Your videos are so great. My family has had property in North Louisiana since it was originally granted back in the 1860's, it's 50 miles southwest of the lowest dalton heartland range and 65 miles southwest of poverty point. Lots of natural water ways (de'loutre closest to house) we are always scouting for artifacts and I watch your videos to help me understand just how special these finds are. If you ever want to dig around Union Parish hit me up!! Great work!!!
Thank you for your time and consideration to us laymen. I got an A on the test. A very intriguing culture indeed. The holocene period would have been a very challenging time. Looking forward to your next installment. All the best Nathanael. Keep them coming.
The specialized point for burial: is that 12,000 years old too? I’m completely fascinated by the ritualistic nature of the pigments & grave goods in such early burials. Also would love to learn more about the oldest known cemetery of North America any time you wanted!
As a flint knapper I have always wondered if the dalton is an exhausted Clovis or possibly a tool made from a Clovis. Or was it a individual design by someone in a different area. Flint knappers also know that some lithic materials are much more difficult to work, and would this possibly have a impact on the dalton design. I love this projectile point and have been intrigued about them for years. Thanks for your interesting perspective.
Interesting. I just watched an archaeologist take apart a Milo video about the southwest quite effectively, though he himself was weak on some fine points. No, this presentation was way better.@@NathanaelFosaaen
@@NathanaelFosaaenThanks for the info. One hella channel,too🤘 The twist seems to be kinda rare,but not totally uncommon. The Texas Pandale point has a twist,we've only seen on lower Pecos rockshelters. Salute,amazing channel
I may have one of those early Dalton points… my grandparents lived on a farm in the Ozarks and moved to California in 1920. My grandfather on my father’s side farmed and had a collection of arrowheads and two spear points … he’d collected since his childhood … I now have those points … The one point in question is thin … about 3” long … light green … with a curved bottom and not fluted like a Clovis point …
Can you do a video showing the differences a little better between the Dalton adzes and other adzes. I always looked at adzes like a multi tool. As you said they are much more versatile than an axe.👍🇺🇸
I have been purchasing outstanding Ohio relics for several years. I don't believe that the Dalton culture relics are in Ohio. You discussion here is very good and taught me much!
Along the Kings river in both Missouri and Arkansas I have noticed that where head hunters find a concentration of Dalton points, they seem often to be in proximty to a place where Dolomite can be easily mined from the surface for use as a tool material. These clusters are found around 950 to 1100 ft. in elevation. However I do not know if this material was even used in their tool system. Just a ponder.
The optimization of resharpening of the heads seem to be an economic thing. The intrinsic value of the material must have increased during this period.
With the adze, are they finding charcoal on them because they were burning out logs for boats and scraping that burned zone out with the adze or some other use that embedded charcoal? Another good and interesting video! 👍
@@NathanaelFosaaen Thank you and I'm sorry. 😅 I re watched and you clearly said dugout canoes and the burned out log part was pretty clearly implied. Thanks again and I always enjoy your videos. 👍
I wonder if you have anything to say about Graham Cave in Missouri -- a dandy rock shelter in the area you showed, sitting above the Loutre River near the Missouri R. Being in such a prominent, accessible spot, it was excavated pretty long ago according to WP. Did the methods used then stand up to modern standards, or was important information lost? How much did earlier amateur activity muddle things? Is there anything left there to investigate, or is its potential long exhausted? Thanks!
You explain this very well. I appreciate the flow. Question. Is it possible for the beveling to have existed before the dalton tech? I have one beveled dalton that has fluting...I can see that aspect trickling down but is it possible the beveling tech was added to the clovis, as well?
I'd be curious to hear your thoughts on the north umberland clovis type culture. I've been attempting to fund information on the one sided fluted points, but doesn't appear that much information is available. From what little I have gathered, the culture is geographically limited to mostly Pennsylvania and slightly south of. I have a north umberland point recovered over 100 years ago from the Coshocton area of Ohio. Curious what the boundaries of this culture were, and how ling it lasted. Any other information would be interesting too.
