The Fascinating History of U.S.Agent! [Falcon & Winter Soldier]

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  • @GenerationWest
    @GenerationWest 3 роки тому +1396

    I love how US Agent for decades in media was just "The dark Captain America skin" in video games, until light was shined upon him, revealing that he's the a-hole Captain America with a Whisky name.

  • @matthewedwards6054
    @matthewedwards6054 3 роки тому +14

    US Agent is one of those characters that I know of, but no nothing about and probably could only recognize the costume.

    • @Seasonal-Shadow_4674
      @Seasonal-Shadow_4674 3 роки тому

      Same here, even as a hardcore marvel fan

    • @rogers.5
      @rogers.5 3 роки тому

      I thought U.S. agent was the racist version of Captain America

    • @dcmarvelcomicfans9458
      @dcmarvelcomicfans9458 3 роки тому

      @@rogers.5 no that's ultimate cap he's more of the darker side of Captain America if he was mostly pro-government

  • @ems6706
    @ems6706 3 роки тому +2

    I think I would use U.S. Agent as the MC trying to synthesize and make sense of all the different shadowy government agencies in Marvel. Like there have to have been at least 20 of them so I think there's a good story there.

  • @trippytimesjosh355
    @trippytimesjosh355 2 роки тому

    So shocked when I saw that blood splattered shield. Lookin forward to him on Thunderbolts/Dark Avengers.

  • @ODISeth
    @ODISeth 3 роки тому +1

    I’m curious how far ahead you recorded this in preparation for whenever USAgent actually showed up in the series. It seems far too well researched and edited for you to have scrapped it together on Friday itself. Huge props!

  • @paulhiscock6790
    @paulhiscock6790 3 роки тому

    In regards to the costume for us agent I have the stories around that I will look through them

  • @kirkoli5001
    @kirkoli5001 3 роки тому

    Damn this got confusing.

  • @Yukosan13
    @Yukosan13 3 роки тому

    LoL, 😅 now, I'm disappointed that the MCU won't be having a epic battle between two Captain Americans but it'll definitely be interesting to see how the Disney+ writers will handle this character 😄 so far I'm already blown away by episode 1.. so I feel like the rest will be good

  • @johnjamesleahy4065
    @johnjamesleahy4065 3 роки тому

    I appreciate the video but i wish you talked more about his strength enhancements...

    • @ComicDrake
      @ComicDrake  3 роки тому +2

      They're not really that big of a deal. He got the usual superhero cocktail of enhanced strength, durability, etc.
      Focusing on power levels and shit is just boring and isn't what's important. It's about story.

    • @johnjamesleahy4065
      @johnjamesleahy4065 3 роки тому

      @@ComicDrake lol ok thajk you :)

  • @slashd
    @slashd 3 роки тому

    Zombie cyborgs?

  • @radio7353
    @radio7353 3 роки тому +449

    god, that "9/11 names" shield design looks like something straight out of The Boys and precisely the kind of thing that Vought would do

    • @seanmiller4170
      @seanmiller4170 3 роки тому +55

      I'm surprised the master of subtlety, Garth Ennis didn't do that

    • @Rorschach003
      @Rorschach003 3 роки тому +25

      Sounds exactly like something Red Skull would do to mock Americans

    • @ShrekReacts
      @ShrekReacts 3 роки тому +10

      On the boys, I hope US agent isn't just like Homelander. He's great but would be a shame if they end up basically the same character.

    • @sawtooth808
      @sawtooth808 3 роки тому +10

      @@Rorschach003 considering The iteration of The Invaders with USAgent was put together by The Red Skull (under the anagram of Dell Rusk), that would indeed be a Red Skull thing to do.

    • @comixproviderftw_02
      @comixproviderftw_02 3 роки тому +5

      >Soldier Boy enters the chat

  • @matti.8465
    @matti.8465 3 роки тому +829

    They basically pulled an Azrael. "What is it, kids? You think the current heroes are boring? You want EDGY and VIOLENT? Fine, we'll make a new character like that pick up the mantle just to show you how stupid and wrong that would be!". I love it!

    • @keenanjohnson1296
      @keenanjohnson1296 3 роки тому +43

      The clasdic "Replacement Hero" trope.

    • @matti.8465
      @matti.8465 3 роки тому +105

      @@keenanjohnson1296 Pretty much, but I love it when the replacement is done out of spite. That Azrael storyline in Batman was basically a big commentary on why those 90's anti-heroes and their overly bulky and complex armors suck.

    • @ManiacX1999
      @ManiacX1999 3 роки тому +8

      @@matti.8465 But, waa that intentional or just?

    • @DrMadd
      @DrMadd 3 роки тому +49

      @@ManiacX1999 It was intentional. Dennis O’Neil, one of the writers of Knightfall, said as much.

    • @pious83
      @pious83 3 роки тому +12

      He basically is a (little) more stable version of Jean Paul Valley.

  • @WhaleManMan
    @WhaleManMan 3 роки тому +262

    Imagine he broke away from the US like Cap did, and he just calls himself "gent"

  • @adventarchivist5789
    @adventarchivist5789 3 роки тому +752

    Yikes. This character's history feels like the equivalent of a rapid paced pinball machine.

    • @katzewerfer63
      @katzewerfer63 3 роки тому +27

      I'd say the history of Madcap is even worse... they had absolutely no idea what to do with an immoral that could drive people into fits of mania

    • @nicholaspeters9919
      @nicholaspeters9919 3 роки тому

      Aw! Tilt.

    • @mattwo7
      @mattwo7 3 роки тому

      "Rapid" probably isn't the right word to describe it.

    • @mattwo7
      @mattwo7 3 роки тому +1

      @@katzewerfer63 Apparently try to explain Deadpool's schizophrenia (and no, it's not DID/MPD because that's not how DID/MPD works). It didn't stick of course.

