Are they really different? Dunks vs SB Dunk
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- Опубліковано 16 тра 2024
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Nike Dunks VS SB Dunks Review - What's the difference between regular dunks and SB dunks? They look almost identical but people including nike claim there are important differences between dunks and dunk sb so we bought a few pairs to see what's inside, what the difference is, and if the Nike Sb line is really made for skate boarding or if they are just marketed for skating.
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TIMESTAMPS:
0:00 - Intro
2:02 - Dunks History
3:07 - Regular Dunk Leather Info
3:58 - SB Dunk Leather Info
4:45 - SB Dunk Suede Info
6:04 - Big Differences
7:15 - Zoom Air Unit Info
7:42 - Drop Test
8:35 - Griptape Test
10:51 - Cut in Half
12:27 - Analysis
13:39 - Are the SB’s Better?
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please try nike sb alleyoop
would love to know your opinion on retails vs replicas from a production standpoint. Lots of replica brands claim to be made identically as retail; some even priced the same way. End of the day, I'd like to know how much it really costs to make and if getting replicas is an "acceptable" option.
Dope comment and I agree. Please do a video like this!
That's way more complicated, as replicas go from grading.
The higher the grading, the close to 1:1 to the naked eye it is.
They will look pretty much 100% exact. BUT the quality of materials and overall construction will be worse. You might not see it, but you will absolutely feel it when wearing them.
Some replicas use better materials, and sometimes better quality than retail - You just need to get pointed in the right direction…
@@SuperJolla84 On the contrary, they feel the exact same on foot. On retro products like dunks, Jordan 1s, etc. a lot of materials used are quite similar or exactly the same grade, and today, replica manufacturers have the construction down pretty well - just look at the amount of reverse mocha travis 1s floating around so soon after release. Comparing the retails and replicas they feel pretty comparable, not 1:1 mind you, but 98% of people could easily be fooled.
this channel stands as a middle finger to pretentious hypey products, love it so much
no it doesn't. YOU are adding that lens to it.
@@Ozhull yes, in my opinion it does
I don't think it's a middle finger per se. It's more about exposing the truth from which we (consumer) make choices. After seeing their videos however, I am less likely to buy these types of sneakers.
@@AGALIANO16 yeah, like it's absurd the markup for brand sneakers sometimes when you see them for their qualities
@@xxwizurdxx ... You just conceded to my point lmao. Weirdo.
I used to hate on Nikes but I tried a pair of SB dunk Highs and it changed my skating comletely. Hands down one of the best designed shoes for skating out there, not even hype or anything. Only downside is nonskaters selling them for hundreds
I’m curious what makes them great for skating in your experience?
@@orangetweleve a lot of the good points have been said in this video, pay a bit more attention to it.
@@orangetweleve You can feel the skateboard through your toes more. Light shoe. And a bit of better and more controlled heel impacts.
@@orangetweleve Look good, feel good, feel good, skate good. simple.
@@Scuzei Yeah but why the spamming, when you could had perfectly put it together in one single comment?
Worth noting that the upper configuration differs too. And Dunk SB’s have changed quite a bit over time, a pair from 2004 is noticeably different from a pair from 2014.
Yeah he failed to mention the Pro B line which was the precursor to the SB, pretty lame comparison, didn’t mention the zoom in the middle of the outsole on the SB being a separate piece, and a lot of other well known differences
@@vnclejed1971 Pro B was the first nike dunk that came with the fat Toungs.
@@vnclejed1971 they’re all trash. Sorry bro, you’ve been buying trash for years.
This series has become a great source of consumer advice! Thanks for doing this!
Especially thanks to the transparency established with the scratching, singing, and cutting open of the shoes!
the SBs did actually improve along the years , cause the insole and tongue padding were some of the first features , along with oval laces and a spare pair of laces that came in 2002 but then around 09/10 some minor changes went on ( in 2006 a dunk mid was added to the line with already some of the feature that were going to be changed a few years after) then in 2011/12 they actually changed the whole build adding heel padding for Achille's tendon and for slippage, the inner construction changed becoming seamless and adding protection for the first 2 eyelets , then midsole was reworked to give more grip , and add more boardfeel on forefoot keeping impact protection on heels
I believe still materials on early '00 were better but they went back with some better quality in latest releases
It's still made out that cheap ass leather
@@bwest8372not anymore did you see the albino and pretos?
@@ashye8546 you can't wear em for 5 years. I've had my elephant skin Tony lamas since 1986 and they still look dang near new. Those won't sit flat after 2 months if you wear em every day.
shoutout rose anvil
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Up!
