Travel Buddy 12 Volt Oven Insulated Door Mod?
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- Опубліковано 12 лип 2024
- Installation and Testing the Kaon Travel Buddy Insulated Door mod.
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What's your best Travel Buddy mod or hack?
Lock your Hubs 4WDing hi we just brought a road chef all work done and works great
Great stuff again mate. I've had a TB for years. 99% of the time I only use it while driving and the other 1% I hook the auxiliary battery up to Solar when stationary. If I do a roast I allow plenty of time... and if it's just pies I do the same. So long as it comes out when I want, cooked how I want, I'm happy. I don't expect or need it to cook as good as my oven at home, but if others do... that's fine as well. I'll put my $60 toward more roasts or pies (or croissants... they go awesome in the TB). Keep up the great work... really enjoy your vids. Cheers 🍻
Thanks mate, though if you really want to smarten up your TB, check out the video on voltage step ups. They really do transform the little oven.
Really like your videos mate. Have bought a Travel Buddy for my 76 and getting ready to try it out.
Keep up the good work old chap ! !
Thanks mate, I appreciate the kind words!
Just found this channel and am a fan! 4wd related but science and facts!
Thanks mate, we think anyone can spout opinion, but data is where the real fact are.
Crikey, the proofs in the pudding ok...I expected the insulated door to romp it in, so never expected that result! Very good, and thanks for doing that test. The guys at travel buddy know what they are doing, they must've been chuckling behind the scenes as the test was performed. I reckon they knew the result ahead of the test - or they are relieved someone didn't show a flaw in their design - I reckon the former - they know what they are doing..
Yep, I suspect the people down at TB would have tested an insulated door and come to the same conclusion as we have. It's not really worth the extra expense and the performance deficit for not insulating the door is minimal.
Now the rest of us know as well!
@@LockyourHubs4WDing That is the most plausible explanation re TB. Still seems counter-intuitive that the door being at 63oC only accounts for a small part of the losses, but the numbers don't lie, so tail between legs time....
Thanks for this! Always interesting. I do like the Kaon stuff though.
Us too, I bought the trivet for the TB trays at the same time, looks to be great quality.
I gave you 3 thumbs up.
Great work as always.👍👍👍
Thanks!
Excellent work, thanks. I’m more interested in whether the insulated door keeps cooler on the exterior during operation compared to the original door… Ought to be obvious, some data however would sell me! Love your channel, keep it up, g’day from bloody Melbourne!
The door does eventually get as hot as a standard door, though the time it takes to get there is delayed.
Great job!
Thanks!
Could be worthwhile thermally isolating direct heat conduction between inner door and outer cover. Use fibre washers between the two lots of metalwork and could be worth under the supporting nuts. That way there is no direct heat conduction path between the door inner and outer skin and thus give the insulation a bit of a chance. If you still have this oven to try this out I would be interested if this would help. Nearest prominent hardware store likely have fibre washers close to requirements.
You might actually be into something there.
I think it does make a substantial difference, 20deg higher will make a big difference when cooking a roast and the fact the temp doesn’t drop as much as the thermostatic control turns off and on will also make a big difference especially when baking cakes. Could possibly take as much as one hour off the cooking time of a roast and just better result when baking with a more stable heat.
Thanks for the vid didn’t know they existed I’ll be getting one straight away.
Glad you like the video mate!
great reviews ,i,m dying for someone to give you a road chef oven to compare with the travel buddy,there the biggest players on the market and i,m sick of people saying they think there oven heats up faster or gets hotter .facts are better than guess work .keep up the good work
Thanks! We would love to do a performance and side by side teardown of the Travel Buddy vs Road Chef, just need to find someone with one they'll let me tear apart!
You'll be happy to hear I've managed to wrangle a Road Chef for review :)
@@LockyourHubs4WDing wicked ,i,m gonna get one for Christmas but i keep changing my mind on which one.i buy things on stats ,that way i,m not disappointed .just a habit i,ve gotten into
Good job mate. I'll be saving my dollars I think. Cheers.
Yep, I could have! But you have to test these things before you know.
@@LockyourHubs4WDing Exactly. Fortunately for me, you spent your dollars so I didn't have to. That works for me. Cheers.
@@gqwarrior6694 haha!
I think the door and most definitely the Anderson plug upgrades are definitely the way to go if stationary…….. amps etc etc
The Andreson should be standard!
@@LockyourHubs4WDing agreed. Even though not expensive, quite odd it is not standard
I was surprised to see the kit was added to the outside of the original door. I would have thought that in order to get better performance, adding insulation to the inside of the existing door would do a better job. I am thinking about spraying some Sika fire rated expanding foam in to the hollow behind the original door.
I assume it's done like that so the trays they already sell fit without modifications.
Great test. What was the battery voltage ? (was the test simulating battery on its own 12.5v approx. or was it with altenator charging 14.4v?)
The testing was all done on a consistant 14.2V.
I think some of the heat losses are from the vents in the original door. I wonder how it would go if an insulated panel was fitted into the door like the Road Chef.
No doubt a little lost there, but you need your pastry crispy! I don't think there would be too much different where the door was insulated, either out or inside.
cheers for saving me $60
Anytime! Just pay it forward 🙂
Where are you mate haven’t seen any footage lately
We miss ya
I coming back! (there were a couple of computer issues to sort through, and life got in the way for a while) look out for next Sunday, I've a video coming out that I'm really happy with. And a few more lined up after that!
@@LockyourHubs4WDing great to see I hope all is well
Was the outside of the door cooler to the touch? Just from a safety point it might be worth doing.
After running for a while, both door temps were within a couple of degrees of each other.
Sounds like the insulated door might have insufficient insulation to be effective. Thanks for the video.
one thing you didn't show was the outside surface temp this is where the difference could have been?