    • @mattwo7
      @mattwo7 3 роки тому +1

      @@katzewerfer63 Speaking of Madcap and Deadpool though, what about Slapstick, one of the Marvel characters who broke the 4th before Deadpool did, like Sensational She-Hulk? He seems to have been tossed around and forgotten too, he was last seen as part of Deadpool's short-lived "Mercs for Money" team which is also the second to last time Madcap was seen.

  • @kirbyinhalesjotaro4471
    @kirbyinhalesjotaro4471 3 роки тому +498

    I bet there are a lot of people who just know US Agent as "that one weird guy from the old Marvel vs Capcom game"

    • @jitox
      @jitox 3 роки тому +28

      omg this used to confused so much as a kid. I was like, who is this guy who is not captain america'?? Isnt this a recolor, who is this guuuy

    • @discmanthecdlord
      @discmanthecdlord 3 роки тому +17

      Thats like the only appearance i remember him for that one assist who looks like a captain america lol

    • @MorphingGrid101
      @MorphingGrid101 3 роки тому +7

      I only know him as:
      He's Captain America's and Nuke's baby

    • @megamix5403
      @megamix5403 3 роки тому +2

      It's better than knowing him as that weird guy from Falcon and the Winter Soldier.

    • @frostmourne1986
      @frostmourne1986 3 роки тому +2

      *Marvel vs Street Fighter. He was an assist in the first MvC though.

  • @DylanScottDavis
    @DylanScottDavis 3 роки тому +83

    So would you say that US Agent is a "good" example of how someone can grow overtime from being blinded or conditioned to think one way? That's one of the takeaways I got from this video so I'm interested in his story and might pick it up.

    • @ComicDrake
      @ComicDrake  3 роки тому +56

      I mean I like to think that I'm also a good example of that. I had some really bad sociopolitical beliefs when I was younger and I'm extremely lucky that I had patient people to explain their life experiences which opened my worldview and let me become a more empathetic person.
      I think that John Walker has a lot of the same qualities that I did which is one of the reasons why he grew on me as a character.

    • @DylanScottDavis
      @DylanScottDavis 3 роки тому +8

      @@ComicDrake See I feel the same way about my past beliefs, which is why I'm a huge fan of yours for acknowledging your own past beliefs. Since I graduated college I've gone through major growth as a person, I've come to regret a lot of what I believed, said, and did. Seeing you open up partially open up about it over the past few years has been refreshing and keeps me coming back to your videos in support because of the similarities I feel. Seeing your growth inspires me to be a better person just as much as it inspires me to read more comics. So thank you and keep doing what you do!

    • @dontlookatme9692
      @dontlookatme9692 3 роки тому

      @@ComicDrake ohh so sweet

  • @DeadUnicornClub
    @DeadUnicornClub 3 роки тому +181

    You're saying there is a Cap shield still sitting at the bottom of the Hudson, waiting for someone to find it and use it against the heroes? Like Gwenpool could suddenly remember that it happened in all the comics she read and found it and painted it pink?

    • @JMobster9
      @JMobster9 3 роки тому +33

      That would actually be really cool. They should totally do that.

    • @giuseppepiuma1965
      @giuseppepiuma1965 3 роки тому +1

      Wait she did? I haven't read Gwenpool in a couple years

    • @redhood7650
      @redhood7650 3 роки тому +3

      @@giuseppepiuma1965 no,it's a hypothetical scenario

    • @giuseppepiuma1965
      @giuseppepiuma1965 3 роки тому

      @@redhood7650 ok thx

    • @firepuppies4086
      @firepuppies4086 3 роки тому

      @@redhood7650 and one that isn't exactly out of character

  • @didjargo
    @didjargo 3 роки тому +254

    Some people think that it is overwhelming to keep track of 12 years worth of MCU movies. They don't know the struggle of keeping track of decades worth of countless comic plot lines.

    • @MongoSlade84
      @MongoSlade84 3 роки тому +4

      Truth my brother

    • @ct7829
      @ct7829 3 роки тому +6

      Never read lots of 616 or Ultimate (i’m a batman family fan) but after reading Bucky, Scott Summers, Hank Pym and Janet Van Dyne on marvel wiki. I managed to understand their stories

    • @eliargumedo4728
      @eliargumedo4728 3 роки тому

      Yea imagine trying to read all that now

    • @Shahzad-ss1jq
      @Shahzad-ss1jq 2 роки тому

      I have the knowledge of all Pokemon and their moves
      Pre gen 6

    • @Nobody-zl3kk
      @Nobody-zl3kk 2 роки тому

      @@Shahzad-ss1jq The correct gens.
      /j if i need to clarify

  • @tybonj6419
    @tybonj6419 3 роки тому +391

    I’m hoping for a video on other “Captain America’s” like patriot or other people who have taken the mantle

    • @ComicDrake
      @ComicDrake  3 роки тому +128

      Make sure to ring that bell. ;)

    • @aidan-
      @aidan- 3 роки тому +11

      @@ComicDrake ooh I'm getting excited

    • @NeedyBoBeedy
      @NeedyBoBeedy 3 роки тому +9

      @@aidan- keep it in your pants

    • @Abominatrix650
      @Abominatrix650 3 роки тому +5

      @@ComicDrake Why do I get the feeling you're saving that for Independence Day?

    • @tyresebellamy606
      @tyresebellamy606 3 роки тому +1

      @@NeedyBoBeedy 9

  • @monauralsnail0669
    @monauralsnail0669 3 роки тому +34

    The fact that omega flight the Canadian super hero team recruited a guy called USAgent is so goddamn funny

  • @benadrylthundercrotch7144
    @benadrylthundercrotch7144 3 роки тому +128

    Wow, I only ever knew him as "Cap but an asshole" but apparently he really does have a lot of potential.