Yes please
Definitely!
Agreed popular suggestions es, emerica, ds, etnies, Adidas.
What an anticipated much needed insight into the different Dunks! Wore Nike SB Dunk Pros for well over 5 years (1 pair) before they wore out and they truely were near on destroyed, still have them actually. There were so comfortable, hard wearing and to my eye looked incredible. Over a decade later and theyre worth silly money and hard to come by! Thankfully bought another of the same pair (Ice Pink Varsity Blue I think they're labeled) just a year before they started becoming so popular and expensive...for less than £30 might I add
Grab reps man
I love how the cat just comes up and stands in front of the camera 😂
I’m not even a fan of Nike, but the people in here saying that Nike isn’t a skate brand, clearly haven’t looked at the amount of money they put back into skateboarding over the years. Are they a traditional skate brand? Obviously no. At first they were widely rejected back in the early 2000s by skaters. The thing is, they put a massive amount of money into designing the proper shoes and building up a fantastic team that wanted to endorse what they were doing. You have to give them some credit. And again I’m not even necessarily a fan.
I love your honest reviews/breakdowns!! You got a new subscriber here 🙋 keep the 🔥 coming!
Great idea for this video! I've always wondered the differences.
Probably one of the greatest comparisons in a lifetime and one to appreciate if you love dunks
i enjoy this videos sooooooo much!
i've changed my mind about every shoe you've opened up
When i go shopping i really test every material and try to think weather is worth the price or not
It's just such a shame it's near impossible to get SB dunks now. They might be worth the extra $10 but you also have to go through so much more effort or pay resale, not to mention new releases aren't as frequent. In New Zealand SB dunks practically don't exist
the hype is dying
@@hanspeter5781 I second this. Boardertown also have one model in stock of high tops from memory. Unsure of sizing though
nike sb black and whit gums are sitting at around 150-160 on stock x
Just buy a colorway that isn't hyped lol
@@zachsmcl can’t literally with sbs smh 😂 go on goat and look because StockX sends fakes for sure it sucks but people are making life hard with even regular releases because of the resell store prices they are killing the shoe game and Nike is only feeding into it🤦🏾♂️
Love the vids keep up the great work! I think it would be really interesting to see if they're actually is a difference between the older SB dunks and the modern day ones. Just to confirm if all of those features that were originally designed are still kept consistent
Def the video we were waiting for, while we knew the midsoles on both were diff in sizing, I didn’t expect them to be different construction.. While most of the Dunks I own are SB’s, there have been some beautiful suede GR Dunks…. Great Video🤘🏽
The fact that you own mostly SB's and have "DunkSB" in your name without knowing how drastically different they are is sad. They're literally a skateboarding shoe. Obviously theyre gonna be made better.
This was an awesome video. Love the b roll skate footage!!!
you make all the videos i didn’t know i needed to watch, thank you :) !
If you look closely at the toe stitching, the SBs are double folded and double stitched, so that if you wear through the outer stitching, it’ll still hold together.
The dunk history is super spot on. Especially that very last bit about people not skating them and it being a bummer.
Also thank you for making this video fr
I’ve been waiting for this video. Thank you very much.
So much love for this channel
Dude I love your show do you think you can possibly do more skate shoes DC shoes? They aren't too expensive around $65- $120 on some releases 🙏🏼🙏🏼
Or better yet skateboard series vids
Kalis vulc for live, just bought 3 pairs form local outlet around 100usd total. I've worn through 4 pairs, still got 4 left to go.
Back in the day nobody would even consider Nike for skating- they’d get trashed! DC shoes were my go to.
Definitely make for a great video and new viewers
All I want to do is skate some dunks😂😭
Also: I absolutely love how much detail you go into and how you talked more about what it does for skateboarding, as a skater I appreciated this immensely.
Don’t we all
Cop some reps bro
Sneakerheads needed you bro, keep up the great job! You def help me make the right decision when purchasing a new shoe.
