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Are Glass Mouse Feet Right For You? | Lethal Skates Review
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- Опубліковано 18 сер 2024
- Lethal Gaming Gear's new glass skates are a great option for those who want a change of pace from PTFE, but I am dubious of calling them the future of mouse skates. They feel far too unstable to be a universal recommendation and instead fill their own unique niche, much like a speed pad would.
Nevertheless, they are still super fun to use and it's cool to see innovation. I can't wait to see what LGG has in store next.
I might tweet sometimes, give me a follow :) KraftyCraftKraf
0:00 - Intro
0:48 - What do they feel like in-game?
6:07 - What are the best mouse pads for glass skates?
12:43 - Outro
Your channel is underrated. Such details in your reviews are appreciated.
Now, we just need to convince LGG to produce fabric mouse feet for Skypads.
That would be kinda sick. I saw someone make some custom felt feet on reddit and it actually looked cool. If they could have the same consistency as a glass pad but remove the scratchiness it would be incredible.
@@KraftyCraftKraf Hey what do you think about these skates on the firefly v2 mouse pad? Or something of the similar texture?
Awesome video man, I’m really glad that u incorporated some actual gameplay with the mouse into the video. Looking forward to more from this channel in the future!
those nails would go well with the upcoming yellow Vaxee mice! thank you for the detailed review. my experience with superglides (on otsu and eclipse) are inline with yours... where would you consider Cordura pads to be?
Codura pads feel pretty close to the hybrid surfaces I talked about in the video because glass takes away some of the typical codura feel and makes them feel like a more consistent hybrid pad. I'm still not a fan of how codura surfaces feel on my arm but I would like to try a couple more with glass feet to see how they feel.
Do we know if these slow down like the Pulsar glass feet?
I got glass skates and it was awesome for a week, smooth like a butter... but after a week I had some specific slow-down points in my Cordura mousepad, maybe related to humidity... which made me change back to PTFE.
Hey man great review! Question does this review still stand for you after any break in period and was there any slow down patches and muddy vibes on say the Venus or hein type pads..? Thanks again bro
Thanks for the in depth thoughts on the various mousepad combinations
Thanks for this review! I really like your thoughts!
Could you maybe do an updated review on the M2K?
Already on it. I've been using it a lot more recently and am getting ready to make an updated review in the next couple of weeks.
Hey Krafty! Could you get your hands on (pun intended) a Finalmouse UL2 or a Starlight-12? I would like to see what you think of the shape as it is so highly praised in the community. Loving the videos! Keep it up man!
The shape and feature set looks great so I’ve been trying to pick one up but both drops haven’t gone my way and I’m not about to give a scalper some money. I’ll keep trying on future drops or pick one up second hand if I see something at msrp.
could we see a mousepad roundup / review! thanks for the review as well
Yeah I'm planning to make a roundup of some of my favorite pads. I was going to clump them all together but its pretty hard to rank them and make a concise vid that way so I'll probably break it up by parts, like one for control pads one for hybrids etc.
@@KraftyCraftKraf Please do this!
I got these skates and they definitely aren't for everyone. I use a fingertip grip and the lack of static friction on these skates makes it so I can't control precise movements.
sounds like you're just beta. drink less soy and watch less anime buddy
Practise
Pair them with some grip tapes, I had the same problem and the grip tapes really helped give me control while feeling the effortlessness of glass skates. After that it just took a little bit of practice and the difference in my gameplay was huge to say the least.
I was used to older mouse and I got myself a viper ultimate, I decided to go all out on the mouse and the difference is there even compared to the viper alone by itself.
thats a nice pfp you got there.
Would you buy the Skypad after trying these mouse feet out?
I think I still would. These skates do bring some of the great things about the skypad like those effortless small motions and a smooth glide while also removing the annoying stuff like scratching or a sticky surface, but they lack the consistency that makes glass pads so great. However, there is still something to be said about how glass skates can mimic the performance of glass pads while being more versatile. You can use them on slower and smoother pads to fit your own preferences which isn't an option with the skypad.
@@KraftyCraftKraf Thank you for such edifying reviews and comment's! Also some sweet colored nails.
i love your nails! and great reviews
How will it work with steelseries qck+?
my friend has superglides and his mouse literally squeaks on his mousepad, not sure why, the pad and feet are brand new
I use an aluminum core with PVC mouse pad which is already super fast .. add to that I use 4400-6000 dpi. Currently I'm using 5400 dpi with my Logitech GPX Ultralight. I've been debating about glass for some time.
What I don't understand is people want fast mouse skates but they use what I consider insanely slow mouse pads. It makes no sense?!