  • @brianholmes1812
    @brianholmes1812 3 роки тому +73

    "Cap became a member of the terrorist organisation Hydra. But don't worry he got better" my new favourite quote

    • @L1701
      @L1701 3 роки тому +4

      That’s an error on Drake’s part. Cap was brainwashed.

    • @redactedz6146
      @redactedz6146 3 роки тому +4

      @@harlannguyen4048 Now that's, in a way, funny to think about. Thanks for that info lmao

    • @ghost_kinggamer
      @ghost_kinggamer 3 роки тому +1

      @@harlannguyen4048 Wrong. Hydra cap was the one made by Kubic. Cap is the one with the Avengers

    • @ghost_kinggamer
      @ghost_kinggamer 3 роки тому +1

      Also Hydra Cap is dead now. So if he was the real Cap wich he isn't since he was a construct, that would mean that Captain America the real one is dead

    • @ghost_kinggamer
      @ghost_kinggamer 3 роки тому

      @@harlannguyen4048 MURDERED

  • @petertracycarroll
    @petertracycarroll 3 роки тому +26

    Him speaking fluent Spanish in the comics is something I hope they bring into the movies since it could be how he pays tribute to Lemar learning all the languages he knew

  • @spiderhamilton1
    @spiderhamilton1 3 роки тому +23

    Old guy here. During his 90s run, John Walker was used as Marvel's answer to Guy Gardner. Guy was inexplicably very popular during this time as the unapologetic a-hole everyone loves to hate on the Justice League. Every appearance of USAgent then just seemed like a attempt to capture that Gardner magic but he did not.
    Also, the story of his time as replacement Captain America was much better and more plausible than Knightfall over a DC imo.

    • @ComicDrake
      @ComicDrake  3 роки тому +7

      Yep. Guy Gardner is my favorite Lantern and I got major Guy vibes from him. It's partly what made me a fan.

  • @Tomy574
    @Tomy574 3 роки тому +204

    I feel like there's so much potential for a good story of Walker, Roggers and Nuke acting as foils to each other

    • @BullseyeRey
      @BullseyeRey 3 роки тому +1

      We already had Walker fighting Nuke.

    • @Tomy574
      @Tomy574 3 роки тому

      @@BullseyeRey I know

    • @ghost_kinggamer
      @ghost_kinggamer 3 роки тому

      @@BullseyeRey Nuke almost killed Walker...

    • @L1701
      @L1701 3 роки тому +3

      The upcoming United States of Captain America looks to be getting something like that. Steve, Sam, John and Bucky going on a road trip.

    • @hamhockbeans
      @hamhockbeans 3 роки тому

      Have Walter beat the hell out of Punisher.

  • @DiarrheaIsUnbreakable
    @DiarrheaIsUnbreakable 3 роки тому +254

    So he’s basically Ultimate Captain America. I remember one time in Mighty Avengers where Quicksilver breaks him free of his brainwashing by saying that if he doesn’t, “the reds will win”.

    • @BullseyeRey
      @BullseyeRey 3 роки тому +47

      At worst Walker isn't as bad as Ultimate Cap.

    • @arturofernandez4058
      @arturofernandez4058 3 роки тому +20

      Nothing like the original brainwashing to remove other brainwashing

    • @dakota4384
      @dakota4384 3 роки тому +13

      No, Walker is a lot more nice of a guy

    • @MetaDHedge28
      @MetaDHedge28 3 роки тому +14

      "Do you think the A on my head stands for FRANCE?!"

    • @turtleanton6539
      @turtleanton6539 2 роки тому

      @@MetaDHedge28 yes. Does it not ?

  • @comixproviderftw_02
    @comixproviderftw_02 3 роки тому +232

    Great to see John Walker getting some love.
    P.S.
    >U.S. Agent appears in Falcon and The Winter Soldier
    MCU Fans: That shield doesn't belong to you...

    • @hubbug6847
      @hubbug6847 3 роки тому +23

      Lol ye. I can’t wait to see him more as a good foil to Falcon and Bucky. Btw I know no one cares but you spelt shield wrong and it’s triggering my ocd like crazy.

    • @gateauxq4604
      @gateauxq4604 3 роки тому +13

      Oh god the look on Sam’s face 😭 Anthony Mackie nailed it. This is gonna be a good month

    • @hubbug6847
      @hubbug6847 3 роки тому +1

      @@gateauxq4604 yesss

    • @seandabest4329
      @seandabest4329 3 роки тому +6

      I can't wait to see it. It definitely looks like they're going to be discussing what it means to even have a superhero called "Captain America," since he's going up against people who believe in a world without borders and Falcon, a black guy (and let's be real, the writers are aware of that) has denied his calling. Should be fun!

    • @comixproviderftw_02
      @comixproviderftw_02 3 роки тому

      @@hubbug6847 Fixed

  • @pockystyx4087
    @pockystyx4087 3 роки тому +28

    "became the leader of. . ."
    I feel there's a running theme with this character

  • @ImperialWarrior6490
    @ImperialWarrior6490 3 роки тому +20

    Wyatt Russell's performance as John Walker in The Falcon and The Winter Soldier was probably my favorite part of that show. Wyatt is a fantastic actor (just like his father) and he was the most compelling character in the show, even when he kind of became a villain. He went through the most changes and challenges throughout the show and I also couldn't help but feel bad for him. He was trying to be a good person, but everyone in the MCU, the writers, and the audience were going to shaft him because HOW DARE HE TAKES STEVE'S NAME AND SHIELD!!!