Your vids keep getting better. Top notch quality every time. This one tho? Really well done. I would nvr have thought the SBs were that legit. Or that THIN (for board feel). Good shit, my Man. Look up “skate shops making you kick flip before they sell you SBs” or “shops making you smash the box so you can’t resale (for as much)”
Watching you cut then un half hurts badly
I have many (too many) pairs of SB dunks and a handful of basketball dunks. I find the SB dunks to be infinitely more comfortable than the basketball dunks. I find that the basketball dunks feel stiffer all around. The leather is stiffer and the sole is stiffer and they take much longer to "break in" than a pair of SBs.
love the effort put into these
Oh thank you so much for making this video, i was contemplating earlier to see if i should go for a SB Dunk or a normal Dunk but the only videos i've seen on the SB quality was the Ben and Jerry's SB Dunk from you so i didn't know. This clears it out so much more i can't thank you enough, i was leaning towards a cheaper normal Dunk
Not all dunks have the same quality of leather some color ways are made with better material then others
Certain types of foam tend to break down over time, that is, it reduces in thickness as I guess the air cells lose the air. Another common thing with foam is it reacts with material it is in contact with and appears to "melt". There is also the issue (not sure if it is the same as "melt”) where the plasticizers break down. Given the amount of foam in this style of shoe is there any way to measure the life of the foam or information available on the durability of foam? Alternatively, compare the new shoe insides with a worn shoe. My interest is your tests reveal the build quality and materials in new condition. Testing the impact bounce on a new shoe doesn't translate to the bounce quality after say a year of wearing. May be some test equipment that can impart a year’s wear in a shorter period. You have a most interesting channel.
Please look at the Adidas Forum 84 next. My favourite sneaker.
YESSSSSSSSSSSS i have wanted regular vs SB comparisons to shoes you cut in half like these or Vans I'm p sure I even left a comment in my sleep deprived state like 11 hours ago about it and I am super excited that it's something that you seem to be doing I am HYPED UP RN
Modest video of yours I’ve seen. There is a ton of value in this review and I’m def a sub .
i love how the cat just smoothly became part of the footage. very well played!
Would definitely love to see a video on rep dunks vs real dunks.
Was waiting for this video for a min. Good idea on including SB dunks with the different soles.
Such a great breakdown! Thanks!!!
been known SBS always been better than regular dunks. Fake dunk heads out here didnt even think they were cool till the travis scott dunks came out
Thanks for this one, and shout out to you for acknowledging our pain as skateboarders that these are so hard to get, and mostly are worn by people who don't skate (no hate, just not being used for their intended purpose is a bummer)
A lot of people buy vans simply because there a cheap everyday shoe despite it being made for skating. I understand your frustration but cant the same argument be applied to them as well?(obviously vans arent hard to come by or being resold to all hell but you see where im coming from)
@@spacekook3315 I definitely see where your coming from! I'm just salty cause shoes that are made to be destroyed are being sold for 300+ (basic colorways I'm sayin) To me it's like buying a sports car and just keeping it in a garage all the time. I really like that people appreciate skate style, I just wish Nike didn't feed into the hype with GR colorways and actually restock for people that want to skate them
@@spacekook3315 Like I'm a size 11, I bought the Chlorophyl dunks intending to skate them but they're going for 300 on GOAT now so they're on the rack now lol
Try some good reps not dh gate ones they come in size 11 as well
I got a pair of sb on sale one time and loved them lasted 3 years. Awesome video.
I've been waiting years for a video like this! Skater for 20+ years , thanks for this
a useful tip if youre wearing Nike SB dunks recreationally, not using them to skate, definitely switch out the insoles because although its more padded, the air unit feels like wood. I swapped to a vans popcush insole and my feet feel better.
There is also alot of differences within all the dunk SB's. You have pro, PRM, QS, and even ISO releases. From my experience the QS and ISO releases have mostly better quality materials, atleast it looks and feels better idk for sure tho haha.
I have had multiple Dunks in hand and I am 100% on your side. ISO Dunks are the best. I own two ISO pairs and the leather is excellent. I wouldn't want to spend the money on regular Dunks any day of the week.
Having everything you've named I have an ultra premium non sb dunk as well. It just depends on what you get. It's varied because there's definitely gr quality sbs that get labeled as trd, qs, and even iso
Well, PRM stands for Premium.
So...
@@dylives7667 ISO still has far and away better quality than PRM tagged SBs, Dark Russet ISOs are said to have the best materials out of any SB from 2021
Are SB Dunks Orange Label the same as ISO ?
I’m so glad you did this comparison!
Realy good revieiw, are there any chance you could do an on the new Adidas Lyon? Looks like the old Trimmtrab, best regards from me in Sweden and keep upp the good work
would love to see a compilation video of 9.0+ center cut score
One shoe I'd be really interested in seeing cut open would be the Endorphin Pro by Saucony with the carbon plate it has in the sole.
Cool!
I'd just like to know how to pronounce "Saucony" properly.
Oooohh ma gawwd y’all don’t know how long I’ve been waiting for this Ty so much dude
Been patiently waiting for this video to drop! Mind making a similar video comparing these shoes to the Nike By You dunks?
