When Comic Book Movies Stray Too Far From The Source Material
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- Опубліковано 8 чер 2024
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Hyper Real Batman: 4:56 - Розваги
In a certain way, Reeves' Batman is kind of a more refined version of Aronofsky's
I was just about too say everything that Aronofsky's wanted for his Batman I 100% see in The Batman.
Heck maybe year one of that Batman was Aronofsky's vision
I personally really enjoyed the Year One script and wished it was made. It basically was like if you put together Joker's gritty realism tone, inspired by gritty 70s movies, would've been R rated, and Joaquin Phoenix was the director's casting choice. And The Batman's homemade suit, a muscle car, a Batcave that was an abandoned subway station, a ring from his father and and a Bruce Wayne who grows to become a traditional Bruce Wayne at the end. (I don't even think Reeves's Bruce didn't even travel around the world to become Batman.) And those two movies changed a lot from the comics and were very good, and the script has gained more respect by new people discovering probably because of those two movies. But WB tried to interfere like making the Batmobile look more toy like wanting Freddie Prince Jr. as Batman. While I am proud we have the Nolan trilogy, I am very heartbroken this didn't get made.
In a certain point of view, Aronofsky's vision of Batman would've worked for Joaquin Phoenix's Joker.
3:35 I'd love to see a rated r body horror fly type movie based on the Spider-Man villains the lizard or vermin
I agree
Carnage also could have body horror potential
Sandman too
I actually really would have wanted Aronofsky’s Batman. Wouldve been so cool. Ironic how this hyper realistic r-rated gritty comic book movie that strays away from the source material and stands on its own two feet with the apparent Taxi Driver overtones basically became the Joker movie😂
I've been fascinated with Aronofsky's pitch ever since i read about it, and it's pretty funny how it more or less got separated into both Joker and The Batman as the years went by
I'd like to see someone make a full length fan animation adapting Aronofsky's Batman script... that and James Cameron's unmade Spider-man movie
Aronofsky's Batman is literally just Rorschach, lol.
I find it funny the Spider-Man film eventually fell to another horror movie director, only it's clear this one was more familiar with the character
I think the hyper realistic batman idea would work really well for a watchmen universe movie like a rorschach or a nite owl movie, I really like the idea though
I feel this should get revived as a comic or an animated film.
I think a monstrous Spider-Man could be very interesting, IF it were an alternate universe, like what if on Earth 69420 or whatever, when he was bitten, he became far more spider than man? What if he couldn't have any semblance of a normal life? (Have him keep his mind/humanity) and have him still never kill anyone, so he refuses to become a true monster, have him use fear tactics on criminals kinda like Batman. I just think there is a lot of angst potential. But I do think he would absolutely need a friend to keep him from going insane.
I like this it would be so cool to see man spider on a movie
Really like deep dive videos like this, good video man
That version of Batman I honestly find far more interesting than the traditional comic book iteration.
I kinda like a Batman who is self made without the money bin.
Canon films didn't know who Spider-Man was? What rock were they living under?
And how do they know he’s real name but not knowing he’s a comic book superhero? Did they did any research before they start Even at concept stage? I mean besides he’s real name but they probably figured out much later on.
i would've watched that batman movie
the spider-man one on the other hand isn't my cup of tea
ngl the batman story would work a lot as a alternative universe's Batman, a multiverse where Bruce lost his fortune and becomes a street level vigilante? Sign me up! But not as a main movie, this should be first a comic for this different universe lol
in the end we pretty much got aronofsky's idea with The Batman
2:38 tobe hooper could have made a awesome wolverine movie
I feel like Aronofsky’s would have been a cool idea. While it might feel like too much for some I think it would be a good interpretation for film or tv.
I could see it as Bruce Wayne being “reduced” to a local celebrity, he lives in a impoverished area of Gotham but everyone knows of the former Wayne enterprises.
I could see the bat-cave being an abandoned property or something(someone mentioned an abandoned subway station, TMNT vibes) but I was thinking almost like an abandoned basement to an apartment or town house.
Building off of this, I like the Homebrew-Mcguyver-DIY aspect of such a Batman. He isn’t like some dude who has access to the world but a resourceful and inventive.
His bat-cave would be like a home brew laboratory/work desk. It would be were he crafts and prepares his activities. Following that notion the bat computer would be a McGuyver of all kinds of various computer and technology parts.
In this setting Batman like in the reeves film would have a stronger emphasis on detective work. He would use the resources within his batcave for his detective work like complying and analyzing evidence.
James Wan, David F. Sandberg, and Sam Raimi are all horror directors that made great superhero flicks. I'm sure Tobe could've made a kickass spiderman movie.
Unfortunately, this will never happen. First you would have acquire rights from either artist family or personal property and then you would have to transfer their identity to film. And realize that you. Might have to make excuses for the changes or adaptation for Hollywood.
Aronofsky's Batman is what The Batman should've been, great concept.
You didn’t like The Batman?
@@Vendaxel No it was a good film, but it's far from being the masterpiece they announced. It's just a classic Batman story, an excellent story, but it's déjà vu.
Arronosky's Batman on the other hand is something completely new, a total reinvention of the character, he twisted the Dark Knight mythology to offer something unique.
@@JoeMama1001. yea I can see what you mean
@@JoeMama1001. That’s a fair assessment. That’s kinda cool that you didn’t just hate on The Batman, but instead made a valid point. I respect that.
I also would have loved to see Batman: Year One! Oh my god, what a great concept! The Batman’s cool and all, but like you said, it isn’t nearly as unique as this take would have been. Which, if you think about it, that means this movie may eventually get made. If the director pitches it again in maybe a decade or so, after The Batman movies have run their course, the studio execs may be ready for this new take. Who knows.
