I'll add a master comment here to compile answers to questions, feedback/suggestions, etc so you can check here if Ive already answered a question Edit 9/03/2024 Thanks for the warm early reception. Since exporting and uploading took forever I just uploaded and went to sleep late at night. I'll address some things now. 1) Video Chapters I've added some video chapters to easily navigate between different parts of the video. I was already aware of how most people probably wouldn't want to watch through the entire tier list or battle explanation, so the chapters are there now for your ease of use. 2) Audio I saw this one coming from a mile away but the audio quality is terrible especially from the battle explanation (for that section that was my second take, I was too tired to do a third and just decided to caption it) and the only real excuse I have is that for this video I didn't really use a mic at all- I never thought I would ever make a video where speaking was necessary so I didn't make any relevant preparations in this department. In the future though I will make more ample prep and tweak some settings that I am only NOW aware of if I make videos like these, so my apologies to you all. 3) How does Plymouth compare to Gibraltar I personally haven't played a lot of Gibraltar but from what I have played, Gibraltar is a lot more focused on damage farming, the ship has a lot of armour related weaknesses similar to Plymouth but you have a lot less utility, and even though your AP is really good against destroyers you are going to constantly to be zoned out since you don't have the capacity to spot them It is similar at the beginning of the game where you help your DD, but it feels a lot more limiting because you don't have the consumable kit other than smoke. Instead you ahve punchier guns which honestly are kinda fun to use, you have good gun caliber AP with a really good reload for the gun's size and is nice against CLs covered with 16mm Another thing which I actually didn't really mention as an advantage of Plymouth in the video (that one of the players I asked/interviewed of Plymouth mentioned as a really good point) is that the ship is incredibly compact when it needs to set up its gimmick/gameplay loop, the ship is small, has a low smoke firing and doesn't need to really move around (which requires more space) like kiting/juking cruisers. Compared to Plymouth Gibraltar needs a lot more space to operate because you have a higher smoke firing penalty, have a need to kite and move around and are less maneuverable so you need more space to idle around and have an escape path. All in all, Gibraltar gun is pretty fun tbh, it is definitely more gun focused, while Plymouth is smaller, more compact, and more utility focused 4) Where's your build Here: app.wowssb.com/ship?shipIndexes=PBSC510 5) Where's this doc you're talking about? Here: docs.google.com/document/d/1MB70O0Nsi9Nt7VL1qBy2D2A5siuPfs1iKjPIZRfePQE/edit Understand though it is a little bit outdated. 6) How does Plymouth compare to Belfast '43? Actually probably the closest comparison to Plymouth's role, but Belfast '43 is much inferior in performing this role. Their battle role is theoretically the same, but B43 lacks something very important I call 'staying power'- essentially the ability to stay sedentary in one position and control territory around it. As said in the video, though Plymouth lacks the raw torpedo or gunpower to outmatch some other defensive cruisers, Plymouth's staying power is arguably better than cruisers like Jinan because destroyers do not easily zone you out because of radar, and other ships and CVs don't zone you out as easily because of smoke (unlike something like for e.g. DM). B43 has a similar role to Plymouth because theoretically, it also has these tools. In fact, B43 actually has better conceal and thus a smaller distance between its conceal and radar ranges (which tbh isn't that noticeable when I played B43). The problem with B43 is that all of these tools: smoke, radar and firepower are vastly inferior to Plymouth, whether it be short burst smoke which protects you for a limited amount of time, radar duration that is short and can't match the capture timer of a point, or incredibly bad DPM that doesn't work to discourage pushes (even if you have HE). So essentially, B43 ends up being more limited and far more dependent on good teammates then Plymouth, though they should be really performing the same role.
Sort of Belfast 43 I guess, but Bel 43 is incredibly limited in terms of dpm and radar duration. In my document I discussed a concept of how one of the reasons why B43 is not good is that it lacks the 'staying power' of a Plymouth
Would you recommend Plymouth if you're a player that enjoys Belfast'43? I know that Belfast '43 has HE and short smokes, but after watching the video, it feels similar, although the short smokes may force you to reposition/move a lot more.
