Everything Wrong With "Everything Wrong With The Last of Us"

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  • @hyperionman420
    @hyperionman420 5 років тому +1002

    "Guitar cliché"
    "Skateboard cliché"
    "Sports cliché"
    Jesus, apparently people aren't allowed to do anything in video games now.

    • @MsOdale7
      @MsOdale7 4 роки тому +122

      "Video game being created. Ding!" "Videogame makes you use a controller or keyboard. Ding!"

    • @locococo8961
      @locococo8961 4 роки тому +7

      @@MsOdale7 truth

    • @scottyj8655
      @scottyj8655 4 роки тому +2

      Pretty sure the dude is just fucking around

    • @gunmandoo
      @gunmandoo 4 роки тому +53

      @@scottyj8655 Dude just fucking around cliche. *ding*

    • @aihereplia
      @aihereplia 2 роки тому +4

      You're funny lovable badguy cliché, Jack.

  • @maiwisdom9839
    @maiwisdom9839 7 років тому +1424

    "Is this plot stuff important?"
    Now THAT's a Sin.

    • @justinz9225
      @justinz9225 5 років тому +58

      Yea I was insulted right off the bat. This is maybe the one game I've played where I legitimately cared about the plot more than the actual gameplay.

    • @RichieNicksMusic
      @RichieNicksMusic 5 років тому +31

      And the fact that he's distracted himself, notices it, and intentionally stays distracted is a sin for the game and not himself?

    • @johnjamele
      @johnjamele 5 років тому +38

      He also pulls the "I hate logos" bit that CinemaSins bleats with painful predictability. "Creators taking credit for their creation? That's a sin!" says the guy making money by tossing witless snark at another person's hard work.

    • @scottyj8655
      @scottyj8655 4 роки тому

      I'll be honest I didn't care about the plot that much.

    • @bobbynelson5849
      @bobbynelson5849 4 роки тому +10

      Scotty J and no one is going to fight you on that we just like the plot but the person is doing a sins counter and sins it for the plot

  • @asimplemoth5342
    @asimplemoth5342 6 років тому +790

    People tend to forget that Ellie was raised in a military academy, so she probably learned a lot of skills that would be useful and that's how she can do certain things in the game that you wouldn't initially expect her to be able to do.

    • @J1ntu
      @J1ntu 5 років тому +63

      Thalia Mirror EXACTLY! Plus why wouldn’t they teach the students how to drive different vehicles in case they’re out in the field and get stranded? No way someone would assume they’d let a team be screwed just because no one learned how to drive a stick shift

    • @theoneandonlymichaelmccormick
      @theoneandonlymichaelmccormick 5 років тому +21

      Thalia Mirror Also, she’s voiced by Ashley Johnson, which means that you KNOW she can do some badass stuff.

    • @tonypeppermint5329
      @tonypeppermint5329 3 роки тому

      Some people just didn't look.

    • @StitchesAndBitches
      @StitchesAndBitches 2 роки тому

      THIS IS WHAT IVE BEEN SAYING. FOR FUCKING YEARS. NOBODY BELIEVES ME. I CAN FINALLY FUCKING BE PROVEN.

    • @metalbrainmextrememetalent6810
      @metalbrainmextrememetalent6810 Рік тому +2

      There’s also the prequel dlc, where Ellie was learning to survive.

  • @pux0rb
    @pux0rb 6 років тому +197

    I love that most of his "sins" are just literary plot devices that are used to create tension, instill emotion, explain a character's motive or intentions, etc. He's just trying to appear smart by exposing how stories are created. If he hates the idea that writers write things, maybe he should just stop consuming art.

  • @ASerpentPerplexed
    @ASerpentPerplexed 7 років тому +636

    I like how Dartigan is criticizing every single cliché for being unoriginal and repeated (even if they're used well), WHILE USING MEMES AS JOKES!!! WHAT ARE MEMES IF NOT CLICHES?

    • @theoneandonlymichaelmccormick
      @theoneandonlymichaelmccormick 5 років тому +33

      Darzeedatailorbird And also for having a channel that is, in and of itself, a lazy and obvious derivative of something much more successful.

    • @BlueBlazerX7
      @BlueBlazerX7 5 років тому +1

      WHAT ARE MEMES!! A MISERABLE PILE OF MEMES!!!!...there fixed your post

    • @jayvhoncalma3458
      @jayvhoncalma3458 3 роки тому +3

      Tsk Dartigan *YOU ARE A CINEMASINS CLONE!*

    • @MikeP828
      @MikeP828 3 роки тому +19

      “What are memes, if not cliches persevering?”

    • @batjackgames6838
      @batjackgames6838 2 роки тому

      Anytime these channels point something out as being a rip off or imitation, I like to scroll the comments to see if someone points out the Irony of them sayin that.

  • @deskish3930
    @deskish3930 8 років тому +445

    Wow, he does the cinemasins guys proud, he takes a random bullshit thing, and tacks the word "cliche" on it. CLEVER WRITING!

    • @JediNg135
      @JediNg135 7 років тому +25

      Clever writing? THATS *RIDICULOUS!*

    • @Wolfeur
      @Wolfeur 7 років тому +26

      A zombie apocalypse? THAT'S *RIDICULOUS!*

    • @laurene988
      @laurene988 6 років тому +11

      My favorite drinking game, take a shot everytime he says cliche!
      Careful through you may die

    • @kingofthemonsters8357
      @kingofthemonsters8357 6 років тому

      deskish
      Making fun of cinemasins cliche

    • @stonecat676
      @stonecat676 6 років тому +6

      I'M A REAL CRITIC GODDAMNIT. I H-HAVE TO P-P-POINT OUT *CLICHES*!!!
      *foams at mouth*
      Yeah it's dumb and phony and pretentious - a common problem with internet self-proclaimed "critics".
      One can find these kinds in their natural habitat of any fandom.

  • @Dartigan
    @Dartigan 7 років тому +3365

    Ahh, I can't stand to watch my old vids. Great job on tearing me a new one in this.

