@@ReiP95 I've been thinking about it, especially that Gothic Remake becomes more and more popular. But it takes time to prepare and I have other things on my head. We'll see. The channel is pretty much frozen as it is of today.
Ayyy, bratan. Believe me, it's the same sort of thing with Hungarian. Your language and it's pronounciation is insanely difficult and unintuitive for me. Frankly speaking... I find Japanese much easier to pronounce than Hungarian, despite the fact that technically I used to talk a lot with two people from Hungary. Nevertheless, cheers. Thanks for being here :>
Whats up! Awesome video man. Came here directly from L'Hiver english Discord. Anything awesome about gothic that is also for non polish/russian/german speakers is more than welcomed. :) Thank you.
Indeed! Currently, I'm preparing "The New Camp" episode. I'd probably released it a few days ago but unfortunately I caught a flu, so there's no way for me to work in such conditions.
W sumie to nie do końca rozumiem dlaczego Polacy nie lubią swojego własnego akcentu. Przecież Afrykańczycy mają jeszcze mocniejszy niż my, a nikt z nich nie marudzi, że mówią jak mówią xD
Nie nauczysz się RP jeśli nie zaczniesz najpierw mówić z tym _polaczkowatym_ akcentem. Nie podoba mi się taka retoryka i podejście do używania obcych języków.
the protection money is a good system for keeping peace among convicts AND profiting off people. As one npc mentions, 2 protected npcs will both get beat up (killed?) if they fight. This means everyone has to be hyper aware of eachothers protection status before trying to fight. And everyone's motivated to mine ore.
For beginning players they have 0 ore so they would be pretty offended from asking for protection money off the get go. Honestly I made do without paying them anything. And made sure I killed them first when I was massacring the enitre town. Of course you can always pay them protection ore. Then kill them afterwards and get your ore back. This is why Gothic is the greatest RPG ever.
Raczej nie. To zbyt duże rozproszenie działalności. Po prostu będą dwie playlisty. Poza tym nie widzę powodu, by angielskie community nie wchodziło w interakcje z polskim i odwrotnie.
@@Farathriel Według mnie robienie jeszcze raz tych samych materiałów po angielsku jest bez sensu dorzucenie napisów powinno wystarczyć, szczególnie jak weźmie się pod uwagę że te gry wybiły się tylko w Polsce i Niemczech na świecie przeszły bez echa i raczej nikt nie ma do nich żadnej nostalgii
@@konradciechomski7649 mam trochę inne dane statystyczne na podstawie filmów, które dotychczas wylądowały na moim kanale, stąd... też krok w innym kierunku. Poza tym większość niemieckiej i rosyjskiej grupy odbiorców tej gry to ludzie w wieku 18-30 lat. Podobnie jak ja, znają oni angielski na tyle, by nie musieć wchodzić w interakcję wyłącznie z niemieckimi i rosyjskimi treściami.
Bardzo fajny pomysł z playlistą polską i angielską. To prawda, że Gothic nie wybił się jakoś globalnie, ale materiały po angielsku szybciej dotrą do Niemców, Włochów i Węgrów niż nasz piękny Polski :D
@@Farathriel You could take a look at German UA-camrs like Jorgenson or Plasquar. I don't know about the latter, but I know Jorgenson is OK with self-advertising on his Discord. Maybe shoot him a message beforehand, he's a good I guy. Komm vorbei und iss mal 'ne Wurst! I think the bulk of community activity goes on on worldofgothic.de, I don't know much about how them though.
@@duhnboa5447 Allrighty then! I appreciate the information. Thank you. As far as I'm concerned, worldofgothic.de is somewhat dead aside from modding community. Advertising such content there wouldn't be the most adequate way of marketing.
I think you are too focused on negatives of the Old Camp. It has its good side and bad one. For example mentioned guards Jackal and Bloodwyn. Jackal was a "good" guy as he simply asks for the payment. If you pay once you are under his protection (until later stages of the game) and there are no consequences of refusing to pay. Bloodwyn on other hand is a bad guy who will demand payment every day and refusing means people will try to kill you. Also Zimbardos experiment is highly unscientific (small sample size, no neutral observer, direct influence of experimenter, reliance on anecdotal evidence etc.) so it falls between antivax types of studies. But in general it's quiet nice video.