Tbh yes, Plymouth is basically a way better B43 is every regard. Even if you don't have fire setting capacity B43's DPM is so bad Plymouth feels way better anyway. I'll add a more detailed answer to the master comment later
Terrific in-depth guide, I love videos on underrated ships. Plymouth being a strong area denial ship is very interesting. If possible try to lower the in-game sound a bit when doing voice over, sometimes the in-game noises are drowning out your voice when doing that game commentary. I'm not familiar with video creation myself, but perhaps that can be adjusted in the recording or editing software if the in game audio is normal volume to you.
yeah that was a problem I realised when I made the video, it was because I used nvidia to record it as I wanted to make it a bit more authentic and record most of the voice while I was playing mid-game. I didn't really want to do everything again so I subtitled the parts where I knew people would struggle to hear above the in-game audio, I'll try to resolve this problem if I make a guide in the future
I don't see how their ethnicity or nationality is relevant to game performance The fact is that jedai is the best Plym player PR wise on EU, and he did nearly all of it solo
I didn't really mention either because they basically play outside game rules, but subs would be either S/A tier currently and CVs same depending on what CV, there is no way you are killing ot winning against either if they focus you and aren't dumb
I'll add a master comment here to compile answers to questions, feedback/suggestions, etc so you can check here if Ive already answered a question
Edit 9/03/2024
Thanks for the warm early reception. Since exporting and uploading took forever I just uploaded and went to sleep late at night. I'll address some things now.
1) Video Chapters
I've added some video chapters to easily navigate between different parts of the video. I was already aware of how most people probably wouldn't want to watch through the entire tier list or battle explanation, so the chapters are there now for your ease of use.
2) Audio
I saw this one coming from a mile away but the audio quality is terrible especially from the battle explanation (for that section that was my second take, I was too tired to do a third and just decided to caption it) and the only real excuse I have is that for this video I didn't really use a mic at all- I never thought I would ever make a video where speaking was necessary so I didn't make any relevant preparations in this department. In the future though I will make more ample prep and tweak some settings that I am only NOW aware of if I make videos like these, so my apologies to you all.
3) How does Plymouth compare to Gibraltar
I personally haven't played a lot of Gibraltar but from what I have played, Gibraltar is a lot more focused on damage farming, the ship has a lot of armour related weaknesses similar to Plymouth but you have a lot less utility, and even though your AP is really good against destroyers you are going to constantly to be zoned out since you don't have the capacity to spot them
It is similar at the beginning of the game where you help your DD, but it feels a lot more limiting because you don't have the consumable kit other than smoke. Instead you ahve punchier guns which honestly are kinda fun to use, you have good gun caliber AP with a really good reload for the gun's size and is nice against CLs covered with 16mm
Another thing which I actually didn't really mention as an advantage of Plymouth in the video (that one of the players I asked/interviewed of Plymouth mentioned as a really good point) is that the ship is incredibly compact when it needs to set up its gimmick/gameplay loop, the ship is small, has a low smoke firing and doesn't need to really move around (which requires more space) like kiting/juking cruisers. Compared to Plymouth Gibraltar needs a lot more space to operate because you have a higher smoke firing penalty, have a need to kite and move around and are less maneuverable so you need more space to idle around and have an escape path.
All in all, Gibraltar gun is pretty fun tbh, it is definitely more gun focused, while Plymouth is smaller, more compact, and more utility focused
4) Where's your build
Here: app.wowssb.com/ship?shipIndexes=PBSC510
5) Where's this doc you're talking about?
Here: docs.google.com/document/d/1MB70O0Nsi9Nt7VL1qBy2D2A5siuPfs1iKjPIZRfePQE/edit
Understand though it is a little bit outdated.
6) How does Plymouth compare to Belfast '43?
Actually probably the closest comparison to Plymouth's role, but Belfast '43 is much inferior in performing this role.
Their battle role is theoretically the same, but B43 lacks something very important I call 'staying power'- essentially the ability to stay sedentary in one position and control territory around it. As said in the video, though Plymouth lacks the raw torpedo or gunpower to outmatch some other defensive cruisers, Plymouth's staying power is arguably better than cruisers like Jinan because destroyers do not easily zone you out because of radar, and other ships and CVs don't zone you out as easily because of smoke (unlike something like for e.g. DM).