    • @elliswebster7041
      @elliswebster7041 Рік тому +1

      I hated his character the whole way through bcs of the thing you said at the end but I couldn't help but love him at the same time

    • @MaxWelton
      @MaxWelton Рік тому +2

      I was annoyed when he said he saw Steve as a brother and was generally tone-deaf in his interactions with Sam and Bucky, but then he *murdered a surrendering enemy combatant in cold blood and broad daylight.* I’m less mad that he was given the shield and more at how he used it. I don’t get why the writers seemed to try to redeem him. TFATWS came out the year after George Floyd was murdered. They should’ve known we’re not about to root for John Walker, a police officer who killed unjustly.

    • @nicolasgarant9124
      @nicolasgarant9124 Рік тому +5

      ​@MaxWelton I think it's VERY important to keep in mind John Walker's state of mind at the time. The government 100% set him up for failure by giving the mantle to an already ready shaken and deeply traumatized man. Also keep in mind, the incident where he killed a man was right after his best friend was murdered in front of him. A guy he knew since they were teens. It's fine not liking a character, but ignoring they are human beings with emotions and traumas is also not cool.

    • @trycilz2307
      @trycilz2307 11 місяців тому +2

      @@MaxWelton "he murdered a surrendering enemy combatant in cold blood and broad daylight" super human terrorist who killed dozens of people?

    • @parv6951
      @parv6951 11 місяців тому +1

      ​@MaxWelton Jesus christ, watch the show in its own context. JW and Steve are both soldiers hence he saw him like a brother in arms and someone to aspire to. His interactions with bucky and Sam were nothing but respectful as he wanted their guidance. Sam and bucky were being childish and unprofessional. Also grasping for straws to hate the guy, like what's wrong with being called a 'wingman'. If anything walker was far to generous to the two since ehe didn't arrest them as soon as they released zemo. What they do in return? Quip while he got ganged up on by wakandan soldiers and then bully him into returning the shield after his BF got killed.
      Also he's a soldiers, no shit he's gonna kill a superhuman terrorist

  • @undead923
    @undead923 3 роки тому +56

    Funny that I remembered him only because of him being a secret assist in MVC1

  • @foolslayer9416
    @foolslayer9416 3 роки тому +7

    So US Agent is an antihero version of Captain America who struggles with loss and rage. That's actually a lot of potential for a character. I just hope the MCU doesn't make him a villain.

    • @Birthday888
      @Birthday888 3 роки тому

      Honestly, I'll settle for not "generic racist white guy". Like, I'm fine if he is, he's supposed to be an antagonist and we're clearly not meant to be rooting for him taking up Cap's shield and title, but I don't want that to be *all* that he is.

    • @dakota4384
      @dakota4384 3 роки тому +1

      @@Birthday888 He is an antagonistic protagonist, he is still a hero.

    • @ShadowSonic2
      @ShadowSonic2 3 роки тому +1

      @@Birthday888 The funny thing is, for all his other faults, Walker was never portrayed as racist.

  • @grantbaugh2773
    @grantbaugh2773 3 роки тому +22

    The story where he becomes cap is fantastic. It's fun to watch John become a better person by trying to emulate a man he was actively pushing against

  • @CryptidZeker415
    @CryptidZeker415 3 роки тому +115

    Honestly, one of my favorite US Agent moments was after Civil War, starks wanted to place him in the Omega Flight team as an American Lieson. And his respond was....what else could it be but........
    "SCREW YOU STARK!!!!!!!!!!!!! CANADA!!!!!!!!!!!!!YOU WANNA SEND ME TO FREAKEN CANADA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!NOT THIS TIME STARK, I SERVE UNCLE SAM. NOT MAJOR MAPLE LEAF"

    • @richardauthement3105
      @richardauthement3105 3 роки тому +12

      sweet judas h priest that's hilarious. tony should've done it anyway just to piss him off.

    • @oscarangel2989
      @oscarangel2989 3 роки тому +2

      Hahaha i forgot that one. Hilarious.

    • @CryptidZeker415
      @CryptidZeker415 3 роки тому +8

      @@richardauthement3105 XD yeah, honestly i think tony just didnt want to see another patriotic hero with a shield since this was during the whole Civil War event

    • @Shahzad-ss1jq
      @Shahzad-ss1jq 2 роки тому

      Their is a hero from Canada right
      I just know that because of the time I played contest of champions

    • @CryptidZeker415
      @CryptidZeker415 2 роки тому +1

      @@Shahzad-ss1jq it was a canadian team yes, that john was briefly assigned to. He accepted the role since he was after purple man who made his way to canada to escape being arrested here in the states

  • @TrashmanCZ
    @TrashmanCZ 3 роки тому +32

    I am fascinated how you are able to create such amazing content and read all of these comic books. Keep up the good work.

    • @ComicDrake
      @ComicDrake  3 роки тому +15

      The trick is that I take meticulous notes on EVERYTHING that I read so I have about five hundred research docs in progress at all times. So while reading U.S.Agent books, that means I have notes taken for Steve Rogers, Flag-Smasher, Falcon, the Dark Avengers, Force Works, the Mighty Avengers, Avengers West Coast, and plenty more.
      That way when I start a new video, there's a good chance that a good amount of leg work was already done and annotated.

    • @Seasonal-Shadow_4674
      @Seasonal-Shadow_4674 3 роки тому +4

      @@ComicDrake where do you find all those books? Is it too late to read his comics even if I know everything based on this video? How’s the Christopher Preist Series?

    • @elliswebster7041
      @elliswebster7041 Рік тому

      Sorry in advance I didn't know your comment was from 2 years when I wrote it 💀
      ​​Marvel has an app called Marvel Unlimited were you can pay a subscription to get access to most if not all their comics. Depending on how many you read it's better value than buying them but obviously you lose access to them when the subscription runs out. They can be a bit awkward to read too since its on a small phone screen so you pretty much have to stay zoomed in and constantly move the page around and some pages work better landscape while others work better portrait so you'll probably be turning your phone around quite a lot. Also depends wether you're fine with digital comics and not owning them physically but it makes it good for trying out comics you might not have bought a physical copy of.
      There might be better options but hats all I know of.