Unfortunately, I forgot to add the FLIR photos of the front doors after a couple of hours of operation. The standard door reached 63.2C and the insulated door 59.2C, so not much in it.
wow would have thought it would have been more than that!
How about the outside temperature of the uninsulated door vs insulated door? Do you have measurements of those. It's this that I'd like to address if I tackle this mod (ie. reduce the outside door temp).
I haven't measured it, though as both the inner and outer skin join around the edge, it get's eventually to around the same temperature. It's just that the insulated door takes longer to get there.
Nice! This seemed to be a no brainer for me. I just can't believe the door doesn't have factory insulation???... It would be nice to know the difference in power consumption. I'm sure there is a thermostat that controls the temp so really, you shouldn't expect much of a difference. But maybe the insulated door decreased power consumption significantly?
Not significantly, though as the thermostat would be cycling less, there would be a small battery capacity saving.
@@LockyourHubs4WDing ...Not significantly? Opinion or fact? Just curious. The other 5 walls/sides are obviously insulated, so I'd expect something in the realm of 10% to 15% better efficiency if one out of 6 was insulated. Anyway, doesn't really matter. You did well and I learned something...Tick!
Hmmm I haven't measured it, though you could make a rough estimate, extrapolating the data on the pie cooking graph and the pre-heating graph, as the oven pulls a consistent amount of current and the thermostat just turns the element on and off. Just measure the on times of both and subtract one from the other.
@@LockyourHubs4WDing which is?
I'd love to see a similar comparison but with a powermeter. I'm curious how many Wh each would use over say a 2 hour period.
Great idea!
@@LockyourHubs4WDing I have subscribed so I don't miss it 😉
i would think that the insulation would need to go over the door and a bit over the face of the oven to insulate and makeup for the edges where the heat probably escaping and the material didnt look like it went to every spot..
It would be slightly more efficient, though you eventually reach a point of diminishing returns. Where the extra effort required to completely insulate it, isn't worth the returns.
Hi travel buddy owners. I have just got a road chef unit and I noticed the inside bottom stainless steel plate will expend and puff up to the point touching the lower rack. Does this appear normal or I have got a faulty unit?
We're currently testing the Road Chef and haven't noticed the bottom swelling and interfering with the operation of the lower rack.
I have a travel buddy which does the same, still works ok though
did ya measure the road chef door????? wunder if they are they same size as travel buddy.... was away on a trip and she was 5c outside and the Oven barely worked :(
The road chef door is already insulated, if you're not happy with the performance, you can install a step-up to really get it moving.
@@LockyourHubs4WDing the door is just stainless steel and let's the heat out :(
I allso run Lithium so that's basically a step up allready ;)
road chef or travel buddy ,which would heat up faster
You'll be happy to know we're almost done testing the Road Chef against the Travel Buddy. Keep an eye out for the vid.
@@LockyourHubs4WDing nice i just subbed i dont want to miss that .any e.t.a on that one
@@davidspud3004 It'll be done before the end of the year.
my best travel buddy mod was not buy a travel buddy and buy the road chef which has all the mods done already,
Just don't say that on the Travel Buddy FB group page! Lol
Lock your Hubs 4WDing haa but it’s true, travel buddy need to lift their game if they want Aussies to buy Australian products,
So this makes me think it's time to open one up and look at the insulation inside...
My thoughts exactly, would like to do a road chef and travel buddy side by side teardown. Now just need to find someone with one, that would let me tear it apart!
How’s the performance on 24v?
There's a 24v version of the oven. This is the 12v version. Though we're looking to get better performance out of the oven while just on battery using some DC to DC converters at 13.8 and 15V to see if we can give it a move along.
@@LockyourHubs4WDing I had exactly the same thought. The oven is rated at 120w at 10amps so they must assume it's going to be at about 12v input after some voltage drop. I assume it's OK to run upto 14.4v, I have tried mine at 13.8 and it draws about 11.5 amps. I am using the BST900 DC2DC converter. Does anybody have any thoughts on the maximum current that they would recommend? How high a voltage have you tried and for how long? I believe the element is just a nichrome wire? Will is current limit itself with heat?
What the hell is the obsession with insulating the Travel Buddy door?! I've owned a TB for so long I can't even remember when I bought it, the bloody thing works spot on straight from the factory, I repeat it works, it does what it's supposed to do, just leave the bloody thing alone and enjoy it, it ain't broke, stop trying to fix it ffs!
It's all about making a better mouse trap. A horse and gig worked as transport, but the motor car has evolved into a better means of transport.
Things need to evolve for the better, or they get left by the wayside.
Lock your Hubs 4WDing the TB cooks meat pies mate, it does the job that it was built for, I know coz I've owned one for longer than most, your own very thorough test has just proved that this insulated door bs is just that, a waste of money and effort! In my opinion, whack an Anderson plug on the end of the lead and that's it, job done! You used the analogy of transport, I'll give you one of my own, I'm a retired builder, with all of the amazing technology available to tradies now, such as laser levels, cordless battery tools and the like, one of the best, most reliable and valuable tools in your toolbox is a string line! Nothing has or ever will replace a string line coz it works! Some things just work and they don't really need evolving! And by the way, I forgot to mention, you did an excellent job on this review. Keep up the good work. Cheers mate 👍
Thanks mate. Coming from the building trade, you would have seen mains powered tools almost completely replaced with brushless battery hand tools. There's nothing wrong with my 5" 240v Angle grinder either, but today I went to cut some allthread and grabbed the brushless angle grinder. Why? Well, it was good enough to do the job and I didn't have to run an extension lead across the yard. It's just evolution.
Yeah not worth $60 that’s fir sure.. take it to china get the corners mig and sell for $30 you might have yourself a deal
MIG stainless, TIG please..... :)