_W
      @Tyler_W 6 місяців тому +1

      That's not the solution so long as the had editors and bad writers are still around by the time they bring them back. Cleaning house is the only solution to Marvel's woes, nothing more, nothing less.

    • @Jesus-cu6vn
      @Jesus-cu6vn 6 місяців тому

      @@Tyler_W I mean I agree that’s why I said kill it till there’s competent creative there. You basically just restated my comment lol

  • @itauanguedes
    @itauanguedes 6 місяців тому +6

    No interest in this relaunch I really don't like the creators/writers choices.😢😢😢

  • @TheRayneghost
    @TheRayneghost 6 місяців тому +16

    Kitty as a barista is exactly what I have always wanted in my X-Men titles ☠️

    • @aqdrobert
      @aqdrobert 6 місяців тому +1

      Kitty: I never spill a coffee. They just phase through the table.

    • @ExeErdna
      @ExeErdna 6 місяців тому +1

      She went from a pirate, smugglers and ninja. To "can I take your order" somebody needs to be fired.

    • @eldgeth3799
      @eldgeth3799 6 місяців тому

      Hey she was a bartender in Mechanix so why not? *sarcasm*

  • @Reidbynature
    @Reidbynature 6 місяців тому +8

    What can you really hope for with Marvel's current "talent pool"? The art looks interesting at least, but I see enough red flags with who is writing that I don't hold any hope for this.

  • @machomachoduck2096
    @machomachoduck2096 6 місяців тому +4

    Their new base in Alaska? Why’re they not stationed in Westchester, at the Xavier Institute? And why is Juggernaut a member of the X-Men?

  • @ChrisSalinas-v5k
    @ChrisSalinas-v5k 6 місяців тому +4

    It's gonna go down like this for the X-Men line 3 issue in nothing happens than event after event.and a redo after 20 so issues.

  • @charlesbaserap8088
    @charlesbaserap8088 6 місяців тому +6

    McKay is dope. Ewing hasn't been bad on Black Panther, just a bit convoluted. Simone hasn't written anything good in years. Her Secret Six and Birds of Prey were great. Her Action Comics and Wonder Woman were awful. She had a really good horror series, Clean Room, but that was a while ago.
    I don't see the teams lasting too long. I'm really surprised they didn't give McKay Uncanny.

  • @PaballoKobe-xh9ve
    @PaballoKobe-xh9ve 6 місяців тому +9

    Jedd mckay really is the definition of right place right time

  • @kai8085
    @kai8085 6 місяців тому +5

    …..not surprised at all……Here we go again with another train wreck that we all can obviously see coming…..still kinda at a loss for words……🤷🏽‍♂️😓🫣🤦🏽‍♂️

  • @Thomaswake
    @Thomaswake 6 місяців тому +5

    I am never reading an X-Men book again until they fully prove they've changed

    • @EvandroACruz
      @EvandroACruz 6 місяців тому +2

      Me too. All they has blood in hands now. How can be true heroes again?

  • @markstevens7023
    @markstevens7023 6 місяців тому +5

    Did i hear that right ??? There will be 3 launch titles and 6 other titles after that ??? So 9 x-men books ???

  • @Rodimusprimerib
    @Rodimusprimerib 6 місяців тому +4

    How about Daniel Warren Johnson with Capullo on art for that Wolverine book 🤔

  • @havokan45
    @havokan45 6 місяців тому +3

    X MEN, Uncanny X MEN, X Factor , X Force and maybe Wolverine should be the reboot titles . Then have the other titles come from the stories that 3rd X MEN book is going to have Emma & Kate in it then 3 new Characters.. They could have had Emma & Kate on a different team then later leave team to make this new team. . My problem with Krakoa era is they have all these great characters but they don'y use them right then jumbo the same characters in the different books , the X MEN book with Wolverine in it should be Logans only book for abit tell the X Books have a crosover that counts finally. X Force & Factor books should have their own team members that aren't the other books . Wolverine i think should be down the line and maybe Laura take the reigns . You could X MEN,X, Uncanny X MEN,X Factor,X Force after 4 to 6 months have a crossover event where all 4 teams come together for some then have a shake up or 2 to the teams . Can't wait to see who will be on X Factor & X Force some good characters will be left out the books

  • @riotkitty
    @riotkitty 6 місяців тому +8

    The only thing I’ve seen of Eve Ewing is her Ironheart run, where she actually had Riri Williams act like a human person with emotions instead of a tyrannical psychopath. So if anything, the only expectations I have are that the XMen act like human superheroes again and not like sociopathic ethnostate villains.

  • @saladinbryant3653
    @saladinbryant3653 6 місяців тому +4

    Maggy n Juggy have definitely been xmen allies before. The kitty book seems the weakest so fat. I'm not excited about Gail at all. Without great villians the stories will suffer.