@@NathanaelFosaaen In the context of your video, minute 2:30 “grade directly into each other” and 5:19 “where the haft element grades directly into the blade”
Thanks for screwing up notices on me YT! Never did any formal studies but have grabbed bits and pieces of academic precolonization history since before I graduated high school back in the late 80s. Would be dangerous if I had taken notes over the years. I've been wanting to look a little bit more into the genetic group migrations along with the tool and language/cultural groupings. It seems like every 20 years or so genetics or complimentary dating methods from a site end up bring human habitation back a few more thousand years.
i recently bought 6 cases of Dalton points and tools from the Olive Garden site and would like to know more about the site and where i can donate these to a local museum affiliated with the site .. anyone have any ideas who i should be contacting ?
How did you get to where you are now? I envy you to some degree. I would also like to be an archeologist. I find you are quite intelligent, as such I subscribed.
I got my BA in Anthropology with an archaeology concentration in 2011. I started doing field work immediately after that. Then I went to grad school after 7 or 8 years.
Given the importance of stone knapping as a technology, the many instances of decorative stone preferred selection for tools, and the fact of very ornate, enormously skilled aztec knapped artifacts, a ceremonial knapped object, like the knapped crystal dagger from iberia, is not sorprising.
Im glad i found this channel. Always wanted to know the people's before the "native American " . 12k years aho would be 10,000BC. So that would be right after the ice age? So hard to fathom that much time past.
When you say that these native Americans were the 1st into making cemeteries or the 1st cemetery. When these natives buried their dead was it from like just their camp or was it maybe from a region? You and I have corresponded before about an area in Bridgeport close to Russel Cave that was on an industrial site where over 200 bodies were buried it was anticipated that they were many more buried there but they only disturbed where they were adding a railroad spur as you know this area is rich in woodland Indian sites. Is it a theory that life was good enough in this region that the Indians used this area for just their camps over the years because of a milder climate, the Tennessee River being close, and more game that they didn't have to move often to find what they needed to live so they buried their dead there over the years? I am not sure about the estimate of the oldest set of bones found but I do know that they were buried on top of each other and covered with a mixture of soil and mussel shells, why did they add the shells was it because they had plenty of them? I have heard that they did this to help to deter animals from digging them up. Could the Indians at Russel Cave preceded this tribe? What kind of estimate have archaeologist have of the Indians that lived along the Tennessee River I know from Moccasin Bend to Bridgeport Alabama, the amount had to be staggering over time, and you can't leave out a well known cave called Nickajack Cave that was thought to have been a meeting place for a lot of the tribes in this area it is now flooded but was heavily excavated before TVA dammed the river but it was thought that a staggering amount of relics was flooded. Then you have what's called shell mound that's a stones throw from Nickajack Cave it was and still is very rich in Indian artifacts that is protected by TVA, thanks for the videos that you post about these remarkable people they never get the respect for shaping North America and we are able to learn from them from great archaeologist like you.
I hear about Dalton points a lot but knew very little about them. Thank you!
Dalton is basically blue-collar clovis.
@@NathanaelFosaaen I'm probably going to steal that description in a future episode someday.
Thank You Nathanael, your videos are Excellent and very informative. I hope to watch them all, subscribed and Liked.
Your videos are so great. My family has had property in North Louisiana since it was originally granted back in the 1860's, it's 50 miles southwest of the lowest dalton heartland range and 65 miles southwest of poverty point. Lots of natural water ways (de'loutre closest to house) we are always scouting for artifacts and I watch your videos to help me understand just how special these finds are. If you ever want to dig around Union Parish hit me up!! Great work!!!
Your videos are always worth my time. Thank you.
Thank you for your time and consideration to us laymen. I got an A on the test. A very intriguing culture indeed. The holocene period would have been a very challenging time. Looking forward to your next installment. All the best Nathanael. Keep them coming.
Another fascinating segment. Thank you.
The specialized point for burial: is that 12,000 years old too? I’m completely fascinated by the ritualistic nature of the pigments & grave goods in such early burials. Also would love to learn more about the oldest known cemetery of North America any time you wanted!