@@precoius We can only hope for the best.
how the heck do you buy the rights for spider-man without knowing who spider-man even is. Like how the heck does that work?
And how do you know he’s real name but knowing he’s a comic book superhero?
And how do you know he’s real name but knowing he’s a comic book superhero?
Lol you described a lot of Modern day reboots in the beginning
It would actually be really funny if that Spiderman movie happened, considering that’s legit Kamen rider Ichigo’s plot, who was inspired by the Japanese Spiderman, who was the second live action version of Spiderman.
Can you do a video on the cancelled rated r Black Widow movie
Maybe, there’s already an amazing in detail video about it however.
Ok then maybe a video on cancelled X-Men movie scripts like Andrew Kevin Walker's X-Men script I think there concept arts of the characters as well thank you for making this video
That Batman story sounds great
1:24
Something felt weird for me until i paused the video lol
1:25 hold up
The Year One script is farely faithful to Batman tbh, it's really hardcore but Batman is still a guy out to save his city who doesn't kill.
Yeah this feels unique but true to the character as every adaptation should be.
Matt Reeves should’ve played Commisioner Gordon
Love your channel
My feelings on Aronofsky's Batman are similar to Fincher's Spider-Man - I wouldn't want them *instead* of Batman Begins or Spider-Man 2002, but I would definitely like to pop into that alternate universe and give them a watch
That Batman movie would’ve slapped ngl
Damn I would have loved to see that Batman movie it’s always interesting to see peoples takes on theses characters
3:45 What film did you get the footage of the spider body horror sequences from?
Earth vs. the Spider (2001)
8:24 - 8:56
… that sounds exactly like Batman
Tbh the Spider-Man movie sounds fun af 😂
its so weird that Spider-Man has had so many directors and potential directors that made their names with horror. Hooper, Raimi, Watts, its kinda strange.
It kinda makes sense. Spider-Man is kinda a horror story when you really think about it
Interesting video.
Thank Goodness Neither of These Were Ever Made.
I don't think the batman one was as bad, maybe because it was next to the spider-man one.
I would have LOVED to see Tobe Hooper’s Spider-Man. That sounds fantastic :D
Would love to see this Batman 1990’s take
idk I feel like that Batman would be REALLY interesting
i would like to see a tv show of Aronofsky
3:44 what movie was that from?
Can someone explain to me that "Black Spider-Man" movie poster that was shown in the video? Lol
That batman could’ve been really cool
Man I wish that Batman movie could have been made
1:24 wtf is that black spider-man poster
Are you living in a cave somewhere? It's the greatest Spiderman/superhero film ever made. After Martin Scorsese saw it he said he wanted to quit making movies because he knew he couldn't be on the same level
@@davidsolimene5367 hmm I lost my virginity after I saw that masterpiece.
I don’t think we’ve ever had a Batman movie that felt like the comics (unlike most other characters), so I think that is something we need to get before we start straying as far away from the source material as the Year One script.
Or how about we stop making more goddamn batman movies once Reeves is done with his version
@@nalday2534 lol why ?
I mean if it ain't broke don't fix it but to each their own.
@@kwayneboy1524 because there are other characters that exist in DC?
@@nalday2534 why not just do both ?
Dude that fuckin year one movie woulda been dope
Music?
1:25 don't remember that one.
Ight but what's playing at 3:45
3:38 So Spiderman 2099?
3:42
Marvel comics basically became a hit compared to DC because of the combination of horror elements IN comics at the time and "soap opera".
To have a horror movie director and not know what to do with them in live action adapting a comic shows the lack of knowledge of the subject, FIRST of all!
SECOND of all, uh...Spiderman transforming as described could actually work!
Exhibit A: "Manspider" in the "Neogenic Nightmare" arc in the '90s Spiderman animated series.
How amazing would it be in some alternate timeline where the Spiderman horror movie is adapted as described in the video but ended up being closer to the animated series and some people's reaction would be the typical criticism of "Hollywood Ending"!
You know, like back then with Mary Jane and the bridge scene in the 2002 movie where she lives.
Because "SPOILER" Spiderman transform's back to his human form...
(Sort of non spoilers but there's a sort of parallel between the series and both '80s The Fly movies that would apply)
Also, Batman living among criminals?
That's IN Batman Begins, before Bruce is approached by the League Of Shadows...guy...I haven't seen it in years.
Edit) Btw when Spiderman's webbing didn't work in Spiderman 2 (2004) that also happened in TAS before SM transformed.
Only difference was in TAS it was SM wall crawling ability that stopped working.
So Maguire's SM with the wrist web thing already "has a toe" in my "Imaginary Manspider movie".
Also "giant mechanical spider" would finally be done right with Spider slayer...as shown in TAS! *JAZZ HANDS*
bruh ywah
I think Aronofsky batman would have been great
it's funny. You say insult to the character's legacy, but there are hundreds of comics with spider man that go this very route, i see nothing wrong with this
If it happened now there wouldn't be anything wrong but as a first big spiderman movieits terrible since it doesn't capture what spiderman truly is for the public
These films were made to help make these characters a household name but now everybody knows who they are so let's make that Man-Spider movie.
I disagree with your assement that completely altering the source material's themes is bad, or that a work can't replace the original - Kubrick's The Shining is infinitely better than the original book, and almost ALL of Shakespeares' plays are adaptations, and they're so good that nobody even remembers the original works.
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Sometimes the adaptation does better than the original. The movie adaptation of the Watchman made Rorschach more violent and the Boys show was better than the comic. The Boys comic was just about edge lords in leather jackets killing superheroes for shits and giggles and apparently every superhero was evil no matter what. The show makes the Boys human and gave superheroes a spectrum.
Making him more violent was the downfall
@@lolxd3337 yeah I mean ending was lame didn't people say this was made by a writer this dude didn't try.