When it comes to fast skates on slow pads, it's more of a customization preference. You're balancing two extremes of a spectrum, and then you end up with a unique feeling. I used to believe that a fast skate on a slow pad is the exact inverse of a slow skate on a fast pad. I've found this to be false because it's multivariable. Every mouse pad can have varying static/dynamic friction, thickness, stacked foam/rubber layers, fabric material, and fabric weave pattern.
Furthermore, skates have varying thicknesses (ranging from 0.5mm to 1.2mm). The thickness of the skate interacts with the "cushy-ness" of your mouse pad. By using a hard pad, you could remove this variable, because you can't slow the mouse by digging into the cushion. Let's not even dive into how each brand's "100% PTFE" skates are not actually 100% PTFE by composition. They have proprietary amounts of additives that change their characteristics. That's why Corepads, Tiger, Hyperglides, Superglides, etc. feel different from each other.
The total surface area of the skates plays a huge role. For example, all Zowie mice have massive surface area of skates--1 massive skate at the front and 1 massive skate at the back. They tend to have higher static/dynamic friction because of the increased surface contact. As a contrast, Finalmouse have small surface area of skates--1 small skate in 4 corners. They tend to feel faster on average because of decreased surface contact. This means that a Zowie and Finalmouse can feel differently on the same exact mouse pad. There are so many confounding variables...
I guess this is all very pretentious, like in the mechanical keyboard world, where people talk about "sound profiles" and "thockiness" in the same way that wine connoisseurs talk about flavor notes 🤔. "Wow, my 1.5mm thick keycaps are so different than my 1.2mm thick keycaps!" "Wow, this red wine begins with cherry, then develops into earthiness, and then ends with a nice finish of coffee." At the end of the day, it's just curiosity and experimentation in the pursuit of a hobby.
Cool nails my dude
Hi, do you think the glass skates will wear out on hard plastic pads
like g440 or razer artic if so will it make the mouse slow down over time?
It would wear them down quicker than cloth for sure, but I don't see why it wouldn't last a long time still. The plastic should be the part that goes first.
Would love to see you review the ninjustu origin one x and Ninjustu Katana Superlight, I am curious about them and like your reviews alot
Thanks. I might check those mice out. I'm not super interested in either of them but the Katana Ultralight's feature set sounds cool, especially for the price, so I might give it a try, not now, but maybe soon.
Hey bro! I was wondering… I feel like these skates just feel better on speedier pads.. something like the strider that has a ton of texture, or the venus .. might just get me a venus to try this out. I still think ptfe is better for those slower pads.
Yeah probably. Glass skates are a more natural fit for what faster pads are trying to be so they tend to feel better. Then ptfe retain the stability that slower pads do so well.
Can you update how you feel the glass skates perform with the slow smooth Pads like the radar, Jupiter, gsr, etc?
I actually bought LGG glass skates + Jupiter mouse pad. If I remember, I'll be sure to let you know.
@@StatusQuo209 w thanks
Okay hear me out. The only people who would spend this much money for mouse skates are gaming mouse enthusiast, **who loves changing their switch, scroll wheel encoder and etc? right?
So what happens when you try and peel it out? Will it crack? and can't re-use them?
Yeah for sure. This is a product by enthusiasts for enthusiasts.
I'm not sure if you could remove them without any shattering. They seem pretty flimsy because the glass had to be very light to not add weight so it feels like they would snap if you flex them up. I can't quite be sure though, so if that's a big concern for you I'd recommend reaching out to their support.
I know this is random but can you share the settings for your white + crosshair in the valorant clip around 6 minutes?
outlines: off
inner lines: 1, 4, 2, 0, off, off
outer lines: 1, 1, 2, 3, off, on, 1
code: 0;c;1;s;1;P;h;0;f;0;m;1;0l;4;0o;0;0a;1;0f;0;1l;1;1o;3;1a;1;1m;0;S;c;0;o;1
Dope nails (and video, of course!)
ynnart pog , thx for review!!
for sure glass skates will be popular in 2022
why u removed the puck door feet ,for better performance?
Not necessarily. The difference is very minor and there isn’t much of a difference between on or off so I leave it off to remove a potential failure point.
Would you say Venus is actually close to hayate otsu? And would you recommend it for tac shooters or is it too fast?
Edit: and on the other hand is Jupiter too slow? I'm maining the xten and vaxee PA and want to buy an LGG pad to support them but Saturn would be a waste I think cuz I have xten so not sure if I should get Jupiter or Venus.
Jupiter is way slower than the Xten and PA if you want some variance to just try it out then go for it but I’d say the Venus would get more use
Venus feels to me like a Hien with a more balanced X and Y, with higher static and dynamic friction. Venus is about as if not more textured than the Hien, definitely not smooth feeling on the skin or mousefeet like the OTSU.
