I sold three pieces of equipment to get one of these eq’s. And I’m so glad I did. This eq is absolutely amazing. I use it with my bettermaker equipment and they just work so well together. The 28khz adds an incredible air . The tubes are off the chain. Everything about this eq is amazing. And to top it all off. Wes Audio are an incredible company to deal with 😊
I had one of the first ones sold in Canada. Can not say enough good things about this eq. Amazing work by WesAudio. The fact that you have both 5db and 15db modes means you get the "mastering" and "mix" version in one unit.
Workflow wise, this unit fulfills needs I didn’t know i have. Another outstanding EQ in the same price range, consisting a completely different kind of traits i really consider is the Goly Gravity’s Rainbow. ❤
Yeah it's amazing. Cannot live without it since I got my first one, and now there are already three units here. It is NOT the best EQ one could imagine for every purpose, but the controlling software makes it my Go-To-EQ.
The smile on your face when you cranked the high band... Easily worth $6k for a mastering EQ with essentially 2 signal paths & recall. Paired with the NGT Comp? Good night Louise.
Hi, there's no doubt that you can test fantastic gear. But I have one big regret: all your tests are pretty much destroyed by youtube's audio compression algorithm. Could I dream that one day you'll give us access to the HD audio from your tests (ie from a public Google drive) ? Bye and thank you for sharing your passion with us
@@Projacked1true but some differences are so subtle that a youtube video doesn't do it justice. maybe that just means its not even a significant enough change 🤷♂️
It's CD quality streaming, so change is inevitable. Your question to Wytse was the right question imo, direct comparing/ listening of the original file. Even if I play YT in HQ, and then switch to the wav.-file directtly? YT sucks lol. The presence gets lost significantly, It sounds more fuzzy.
Awesome. A couple of things I didn't know after a huge studio upgrade and this being one of them (along with 3 of their 500 series and LunchBox... ALL RECALLABLE!). I already loved it, but now... Iron Pad!
‘And the dangerous things with these more modern type of analogue equipment with recall, type of equipment that just works so much easier… Is that you start to prefer it over equipment that probably is better, or sounds better, it’s a really dangerous thing’… Go on then, what sounds better?
Lot of features.... been looking @ the SPL PQ EQ for same purpose but both are really different! I know that David from MIX BUS uses WES AUDIO :) Yes the RECALL w/' this GEAR is so helpful compare to Printing or taking PICS /Vids for Setting...etc is lots of work of all the GEAR in a MIX/MASTER
I have been obsessing over this eq since its release. Just can’t afford it, but every night I contemplate selling half my gear and then snap back to reality 😭 someday 😂❤
When you master ten songs, how can you change the settings from song to song in real-time? Is it a stop-and-go process to change the song presets saved?
@ I'm not sure how digitally controlled analog functions when it comes to multiple instances. I assume you only get one that sits on one track. If you move in the timeline from track to track, you would need ten units or stop-and-go to move the plug to the next track. Yes, you can have presets for each song, but you can't run it in real time or even bounce. It's not the ideal way to master an album.
@onemic-theminimalist How many tracks do you have when you're mastering? AFAIK, unless you're handling immersive sound, mastering is a two-track process. How many instances would you need in that scenario.
Hello everything is fine? I hope so. Im a subscriber for many years and even if its off topic I would like to ask you something. Is about the Avalon VT 737SP cause this issue maybe appears on other gear that you maybe know...and I have one Avalon 737, but I have a problem and I don't know if it has happened to you... It works well, but when the artist stops singing for 2 or 3 minutes and then starts talking again to the microphone I notice a slight distortion and the gain is very low to the point that I have to ask the artist to shout on the mic and then it goes back to normal and I can record again. In other words, the gain is lost a little and the sound remains distant and distorted until either me or the artist sends a small scream into the microphone again. Has this ever happened to you ? Maybe with your knowdlege you can help me ...Thank you very much and a big hug...