It's a tricky job balancing here with those videos. I try to keep it under the idea that all camps are somewhat bad and broken. While good things are... well, they're quite obvious. You see them, you notice them once you play the game for a moment. On the other hand, I wanted to take a look at some hidden, less obvious pathologies. Of course, I should've mentioned that Zimbardo's experiment is highly unethical and broken, nevertheless - it shows some things and portait them well enough for less scientific purposes I assumed here.
It's too bad the game didn't get enough development on the New Camp. But in a way it kind of makes sense. The Old Camp really demonizes the New Camp of being full of murderers, liars and killers. But honestly I found Old Camp way more cutthroat. On the first impression everyone would find Old Camp a lot more seedy and prison convict like. Two guys walk around collecting protection money, some guy just attacks you out of the blue, some guy lures you out the camp on a lie hes' going to help you then tries to kill you wiht his buddies, I did hear a rumor that Mud was in the penal colony for sodomy reason why nobody in the camp cares if you harm or kill him, Gomez is probably the worst leader you want to side with who will kill you with a second thought. New Camp comes out as prisoners that don't want to be involved in continuing being criminals except they do thave their share of cutthroat moments. Gothic 2 fully shows how New Camp members are complete assholes though which probably wasn't added into Gothic 1. Or maybe it's because the Old Camp has dissolved in Gothic 2 and they just needed an asshole faction. Gothic 2 confirms the rumors about New Camp much more and that Old Camp wasn't completely propagating the truth.
@@kissme1518 in the new camp you have the rice lord gang, shriek who stolen Gorns hut, some random guy you are warned about (I think he attacked me in one play-trough but I could not recreate again), guy who let you collect food for party then beat you, and guys in a cave that makes fake(?) swamp weed also as gothic is a great game they could pour another year or two of development, its always nice to analyze difference between what is being said and what are the real actions of game characters but they still are just game characters and some features (their actions) just weren't implemented
@@kissme1518 "most of the asshole in gothic 2 u are talking" is not from new camp. Sentenza, Bullco, Silvio ... from a south area of Khorinis Island, not from New Camp members.
Witam serdecznie, piękne filmy robisz i zajebiscie się tego słucha lecz mam jedną sugestie bądź podpowiedź. Otóż według mnie wystarczyło by dodać napisy angielskie i w tytule o tym zaznaczyć, że takie są możliwe. Ułatwi Ci to trochę pracę, a dzięki temu upieczesz dwie pieczenie na jednym ogniu z podobnym, a może i większym rezultatem co 2 filmy. Zdobywając więcej wyświetleń na jednym masz większą szansę na promocję kolejnych. Robiąc dwa takie same materiały zachęcasz wszystkie grupy ale dzielisz wyświetlenia ;) pozdrawiam serdeczenie
Dobrze, że mi to uświadomiłeś. Tylko, że tu trochę mam dylemat, bo z jednej strony chcę mieć portfolio z podcastami w języku angielskim, a z drugiej strony jest kwestia wyświetleń i marketingu. Jednak postawię na portfolio, a marketing chwilo zepchnę na dalszy plan. Możliwe, że mi to opóźni kanał lub go nawet utrzyma cofniętym, ale trudno. Planuję pakować tutaj też inny content, nie tylko z Gothica. Więc w przyszłości chciałbym widzieć tutaj przynajmniej z 5-6 filmów w pełnej obsadzie anglojęzycznej.
Tho i dont like to join them in the game, the game clearly show that the swamp camp is the best place to live: In the old camp you must pay protection or get bullied. Diggers also seems wery poor and opressed In the new camp you get bullied as they force you to bring water to the rice farmers. Most of new camp dwellers are also criminals and thugs redy to do some harm. The swamp camp dudes instead tho they are a bit crazy they dont seems to be a evil bunch they dont seems to be oppressed too much and no one ewer try to bully you... And it also seems that canonically everyone get some weed for free from the camp... And weed is in hig demand in other camps...