    • @Not_a_Lizard_
      @Not_a_Lizard_ 7 років тому +801

      Acceptance ex machina

    • @SirGeeSantos
      @SirGeeSantos 7 років тому +119

      Uncle Ex-machina, dude? Seriously? Do you know what ex-machina meanssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss *dead*

    • @noahorakwue2653
      @noahorakwue2653 7 років тому +315

      cinemasins could learn from you!

    • @dragonballradiant2744
      @dragonballradiant2744 7 років тому +91

      Some of your recent videos have flaws to, somebody need to make videos like this because a lot of people judge the quality based off a video like this and Cinemasins.

    • @dragonballradiant2744
      @dragonballradiant2744 7 років тому +10

      93-94

  • @CaptainHugoAhoy
    @CaptainHugoAhoy 8 років тому +1797

    Pretty soon, someone is gonna do an 'everything wrong with everything wrong with everything wrong' and this is gonna spiral into insanity.

    • @chiclesdeadospesos
      @chiclesdeadospesos 8 років тому +38

      Can't wait.

    • @Kobuddy
      @Kobuddy 8 років тому +73

      A very petty individual already has, actually.

    • @CaptainHugoAhoy
      @CaptainHugoAhoy 8 років тому +34

      Kobuddy Of course.

    • @brynstarre
      @brynstarre 8 років тому +3

      Jesus Christ, what a bell end!

    • @ArborDaze
      @ArborDaze 8 років тому +2

      It's wrong all the way down.

  • @drowzebra1308
    @drowzebra1308 8 років тому +852

    The guy didn't even know what a butane stove was?
    holy shit, did he think it was impossible to cook while out backpacking w/o a battery?
    i'm stunned.

    • @MrIsaac95
      @MrIsaac95 8 років тому +73

      and ppl use butane for block parties and barbeques too

    • @Freelancer837
      @Freelancer837 6 років тому

      +Isaac Of course, but that's why most people just use a normal grill.

    • @BenjerminGaye
      @BenjerminGaye 6 років тому +4

      My dad says butane's a bastard gas

    • @tiernanstevens117
      @tiernanstevens117 6 років тому +1

      It is ^ unreliable shit imo

    • @Jrez
      @Jrez 6 років тому +2

      BenjerminGaye Do you happen to be named Bobby?

  • @dasirrlicht5415
    @dasirrlicht5415 6 років тому +759

    "I gotta go water my Cat..."
    I love this line.

    • @Vercalos
      @Vercalos 6 років тому +11

      I haven't heard that line in so long
      Gotta water my cat cliche!

    • @januzi2
      @januzi2 6 років тому +4

      You have to watch Mr. Plinkett's Star Wars reviews then ;)

    • @TheBros2theend
      @TheBros2theend 5 років тому +1

      Jesus Christ loves you, God bless heal save and forgive you in Jesus Christ's glorious holy name amen.

    • @souler__
      @souler__ 5 років тому +1

      ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

    • @RenegadeShepTheSpacer
      @RenegadeShepTheSpacer 4 роки тому +2

      @@januzi2 "Mmm, I like to fuck my cat."

  • @Xackadee
    @Xackadee 6 років тому +126

    "Dartigan seems to be completely oblivious to the concept of an ambush."
    Best line. It actually started to become a shame when the ambush thing went as far as it did.

  • @TooFatTooFurious
    @TooFatTooFurious 8 років тому +178

    16:00 also! When enemies are aware of you, they sometimes hide behind objects and stay still. This way, on high difficulty at least, you can't actually detect them with your hearing vision! So it's still entirely possible to ambush someone in this world.

    • @bobvids
      @bobvids  8 років тому +43

      totally agreed!

    • @wallacesousuke1433
      @wallacesousuke1433 8 років тому +1

      yes

    • @cadethumann8605
      @cadethumann8605 7 років тому +17

      Арсений Брилёв In addition, in survival mode, the listen ability is disabled, so you could also argue in that difficulty universe, Joel can't tell where enemies are aside from actually hearing or seeing them.

    • @kaisburg2450
      @kaisburg2450 6 років тому

      That would've been a real criticism towards Dartigan.
      Instead bobvids uses that time for a useless throwaway line.

    • @Freelancer837
      @Freelancer837 6 років тому

      On hard difficulties*

  • @barrygormley3986
    @barrygormley3986 6 років тому +103

    Additional sin: the layout of Sarah's room is actually genius, and gives us a bunch of insights into her character. Without a word of dialogue being uttered, we can tell she's a tomboy who really enjoys things like soccer, skateboarding and cheesy action movies, but she also likes to read young adult fiction and probably has a strong romantic side, and there's probably other things we can infer about her but it's been a while since I played the game. Considering we don't spend a lot of time with this character, and yet she's an essential part of the plot, these little details go a long way toward helping the player feel some connection to her as a person.

  • @ThatPazuzu
    @ThatPazuzu 8 років тому +88

    the ambush thing is so weird. If they were overpowered by brute force he'd say "looks like the one competent enemy finally showed up." An ambush is a great, classic way for someone weaker (like all the enemies are) to take down someone stronger and change the power dynamic

    • @theoneandonlymichaelmccormick
      @theoneandonlymichaelmccormick 5 років тому +10

      ThatPazuzu Something that Joel himself employs quite successfully and effectively through the game’s stealth combat mechanics.

  • @imaruckanucka
    @imaruckanucka 8 років тому +69

    "I just learned what a trope is and I think that every time a story uses one it's a cliche" *ding*

  • @OrangeVision
    @OrangeVision 8 років тому +860

    Just saying, watching this was a cathartic experience and I appreciate the effort put into these. If you have the energy, definitely keep these up!

    • @arcpegasus2002
      @arcpegasus2002 8 років тому +16

      OrangeVision Agreed and seconded! I'd love to see more with both movies and games.

    • @stonecat676
      @stonecat676 6 років тому

      But watching these smug ass know-nothing donkeys for any more than 10 seconds is torturous.