Always my favourite archaeology channel. Thank you Nathanael.
As a flint knapper I have always wondered if the dalton is an exhausted Clovis or possibly a tool made from a Clovis. Or was it a individual design by someone in a different area. Flint knappers also know that some lithic materials are much more difficult to work, and would this possibly have a impact on the dalton design. I love this projectile point and have been intrigued about them for years. Thanks for your interesting perspective.
Great explanation. Easy to understand. Thanks
Excellent. You are so much better at this than the vast majority of UA-camrs trying to present archaeological subjects. What a relief!
If you're looking for more, I endorse Stefan Milo' channel, as well as Ancient Americas and Miniminuteman.
Interesting. I just watched an archaeologist take apart a Milo video about the southwest quite effectively, though he himself was weak on some fine points. No, this presentation was way better.@@NathanaelFosaaen
@@NathanaelFosaaenThanks for the info. One hella channel,too🤘 The twist seems to be kinda rare,but not totally uncommon. The Texas Pandale point has a twist,we've only seen on lower Pecos rockshelters. Salute,amazing channel
thanks for your great videos...please keep them coming
I see the Sloan site almost every day. It is the only big hump left out that way. They have leveled all the others.
I didn’t know archeologists were so punk rock. I love the look man. Real Strand Of Oaks
good info ---keep em coming
I may have one of those early Dalton points… my grandparents lived on a farm in the Ozarks and moved to California in 1920. My grandfather on my father’s side farmed and had a collection of arrowheads and two spear points … he’d collected since his childhood … I now have those points …
The one point in question is thin … about 3” long … light green … with a curved bottom and not fluted like a Clovis point …
Can you do a video showing the differences a little better between the Dalton adzes and other adzes. I always looked at adzes like a multi tool. As you said they are much more versatile than an axe.👍🇺🇸
I have been purchasing outstanding Ohio relics for several years. I don't believe that the Dalton culture relics are in Ohio. You discussion here is very good and taught me much!
Lithic tech is amazing. I can't even begin to imagine the number of self cuts that were caused during the working phase. Not many band-aids available.
If there were old blind Indians I'd bet they were flint knappers.
Great as always.
Along the Kings river in both Missouri and Arkansas I have noticed that where head hunters find a concentration of Dalton points, they seem often to be in proximty to a place where Dolomite can be easily mined from the surface for use as a tool material. These clusters are found around 950 to 1100 ft. in elevation. However I do not know if this material was even used in their tool system. Just a ponder.
The optimization of resharpening of the heads seem to be an economic thing. The intrinsic value of the material must have increased during this period.
With the adze, are they finding charcoal on them because they were burning out logs for boats and scraping that burned zone out with the adze or some other use that embedded charcoal? Another good and interesting video! 👍
Yeah, that's exactly right.
@@NathanaelFosaaen Thank you and I'm sorry. 😅 I re watched and you clearly said dugout canoes and the burned out log part was pretty clearly implied. Thanks again and I always enjoy your videos. 👍
I wonder if you have anything to say about Graham Cave in Missouri -- a dandy rock shelter in the area you showed, sitting above the Loutre River near the Missouri R. Being in such a prominent, accessible spot, it was excavated pretty long ago according to WP. Did the methods used then stand up to modern standards, or was important information lost? How much did earlier amateur activity muddle things? Is there anything left there to investigate, or is its potential long exhausted? Thanks!
You explain this very well. I appreciate the flow. Question. Is it possible for the beveling to have existed before the dalton tech? I have one beveled dalton that has fluting...I can see that aspect trickling down but is it possible the beveling tech was added to the clovis, as well?
Thanks Nathan for the great content. WPS
I'd be curious to hear your thoughts on the north umberland clovis type culture. I've been attempting to fund information on the one sided fluted points, but doesn't appear that much information is available. From what little I have gathered, the culture is geographically limited to mostly Pennsylvania and slightly south of. I have a north umberland point recovered over 100 years ago from the Coshocton area of Ohio. Curious what the boundaries of this culture were, and how ling it lasted. Any other information would be interesting too.