Sure, socially wise Old Camp and New Camp are the least pleasant places to be. With the emphasis on New Camp being the most thuggish. In that sense Swamp Camp may be tempting but it is a facade, an illusion that quickly backfires as revealed in Gothic 2 - to put it simple: you get possessed by a demon, your mind is shattered and you're forced into eternal servitude for the lord of darkness. I still prefer to deal with corporeal beings such as humans. These I can kill at least😆
@@Farathriel i finished all 3 gothic games, tho i dont really rember the second I remeber that in the first ues the sleeper was basically a minion of beliar (tho hasishins in g3 also are and they are doing great) and yes the sleeper mentally enslave the leaders of the swamp but ot seems that the average novice os just a bit stoned by weed but have no demon in the hed... I belive that at the start of g2 you even meet an old pal near xardas tower and he seems to be fine... I say that old camps leader are even more mentally compromized as swamp eventually help you against the sleepwr wile old camp in theyr huge greed decide to make war vs other camp and try to prevent the destruction of the barrier ultimately helping the sleeper... So i am still conviced that swamp camp is the best and it' s leadership is not as mentally compromised as the old camp. You can say that new camp has the best leader as the water mages are the one whit the plan to destroy the barrier but first theu are not actiallu leader they just sit in cave asking mercenary to keep thugs at bay and second they are the dudes who placed the barrier in the first place... One last thing... Old camps are prisoners of the kingdom, new camp are those same prisoner who decided to go away from old camp, wile swamp camp it seems that it was alredy there... Game is unclear abaut this tho
@@ReiP95 All Swamp Camp members become Seekers, so... things don't go very well for them in the sequel. As for the inhabitants of the Mine Valley - all of them are comprised of convinced criminals. Khorinis Mine Valley was always, in fact, a penal colony. The only sentient natives there were orcs.
To zależy. Niby angielskiego uczę się od 4 klasy podstawówki, więc teoretycznie to jest już ponad 16 lat nauki. Ale tak naprawdę takie poważne uczenie się jak mówić, pisać i się komunikować zacząłem gdzieś dopiero około 17 roku życia. Z czasem przyszły kontakty zagraniczne, mieszkanie w akademiku pełnym obcokrajowców, dyskusje na uniwersytecie po angielsku. O i tak to wyszło że teraz jest jak jest.
@@Farathriel ja próbuję się nauczyć ale niestety nie mam możliwości rozmawiać z nikim w tym języku, przez co przyswajanie wiedzy jest wolniejsze i mniej efektywne
@@fcavazza2552 poszukaj rozmówcy na interpals. To taka platforma społecznościowa do kontaktów międzynarodowych. No i też dobrym nawykiem jest mówić do siebie samego po angielsku i myśleć w tym języku. To pomaga oswoić się z pojęciami i ułatwia automatyzację wypowiedzi.
Let me know how many International community members we have here. Just like this comment, write something, whatever else.
@@Farathriel oh ye I would love to have english version of the other 2 camps
@@ReiP95 I've been thinking about it, especially that Gothic Remake becomes more and more popular. But it takes time to prepare and I have other things on my head. We'll see. The channel is pretty much frozen as it is of today.
Oh my! I really thank you for this! Now I finally can understand the analysis. Very well made!
Ale dobra robota, naprawde poszedles above and beyond, bardzo szanuje
Can you do the english version of yours other videos? At least the subtitles 😢 nice video btw
Great video! It just takes so much time to learn Polish just to understand your other videos. :( Maybe within a few years. :D Pozdrowienia z Wegier!
Ayyy, bratan. Believe me, it's the same sort of thing with Hungarian. Your language and it's pronounciation is insanely difficult and unintuitive for me. Frankly speaking... I find Japanese much easier to pronounce than Hungarian, despite the fact that technically I used to talk a lot with two people from Hungary.
Nevertheless, cheers. Thanks for being here :>
Whats up! Awesome video man. Came here directly from L'Hiver english Discord. Anything awesome about gothic that is also for non polish/russian/german speakers is more than welcomed. :) Thank you.