  • @markhalm9889
    @markhalm9889 3 роки тому +27

    In universe Walker refused to have cybernetic limbs because it would make him more like Nuke the guy who crippled him

  • @aidanklobuchar1798
    @aidanklobuchar1798 3 роки тому +24

    "Why don't we disband while we have the chance?"
    -Every team US Agent has been on, probably.

  • @mieroth
    @mieroth 3 роки тому +24

    Hope he stays in the MCU on the Thunderbolts or Dark Avengers team (whichever Marvel Studios will be doing). I think having a team of anti-heroes in the MCU is inevitable especially after the box office success of Suicide Squad. And US Agent is a perfect character for that team, along with other characters like Ghost and Justin Hammer.

    • @Nobody-zl3kk
      @Nobody-zl3kk 2 роки тому

      oof i think any plan to have a thunderbolts movie went out of the window with a certain passing, R.I.P. my main man William Hurt...
      edit before i even posted this initially: uuuhmm okay i had to fact check because it has already happened to me in the past that i said an actor died but i got confused with the names or something and although he is indeed dead, it seems that a Thunderbolts movie is already in production according to rumors... so, that is interesting.

  • @FoxJ10027
    @FoxJ10027 3 роки тому +91

    Walker wears the "Captain" outfit because him and Cap's dry cleaning got mixed up (they look pretty similar, after all). Since Walker's memories were all scrambled, he just assumed that was his uniform. These things happen from time to time in the Marvel universe. By the time he realized, he and Cap agreed that it looked "super badass" on him, so he kept the look.

    • @teo-pc8yx
      @teo-pc8yx 3 роки тому +3

      Nah that's made up for sure 😂

    • @FoxJ10027
      @FoxJ10027 3 роки тому +19

      @@teo-pc8yx Nope, it's revealed in "Captain America: Return of the Asthma Monster".

    • @melonsaway3929
      @melonsaway3929 3 роки тому +3

      @@FoxJ10027 Can someone please fact check this book and get back to us?

    • @keithgarner2759
      @keithgarner2759 3 роки тому +2

      @@melonsaway3929It's total nonsense. I checked.

    • @chaoscat1499
      @chaoscat1499 3 роки тому +19

      @@keithgarner2759 The fact that you had to check the book to make sure that was made-up says a lot about comic books in general.

  • @jonah3936
    @jonah3936 3 роки тому +27

    i’ve always irrationally hated usagent, very excited that falcon and the winter soldier is giving me a reasonable excuse

    • @alexferrana3979
      @alexferrana3979 3 роки тому +2

      Actually, he deserve some hate, because he is jingoistic and asshole guy.

    • @jalpat2272
      @jalpat2272 3 роки тому +2

      @@alexferrana3979 why be jingo a sin now?

    • @Wren_the_Bird_King
      @Wren_the_Bird_King 3 роки тому +2

      @@jalpat2272 I see it as Patriotic Arrogance. The mindset of “My country is the best and I will beat you up to prove it.”

  • @lanecress574
    @lanecress574 3 роки тому +17

    I can not for the life of me tell if having 9/11 victims on his shield was genius in how ridicously over the top it is showing the weird lengths unhealthy patriotism will go, or just plain stupid. I love it.

  • @crackheadcthulhu7698
    @crackheadcthulhu7698 3 роки тому +24

    Hi drake,
    I’ve been reading the 2005 runaways series lately and I found something very weird. So basically when the future version of Gert goes to the past she says that it must be 2005 because Karolina is still alive. This got me thinking, so I googled Molly’s age and she is 11 years old. And the the writer of the new 2017 runaways series confirmed that Molly just turned 13 during or shortly before the first issue. Does this mean earth-616 is currently in the year 2007? I’m really confused, please help. And thanks for your awesome videos.🙏

    • @AussieDragoon
      @AussieDragoon 3 роки тому +21

      Marvel operates on a sliding time-scale, which means events dates change relative to the current year the books are being published. So even though the book said it was 2005, as of right now it actually takes place a nebulous 2 years ago from the current date. So basically don't take years at face value in Marvel or DC comics, those dates will change as time goes on.

    • @Powerman293
      @Powerman293 3 роки тому +1

      @@AussieDragoon The old joke is that the only thing that doesn't slide through time in comics is that Captain America always fought in WW2.

  • @vysezen
    @vysezen 3 роки тому +15

    I heard Eli Bradley (Patriot) is gonna show up in the show and I'm really excited for that bc I love the first run of young Avengers. So you think you could do a short history on him? Much appreciated 😁

    • @ComicDrake
      @ComicDrake  3 роки тому +4

      I'm pretty sure that it's Isaiah Bradley that's going to be making an appearance. I do have a video on him planned.

    • @naquingreen1603
      @naquingreen1603 3 роки тому

      @@ComicDrake
      He just appeared in episode 2 of the falcon and The Winter Soldier, it seems like a brief cameo BUT he may show up again both Eli Bradley and Isaiah Bradley

  • @lukelogue4720
    @lukelogue4720 3 роки тому +75

    I don't know where to say this, so this is the best place. John Walker gives off black hair energy

  • @andrewcabrera505
    @andrewcabrera505 3 роки тому +5

    So is he a hero or a villain since he’s appearing in a new show? Let’s consult the comics!
    The comics: hell if we know lol

    • @Powerman293
      @Powerman293 3 роки тому

      Sometimes for MCU stuff the twist is obvious if you follow the comics (Agatha All Along, Mysterio being a bad guy) but then there's characters like this with weird and messed up histories that not even the writers can keep track of.