So would the people who lived at the Koster Site in Illinois be related to the Dalton Culture?
Hi, I loved your video. I´d like to ask you for the meaning of the verb "grade" in Archaeology, because I'm not a native English speaker. Thank you
In what context?
@@NathanaelFosaaen In the context of your video, minute 2:30 “grade directly into each other” and 5:19 “where the haft element grades directly into the blade”
@@lucasorsinigutierrez4959 ah! That means there is a smooth, gradual transition between two things without a clearly defined separation.
@@NathanaelFosaaen Thank you so much!
Thanks for screwing up notices on me YT!
Never did any formal studies but have grabbed bits and pieces of academic precolonization history since before I graduated high school back in the late 80s. Would be dangerous if I had taken notes over the years.
I've been wanting to look a little bit more into the genetic group migrations along with the tool and language/cultural groupings. It seems like every 20 years or so genetics or complimentary dating methods from a site end up bring human habitation back a few more thousand years.
We have a indian burial mound in south east missouri in a town called honersville mo i apways wondered who built it have you ever heard of it?
i recently bought 6 cases of Dalton points and tools from the Olive Garden site and would like to know more about the site and where i can donate these to a local museum affiliated with the site .. anyone have any ideas who i should be contacting ?
Nice, i live in this area
How did you get to where you are now? I envy you to some degree. I would also like to be an archeologist. I find you are quite intelligent, as such I subscribed.
I got my BA in Anthropology with an archaeology concentration in 2011. I started doing field work immediately after that. Then I went to grad school after 7 or 8 years.
Given the importance of stone knapping as a technology, the many instances of decorative stone preferred selection for tools, and the fact of very ornate, enormously skilled aztec knapped artifacts, a ceremonial knapped object, like the knapped crystal dagger from iberia, is not sorprising.
Im glad i found this channel. Always wanted to know the people's before the "native American " . 12k years aho would be 10,000BC. So that would be right after the ice age? So hard to fathom that much time past.
These people aren't before the native americans. They're the ancestors of the native americans.
i would like to know how a tree is cut down and processed with these adzs
@10:27 it's a dance blade
Do you think the Rio Grande River was navigated by dug out canoes ?
Now, even more lethal! But, wait... there's more!
Olive branch site.
Most data you will find on dalton occupation ASAA
When you say that these native Americans were the 1st into making cemeteries or the 1st cemetery. When these natives buried their dead was it from like just their camp or was it maybe from a region? You and I have corresponded before about an area in Bridgeport close to Russel Cave that was on an industrial site where over 200 bodies were buried it was anticipated that they were many more buried there but they only disturbed where they were adding a railroad spur as you know this area is rich in woodland Indian sites. Is it a theory that life was good enough in this region that the Indians used this area for just their camps over the years because of a milder climate, the Tennessee River being close, and more game that they didn't have to move often to find what they needed to live so they buried their dead there over the years? I am not sure about the estimate of the oldest set of bones found but I do know that they were buried on top of each other and covered with a mixture of soil and mussel shells, why did they add the shells was it because they had plenty of them? I have heard that they did this to help to deter animals from digging them up. Could the Indians at Russel Cave preceded this tribe? What kind of estimate have archaeologist have of the Indians that lived along the Tennessee River I know from Moccasin Bend to Bridgeport Alabama, the amount had to be staggering over time, and you can't leave out a well known cave called Nickajack Cave that was thought to have been a meeting place for a lot of the tribes in this area it is now flooded but was heavily excavated before TVA dammed the river but it was thought that a staggering amount of relics was flooded. Then you have what's called shell mound that's a stones throw from Nickajack Cave it was and still is very rich in Indian artifacts that is protected by TVA, thanks for the videos that you post about these remarkable people they never get the respect for shaping North America and we are able to learn from them from great archaeologist like you.
Miigwetch!
You just chopped a rock and killed an animal. Like daddy taught you.
Again, I like much of your education, but dads taught kids, even into 1950s. Race doesnt change this.