Następną rozmowę nagrywamy po angielsku :P
Are you going to make videos about each of the 3 factions ? If there's a game that's worth the effort then, this is it !
Indeed! Currently, I'm preparing "The New Camp" episode. I'd probably released it a few days ago but unfortunately I caught a flu, so there's no way for me to work in such conditions.
I chose the Swamp Camp. No regrets.
Nice, rozwijasz się :) nie spodziewałem się anglojęzycznej wersji, bardzo dobry akcent nie brzmi polaczkowatym zaciąganiem
W sumie to nie do końca rozumiem dlaczego Polacy nie lubią swojego własnego akcentu. Przecież Afrykańczycy mają jeszcze mocniejszy niż my, a nikt z nich nie marudzi, że mówią jak mówią xD
Nie nauczysz się RP jeśli nie zaczniesz najpierw mówić z tym _polaczkowatym_ akcentem. Nie podoba mi się taka retoryka i podejście do używania obcych języków.
Subscribed! Would love more English content!
the protection money is a good system for keeping peace among convicts AND profiting off people. As one npc mentions, 2 protected npcs will both get beat up (killed?) if they fight. This means everyone has to be hyper aware of eachothers protection status before trying to fight. And everyone's motivated to mine ore.
Wasn't it the other way around? If both have paid for protection, they'll "enjoy the show"? I think it was Jackal who said it.
@@duhnboa5447 oh, a digger said the guards watch till one of them kills the other and then theyd get rid of the winner.
@@GVSHvids Ah, so that's the deal. Makes sense :)
For beginning players they have 0 ore so they would be pretty offended from asking for protection money off the get go. Honestly I made do without paying them anything. And made sure I killed them first when I was massacring the enitre town.
Of course you can always pay them protection ore. Then kill them afterwards and get your ore back. This is why Gothic is the greatest RPG ever.
you didnt do any for the other camps (english)? :D Wanted to know more about the water mages
Myślałeś może nad założeniem osobnego kanału na materiały w Jezyku Angielskim?
Raczej nie. To zbyt duże rozproszenie działalności. Po prostu będą dwie playlisty. Poza tym nie widzę powodu, by angielskie community nie wchodziło w interakcje z polskim i odwrotnie.
@@Farathriel Według mnie robienie jeszcze raz tych samych materiałów po angielsku jest bez sensu dorzucenie napisów powinno wystarczyć, szczególnie jak weźmie się pod uwagę że te gry wybiły się tylko w Polsce i Niemczech na świecie przeszły bez echa i raczej nikt nie ma do nich żadnej nostalgii
@Clicky no to byłby niemalże grzech nie dać angielskiej narracji głosowej jednocześnie znając angielski xD
@@konradciechomski7649 mam trochę inne dane statystyczne na podstawie filmów, które dotychczas wylądowały na moim kanale, stąd... też krok w innym kierunku. Poza tym większość niemieckiej i rosyjskiej grupy odbiorców tej gry to ludzie w wieku 18-30 lat. Podobnie jak ja, znają oni angielski na tyle, by nie musieć wchodzić w interakcję wyłącznie z niemieckimi i rosyjskimi treściami.
Bardzo fajny pomysł z playlistą polską i angielską. To prawda, że Gothic nie wybił się jakoś globalnie, ale materiały po angielsku szybciej dotrą do Niemców, Włochów i Węgrów niż nasz piękny Polski :D
Hi! I would very appreciate if you point for me to texture/mod pack you use for footages. It looks very nice. Thanks :)
nice video, too bad all your others are in polish. i subscribed anyway maybe you will do some more english content :D
I will be translating everything I have on my channel :D
German here 🙋
Hey! It's good to have you here.
Do you know how could I reach German Gothic communities?
@@Farathriel You could take a look at German UA-camrs like Jorgenson or Plasquar. I don't know about the latter, but I know Jorgenson is OK with self-advertising on his Discord. Maybe shoot him a message beforehand, he's a good I guy. Komm vorbei und iss mal 'ne Wurst!