Please do balenciaga defenders, would be really interesting to see whats inside that big tire sole
It REALLY hurts me to see these shoes that costed a lot of money get cut open, but at least it was for a good cause
Your knowledge of shoe craftsmanship and I guess shoe science? has grown exponentially since I first started watching your channel. Really cool to see.
That Classic Green pair of SB Dunks is my most worn pair. Love full leather SB Dunks the most.
Suede catches griptape and gives more lift for ollies and flick for flip tricks as well as being more durable. Zoom Air is more responsive than Air or Air Max, but less cushioned, and thinner for better board feel. Nice video!
I was wondering if you've ever come across a shoe that varies depending on what size it is. I wear a US men's 13 and I find it strange they are the same price as an 8, even though the larger sizes use like 10%-30% more material.
I think comparing kids versions of adult shoes to the real one would be interesting. Because they are like half the price and the largest kids and smallest adults are basically the same thing.
Just wondering if corners are ever cut regarding across sizes.
Yeah like Jordan 1 highs they have men’s pairs that are size 5+ and they have gs pairs that are size 3.5-7. Should compare a men’s size 5 to a gs 5 and see the difference. Cus for whatever reason ppl will buy the men’s pair for a lot more $ compared to GS resale wise. Only noticeable difference that I know of is the height and the Jordan wings logo is bigger on men’s I believe.
Good thing about the SB dunks aswell is that is has the extra panel at the front 2 eyelets, that way you can lace it underneath the extra panel for added lace protection!
I've been waiting for this... good job...
Im on my feet for 11 hours a day while at work, and I love wearing sb dunks, especially sb dunk highs, they are SUPER comfortable to wear !
dang really? I have a pair of the ACG SB Dunks and wore them to work for the first time last week. I was on my feet for 8hrs that day and walked about 9 miles and my feet were absolutely killing me at the end of the day. The first thing I thought was that I need to put another insole under the included insole. I mean i get that these aren't meant for walking 10 miles since they do have a thinner midsole and the only real cushion you get is the insole though. Are you mostly standing at your job or walking around?
I had the exact opposite happen to me my palms of my feet would start hurting when I wore them for more than 2 hours. I’m 6ft and 135lbs I’m lanky and I thought I’d feel more comfort instead. I bought my sbs on stockx so who knows maybe mine were fakes
@@NonLegitNation2 ACG Dunk SB low? Dunk SB hi's are miles more comfortable than the lo
@@blaowskiton yeah, dunk lows. I had a pair of dunk highs but got rid of them, they just felt to bulky on my feet.
@@NonLegitNation2 ah you had to break em in. Once u do that they are toooo cozy. My De La Soul hi's are my go too cozy shoe.
You know, good on Nike for actually designing SB shoes instead of just slapping SB on the branding. Honestly surprised.
This is the one I’ve been waiting for!!!!!!!!!
I’ve been waiting for this video 🤩
I don’t skate at all but love SBs. Better materials, cushioning and overall better vs the regular Dunks. Thanks for confirming!
After skating for a while I got upset at others wearing the SB dunks instead of skating them, but this video helps me realize how much better and how much more comfy they are for only $10 more
I understand why shoe collectors would buy them to wear, they are just built better
Bro!!! The bag is soo fire 🤯👏🏽🤘🏽, i need to get me one of those 🤘🏽
SBs last forever too, I have some SB 6.0s that are like 12 years old and have been skated in and I still wear them today.
I would love to see you cut in half Nike Sb dunk from Orange Lable - (maybe Dark russet) and see waht's your opinion on them. Nike claims its the best quality SB Dunks. Better materials and overall premium quality. After watching your videos I feel like it might be far from reality.
I have orange label Dunks and can confirm, leather quality is excellent.
Rose Anvil beckuf up, because he just got any SB Dunk he could get his hands on, and went with those representing Nike's Skateboarding line when it's much more complicated than that.
It's a no brainer SB Dunks are miles better than Sportswears. But QS and Orange Label/ISO SB Dunks are perfection materialized.
Cutting in half my dream shoe 😢
I love these videos🔥
Now it’s gonna be even harder for us skateboarders to get SB Dunks.
Please do more skate shoes. Love to see which companies are good for skating or are just there for the money.
How about no, and no?
You're complaining that this video just made getting SB Dunks harder.
What do you think will happen if the same was done to shoes from actual skate companies?
And besides, that isn't Rose Anvil's job.
The content you're looking for, lies elsewhere.