As far I know, Wes Audio are just 2 guys. That means that any potential issue with firmware update in da future is really really high, I would not risk so much money at this point. Tons of option to use this money for something else / hardcore / sweet / analog ...
Seriously? Becuase of seeing pictures of only 2 guys at their web page about? And you really believe it would be possible for only 2 guys to provide such advanced hardware, several models over the world in consistant volumes? LOL
@@Piotre I don't know anything about any picture.I contact them for some firmware update for macOS if I good remember...and I know somebody who know them. Well, it was some time ago....maybe something change since than...but I am already done with another company with 3 guys only from APS studio monitor company which are not able to fix my set of Aeon 2 with sub for around 5k euro...never ever pro studio gear from small boutique company...this is my opinion and this is the way I take care my hard safe money... :) This don't has nothing to do with quality of product to be clear...
@@Samurabe well, indeed you had a bad experience and I could understand more your fears about provided support from small companies. It was good point but unfortunately big companies with huge names don't grant anything either. I was reaching BAE and was ignored when tried to get at least consultation about channel strip of their kind of sub brand UK Sound.
@@Piotre well, I prefer to spend 6000 euro for Manley eq than for something what looks like Manley clon from company which actually building own reputation on building clones of existing iconic gear....6000 euro its a lot of money...
@@Samurabe I get it. But still I do appreciate workflow improvements while keeping high sound quality ;-P Maybe I am too lazy for 'analog workflow' :D And maybe my lower skills and confidence prefer that something externally can grant exact the same settings when needed every single day not relying only on my hearing or seeing (trying to set knobs using pictures) :D But well maybe after some years I will agree with you ;) or not again ;-P We will see...
Let me help you out with the downsides: It costs ~6000€, it takes away space, it consumes far more electricity than a plugin, since it's hardware, it will require maintenance at some point, it doesn't have a dynamic EQ function, it's limited to stepped values, you can't use it on multiple scources at the same time, there is not "dry/wet knob" and of course you need to dust it. I actually liked it's sound, but it's still just an EQ with the option for tube saturation. All the upsides it has compared to other analog EQs are very common and to be expected from plugins. PS: This is not a hate-post. This is just a post offering you a different perspective on how great and useful it actually is(n't) compared to other workflows.
Wait.... A digital controlled Analog EQ, fine, but how are they doing Band solo'n??? I'm not believing that... That would mean each band would need to be crossed-over like a multiband Comp, But you would not have that in a analog EQ due to phase issues it would introduce. I want an explanation.
@@mikikus222 that's not correct. From the Sonimus website: EQ Basic Functioning The first invented equalizers were analog electronic circuits. These pieces of gear use resistors, capacitors, and inductors to process the audio. The result is a very small delay at specific frequencies that we call phase shift. The equalizer combines the phase-shifted signal with the original signal, changing the frequency response of the audio by boosting or cutting those specific frequencies and creating the EQ curves that we are familiar with today. The phase shift can produce artifacts in the audio. EQ designers try to minimize those artifacts, making them only audible in specific situations. This is why most equalizers are typically referred to as minimum phase equalizers. The electronic design of the equalizer specifies at what frequency the phase shift occurs, while the knob controls the blend between the original and phase-shifted signal - very much like the feedback control on a tape recorder-based delay.
Those are analog filters (HPF & LPF) with quite a lot of dynamic switching to support whole spectrum. So It sets the analog filters for each frequency spectrum to be in the middle between the two. Everything is done in the analog world, it works also without plug-in connected.
the best things in life are free,,, i dont mean free plugins,,, its all about levels ,, levels can make or break a track, changing the dynamics between instruments can bring or take away, like ingredients in a soup, too much or too little alters the taste dramatically. best of all, we already have it, just need to develope it, and enjoy.
Great to see you enjoying this job! To have purpose and satisfaction, you can be grateful for that. Nice unit. I have to see how my crypto investments go, otherwise I’m still looking at Empress👍🏼
The tubes and circuits that give an actual warmth, as well as the ability to push them without getting harsh distortion, pretty much all distortion with great analog equipment sounds good, us in the digital world have to worry about (bad) clipping
FYI The tubes don’t color sound, it’s the transformers mainly. In digital algorithms are changing the sound, you’re changing ones and zeros. In analog your changing actual electrical current which has infinite resolution and other properties.