I think the bulk of community activity goes on on worldofgothic.de, I don't know much about how them though.
@@duhnboa5447 Allrighty then! I appreciate the information. Thank you.
As far as I'm concerned, worldofgothic.de is somewhat dead aside from modding community. Advertising such content there wouldn't be the most adequate way of marketing.
I think you are too focused on negatives of the Old Camp. It has its good side and bad one.
For example mentioned guards Jackal and Bloodwyn. Jackal was a "good" guy as he simply asks for the payment. If you pay once you are under his protection (until later stages of the game) and there are no consequences of refusing to pay. Bloodwyn on other hand is a bad guy who will demand payment every day and refusing means people will try to kill you.
Also Zimbardos experiment is highly unscientific (small sample size, no neutral observer, direct influence of experimenter, reliance on anecdotal evidence etc.) so it falls between antivax types of studies.
But in general it's quiet nice video.
It's a tricky job balancing here with those videos. I try to keep it under the idea that all camps are somewhat bad and broken. While good things are... well, they're quite obvious. You see them, you notice them once you play the game for a moment. On the other hand, I wanted to take a look at some hidden, less obvious pathologies.
Of course, I should've mentioned that Zimbardo's experiment is highly unethical and broken, nevertheless - it shows some things and portait them well enough for less scientific purposes I assumed here.
It's too bad the game didn't get enough development on the New Camp. But in a way it kind of makes sense. The Old Camp really demonizes the New Camp of being full of murderers, liars and killers. But honestly I found Old Camp way more cutthroat. On the first impression everyone would find Old Camp a lot more seedy and prison convict like. Two guys walk around collecting protection money, some guy just attacks you out of the blue, some guy lures you out the camp on a lie hes' going to help you then tries to kill you wiht his buddies, I did hear a rumor that Mud was in the penal colony for sodomy reason why nobody in the camp cares if you harm or kill him, Gomez is probably the worst leader you want to side with who will kill you with a second thought. New Camp comes out as prisoners that don't want to be involved in continuing being criminals except they do thave their share of cutthroat moments. Gothic 2 fully shows how New Camp members are complete assholes though which probably wasn't added into Gothic 1. Or maybe it's because the Old Camp has dissolved in Gothic 2 and they just needed an asshole faction. Gothic 2 confirms the rumors about New Camp much more and that Old Camp wasn't completely propagating the truth.
@@kissme1518 in the new camp you have the rice lord gang, shriek who stolen Gorns hut, some random guy you are warned about (I think he attacked me in one play-trough but I could not recreate again), guy who let you collect food for party then beat you, and guys in a cave that makes fake(?) swamp weed
also as gothic is a great game they could pour another year or two of development, its always nice to analyze difference between what is being said and what are the real actions of game characters but they still are just game characters and some features (their actions) just weren't implemented
@@kissme1518 "most of the asshole in gothic 2 u are talking" is not from new camp. Sentenza, Bullco, Silvio ... from a south area of Khorinis Island, not from New Camp members.
Witam serdecznie, piękne filmy robisz i zajebiscie się tego słucha lecz mam jedną sugestie bądź podpowiedź. Otóż według mnie wystarczyło by dodać napisy angielskie i w tytule o tym zaznaczyć, że takie są możliwe. Ułatwi Ci to trochę pracę, a dzięki temu upieczesz dwie pieczenie na jednym ogniu z podobnym, a może i większym rezultatem co 2 filmy. Zdobywając więcej wyświetleń na jednym masz większą szansę na promocję kolejnych. Robiąc dwa takie same materiały zachęcasz wszystkie grupy ale dzielisz wyświetlenia ;) pozdrawiam serdeczenie
Dobrze, że mi to uświadomiłeś. Tylko, że tu trochę mam dylemat, bo z jednej strony chcę mieć portfolio z podcastami w języku angielskim, a z drugiej strony jest kwestia wyświetleń i marketingu. Jednak postawię na portfolio, a marketing chwilo zepchnę na dalszy plan. Możliwe, że mi to opóźni kanał lub go nawet utrzyma cofniętym, ale trudno. Planuję pakować tutaj też inny content, nie tylko z Gothica. Więc w przyszłości chciałbym widzieć tutaj przynajmniej z 5-6 filmów w pełnej obsadzie anglojęzycznej.