    • @bryanwoods3373
      @bryanwoods3373 4 роки тому +5

      One of those cathartic moments for me is when he points out that no one would actually expect a zombie apocalypse and respond confidently. Anyone that claims it is on the same level as an edgelord. I have the same visceral reaction when people complain about how characters respond in a genre movie. You know the protagonist isn't crazy when they claim to see supernatural events in a horror movie because you saw it from their perspective. You know you're watching a horror movie. The police officer thinks they are a background character in a police procedural or mystery movie. You just know the person that says they'd go for a headshot if they saw someone looking like a zombie is going to be getting a psych evaluation in preparation for the trial for murdering the accident victim looking for help.

  • @Delta-lu5kf
    @Delta-lu5kf 7 років тому +689

    Story has a protagonist cliché

    • @Silent_Mochi
      @Silent_Mochi 6 років тому +50

      PixelGod97 Theres an enemy trying to kill u
      ENEMY CLICHE

    • @Spanishdog17
      @Spanishdog17 5 років тому +51

      Characters walking cliché

    • @Kartissa
      @Kartissa 5 років тому +26

      Zombie apocalypse cliché...

    • @ChrisDodges123
      @ChrisDodges123 5 років тому

      😂😂😂

    • @warpedwhimsical
      @warpedwhimsical 5 років тому +33

      Humans in story breathe oxygen cLiChÉ

  • @jesuschristgau8583
    @jesuschristgau8583 8 років тому +580

    these "sins" people must have insanely horrible reading comprehension

    • @demsterclippy4252
      @demsterclippy4252 6 років тому +103

      Along with pathetic memory, terrible attention span, and poor logic

    • @nickv1212
      @nickv1212 6 років тому +48

      jesus christgau
      The funny thing about the guy who made the original video is that he claims TLOU's cliches and uninspired aspects are sins, while being a guy who stole the original CinemaSins guy's entire shtick. The same presentation, same bell ting, and the same smug tone. The only difference is the CinemaSins guy isn't a complete moron.

    • @DragonSlayerCentral
      @DragonSlayerCentral 6 років тому +12

      Think of it like this. Someone hated this game enough to make a 15 minute video pointing out every single thing they didnt like about it. Thats days of work. That kind of hate can only come from ignorance.

    • @passingliaison
      @passingliaison 6 років тому +2

      Are you people serious, or are you just pretending to be stupid? It's hard to tell sometimes, especially when I know some people actually take these "criticism" videos seriously. Cinemasins intentionally nit pic their sins, they've stated this numerous times. I'm gonna guess the Gamingsins guy is too sins he copied their schtick. So why are people acting so butthurt in comment sections?
      Is it people just getting in on the joke, or are people actually this friggin' stupid? The reason I ask is there seem to be far more people acting as if they think these "criticism" videos are legit criticism, not the overly nitpicking "critiques" for comedic effect satires they actually are.

    • @nickv1212
      @nickv1212 6 років тому +5

      Because when the CinemaSins guy nitpicks, I can see his reasoning. This guy's nitpicks are terribly thought out. And being unoriginal isn't a sin so long as it succeeds at doing its own thing.

  • @BobJr8
    @BobJr8 8 років тому +684

    UA-cam comment cliche.

    • @AristoWan
      @AristoWan 8 років тому +62

      Trolling remark cliche

    • @bigfatcarp93
      @bigfatcarp93 7 років тому +51

      Black text on white cliché.

    • @OhShitSeriously
      @OhShitSeriously 7 років тому +37

      bigfatcarp93 Identification of a cliché cliché.

    • @bigfatcarp93
      @bigfatcarp93 7 років тому +32

      Running joke fostering stronger UA-cam community cliché.

    • @paperbackwriter1111
      @paperbackwriter1111 7 років тому +22

      BobJr8 Reply function ex machina.

  • @ThatPazuzu
    @ThatPazuzu 8 років тому +79

    estimated earnings 90k to 1.5m. THAT IS A HUGE MARGIN OF ERROR, GUYS

    • @dmas7749
      @dmas7749 6 років тому +11

      Guy's making 7k a month bare minimum though, which is still a lot.

  • @Beanie84
    @Beanie84 7 років тому +44

    God, so many of these "sins" are mind achingly insufferable. Bless you for rebutting them. "Oh no, this part of the game reminds me of a scene in an unrelated movie! *ding*" "I can't fill in minor gaps with my own imagination or by referencing similar situations and experiences from real life! *ding*". Good grief...

  • @Trulsrohkig
    @Trulsrohkig 8 років тому +197

    How can your channel, along with Shaun and Jen's, not have millions of subscribers? This was not only very humorous but seriously insightful. Thanks for pointing out the flaws in the whole "everything wrong with..." series!

    • @steelbear2063
      @steelbear2063 7 років тому +8

      Don't know why he doesn't, but Shaun and Jen have annoying as hell voices

    • @aguywhowatchescartoons368
      @aguywhowatchescartoons368 7 років тому +9

      Andreas Kjell There's also the fact that Shaun & Jen lack any form of personality to be long time big youtubers. That and their massive SJWs

    • @addison_v_ertisement1678
      @addison_v_ertisement1678 Рік тому

      I need links to both of those channels.

    • @anthonybencivengo6901
      @anthonybencivengo6901 26 днів тому

      ​@@aguywhowatchescartoons368 Thank you for giving me a laugh at how well this comment aged now that Shaun has become an even bigger UA-camr by *leaning in* to the SJW stuff

  • @Kelerak2
    @Kelerak2 8 років тому +305

    Oh man, I remember watching the video this guy made on DmC: Devil May Cry and when he assigned 9001 sins just for the game starting, due to "lol, it's not the classic games".
    Not even CinemaSins can get that petty, nor insert a meme that outdated.

    • @user1point0
      @user1point0 8 років тому +21

      Kelerak That video was made by GCN, and yeah, it was pretty shitty

    • @Kelerak2
      @Kelerak2 8 років тому +34

      There are two of these guys running around? I know I shouldn't be surprised, but jeez.