  • @ClonePilotSwoop
    @ClonePilotSwoop 3 роки тому +7

    I wanted John Walker introduced after or at the end of Civil War. Steve Rogers wouldn't sign the accords, so the government needs their propaganda machine out there and gets "Captain America" to sign. Then have John bumping heads with the Avengers cause Walker is a jerk right? That's what I was hoping for.

  • @NojoJojo598
    @NojoJojo598 3 роки тому +10

    Fun Fact: US Agent was a secret palette swap of Cap in the classic arcade game Marvel Super Hero VS Street Fighter

  • @Thelowestofthelowtiers
    @Thelowestofthelowtiers 3 роки тому +14

    Hey!
    It's that one hidden character in Marvel Super Heroes vs Street Fight!

    • @saharudin3159
      @saharudin3159 3 роки тому

      More like assist character we randomly chose in marvel vs capcom

  • @cullenlatham2366
    @cullenlatham2366 3 роки тому +4

    I dont know what to think of the character based off the summary. On the one hand "discount Captain America" could be a fun topic to explore, but on the other, all the attempts to do so sound like flops. My only potential suggestion is to bring him to an era outside of steve rodgers, then make him either the era's new captain america, or the archenemy of the era's captain america.
    Either way, i can see why the character generally flopped, as "imposter syndrome" is strong. Why should the audience care about him? It doesnt matter how compelling the story within the books themselves are if the marketing front/first impressions are just "knock-off captain america".

  • @johna.760
    @johna.760 3 роки тому +4

    I think the "black" suit is just another suit Steve had around, much like when he grabbed his "old" uniform in The Winter Soldier, although it was an alternate suit and not the original from the war.

  • @Kitaeo
    @Kitaeo 3 роки тому +8

    always wondered what the origin of the marvel vs capcom character was, thanks for the vid!

  • @EnerKaizer
    @EnerKaizer 3 роки тому +7

    Funny thing about the energy shield Walker used during his time in force works: That shield actually got used by Steve Rogers later on.
    When Steve lost the Captain America mantle after he had helped the Red Skull to invade a secret military base (Long story, had to do with his first resurrection after he died while wearing his 90ies power armor) he was given that shield by Sharon Carter when he started to work as a hero without a code-name during the story-arc "Enemy of the state". Don't know how she got that, but Steve was constantly moaning about the shield beeing a cheap knock-off while he used it to infiltrate Latveria, so there is that.

    • @ComicDrake
      @ComicDrake  3 роки тому +2

      I haven't really dived into researching that yet, but are you sure it's the same shield? I'd love your source if you have it.

    • @EnerKaizer
      @EnerKaizer 3 роки тому +4

      @@ComicDrake Maybe the translation screwed something up (because I have the German version of that story), but Sharon heavily implies in that version that this shield was Walkers from his time in force works when she gives it to Steve. Mind you, that energy shield is for some reason orange during that story (which I honestly think could also be an error made by the colourist), but overall it seems like it was Walkers originally.
      Also: Said shield didn't survive Steves trip to Latveria and thus is never brought up again (because he got another bootleg one from Dr. Doom afterwards to go save Bill Clinton. Yes, seriously, and Clinton btw wields the real shield for a panel at the end)

  • @lucasshaver7789
    @lucasshaver7789 3 роки тому +5

    U.S. Agent was also an alternative skin in Marvel: Ultimate Alliance

  • @RayfieldA
    @RayfieldA 3 роки тому +3

    Wow, Walker's comic book story seems a bit of a mess. I can't wait to see what the Falcon and Winter Soldier series is going to pull from the comics for Walker's story in the MCU!

  • @maldon3659
    @maldon3659 3 роки тому +7

    I've read the storyline where John Walker became Captain America, I'm really intrigued with what they will do with him in Falcon and The Winter Soldier because of how little they've shown of him in the promo material

  • @hectorbarrera8046
    @hectorbarrera8046 3 роки тому +2

    I love the MCU John Walker. Hope he can be a his own kind of hero in the future.

  • @Wolffman109
    @Wolffman109 Рік тому +3

    Controversial opinion: John Walker was the only good part of The Falcon and the Winter Soldier.

    • @xgray2012
      @xgray2012 Рік тому +1

      That's not really a controversial opinion, dude. The whole TV series of "Falcon and the Winter Soldier" was just boring.

  • @AussieDragoon
    @AussieDragoon 3 роки тому +7

    I think Marvel should bring back the Dark Avengers with USAgent as the leader again. It'll give them a reason to re-power Skarr and bring Clint's brother back into action. The roster could be a Mix of the two versions of the team, with Skarr, Trickshot, Moonstone, Daken, and maybe even the current Venom to replace Mac Gargan. It could work as a pseudo-Thunderbolts team like it was in Walker's run with the team.

    • @BullseyeRey
      @BullseyeRey 3 роки тому

      You mean Skaar? There are other Gamma Mutates that would work better though.

    • @AussieDragoon
      @AussieDragoon 3 роки тому

      @@BullseyeRey Yes, I always forget which letter gets doubled. And I chose him because he was already on the team in Osborn's second team and USAgents team

    • @naquingreen1603
      @naquingreen1603 3 роки тому

      @@AussieDragoon
      Love Your Ideas for a New Dark Avengers Team, please continue with your Ideas for The team and Stories

  • @TheTeamIsSHaRP
    @TheTeamIsSHaRP 3 роки тому +3

    You need to start giving a bibliography of your reports so we can read the comics for ourselves.

  • @ziljin
    @ziljin 3 роки тому +9

    He's about to be in the new Captain America mini series with the other 3 captain americas and meeting 5 new Captain America's.