Nie no, fakt że ma aż tysiąc wyświetleń świadczy że jednak trochę mu się opłaciło
Thank you!! Could you please share your mod list / graphics settings? G1 looks awesome on your rig.
Tho i dont like to join them in the game, the game clearly show that the swamp camp is the best place to live:
In the old camp you must pay protection or get bullied.
Diggers also seems wery poor and opressed
In the new camp you get bullied as they force you to bring water to the rice farmers. Most of new camp dwellers are also criminals and thugs redy to do some harm.
The swamp camp dudes instead tho they are a bit crazy they dont seems to be a evil bunch they dont seems to be oppressed too much and no one ewer try to bully you... And it also seems that canonically everyone get some weed for free from the camp... And weed is in hig demand in other camps...
Sure, socially wise Old Camp and New Camp are the least pleasant places to be. With the emphasis on New Camp being the most thuggish. In that sense Swamp Camp may be tempting but it is a facade, an illusion that quickly backfires as revealed in Gothic 2 - to put it simple: you get possessed by a demon, your mind is shattered and you're forced into eternal servitude for the lord of darkness. I still prefer to deal with corporeal beings such as humans. These I can kill at least😆
@@Farathriel i finished all 3 gothic games, tho i dont really rember the second I remeber that in the first ues the sleeper was basically a minion of beliar (tho hasishins in g3 also are and they are doing great) and yes the sleeper mentally enslave the leaders of the swamp but ot seems that the average novice os just a bit stoned by weed but have no demon in the hed... I belive that at the start of g2 you even meet an old pal near xardas tower and he seems to be fine... I say that old camps leader are even more mentally compromized as swamp eventually help you against the sleepwr wile old camp in theyr huge greed decide to make war vs other camp and try to prevent the destruction of the barrier ultimately helping the sleeper... So i am still conviced that swamp camp is the best and it' s leadership is not as mentally compromised as the old camp. You can say that new camp has the best leader as the water mages are the one whit the plan to destroy the barrier but first theu are not actiallu leader they just sit in cave asking mercenary to keep thugs at bay and second they are the dudes who placed the barrier in the first place...
One last thing... Old camps are prisoners of the kingdom, new camp are those same prisoner who decided to go away from old camp, wile swamp camp it seems that it was alredy there... Game is unclear abaut this tho
@@ReiP95 All Swamp Camp members become Seekers, so... things don't go very well for them in the sequel. As for the inhabitants of the Mine Valley - all of them are comprised of convinced criminals. Khorinis Mine Valley was always, in fact, a penal colony. The only sentient natives there were orcs.
Nice
w ile nauczyłeś się angielskiego?
To zależy. Niby angielskiego uczę się od 4 klasy podstawówki, więc teoretycznie to jest już ponad 16 lat nauki. Ale tak naprawdę takie poważne uczenie się jak mówić, pisać i się komunikować zacząłem gdzieś dopiero około 17 roku życia. Z czasem przyszły kontakty zagraniczne, mieszkanie w akademiku pełnym obcokrajowców, dyskusje na uniwersytecie po angielsku. O i tak to wyszło że teraz jest jak jest.
@@Farathriel ja próbuję się nauczyć ale niestety nie mam możliwości rozmawiać z nikim w tym języku, przez co przyswajanie wiedzy jest wolniejsze i mniej efektywne
@@fcavazza2552 poszukaj rozmówcy na interpals. To taka platforma społecznościowa do kontaktów międzynarodowych. No i też dobrym nawykiem jest mówić do siebie samego po angielsku i myśleć w tym języku. To pomaga oswoić się z pojęciami i ułatwia automatyzację wypowiedzi.
@@Farathriel dzięki za radę zrobię jak mówisz.
@@fcavazza2552 powodzenia!