    • @user1point0
      @user1point0 8 років тому +31

      Kelerak GCN, Dartigan, Cinema Sins and possibly more...
      Nitpicking is profitable, I guess?
      ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    • @Kaidona
      @Kaidona 8 років тому +24

      Yep, there's probably like five or six of them just sinning games. There's at least three people sinning anime. I've seen that shit randomly in my related thanks to Bob's latest obsession. Thanks, Bob. : |

    • @pr3yanimal
      @pr3yanimal 8 років тому +23

      DmC: Devil May Cry is shit, but not because it's not the classic game. :^)

  • @avalynpoe4441
    @avalynpoe4441 6 років тому +160

    Take a shot every time Dartigan whines about Joel getting ambushed.
    Or don't. Alcohol poisoning is a serious problem.

    • @404usernotfound_
      @404usernotfound_ 6 років тому +6

      Beckett Take a shot of water 👌

    • @JeanMarceaux
      @JeanMarceaux 5 років тому

      At first I thought of Vinesauce Joel.

    • @Raddish-IS-Radd
      @Raddish-IS-Radd Рік тому

      ​@@404usernotfound_water poisoning! Yes that is an actual thing

  • @arcpegasus2002
    @arcpegasus2002 8 років тому +74

    I cracked up with, "Ex-machina-Ex-machina!"

  • @soulcstudios
    @soulcstudios 5 років тому +30

    This video, and the video game, mean so much to me.
    My father was emotionally distant to me and my siblings growing up, and I see a lot of Joel in him. Therapy has helped a lot and really helped us come together.
    And I'm a survivor of multiple childhood sexual assaults. The scene with David was so cathartic for me and just so well done and so real. I love your comment shutting down the critics cluelessness about what was happening in that scene. It was humorous but still maintained a respectful tone toward the issue of childhood sexual assault. Which many people including the original cinema sins don't maintain when talking about, for example, which movie it's okay for them to start thirsting after Herminoie in or in the original criticism for the game, thirsting after Ellie.

  • @SameNameDifferentGame
    @SameNameDifferentGame 8 років тому +226

    I don't know if dude made his video before Uncharted 4 or not, but I was surprised you didn't point out that Naughty Dog themselves did in fact put Troy Baker and Nolan North in two lead roles in their next game!

    • @takodabdrew4367
      @takodabdrew4367 6 років тому +9

      On the Stick Troy Baker and Nolan North were in a scene together in Last of Us as well though.

    • @PiterLauchy
      @PiterLauchy 4 роки тому +1

      @Chandler Burse Did you watch the video you're commenting on? North didn't just play David and he and Baker do have a scene together.

    • @PiterLauchy
      @PiterLauchy 4 роки тому

      @Chandler Burse He voiced one of the hunters Joel "interrogates", yes. Why comment on a video that you haven't watched?

    • @PiterLauchy
      @PiterLauchy 4 роки тому

      @Chandler Burse I am calm, but I apologise if I was too direct. No harsh feelings on my end.
      The video even shows them in their mocap suits filming that scene (is it called "filming" in this context?) so I just don't get how someone could miss that.
      You're right in that I should've paid more attention to this thread's age. I usually don't reply to year-old comments.

  • @ToastOnSmores
    @ToastOnSmores 2 роки тому +14

    Regarding David and Joel not appearing in any scenes together, that's also meant to amplify how much of a threat David is to Ellie since Joel isn't there. That's why his boss fight is so scary for both Ellie & The Player

  • @runicsniper4043
    @runicsniper4043 6 років тому +16

    I loved the deer story! I was doing the same thing while walking one day and saw a huge buck about 4 feet away, staring right at me. I stomped to try and scare it off and it stomped right back! Deer don’t always scare easily.

  • @Dartigan
    @Dartigan 7 років тому +294

    Ahh, I can't stand to watch my old vids. Great job on tearing me a new one in this.

    • @mrguy22494
      @mrguy22494 6 років тому +94

      Well at least you're acknowledging the flaws in your old vids... Unlike Jeremy with his current setup.

    • @marcelljambor2529
      @marcelljambor2529 6 років тому +22

      Still better than gamingsins,their god of war 3 video was the worst shit i ever watched. It was so bad i felt insulted. I literally have ptsd because of that.

    • @ItsRoyZinky
      @ItsRoyZinky 6 років тому +47

      There is one thing acknowledging and correcting flaws. However, going back and looking at his video's currently... He is literally doing the same thing. I don't understand.

    • @calaifur
      @calaifur 6 років тому

      rude.

    • @L16htW4rr10r
      @L16htW4rr10r 6 років тому +6

      jambi Jambii Well, for me, at least he didn't put in a forced joke into it. There is (almost) never a moment where I didn't laugh at his jokes. The most important part is, I mostly knew when he was joking, which that is something CinemaSins can barely do!

  • @OmegaBlackHeart
    @OmegaBlackHeart 4 роки тому +32

    Hey Bob, wanted to stop by and just say thanks. Your videos pretty much kind of snapped me out of the blind following mindset I had and proved facts are not overrated. I've made a couple of Everything Wrong With Everything Wrong With videos myself and I tried following examples you set here and from my other inspiration, Th3Birdman. Wish you could keep making videos like this.
    Stay safe, dude!

  • @therealcamdon
    @therealcamdon 8 років тому +11

    I really love these takedown videos you do, not just because they rip apart unfunny commentary but also because you give a lot of valuable insight into narrative and characters. Please keep doing them

  • @AudreyN
    @AudreyN 8 років тому +28

    "spring going into fall" is funny anyway bc spring... doesn't go directly into fall.

  • @WolvesOfValhalla
    @WolvesOfValhalla 4 роки тому +11

    I love how much you see in the characters and the way they interact with one another. It's refreshing.

  • @PhyzikTalks
    @PhyzikTalks 6 років тому +200

    I love these video's man, you deserve way more subs. I can't believe this Dartigan complains about cliche's and yet he has completely stolen the format of CinemaSins, I mean couldn't he have called the videos something other than 'Everything wrong with xxx' or maybe just not called them sins? The layout is the same, the pointless subtitles are the same, the ex machina/cliche/creepy jokes are the same. At least his sin timer doesn't have hours this time. Mad respect for your channel man!