  • @ericmaddox8516
    @ericmaddox8516 3 роки тому +3

    How John Walker got the black costume. After Steve Rogers was brought back as Captain America, the government made a contract with Steve that made the Cap costume exclusively his in perpetuity. In exchange he had to give the government the black costume for John Walker to use as US Agent.

    • @grantbaugh2773
      @grantbaugh2773 3 роки тому +2

      Wish I could do more to bump this comment up, since it's exactly the right answer.

  • @luigiboi4244
    @luigiboi4244 3 роки тому +5

    Sorry I couldn’t be here at the start of the premiere. It was a great video nonetheless!

  • @DrPurpleLlamas
    @DrPurpleLlamas 3 роки тому +7

    This is all edited and fits together really well
    What an aesthetic.

    • @ComicDrake
      @ComicDrake  3 роки тому +4

      Welcome to the channel. :)

  • @waterh2o299
    @waterh2o299 3 роки тому +3

    Really liking the character in the MCU wonder if he's going to get his black suit

    • @Powerman293
      @Powerman293 3 роки тому

      It's speculated some of the Walker shots in the final episode trailer are fake outs and it's actually him in the black USAgent suit instead of the Captain America one.

  • @kotlolish
    @kotlolish 3 роки тому +1

    For a edgey cap clown start.. this guy eventually embodies blind faith , but eventually sees through the cracks what is wrong.
    The blind sheep that follows the herd, but when hanging off the cliff tries to turn it around to only follow a new herd down the cliff... He tries his best for everyone but always falls for flaws of his own grandeurr and sense of duty.
    It sucks no one really knows what to do with him, but he clearly is the everyday hero admirer, turned hero, but still not having the fortitude of one. Thus easily blinded. Yep I like him too.
    Good vid drake.

  • @TheCreepypro
    @TheCreepypro 3 роки тому +2

    wow I had heard of this guy but had no idea he had such an interesting and varied history glad I'm subbed to this channel so can be updated about such things and if your reading this and your not subbed you should get on that just saying....

  • @CaptainPikeachu
    @CaptainPikeachu 2 роки тому +2

    I really hope to see you do a video on John’s recent appearances in his solo series, and the United States of Captain America story, and the recent Devil’s Reign arc because I think it really illustrates the point that when given to writers who know how to handle him and explore his character, he’s deeply fascinating and his continuous journey to grow and be a better person is so very relatable. Wyatt Russell has been pitch perfect as the MCU version of this character and I really hope the films and shows will also give him more screentime in the future to develop and explore his perspective and history.

  • @thatneli
    @thatneli 3 роки тому +7

    I can't wait to see more of his character

  • @kubamcmillan3078
    @kubamcmillan3078 3 роки тому +2

    Because of you I started reading comics

  • @the503creepout7
    @the503creepout7 3 роки тому +4

    I really hope that in the falcon & ws show they make the US Agent character like this squeaky clean, marketable, commercial brand type in front of the cameras who does automobile endorsements & cereal advertisements BUT behind the scenes he's this fascist, Trumpian, alt-right, nationalist extremist. That would be such a fun direction to take the character in today's politically polarized America.
    Just my 2 ¢

  • @BattleDamageProps
    @BattleDamageProps Рік тому +1

    What I like about USAgent is how both charecters are proponents of American Exceptionalism. It's just that Steve Rogers believes it's the people that make up America and their values is what's worth fighting for. Where as Walker Texas Agent believes the Government of America and the system upon which it was built is worth defending. Both Charecters are exceptionaly patriotic.
    Funny enough, Steve's want for less Government in peoples lives and more focus on neighbors helping neighbors would Align his values closer to the Republican Party.
    This is all irrelevant though since Wolverine can beat the shit oit of these yankee doodles, therby proving the supremeacy of Canada 🇨🇦. Take that you Star Spangled Hosers.

  • @JamesLawner
    @JamesLawner 3 роки тому +2

    KGBeast, USAgent. I love these wacky names.

  • @MegaDK47
    @MegaDK47 3 роки тому +1

    Poor guy, the government keeps him around to be their personal fall guy, all the firings, demotions and disbanding of his teams, John Walker is the go to scape goat apparently, also I 100% believe they keep him around BECAUSE of his violent tendencies and willingness to "get the job done" that Cap and other heroes aren't willing to do.

  • @BullyGarfield.
    @BullyGarfield. 3 роки тому +3

    POV: You are here after watching the Winter Soldier and The falcon show

  • @MikelWash
    @MikelWash 3 роки тому +2

    Are you ready to Rebrand this channel as “Because Comics”?

  • @rob-6497
    @rob-6497 3 роки тому +17

    i have no idea what makes a person enlist in the army, the concept itself blows my mind

    • @ComicDrake
      @ComicDrake  3 роки тому +33

      As much as I really don't like the military, I know that it's necessary, just not to the extent that the United States keeps theirs.
      I don't fundamentally think that every soldier is a hero and I also don't understand what could compel someone to enlist, but I'm glad and thankful for the people that do so I don't have to.

    • @EricMarr-do7bd
      @EricMarr-do7bd 3 роки тому +6

      A lot of benefits like your kids get free college tuition, tax cuts, medical costs, and a lot more

    • @ghost_kinggamer
      @ghost_kinggamer 3 роки тому +4

      @@kaprio551 There's no gratitude from leftists and I'm black my dude...the world changed a lot

    • @devineggins4
      @devineggins4 3 роки тому

      Well- benefits, a call of duty and lack of stuff to do with life can be major benefactors. They were for me atleast

    • @TheAntiSanta
      @TheAntiSanta 3 роки тому +11

      Constant Propaganda that gets people posting stuff like, "they sacrifice their comfort and happiness out there , you people get to sleep peacefully at night," as if killing a bunch of people in the middle east wasn't the reason so many groups want us dead in the first place. Or poverty leaving you with very little options outside of enlistment. Those are the two big ones. Usually both.
      Also, not everyone who ends up in the Military even ends up deployed to a combat zone, and an even smaller percent of that group will actually end up being anywhere they could "nobly sacrifice themselves to protect people thousands of miles away sleeping in their beds." Yeah, I really need to show my gratitude all the 92Gs who cook meals for the Army Officers who give the orders to get some twenty year old kids high on patriotism killed.