  • @codybrinson3520
    @codybrinson3520 6 місяців тому +3

    No thanks. To me, it’s all too little and too late. I’ll be sticking with Dynamite’s Gargoyles revival, instead. That, at least, has the guarantee of long-term game plans (courtesy of Greg Weisman), consistent storytelling (again, courtesy of Greg Weisman), and not burdened by a mountain of empty promises throughout the last decade-and-a-half.

  • @timwingers
    @timwingers 6 місяців тому +3

    I collected all of the X-Comics for the last 5 years. For the last year, they have all sat in a pile unread. I've been buying 15 books a week since 1991. For the first time ever, I can say I will be buying ZERO Marvel books after May. They killed all interest I had in the Xmen. I loved Cable and X-Force in the 90s. I have no interest in reading another bad take on it. I'm done with X-books.

  • @deadpilled2942
    @deadpilled2942 6 місяців тому +3

    Magneto has killed thousands of people, and mutants. DC does this with Harley Quinn

  • @darkhart1275
    @darkhart1275 6 місяців тому +5

    No interest for anything from the m-she-u. comics, tv or movie.

  • @garryjones1846
    @garryjones1846 6 місяців тому +5

    Ideally, a publisher would launch with 1 title. 1 well-written, well-illustrated, and well-edited title.
    3 to 4 titles isn't a launch, it's mass production/overestimating these characters' appeal.
    Anything over 3 to 4 is foolish.

  • @tommix6016
    @tommix6016 6 місяців тому +5

    They are patching up the hole in the lifeboat by cutting a replacement patch from the same lifeboat.

  • @greghannibal
    @greghannibal 6 місяців тому +3

    "An x book for everyone!"
    White conservative christian: "even me?"
    "LOL, no"

  • @zacharysouza5392
    @zacharysouza5392 6 місяців тому +2

    I know this isn't exactly well said but this reboot is absolute trash. What a big miss.

  • @cas4611
    @cas4611 6 місяців тому +2

    Why are people still reading anything from the corpse of a once good story company?

  • @incubustimelord5947
    @incubustimelord5947 6 місяців тому +12

    These new Marvel Comics X-Men comics written by Gail Simone and the Disney + original animated series X-Men '97 are all going to suck so badly. You can only imagine how much soy woke S.J.W. crap that those comics and that animated series are all going to be filled with.

  • @smoore6461
    @smoore6461 6 місяців тому +4

    Why get excited for something that will likely get polluted, perverted and deranged in some twisted modernity? Sorry, I will get excited when there is something to get excited about. Hype in the comic book industry is stupid. So many let downs OVER AND OVER. There are so many crap stories or stories that start well and then fall flat or full on crater into the ground. I am not going to get excited for anything until I see some good stories. When I hear "Made for everyone," i hear more of the same old crap.

  • @vilasboasfabricio
    @vilasboasfabricio 6 місяців тому +3

    The DEI BS never ends. The real fans don't like this crap.

  • @illithidlore
    @illithidlore 6 місяців тому +5

    Damn, I don't think there's a single writer in comic history I'd want writing Avengers AND X-Men at the same time.

  • @billybarnett2846
    @billybarnett2846 6 місяців тому +23

    I quit Marvel years ago and I have no regrets.

    • @bigtomboye
      @bigtomboye 6 місяців тому +2

      Congratulations! 🎉

    • @bigtomboye
      @bigtomboye 6 місяців тому +2

      (I also quit Hwood yrs ago and hv Zero regrets there either!)

  • @edwardhipkiss281
    @edwardhipkiss281 6 місяців тому +4

    One thing I will give them credit for - for far too long there has been an "any old c*** will do" attitude to the artwork on the X-Men books. You think back to the original run of Uncanny X-Men: Jack Kirby, Neal Adams, Dave Cockrum, John Byrne, Paul Smith, JR JR, Alan Davis, Barry-Windsor-Smith, Marc Silvestri, Jim Lee, Whilce Portacio, Joe Madureira... the list goes on and on. There was a pedigree there that in recent years has been ignored. Yes, Leinil Yu and Joshua Cassara are great artists, but they've been the exception rather than the rule. Every X-Book had great art, not just the flagship title. It does at least look like they are bringing their A-game artistically with David Marquez and Ryan Stegman on two of the books. And it's about time.
    The question is, are these books going to be readable and go some way to begin to restore the X-Men brand to it's all-conquering heyday? Based on what little of Gail Simone I've read in recent years, plus the sound of crickets around Jed McKay's Avengers run... I'm guessing this will be all flash and zero substance. But I'm pleased these books will at least look good, like they deserve to. These were some of the greatest characters in all of comic books until the Krakoan era turned them into all into cucks and mutant supremacists and it became the LGBTQ+ line of comics, rather than a line of comics that anyone who ever felt they were an outsider or didn't fit in could enjoy and relate to.