    • @HebaruSan
      @HebaruSan 6 років тому +10

      I'd say it goes beyond cliche into impersonation/plagiarism territory. He probably hoped that fans of CinemaSins would see his videos and think they're from the same creators.

    • @pip5528
      @pip5528 6 років тому +1

      Only difference is that he doesn't bleep out his swear words arbitrarily.

    • @Tyufoe96
      @Tyufoe96 6 років тому +2

      Sam Wittsell and you can tell when dartigan is joking, unlike cinema sins

    • @davidpoa7775
      @davidpoa7775 6 років тому

      I actually like Dartigan

  • @sprankton
    @sprankton 8 років тому +52

    That guy missed the biggest sin in Last of Us; that recording from the doctor that says Ellie's blood grows cordiceps readily, thus invalidating the "we need to scoop out her brain" plot point. It really bothered me because it ruined what should have been a very dramatic part of the game, and it could have been fixed by simply removing the collectible from the game.

    • @theoneandonlymichaelmccormick
      @theoneandonlymichaelmccormick 5 років тому +15

      Sprankton Maybe it adds just another level of moral ambiguity to Joel’s eventual decision, I.e.: “What if this lethal operation that the Fireflies want to perform on Ellie proves to be ineffective or impractical, therefore invalidating the only rational justification I would have for letting my surrogate daughter be euthanized like a sick animal?”

    • @lucaomeri8730
      @lucaomeri8730 2 роки тому +5

      Super late reply, but the fireflies needed to extract a specific mutated strand of the cordyceps that is only present in the brain (it is the part of the fungus that protects Ellie from becoming just a regular infected), meaning that they actually needed to get to her brain.

    • @addison_v_ertisement1678
      @addison_v_ertisement1678 Рік тому +1

      ​@@lucaomeri8730Where does it say that?

  • @cadethumann8605
    @cadethumann8605 7 років тому +37

    20:41 Okay, that comment (not yours, the original video) was just bad taste and mean-spirited. Talking about a character outliving his usefulness right after he commits suicide over losing a loved one is just bad.
    Just thought I'd be honest here.

    • @SacridFire
      @SacridFire 6 років тому +16

      Yeah, it's super tone deaf, especially given how painful the scene is to watch (You'd spent enough time with the brothers to grow some slight affection for them before they died) and thus Sam's turning and Henry's suicide are just another tragedy on a game set in a world full of them. (I haven't seen Dartigan's video, but I assume he likely did something equally as tasteless with Tess' death earlier in the game)

  • @dalgusmaximus4557
    @dalgusmaximus4557 3 роки тому +35

    35:40
    You are both wrong. He actually does keep that knife. (it's actually just a shiv).
    You'll notice after certain encounters like the sniper and entering into the dam that joel gets an extra shiv if you aren't already maxed out.

  • @JammyD2579
    @JammyD2579 8 років тому +14

    Holy shit, this Dartigan is somehow even worse than Cinema Sins.

  • @MythicSuns
    @MythicSuns 6 років тому +13

    "kid has a skateboard cliche" and there was me thinking kids with skateboards was a very common site in this day and age but nope! According to this gaming sins guy a skateboard is overused as a visual set piece which implies that it's not something you'd see in a kids bedroom very often

  • @Odesawaan
    @Odesawaan 4 роки тому +19

    His criticism over a pandemic's unrealistically lethargic response has not aged well.

  • @reasonablyskeptical
    @reasonablyskeptical 7 років тому +50

    ambush cliche ex machina with a dash of casual racism and blatant sexism

  • @Charredasperity
    @Charredasperity 8 років тому +165

    also you should do a Game Theory video

    • @TwoPairSA
      @TwoPairSA 8 років тому +7

      God please no

    • @sangieredwolf
      @sangieredwolf 8 років тому +83

      Game Theory doesn't get enough hate.

    • @TommysPonny
      @TommysPonny 8 років тому +35

      Should do a video on the "Why The Star Trek Federation is Fascist " Film Theory piece because I've never wanted to scream at a monitor as bad as when i watched it.

    • @HawkmanWalker
      @HawkmanWalker 7 років тому +7

      Was subscribe to Film theory and hadn't watched nay of it for like a year until I saw that video which made me scream like a banshee and punch the wall of how dumb, idiotic, reactionary and moronic it was.

    • @OhShitSeriously
      @OhShitSeriously 7 років тому +4

      John Moody Indeed! Everyone knows the UFP is communist.

  • @gshooting
    @gshooting 8 років тому +197

    Thank you for this. That guy's videos are insufferable. I know his viewers give him an out by saying "he's just having fun" but his videos are like FOURTY minutes long.

    • @CoopRaccoon
      @CoopRaccoon 8 років тому +45

      Well, to be fair, games are way longer than movies. You do have a lot to go through.

    • @judemcdermott
      @judemcdermott 8 років тому +4

      slycooper20 _ but also you don't have to go through any of it. These shouldn't exist

    • @Nillocke27
      @Nillocke27 8 років тому +16

      They shouldn't exist because the goodness or badness of movies and games has nothing to do with how many "sins" they have, like it's some kind of utilitarian calculation.

    • @Nillocke27
      @Nillocke27 8 років тому +8

      I've never even looked on Metacritic, so I don't know, but do they have complete lists of "sins" for each and every movie? If yes, then that guarantees I'll never look at the site, as it's the laziest, most shallow form of film criticism I've ever seen.

    • @judemcdermott
      @judemcdermott 8 років тому

      0utta S1TE also they shouldn't exist because they are terrible and they make people commit suicide regularly. That's a fact I saw it somewhere

  • @ULAER
    @ULAER 5 років тому +18

    “Utterly meaningless” is a perfect description for both cinemasins and gamingsins

  • @thewhoppinator
    @thewhoppinator 2 роки тому +3

    I rewatch these every couple of months. I cannot tell you enough how much I enjoy them

  • @dalellll
    @dalellll 2 роки тому +3

    This gave me a lot more appreciation for what voice actors do. I like watching you diss these people because at the same time you're paying respect to the creative people that put their art out there.