  • @stickingaround_
    @stickingaround_ 3 роки тому +1

    9:03
    Try as he might, his comic will struggle.
    Now everybody do, "The Johnny Walker Shuffle"!

  • @hectorbarrera8046
    @hectorbarrera8046 3 роки тому +1

    I mean... Can you honestly *blame* for lashing out at those assholes after what they did to his family?

  • @BullseyeRey
    @BullseyeRey 3 роки тому +3

    Correction, Walker himself didn't want any cybernetic enhancements because he didn't want to be like Nuke.

  • @brockenglish7602
    @brockenglish7602 3 роки тому +2

    I wonder if the Flag Smashers in The Falcon and The Winter Soldier turn out to be plants like the Hate Crime Cap Fans from the comics. Maybe whoever is behind Walker created them aswell.

    • @BizzarosGarden
      @BizzarosGarden 3 роки тому +1

      Yeah I thought the same thing, John Walker and some of the Flag Smashers recently being super soldiers can't be a coincidence

  • @Gliding-Admiral
    @Gliding-Admiral 3 роки тому +3

    At the beganing US Agent kind of felt like Homelander. But then again, that's just how i feel.

    • @BullseyeRey
      @BullseyeRey 3 роки тому

      Didn't USAgent come first?

    • @Gliding-Admiral
      @Gliding-Admiral 3 роки тому

      @@BullseyeRey i meant by their character ark, and how US Agent's character felt like Homelander at the begening. Didn’t mean that US Agent is a copy cat of Homelander

  • @larrychappell6677
    @larrychappell6677 3 роки тому +1

    When Steve re-accepted the job of Captain America he gave Walker the Captain uniform knowing he was going to continue being a hero. He was then renamed U. S. Agent and Steve resumed the role of Cap. America.

  • @karimC35
    @karimC35 3 роки тому +2

    Reagan would definitely love John walker

  • @NumeroBruno
    @NumeroBruno 3 роки тому +2

    I misread the thumbnail as "U.S.A. Gent", the American Gentleman 😆

  • @jeffma7507
    @jeffma7507 3 роки тому +2

    *There’s only one captain America man, And I’m pretty sure he doesn’t dress like that.*

  • @hmuifuscared
    @hmuifuscared 3 роки тому +1

    Wow this video aged very well after the final episode. The views are just pouring in

  • @benjaminmuratore9341
    @benjaminmuratore9341 3 роки тому +3

    I remember reading a large trade that contained the debut storyline of U.S.Agent in it's entirety.

  • @Babbling_Wizard
    @Babbling_Wizard 3 роки тому +2

    So he's "Agent Whisky", it's a Kingsman reference

  • @nihitkhunteta6137
    @nihitkhunteta6137 3 роки тому +1

    6:26
    I'm betting on the fact that they made a copy of it

  • @evanabbott2737
    @evanabbott2737 3 роки тому +2

    2:15: there’s people running around doing shit like that these days....the world’s been beyond insane for so long now...😂

  • @nont18411
    @nont18411 3 роки тому +1

    3:52 Holy shit! The show was straight-up from the comics.

  • @mattwo7
    @mattwo7 3 роки тому +2

    6:41 Wonder if this rivalry will come up in the Hawkeye show. Even if Kate Bishop takes over the role of Hawkeye in it.

  • @wingknigt6944
    @wingknigt6944 3 роки тому +1

    You can hold that shield all you want. It still will not make you Captain American.
    That goes for anyone movies, comics, or tv shows

  • @thefurnace116
    @thefurnace116 3 роки тому +1

    Hey Comic Drake! Would you consider US Agent a Hero, Anti-Hero, or Villain in the MCU. Me and my friends have been debating this

  • @Fanatic_Foremem
    @Fanatic_Foremem 3 роки тому +4

    was worried Mace was retconned for a second but looking it up it seems his character was Patriot.

    • @L1701
      @L1701 3 роки тому +1

      Yup. He became the third Captain America after the second one (William Naslund, aka the Spirit of ‘76) was killed fighting a mad robot called Adam II in 1946. He retired from the Cap role in 1949.

  • @nirast2561
    @nirast2561 3 роки тому +2

    Now, if he was a British gentleman working for/that emigrated to the United States, he'd be a U.S.A. Gent :P

  • @madhukarg8052
    @madhukarg8052 3 роки тому +1

    Man what a research one of the best videos ever cool

  • @donovanlarsen7982
    @donovanlarsen7982 3 роки тому +2

    Actually, I would just like to mention that John never actually had his limbs properly regrown. He was given a lobotomized Venom Symbiote to use as prosthesis and Marvel somehow didn’t expand on this at all following this; most likely being completely forgotten about to this day, which is a shame because of The King in Black event going on right now.

    • @richardauthement3105
      @richardauthement3105 3 роки тому

      odds are they forgot and just rolled with him having all his limbs.

  • @passionthevirgo
    @passionthevirgo 3 роки тому +1

    No one:
    US Agent: MAN, F*CK THIS SH*T!!

  • @honestjosh786
    @honestjosh786 3 роки тому +2

    I read the storyline when I was a kid I don't think they ever mention how They got the captain's gear. they just did it

  • @darkbloodcyan2749
    @darkbloodcyan2749 3 роки тому +2

    9:20 WAIT WAIT WAIT!!! HE WAS IN RESIDENT EVIL ?!?!?