Sounds good but the faceplate/design looks horrible. Why not make it actually look like a analog piece of gear that is digitally controlled rather than what they did which is that it looks digital but sounds analog but is digital control. Silly.
Wat ik nooit zo goed begrijp is dat je in dit soort reviews (heel vaak) bron materiaal gebruikt dat al gemasterd is. Kun je niet beter een pre-master gebruiken als voorbeeld?
Premaster bronmateriaal dat rechtenvrij is, is heeel moeilijk te krijgen... Echt jammer, maar hier is de muziekindustrie gewoon niet chill om, 10 seconden aan beschermde muziek in de video, en ik heb al een strike...
I sold three pieces of equipment to get one of these eq’s. And I’m so glad I did. This eq is absolutely amazing. I use it with my bettermaker equipment and they just work so well together. The 28khz adds an incredible air . The tubes are off the chain. Everything about this eq is amazing. And to top it all off. Wes Audio are an incredible company to deal with 😊
Go on buy it. My Gainlab Empress was one of the pieces of equipment I sold because this thing knocked it out of the park 😊
28khz isn't even audible for humans?
@@Regw2520 In this video he explains that 28khz adds some information in “audible” range which adds what is known as “air” which is audible
@@Regw2520i think it's a shelf that reaches into the audible spectrum
This thing is 10k in Australia. Gainlab Empress is also a tube EQ and holds its own !
I had one of the first ones sold in Canada. Can not say enough good things about this eq. Amazing work by WesAudio. The fact that you have both 5db and 15db modes means you get the "mastering" and "mix" version in one unit.
Really happy you chose some acoustic jazz to test the eq 👏👏👏
True!
Workflow wise, this unit fulfills needs I didn’t know i have. Another outstanding EQ in the same price range, consisting a completely different kind of traits i really consider is the Goly Gravity’s Rainbow. ❤
Yeah it's amazing. Cannot live without it since I got my first one, and now there are already three units here. It is NOT the best EQ one could imagine for every purpose, but the controlling software makes it my Go-To-EQ.
Love Mine! I Have to admit, the most versatile analog eq ever.
The smile on your face when you cranked the high band... Easily worth $6k for a mastering EQ with essentially 2 signal paths & recall. Paired with the NGT Comp? Good night Louise.
I got it two months ago and love it very much because of its special tube vibes. Nothing compares to this monster of an EQ.
Hi, there's no doubt that you can test fantastic gear.
But I have one big regret: all your tests are pretty much destroyed by youtube's audio compression algorithm.
Could I dream that one day you'll give us access to the HD audio from your tests (ie from a public Google drive) ?
Bye and thank you for sharing your passion with us
The algorithm shouldn't be an issue , if the sound quality is poop in 44.1 it's not UA-cam.
@@Projacked1true but some differences are so subtle that a youtube video doesn't do it justice. maybe that just means its not even a significant enough change 🤷♂️
It's CD quality streaming, so change is inevitable. Your question to Wytse was the right question imo, direct comparing/ listening of the original file. Even if I play YT in HQ, and then switch to the wav.-file directtly?
YT sucks lol. The presence gets lost significantly, It sounds more fuzzy.
UA-cam audio is excellent and even pristine in HD mode. With hardware devices like Apple TV, youtube delivers surround.
@@pedrodepacas4335 until you do a comparison. Not that great.
”When you think about it, it’s really cheap” is the exact argument i use when i have severe GAS and are trying to convince my better half. 😂🎉
This is so true
Awesome. A couple of things I didn't know after a huge studio upgrade and this being one of them (along with 3 of their 500 series and LunchBox... ALL RECALLABLE!). I already loved it, but now... Iron Pad!