My personal favorite pads right now are the Saturn, Eclipse, Zero, PA, Venus. For a hybrid speed pad to make it in my top 5 performing pads was a real surprise to me as I normally don't perform consistency well on these pads.
The Venus can definitely be used for tac shooters if you take the time to get used to it, I ended up going back to the Saturn just because I felt a little more consistent with it.
@@nex3877 Thanks for the great inputs guys. I think ill just leave it for now. I feel like the venus/otsu will just end up being like the hien for me. Great performance just not consistent. Especially since im mainly playing tac shooters.
Do you enjoy ur zero/saturn more than PA? I love both my PA and xten just cant decide whether I like the more textured or smooth pad lol
@@I3asyl I have not tried the Xten, but the PA had a bit to much static friction for me. If I played more tac shooter games it would prob get more use, but I mostly play Overwatch and Apex.
@@nex3877 Cool ty. I actually mostly play tac shooters and honestly is it weird that i like PA in game more than xten, but xten is FAR better in kovaaks. That's probably what keeps me on xten over PA because i feel my potential is greater on it but for whatever reason PA is just more consistent in game. Wonder if i just need to stick to xten for a long time to make most out of it.
Hey I have the g pro x superlight and like it but want to try a different mouse. I play valorant on low sens and my grip is a lot like ethos with the fingers I’m claw but have my pinky sticking out. I tried the grip with my xlite wireless and since I have a different grip it does not feel good. Was wondering if I should get a NP01-S or a S2-C or any recommendations?
The s2-c should work out well for your grip style. I would describe its shape as a gpx with more of hump in the back so if the gpx works well for you but you want more support the s2 could be a great option.
@@KraftyCraftKraf thank u so much I also heard the deathadder would be good but that seems more of a ergo and wouldn’t work with my grip
Yeah the deathadder will feel more similar to the xlite so it probably wont work. These types of mice can feel a little awkward when you curl your fingers aggressively.
@@KraftyCraftKraf yea I swiched to the grip and enjoy it a lot. I have more control and been hitting more shots and flicks. Glad I done it but want to get the s2 . It sounds like the best option for my grip
Thoughts on the xm1r vs the Zowie s2-c?
I talked about them both in my top mice vid and explained the differences between what I like about each mouse. In brief, the xm1 has an aggressive design that allows for a high degree of control and stability but the hump can feel a little bit too restrictive while the s2’s more neutral design is very comfortable and less restrictive which helps to make it a very consistent performer despite the bulkier front.
What keyboard are you using?
Ducky one 2 sf
Can’t wait for you to try the superglides
Me too. Its going to be interesting to compare the two options. I'm just waiting for them to release for the np-01s which should be soon.
@@KraftyCraftKraf unfortunately they NP01 skates aren’t coming for a bit, but a mouse you vouch for a lot is. On twitter they released their release dates of their skates for march and the 5th of march the G303 skates are coming out
i will actually disagree with the gamesens having high static movement especially with smaller skates like the ones on g203/g305. on my pad is has high dynamic friction and low static friction
and btw good video and keep it up
I do agree that the radar has low static friction and high dynamic. It's a sorta slow pad with a good amount of dynamic friction but it doesn't have the stickiness common on a lot of cloth pads. I still categorized it with the other cloth pads on this list because it feels like it still has a high resistance on small motions and it starts to feel pretty similar to the other pads when you use glass skates.
do u do aim trainers?
Yeah I have a clip in this video
have u heard of the sapphire skates?
that shit got me in tears bruh
Yeah I saw those lol. Shit looks so stupid.
Might have to waste some money to try them out for the memes though.
@@KraftyCraftKraf might get u some views so go for it
Femboymaxxing how long until the hrt is the real question lol
Do black nails next
I mostly play cs so this is not a buy for me i think, since i need some stopping power
He said MANY times these don't lower stopping power, in fact they add more. What lowers is the static friction, which is entirely different.
😏 hummmmmm cute nails
The way you talk is kind of insane
paint your nails to the color of whatever mice youre reviewing
the nail polish was enough to not watch this video
Better than unkept nails🤷♂️
gay
Are u a femboy
lol u really colored ur nails?
yeah he did and it looks sick, why u asking?
@@RyanJones485 is he qay?
@@kingofyoursoul yes because painting nails means gay? also what the fuck is wrong with that?
@@kingofyoursoul why tf does painting nails=gay??
ur genuinely braindead arent u
Fuck No i'm out...
painted nails...of course. you know i hate that i became like the boomers. before i would be the kid wanting to customize my self..now i cringe to death.
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