B43 has a similar role to Plymouth because theoretically, it also has these tools. In fact, B43 actually has better conceal and thus a smaller distance between its conceal and radar ranges (which tbh isn't that noticeable when I played B43). The problem with B43 is that all of these tools: smoke, radar and firepower are vastly inferior to Plymouth, whether it be short burst smoke which protects you for a limited amount of time, radar duration that is short and can't match the capture timer of a point, or incredibly bad DPM that doesn't work to discourage pushes (even if you have HE). So essentially, B43 ends up being more limited and far more dependent on good teammates then Plymouth, though they should be really performing the same role.
Really enjoyed the guide wanted to check the doc but its broken i think. What a shame.
Can't believe you actually used that game for your vid at 50:00. That Venezia was me! Awesome work on the guide too.
@@RileyCannon-u3k nice to see u here, ggs
ah shit i didn't even realise it was 1hr, i just saw it was from fatfluffypenguin and clicked.
Today I finally finished the steel farming, and I will get Plymouth over Stalingrad, wish me luck...
I think Plymouth is what you get if you put Belfast 43 or maybe edinbruh 2 tiers higher
Sort of Belfast 43 I guess, but Bel 43 is incredibly limited in terms of dpm and radar duration. In my document I discussed a concept of how one of the reasons why B43 is not good is that it lacks the 'staying power' of a Plymouth
CL’s - high risk, high reward
What Text to speech you use for that videos?
Balabolka
This is the crutiest audio ive ever heard
Excellent Guide, fun memes and so much Wisdom 10/10 would watch again.
An 1-hour guide from Plymouth lover for Plymouth lovers, love it =)
Thanks for the stream of plym pics
damn, you weren't lying when you said your current audio setup isn't good. Still a great guide for a great ship tho
Would you recommend Plymouth if you're a player that enjoys Belfast'43? I know that Belfast '43 has HE and short smokes, but after watching the video, it feels similar, although the short smokes may force you to reposition/move a lot more.
Tbh yes, Plymouth is basically a way better B43 is every regard. Even if you don't have fire setting capacity B43's DPM is so bad Plymouth feels way better anyway.
I'll add a more detailed answer to the master comment later
@@FatFluffyPenguin thanks!
Terrific in-depth guide, I love videos on underrated ships. Plymouth being a strong area denial ship is very interesting.
If possible try to lower the in-game sound a bit when doing voice over, sometimes the in-game noises are drowning out your voice when doing that game commentary. I'm not familiar with video creation myself, but perhaps that can be adjusted in the recording or editing software if the in game audio is normal volume to you.
yeah that was a problem I realised when I made the video, it was because I used nvidia to record it as I wanted to make it a bit more authentic and record most of the voice while I was playing mid-game. I didn't really want to do everything again so I subtitled the parts where I knew people would struggle to hear above the in-game audio, I'll try to resolve this problem if I make a guide in the future
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Thanks stoobletington
good vid
"..titanic work to be sure but I'm too stupid to comprehend it"
Perfection has been achieved
Asking opinion of 2 ruzzians... its like to have a sweat conversation with guys from Al-Qaeda.
Cant accept it
I don't see how their ethnicity or nationality is relevant to game performance
The fact is that jedai is the best Plym player PR wise on EU, and he did nearly all of it solo
Bruh
Doesn't matter as long as he's not a z-nationalist.@@FatFluffyPenguin
It really shows this ship kind'a sucks when it was compared being in the Philippines... LOL
I mean CLs especially if you are solo and don't have a smokebot or something is kind of up there in suffering oftentimes
What about CV's in TierList?
I didn't really mention either because they basically play outside game rules, but subs would be either S/A tier currently and CVs same depending on what CV, there is no way you are killing ot winning against either if they focus you and aren't dumb
How does it compare to the Gibraltar?
I'll post an answer in the pinned comment
the most annoying ai voice ever!
Apologies for that, I don't think any other AI voice would be more appealing, and the game does have a bit if a culture around using it
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