‘And the dangerous things with these more modern type of analogue equipment with recall, type of equipment that just works so much easier… Is that you start to prefer it over equipment that probably is better, or sounds better, it’s a really dangerous thing’…
Go on then, what sounds better?
Yeah, this sounds fantastic. Not really much else to say. Great demo with good music selection.
It would be nice to hear how this sounds compared to the exact same curve settings on something like Pro-Q3 or Kirchoff EQ.
Exactly the same
I thought the same
Have you tried?
im calling vintage king monday !!! Gonna get one thanks bro
So incredibly smooth on delicate material.
I’ve had one for a few months. It really is incredible
Hi! Are you still loving the WesAudio NGTubeEQ?. I planing to buy one in some months. Best/Mathias
such a flipping great idea for this day and age of mixing/master/engineering. very cool!
you always demo with the best musics
I noticed you're not throwing the gear around anymore that you're testing, since someone commented on it. I must say, I like it!
Lot of features.... been looking @ the SPL PQ EQ for same purpose but both are really different! I know that David from MIX BUS uses WES AUDIO :) Yes the RECALL w/' this GEAR is so helpful compare to Printing or taking PICS /Vids for Setting...etc is lots of work of all the GEAR in a MIX/MASTER
Tak!
Better yet, with the way you alternate between bell and shelf filters, you can indeed keep pushing!
love the idea of recallable audio gear!
Wow. The top end is beautiful!!!
I bought one of these a few months ago and LOVE it!
Great review. Would be interesting to shoot one of these out against my Massive Passive at some point.
very smooth!!! love their gear.
LOVE WesAudio! I have a DIONE and it lives on my stereo bus. Looking into the MIMAS now. Pretty sure it will be my last purchase.
I have been obsessing over this eq since its release. Just can’t afford it, but every night I contemplate selling half my gear and then snap back to reality 😭 someday 😂❤
Get a loan bro lolol
When you master ten songs, how can you change the settings from song to song in real-time? Is it a stop-and-go process to change the song presets saved?
Presets and/or basic automation, no?
@ I'm not sure how digitally controlled analog functions when it comes to multiple instances. I assume you only get one that sits on one track. If you move in the timeline from track to track, you would need ten units or stop-and-go to move the plug to the next track. Yes, you can have presets for each song, but you can't run it in real time or even bounce. It's not the ideal way to master an album.
@onemic-theminimalist How many tracks do you have when you're mastering? AFAIK, unless you're handling immersive sound, mastering is a two-track process. How many instances would you need in that scenario.
reminds me of the knif soma but with a bunch of extra features. REALLY nice sound $$$$
They better give it to you for free plus a discount of future products, because of your great review 😃
Can you control it from console 1 or one of the SSL controllers?
I reaaaaally want the new WesAudio 500 series stereo EQ
Wow great examples. This thing is great!!!! I would get 4 of them😂
Is this what the Brainworx bx_digital V3 is based on?
Great video again.. as always . Thank you :-)
i was just thinking about analog eq yesterday
Protect Poland at all costs
From what?
Great review ❤
Sounds decent looks like some stuff from the new black box eq … saturating eqs seem to be the new thing in the community
I’ve seen several people comment about this but when I google it I can’t find anything. What is this black box EQ you speak of?
You’re gonna have to send the boxes back as soon as theyre delivered. They know exactly what they’re doing 😂
Reminds me of the Chandler mastering eq with extras….
Try the Weiss eq analog version
This is so good
nice sounding unit
Reasumując. Uczciwy człowiek, uczciwie zarabia kilkadziesiąt milionów i idzie zrobić interes z bandziorami a oni go oszukują! Genialne.
How is it better than a Tegler RC Creme?