  • @joshphelan6770
    @joshphelan6770 6 місяців тому +4

    Nyx could be good in the sense that homelessness is out of control but that would be way to heavy for a Marvel book

  • @crosshair9907
    @crosshair9907 6 місяців тому +3

    As long as Jed's current Moon Knight run stays at a good level of writing quality, I'll be happy.
    I just hope he isn't overworked to the point where he puts less effort into his moon knight book and it turns to shit.

  • @MaximusTheMad511
    @MaximusTheMad511 6 місяців тому +4

    I expect nothing, and I'm still let down.

  • @ChrisSalinas-v5k
    @ChrisSalinas-v5k 6 місяців тому +2

    Feel sorry for comic shop they don't recommend anything .I give up on marvel.

  • @neotek8582
    @neotek8582 6 місяців тому +4

    More importantly, where is Colossus?!

  • @GeekpinEnt
    @GeekpinEnt 6 місяців тому +2

    Love the look you made when u mentioned Exceptional X-Men 😂. Also that title just sounds bad. It looks like a horrible version of generation x. I'll try X-Men but I think Uncanny will be the best of the 3. Also why aren't the X-men all in one place?

  • @brion0220
    @brion0220 6 місяців тому +3

    I want to see the X-Factor lineup. I want Havok leading them. If that happens, I might actually pick it up, depending on the creative team of course.

  • @kaleidoscopicvoid
    @kaleidoscopicvoid 5 місяців тому +2

    Yes thats why i liked the x-men. Them being underground, trying to survive, and just constantly mucking things, barely making it out. Thats when the x-men work best, otherwise they're just another Avengers.

  • @eldgeth3799
    @eldgeth3799 6 місяців тому +2

    I deliberately put off watching this one because I anticipated the books would be trash.
    Why did I have to be right? I keep hoping I won’t be right.

  • @IHRZGHKIP
    @IHRZGHKIP 6 місяців тому +2

    X-Men has sucked for almost two decades now. Why did you think Marvel was going to do anything good. That whole company is so poisoned by DEI crap, I'm surprised Wolverine isn't a hermaphrodite by now.

  • @mrmike320
    @mrmike320 6 місяців тому +2

    They should just bring back Astonishing X-men like back in 2004. And stop with the over complicated and super convoluted crap they been doing for years. Should not be as hard as they making it out to be.

  • @tigerbread78
    @tigerbread78 6 місяців тому +3

    I wonder if they'll stop killing?

    • @EvandroACruz
      @EvandroACruz 6 місяців тому +2

      And this matters now? All they are killers. There's no come back from this. I found funny in to see Kitty Pryde leading a new team and trying to inspire another mutants when she's slashing Orchis mooks with swords and ripping your hearts of your bodies in latest X books.

  • @lukaszrower7612
    @lukaszrower7612 6 місяців тому +2

    For God's sake . They cannot keep their hands off ideology. After all, the series has a pattern of characters and events. And of course they don't... They are some crazy people. There are no words what they do. 👎

  • @FussMonsters
    @FussMonsters 6 місяців тому +2

    Celebrating diversity actually negates the reason to even have an X-Men line. Just sayin'. Diversity as a challenge is the point of the characters, 'nuff said 😢

  • @Mondoness
    @Mondoness 6 місяців тому +2

    If Brevoort thinks Im just a "cretin", then I guess I'll just keep my cretin money.

  • @shaunsutton699
    @shaunsutton699 6 місяців тому +3

    Why is Juggernaut on an X-Men team!

  • @DavidSmith-dp6vb
    @DavidSmith-dp6vb 6 місяців тому +2

    I’ve heard that X-men by McKay will be featuring new villains. Jed creates a lot of villains that are not really distinct from each other. All the villains in his Avengers and Blood Hunt and none of them could be picked out of a police lineup

    • @bandoogiemanz
      @bandoogiemanz 6 місяців тому +1

      Some people say writers are reticent to create potentially great characters knowing if marvel really promotes the character they won't get proper due or compensation.

  • @sidneyrivera3578
    @sidneyrivera3578 6 місяців тому +2

    Still don’t think I am willing to take the risk on these new titles-not excited. I’ll wait until you and Doc give the green light✌️

  • @jdb114
    @jdb114 6 місяців тому +3

    I gave up on X-Men some years ago, after I think it was the third time Uncanny was rebooted. As I recall Emma Frost was the lead and Cyclops was the villain, Iceman was gay comic relief, it was dismal and nothing that I wanted to be part of. In fact I gave up on Marvel entirely as the MU was no longer a fun place. I briefly returned to ASM after its latest reboot and found nothing but pain, gave up again.
    How much longer can Marvel continue to pump out this garbage which no one wants? I know Disney has deep pockets but even they have limits.