I think the difference when you rubbed on the board is due to the fact that in the first test you filled the grip's asperity with the rubber, reducing considerably the sanding effect for the 2 others.
I was considering this too, flipping the board might be an option next time if the grain is the same both ways, or maybe alternate them very often
@@Gnurklesquimp Or make the test with 3 boards =D
I LOVE toast so much 😂❤
Also fantastic video thank you
Been waiting for a video like this
My opinion on the “drop test” is that it should rank higher if the bar bounces back less- the opposite of how you rank it. If the bar is bouncing higher more energy is transferred through the shoe or the insole, meaning more is transferred to your foot. An insole that absorbs the energy from the impact would deaden the bounce back. Physicist over here.
They're hugely different. SB Dunks are made with tougher materials, and they have EVA foam as well as a Zoom Air unit built into the insole. I'm sure you cover this in the video, but I'm typing this prior to watching.
The SB Dunk deserves to be a highly collectible Nike, because it's a really nice shoe in spite of the drawbacks of being a mass produced Nike.
The "normal" Nike Dunk should be a $60 shoe that you can buy at any place w/ a Nike account. Seriously. You should be able to buy a "panda Dunk" for $60 at any "Shoe Show" or whatever....ANYWHERE.
EDIT: That black/grey/gum bottom SB Dunk low is the shoe that I wear "daily" currently. I've been splitting mudholes in that shoe for a couple of months now. Holdin' up just fine.
main difference is simply how flexible the sole is, for regular dunks you need a lot of structure and biility for the shoe to absorb impact in your toes, for sb dunks you get a flexible sole that follows the behavior of your toes while skateboarding, same thing with blazers, i have regular dunks for wear and dunk sb, because i phisically cant skate in them since they are too stiff.
Am just happy we have someone who’s telling us what we been wearing and him cutting them in half is for research and I respect it
The sbs are probably my favorite skate shoe, it’s unfortunate that they became collectible
I love how this man shows us how stupid it is to pay $500 just for the looks while the quality is awful and they cost Nike around 20 bucks to make them
Hi, your videos are really informative and great. I would love your opinion on fila sneakers!
Thanks, Weston. Ordered my ND2s, they'll look nice next to my ND1s.😊
SB's FOR LIFE MY FAVORITE SHOE OF ALL TIME !!! amazing video !!!
Great review!
this is the exact video that i was looking for!
Nice video I waited for this comparison
Please make air Jordan 1 high vs air Jordan 1 zoom cmft
Video is a great breakdown. Needs more likes/support. Newer dunk sb have the protective eyelets on the first two shoe lace loops too
Yess! More skate shoe videos. I wanna see lakai shoes. And maybe the cariuma ones that blew up recently
I skate and always wondered if there was a difference between the two. Thank you for doin this and showin not just me but everyone else the truth about the SB line.
Awesome cat too!
I would love for you to do Nike by you dunks vs normal dunks. PS, keep up the good work, love ur content 👍🏻
really nice breakdown!
I would love to hear your opinion of the Dunks versus the Court Royales, basketball/skateboarding versus tennis. I got a chance to pick up a pair in suede on discount a few years back and I love and use them for everything. But I also know that I know so little about shoes (though watching you has taught me so much!!!!!) so I would love to hear an actual opinion about their quality
Awesome literal breakdown of the differences between the dunks. With everybody and their grandma jumping onto the shoe hype, it's good to really know what you're paying for.
If you can get your hands on a pair, I am hoping you would do one for Tom Sachs Nikecraft General Purpose Shoe (GPS). Tom Sachs designed previous Nikecraft shoes featuring actual Nasa fabrics into the shoe, and lots of thought goes into his design. His GPS shoe is meant to be that shoe you can wear for anything. Trying them on, I'd have to say they were very comfortable and stable feeling. It's waterproof yet breathable but you wouldn't think to look at it. I hope this piques your interest and you do a review on them!
Love your videos, I’ve been a skater, factory worker, bartender, cook, woodworker and business executive. One of my new favorite dress boots are Taft. They are absolutely unique and seem to have a higher quality than many other luxury brands, would you do a video for Taft boots?
Alternate take, for the bag. All of those pockets and stuff, take up space better used to allow you to carry more stuff.
Hey Weston, can you also compare the Vans Pro Skate line with the regular vans and the Converse Cons with the regular converse?
you need to do AJ1 rookie of the year it has a very good suede qulity and it would be interesting to find out how good it is. great video big up!
Excellent content bro.....
Crafty AF
Great vid!