Oooof that is super-sweet
Are you sure it's not "Third" harmonic distortion? (the knob THD)
Hello everything is fine? I hope so. Im a subscriber for many years and even if its off topic I would like to ask you something. Is about the Avalon VT 737SP cause this issue maybe appears on other gear that you maybe know...and I have one Avalon 737, but I have a problem and I don't know if it has happened to you... It works well, but when the artist stops singing for 2 or 3 minutes and then starts talking again to the microphone I notice a slight distortion and the gain is very low to the point that I have to ask the artist to shout on the mic and then it goes back to normal and I can record again. In other words, the gain is lost a little and the sound remains distant and distorted until either me or the artist sends a small scream into the microphone again. Has this ever happened to you ? Maybe with your knowdlege you can help me ...Thank you very much and a big hug...
Hello, yes, everything is fine. This has never happened to me no. My Avalon VT 737SP works flawlessly.
@@balisaani Thanks a lot... i will send to a technician. Well, trying to find a good one. :)
As far I know, Wes Audio are just 2 guys. That means that any potential issue with firmware update in da future is really really high, I would not risk so much money at this point. Tons of option to use this money for something else / hardcore / sweet / analog ...
Seriously? Becuase of seeing pictures of only 2 guys at their web page about? And you really believe it would be possible for only 2 guys to provide such advanced hardware, several models over the world in consistant volumes? LOL
@@Piotre I don't know anything about any picture.I contact them for some firmware update for macOS if I good remember...and I know somebody who know them. Well, it was some time ago....maybe something change since than...but I am already done with another company with 3 guys only from APS studio monitor company which are not able to fix my set of Aeon 2 with sub for around 5k euro...never ever pro studio gear from small boutique company...this is my opinion and this is the way I take care my hard safe money... :) This don't has nothing to do with quality of product to be clear...
@@Samurabe well, indeed you had a bad experience and I could understand more your fears about provided support from small companies. It was good point but unfortunately big companies with huge names don't grant anything either. I was reaching BAE and was ignored when tried to get at least consultation about channel strip of their kind of sub brand UK Sound.
@@Piotre well, I prefer to spend 6000 euro for Manley eq than for something what looks like Manley clon from company which actually building own reputation on building clones of existing iconic gear....6000 euro its a lot of money...
@@Samurabe I get it. But still I do appreciate workflow improvements while keeping high sound quality ;-P
Maybe I am too lazy for 'analog workflow' :D
And maybe my lower skills and confidence prefer that something externally can grant exact the same settings when needed every single day not relying only on my hearing or seeing (trying to set knobs using pictures) :D
But well maybe after some years I will agree with you ;) or not again ;-P We will see...
Do we need 3 or 4 if were building a million dollar studio ?
this is really cool, i think im good w my pultec plugins that came free w my la2a 😭 this would be a good purchase if i was rich tho
Blown away !
SPL PQ style EQ?
Clean high damn .. Damn now i hate plugins .. haha
Let me help you out with the downsides: It costs ~6000€, it takes away space, it consumes far more electricity than a plugin, since it's hardware, it will require maintenance at some point, it doesn't have a dynamic EQ function, it's limited to stepped values, you can't use it on multiple scources at the same time, there is not "dry/wet knob" and of course you need to dust it.
I actually liked it's sound, but it's still just an EQ with the option for tube saturation. All the upsides it has compared to other analog EQs are very common and to be expected from plugins.
PS: This is not a hate-post. This is just a post offering you a different perspective on how great and useful it actually is(n't) compared to other workflows.
These are all good points, but consider the use case here: mastering. Then some of your concerns would be alleviated.
Buy it!!! You deserve it!!!😁😁😁We poor folks will continue to use Make Believe Studios' Sontec emulation...
it looks like the manley massive passive eq.. kinda
Wait.... A digital controlled Analog EQ, fine, but how are they doing Band solo'n??? I'm not believing that... That would mean each band would need to be crossed-over like a multiband Comp, But you would not have that in a analog EQ due to phase issues it would introduce. I want an explanation.
Every eq works that way. It chops your frequency spectrum using filters/crossovers and then boosts or cuts that band.