    • @EvandroACruz
      @EvandroACruz 6 місяців тому +2

      Yes modern Marvel become a very cynical place. Many heroes behaving like villains or shitty persons. And killing the bad guys being a acceptable option to them. Spider-man aside.

  • @theragoooverlord5021
    @theragoooverlord5021 6 місяців тому +2

    You can see a dei book relaunch here. Happened several times already.

  • @shotsavereboundscore
    @shotsavereboundscore 6 місяців тому +2

    This ain't it

  • @RobertWilkinsonJKekMaloy
    @RobertWilkinsonJKekMaloy 6 місяців тому +3

    So, another decade of hating on the ecks men

  • @willpower8061
    @willpower8061 6 місяців тому +2

    Whatever happened to less is more?
    Also some of those costumes are terrible

  • @EvandroACruz
    @EvandroACruz 6 місяців тому +3

    I found so ironic all the "Defending a world that hates and fears them", only this time they gave everyone a genuine and valid reason to do so. Krakoa changed my view of these characters forever. I cannot bring myself to cheer to them anymore. In fact I'm happy in to see they are fugitives and being hunted again. They didn't deserve less after your erratic bahaviour in the past 4 years. I just don't care about X-Men anymore because I don't see heroism in your book for long time. And while Marvel don't do a retcon that all they were bainwashing by Krakoa or were just plant people I don't will touch in a single new X-Men book again.

    • @spinningtornado4543
      @spinningtornado4543 6 місяців тому +1

      The X-Men now are a lot like the Post-Ultimatum Ultimate X-Men, except Marvel lacks the self awareness and nuance they had with the stories that came out during those times in that reality... Not to mention the lack of creativity for recycling those plotpoints alone now.
      With the way the X-Men are portrayed and every awful thing they did during Krakoa still being canon and integral to this new status quo, saying these are the same people you used to root for long ago and, just for that reason alone, you're supposed to do the same now too is more than childish and tone-deaf on Marvel's part... And still they remain too cowardly and entitled to admit they messed up.

    • @EvandroACruz
      @EvandroACruz 6 місяців тому +1

      @@spinningtornado4543Yes, just pretend that nothing happened and just move on is the most poor and lazy way possible that Marvel choose to bring the old status quo back.Kitty Pryde will lead rookie team,how she can inspire the young mutants after your past actions in Krakoa?The same to the rest of them.

    • @spinningtornado4543
      @spinningtornado4543 6 місяців тому +1

      ​@@EvandroACruz I ask myself that very question ever since they have made that announcement.
      This also renders everything that will come out from now until the relaunch pretty much pointless and skippable since Krakoa as a nation is still mentioned in the premise of the three books and everything the X-Men did during that era will still be canon.
      Meaning whatever happens from now until then doesn't matter in the way it should.

    • @EvandroACruz
      @EvandroACruz 6 місяців тому +1

      @@spinningtornado4543 Yes and like I said in past videos I just can't see the X-Men being truly heroic again. All this new new Era it's just a huge hoax in my opinion. I wonder if one day some writer will erase Krakoa from the main continuity.

    • @spinningtornado4543
      @spinningtornado4543 6 місяців тому +1

      @@EvandroACruz The X-Office is filled with immature, talentless and uncreative hacks. On top of their cowardice, they don't respect fans.
      Unless the members are changed from the ground up and they hire an editor that isn't a wet blanket and actually does the job, Krakoa and every retcon it did on the X-Men franchise are the new permanent canon.

  • @illithidlore
    @illithidlore 6 місяців тому +2

    The fact that it's not called X-Ceptional X-Men is all you need to know that it's going to suck.

  • @madbug1965
    @madbug1965 6 місяців тому +2

    I was pigeon toed as a small child. Can I join the X-Men? 😂

  • @JulioCesar-hk2pr
    @JulioCesar-hk2pr 6 місяців тому +3

    X-Woke

  • @littlewolvie2396
    @littlewolvie2396 6 місяців тому +2

    Not sure at all about these. The choice of artists seems fine, but I'm not exactly excited about the writers. These don't strike me as the ultimate X-Men writers,but rather as more of the same from the last couple of years, from the same vat of ideology if I may say so.
    I think Wes made an excellent point. You don't get the feeling this is a real reboot/relaunch that matters and will turn things around. They shuffle some writers around, but basically these are the same people from the same select pool of not very talented individuals who have been writing mostly bad comics for Marvel for the last couple of years and once again I get the impression ideology and political affiliation were more important selection criteria than actual talent. As such, the change seems very superficial.
    I imagine all these will start with $6.99 issues and 35 variant covers? But seriously, if Marvel is smart they launch these at $3.99. There's a bigger chance I'll try them out anyway in that case, even though I'll probably end up being disappointed. If they are really smart, which they aren't, they launch these with a special low introductory price.