  • @sadcat157
    @sadcat157 6 років тому +8

    “It’s not individual ideas that make something original; its the combination of already existing ideas.”
    OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO god that was so hot

  • @colonelvector
    @colonelvector 8 років тому +98

    Awesome video man, but in the "best lines from video games" how did you miss "There's a giant worm, AND IT'S EATING THE CITY!"

    • @bobvids
      @bobvids  8 років тому +18

      what's that from?!

    • @Kelerak2
      @Kelerak2 8 років тому +26

      I believe it's referring to Gears of War 2. The line is actually, "Anya, it's a giant worm! They're sinking cities with a GIANT WORM!"

    • @colonelvector
      @colonelvector 8 років тому +7

      That's the one, I remembered it wrong.
      Either way, it should definitely have been in there :D

    • @tcelesbhsup
      @tcelesbhsup 8 років тому +5

      I dunno man, "ICICLE DISASTERRRRR." is really damn good.

    • @bigfatcarp93
      @bigfatcarp93 7 років тому +6

      I can't believe you missed "Master of unlocking..."

  • @Krbyfan1
    @Krbyfan1 8 років тому +96

    Was there ever a point where ____sins type of videos made good points while being witty or have they always grasped for straws due to lack of paying attention?

    • @Kelerak2
      @Kelerak2 8 років тому +74

      I've heard tell that the earlier CinemaSins videos do make some good points, but those videos were usually about 5 minutes long. They've since expanded to 15 probably due to the average investment in a UA-cam video being that long, and so that they seem like they're smarter.
      The ad revenue obsession gets the best of us, I'm afraid.

    • @redblueandgray
      @redblueandgray 7 років тому +1

      Washu Hakubi Occasionally they catch things like bloopers.

    • @espalorp3286
      @espalorp3286 6 років тому +4

      I'm pretty convinced that people originally watched because they pointed out valid fridge logic, and as you mentioned bloopers in films you mightn't have noticed otherwise. However the only change I've ever seen in Cinemasins myself is they "broke" the sins counter and now they do the previously mentioned fridge logic critiques even less.

    • @kaisburg2450
      @kaisburg2450 6 років тому +1

      Dartigan has his moments. TLOU and Uncharted 4 are not his best o videos.
      Also, ValeforXD is actually good, but he's only done the Ratchet and Clank games.

    • @Freelancer837
      @Freelancer837 6 років тому +4

      They seem to pay too much attention to small details, that they overlook some big things. Hell, the guy in this video did as well at certain points.

  • @Crowelephant
    @Crowelephant 6 років тому +33

    Thank you. Thank you. Didn't realize how much I crave intelligent comedy until this. And also, the plot and acting in this game is better than a lot of movies. I'm a grown man and some of the cutscenes legit made me cry. The only thing I have to agree with CinemaSins on is the awesomeness of that line delivered by a little girl in a jail cell, just the sheer ballsiness of it, I cheered.

  • @TanakaMatsumoto
    @TanakaMatsumoto 7 років тому +49

    Spring going into fall??? Does this guy know how seasons work? Spring goes into summer which goes into fall... Damn even this game version is a bunch of fails...

  • @casualtr4sh
    @casualtr4sh 8 років тому +100

    why did so many bad lines involve ice?

    • @theenglishman
      @theenglishman 8 років тому +86

      Dunno. They sounded pretty cool to me.

    • @casualtr4sh
      @casualtr4sh 8 років тому +14

      theenglishman god damn it!

    • @theenglishman
      @theenglishman 8 років тому +6

      teehee ^_^

    • @Carbon2861996
      @Carbon2861996 6 років тому +9

      C'mon, chill, man.

    • @totallynameless8861
      @totallynameless8861 6 років тому +5

      I'm ice-static about this! I don't know why people are so frosty towards puns.

  • @pavelhoral
    @pavelhoral 7 років тому +16

    Seeing the argument between Joel and Ellie about Sarah brought tears to my eyes for some reason.

    • @Robbay363
      @Robbay363 6 років тому +11

      It's the voice acting, man. The way Troy delivers that line "you are treading on some mighty thin ice here" just gives me chills every time I watch it. Of course the writing is great too but the performances were something else for this game.

    • @bm.3278
      @bm.3278 6 років тому +1

      i teared up too lol this damn game

  • @saccharine1759
    @saccharine1759 2 роки тому +2

    you learn something new every day. i’d never registered joel’s screams when sarah was shot and i’ve played this game more times than i can count lmao

  • @skrrskrr
    @skrrskrr 6 років тому +7

    33:56 ...and "What is a man? A miserable little pile of secrets".

  • @MsOdale7
    @MsOdale7 4 роки тому +4

    "Did you want the infected to construct elaborate contraptions just to hide their ancient fungus treasure"
    Yes. In fact, yes. That's something I would also like.

  • @theenglishman
    @theenglishman 8 років тому +82

    "That's not the right morning, dude"
    ...Or maybe just some really icky foreshadowing?

    • @bobvids
      @bobvids  8 років тому +64

      i considered that too but there are enough other misspellings that i doubt it. possible though

    • @Liberator130
      @Liberator130 8 років тому +5

      You should sleep on it. Wait until the "mourning" before you come to a judgment about these guys.

    • @SchulzEricT
      @SchulzEricT 7 років тому +7

      Thank you for the point about cliches. People acting like "cliche" is a bad thing always, all the time has annoyed me for as long as I've noticed it.
      Clearly if somebody thought about it they'd realize that cliches can act as short-hand for authors (or directors, or screenwriters) in order to package a large amount of information in a small amount of exposition. It can be easier and more convenient to use cliches sometimes in order to focus on those elements of the story that truly matter because time is finite.
      Also, it allows for satisfying subverting of cliches later.
      Dismissing anything as cliche if you see it for a second is lazy and stupid, as evidenced by "exposition news broadcast cliche". Oh, you mean that on the news they're talking about stuff that's newsworthy? Indeed, what a cliche. That'd be like if you turned on ESPN and sports were on, or weather updates on the weather channel.
      Should kids in video games not be allowed to play sports, because that's a cliche? Or have glasses, because that's a cliche too?
      There's nothing I hate more than intellectual laziness, and goddamn does CS (and knockoffs) really embody that most frustrating and annoying of qualities.

  • @SonicKid7
    @SonicKid7 6 років тому +1

    I really enjoy the butane stove section. It seems like you genuinely care to help someone understand such a fun and useful fact.

  • @ieatgarbage8771
    @ieatgarbage8771 6 років тому +264

    Audio cliche
    Base 10 cliche
    Arabic numerals cliche
    Colors cliche
    English cliche
    editing cliche
    Internet cliche
    Timer cliche

    • @_ikako_
      @_ikako_ 3 роки тому

      *colours
      Alternate, localised spelling of a word cliche.

    • @jayvhoncalma3458
      @jayvhoncalma3458 3 роки тому

      Dartigan has obsession is a cliche

  • @fwuz_
    @fwuz_ 8 років тому +10

    hey bob your delivery for sin 90 was fucking 10/10. love it.

  • @dyrnwynski
    @dyrnwynski 8 років тому +12

    Video games sins is weird because it appears to only be cinema sins applied to video games. It just focuses on plot beats and story elements. When actually, because of technical limitations, trying to appeal to diverse audiences, and how immature the artform is, there are LOADS of actual things to complain about in terms of gameplay in almost every single game. AND there are more misused tropes and cliches where pointing that out would actually be valid.

  • @bigfatcarp93
    @bigfatcarp93 7 років тому +29

    Please do more of these.

    • @bobvids
      @bobvids  7 років тому +32

      working on the next one now!

    • @bigfatcarp93
      @bigfatcarp93 7 років тому

      Shesellssheshells W00t! Thank you!

    • @sonicandsallyforever
      @sonicandsallyforever 7 років тому +2

      Sweet! I just love it when people like you rip into CinemaSins and similar channels.

  • @Starlesslemon
    @Starlesslemon 7 років тому +15

    Wtf is "spring going into fall"? Isn't that just summer??

  • @hermeticascetic
    @hermeticascetic 5 років тому +4

    Gaming sins: criticizing for something being unoriginal
    Also gaming sins: has a channel founded on literally ripping off literally every aspect of another channel
    Missing from the equation: self awareness.

  • @starship-nine4892
    @starship-nine4892 2 роки тому +4

    I swear to god I’m gonna have that “You had a good chance of surviving, and YOU DID” line in my head for a few years now after watching this.

  • @TOMahawk207isawsome
    @TOMahawk207isawsome 6 років тому +6

    >estimated yearly earnings
    >$90k-$1.5M
    >$1.4M range
    Yeah I don’t know much I’d trust that

    • @SomeOne-vf1rs
      @SomeOne-vf1rs 2 роки тому

      $90K+ a year is still really good money. Especially if you’re just watching movies and bragging to your audience how much you don’t understand them...

  • @MidnightSt
    @MidnightSt 6 років тому +1

    3:48 the "exposition news broadcast" is actually a very good and effective SUBVERSION of the cliché, as the explosion that happens in the broadcast also happens outside the window, which is a very good "oh shit" moment, that CONNECTS you to the "remote happenings on the tv", which is... well... opposite to what the news broadcast cliché is. and a very cool and strong and well done moment.

  • @cyberjoy404
    @cyberjoy404 2 роки тому +2

    26:58 nah man that would the coolest thing to happen to a university

  • @iamstewpit6740
    @iamstewpit6740 6 років тому +6

    Technically, it's not a zombie apocalypse either, sense the infection, doesn't actually turn people into zombies, in fact, it doesn't actually kill, just takes away any & all control, they had over what they do.
    Also, scientists have found that, something like the Cordyceps fungus, COULD actually cause something like this in real life.

    • @theoneandonlymichaelmccormick
      @theoneandonlymichaelmccormick 5 років тому

      sgt Hale107 Granted, it would take a particularly mutated strain.

    • @husky0098
      @husky0098 9 місяців тому

      Bell curve meme
      Dumb guy: it's zombies
      Average guy: your comment
      Smart guy: it's zombies

  • @bonemech5000
    @bonemech5000 2 роки тому +2

    4:00 wait hold up.. exposition news broadcast cliche??! IT'S THE NEWS!

  • @LadyDeSelby
    @LadyDeSelby 8 років тому +13

    I fear the day somebody makes a video like this for a game I love like No More Heroes or Deadly Premonition something. If such a thing happens, I may have to do a countervideo myself.

    • @Kelerak2
      @Kelerak2 8 років тому +4

      You have nothing to worry about, I'm sure these folks only do mainstream AAA games so they can maximize their ad revenue.

  • @SewerTapes
    @SewerTapes 6 років тому +1

    The arranging still images in rapid succession to create the illusion of movement cliché is one of the funniest things I've heard in a long time, Bob. Thanks.

  • @hoopsiclemcgee4244
    @hoopsiclemcgee4244 8 років тому +5

    These must be so much work to research and edit but thank you man. That was glorious to watch. This is a man who sins other for cliches whose entire show was stolen whole cloth from another. It's so lovely to see someone show exactly how they're wrong

  • @cadethumann8605
    @cadethumann8605 7 років тому +2

    Another interesting thing to point out in regards to the "being surprised attacked despite being able to pinpoint locations" thing is that in the survival difficulty, your listen ability is disabled, so you can't tell where enemies can be other than actually seeing them or actually hearing their noises without a highlight.

  • @reddevil9312
    @reddevil9312 3 роки тому +3

    13:19 "Let's just assume Naughty Dog don't know what they're doing and just blindly follow trends."
    2020 here. People did that.

  • @DigitalStarry
    @DigitalStarry 8 років тому +2

    These videos are great, please don't stop making them

  • @TripleTSingt
    @TripleTSingt 5 років тому +3

    "Spring going into fall"
    This guy has never heard of the concept of "summer"

  • @youwatts
    @youwatts 6 років тому +2

    I'm a long time Dartigan subscriber and I found myself nodding to almost every sin you've given. You earned a new sub and I think you deserve even more. Keep up the quality content!

  • @Kelerak2
    @Kelerak2 8 років тому +67

    Great video, by the way. I've been holding off on buying The Last of Us for a while now, but seeing this video convinced me to give it a shot.
    Your takedowns of these faux-intellectual UA-cam channels are cathartic and very much enjoyable to watch. Will you be branching out to other channels besides CinemaSins and Dartigan?

    • @WFoong98
      @WFoong98 8 років тому +2

      It is fine but there is lot of bugs and AI problem though so just beware.

    • @wallacesousuke1433
      @wallacesousuke1433 8 років тому

      also, the game is booooooooooring and stupid

    • @dremichael9752
      @dremichael9752 7 років тому +17

      Willy et scientia because youre probably emotionless. Man, these critics never give a valid reason to say something is not good.

    • @silviogrijalva8801
      @silviogrijalva8801 7 років тому +10

      Willy et scientia truely the pinnacle of criticism. Very convincing

    • @iMasterchris
      @iMasterchris 6 років тому +2

      Kelerak Not to be rude, but you kinda watched a video that spoils the whole thing...

  • @locococo8961
    @locococo8961 5 років тому +2

    6:57 - 6:58 if you pause you can even see a bullet wound on Joel's shoulder so he did get shot

  • @sarsmask
    @sarsmask 8 років тому +13

    Oh my god, making this must have been so insufferable until you got numb to it.

  • @Nillocke27
    @Nillocke27 8 років тому +1

    Dude, thank you so much for making these, they've become some of my favorite videos on YT.

  • @avengingarchangel1158
    @avengingarchangel1158 4 роки тому +10

    I can't emphasize the rebuttal of the "Ellie can drive" sin enough. It reminds me of the Rey critiques in The Force Awakens. If we start having to show our characters learning any skills that become useful later, our movies/games/whatever medium is going to be way longer than necessary and be super fucking boring.

  • @MDPOPE
    @MDPOPE 6 років тому +1

    An important line Joel issues to Tommy, "...seen her take in enough spores to take down a dozen men... Nothin'..." is pretty good evidence for the spore sticking to clothes critique. It shows here that there's an amount you can breathe in. And the fact a grown man might be able to take in an amount before being affected, where women and children might not as well.

  • @justincruz5720
    @justincruz5720 3 роки тому +4

    2:08 Yeah, I never really understood this as a sin myself.
    5:28 Alright, people. Be honest here. Do any of you guys read the newspaper on the toilet?
    10:30 Not surprising to me that I’ve heard this exact same sin in another video just like this. Recycled sins.
    Do you think that infected can open doors?
    You see, this is part of the reason of why I love Bill. “The enemy of my enemy is my friend.” Maybe that’s also another reason why Frank left Bill. ‘Cause he was jealous. 😏😂
    16:27 Yeah. He literally says, “We only take what we have to.”
    20:33 Does that look like a bite to you?
    21:43 I would argue that the problem with that line is the delivery. Instead of sounding skeptical, Tommy sounds oblivious. Instead of sounding like, “Immune to WHAT, Joel? Are you serious? Stop being ridiculous. None of that crazy talk,” Tommy sounds like, “Immune to what? There’s a pandemic going around? I had no idea. I’ve been living under a rock for 20 years.” There’s curiosity, and then there’s disbelief.

  • @giogiolachance4313
    @giogiolachance4313 2 роки тому +1

    Also I love how everything is explain and tie together, beautiful video

  • @charlietheuncreative6737
    @charlietheuncreative6737 7 років тому +4

    Okay, but the "20 YEARS LATER" "thanks" joke kills me every fucking time and I have no clue why.

  • @TallMist
    @TallMist 7 років тому +2

    Please, please, PLEASE make more "Everything Wrong With Everything Wrong With" videos. These are SO GOOD!

  • @TheFMAlchemist63
    @TheFMAlchemist63 8 років тому +5

    This was actually very refreshing to watch. Glad it was informative and provided reasoning as to why things happened. Sad that majority of it would have been considered not a "sin" with common sense and reasoning, but oh well.
    Look forward to some more of your Everything Wrong With videos!

  • @adindoyle3894
    @adindoyle3894 6 років тому +1

    For sin 39 about Ellie driving stick, it's also made obvious in the DLC and the American Dreams comic that Ellie has received military training to some extent, so it's completely possible that some of that training up til now has included learning to drive.

  • @kyled1813
    @kyled1813 2 роки тому +2

    Jeez I can't imagine music and sports being something a kid in Texas would grow up with.

    • @ook4698
      @ook4698 2 роки тому

      this is what i was saying while watching this!! im a texan and we are all about that shit

  • @kat8559
    @kat8559 5 років тому +3

    'spring going into fall'

  • @Sun-Tzu-
    @Sun-Tzu- 6 років тому +1

    15:20, in the DLC if you shake the skull in the Halloween store, she asks it the question "Will I ever get to drive a car again?"

  • @johnconstantine171
    @johnconstantine171 6 років тому +3

    Hey, I just found your channel and I have to say, I'm really upset I didn't find it sooner.

  • @kattyberg246
    @kattyberg246 7 років тому +1

    That cliches rant at the beginning really hit home for me, I never thought about it like that before. Great observation!

  • @fin3662
    @fin3662 Рік тому +4

    the fact that in the middle of his video about the last of us this guy just straight up outs himself as a pedo is bananas

  • @MGX93dot
    @MGX93dot 6 років тому +1

    15:31 personally for me the joke/sin was an American knowing how to drive "stick" as you call it, let alone a child. Like it's actually a theft deterrant there because so few people can drive manual.

  • @rayreiquaza
    @rayreiquaza 7 років тому +22

    Love this/these! I watched CinemaSins for a while but stopped on account of it being bullshit - great counter-criticism on this & the others. My only counter sin to these is there aren't more of these, I was hoping for a massive binge shitting on CinemaSins! Keep up the good work =D

  • @Richard_Nickerson
    @Richard_Nickerson 3 роки тому +2

    Spring going into Fall? This dude hasn't heard of Summer?