@@rich1051414 you could literally do this fully analogue by just sending the selected band to the output of the unit
@@mikikus222 that's not correct. From the Sonimus website: EQ Basic Functioning
The first invented equalizers were analog electronic circuits. These pieces of gear use resistors, capacitors, and inductors to process the audio. The result is a very small delay at specific frequencies that we call phase shift. The equalizer combines the phase-shifted signal with the original signal, changing the frequency response of the audio by boosting or cutting those specific frequencies and creating the EQ curves that we are familiar with today.
The phase shift can produce artifacts in the audio. EQ designers try to minimize those artifacts, making them only audible in specific situations. This is why most equalizers are typically referred to as minimum phase equalizers.
The electronic design of the equalizer specifies at what frequency the phase shift occurs, while the knob controls the blend between the original and phase-shifted signal - very much like the feedback control on a tape recorder-based delay.
Those are analog filters (HPF & LPF) with quite a lot of dynamic switching to support whole spectrum. So It sets the analog filters for each frequency spectrum to be in the middle between the two. Everything is done in the analog world, it works also without plug-in connected.
the best things in life are free,,, i dont mean free plugins,,,
its all about levels ,, levels can make or break a track,
changing the dynamics between instruments can bring or take away,
like ingredients in a soup, too much or too little alters the taste dramatically.
best of all, we already have it, just need to develope it, and enjoy.
White sea was drooling😅
Great to see you enjoying this job!
To have purpose and satisfaction, you can be grateful for that.
Nice unit. I have to see how my crypto investments go, otherwise I’m still looking at Empress👍🏼
reminds me of the massive passive
6k EQs don't need youtube video demos.
I’m watching and waiting for the blue leds!!! 😂 😂 😂 I’m joking 🙃
I didn’t know I wanted one too.
Just buy it!
GAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGEEEEEEEEEEE CHANGER LOOVVVEEEEEE IT
Wonderful 👍
The Plögin! 🤣
get 50 of those and use them like a normal eq plugin
6000 people watched this video. If we all send you 10 euros u can have it easily.. How do we organize a fundraiser?
someone got addicted to compressors lol
I like buttons. It has many buttons. Do I need more buttons? Yes.
Well, you still ignoring the best M7 Bricasti emulation reverb >> Wave Alchemy Magic7. It seems you have a personal problem with the developer?
Comment for da algorithm
Streak count: 281
I’m SOLD
15:19 - keep trying to convince yourself 😂
🔥
06:11 hail the dark lord
but ouch, that sounded amazing. and yes, 28k loveliness came though on yotube also.
I still don’t understand what makes analog EQ sound different from a digital EQ
The tubes and circuits that give an actual warmth, as well as the ability to push them without getting harsh distortion, pretty much all distortion with great analog equipment sounds good, us in the digital world have to worry about (bad) clipping
FYI The tubes don’t color sound, it’s the transformers mainly. In digital algorithms are changing the sound, you’re changing ones and zeros. In analog your changing actual electrical current which has infinite resolution and other properties.
@@bco0t6 so just subtle saturation is what it seems like I’m hearing. It’s interesting!
Boxseption
UA-camers must be making b
I'm shocked and disappointed you didn't gain match at all. Tsk, tsk Wytse 😂
Wes Audio is forever goated 🐐 shoutout to MixBusTV for putting me on! 🔥
I love Weaver beats children more than you do ❤️
@@Lt_Lobster😂😂😂
Sounds good but the faceplate/design looks horrible. Why not make it actually look like a analog piece of gear that is digitally controlled rather than what they did which is that it looks digital but sounds analog but is digital control. Silly.
Huh?
Congrats bro
Model no
Wat ik nooit zo goed begrijp is dat je in dit soort reviews (heel vaak) bron materiaal gebruikt dat al gemasterd is. Kun je niet beter een pre-master gebruiken als voorbeeld?
Premaster bronmateriaal dat rechtenvrij is, is heeel moeilijk te krijgen... Echt jammer, maar hier is de muziekindustrie gewoon niet chill om, 10 seconden aan beschermde muziek in de video, en ik heb al een strike...
@ Oh maar natuurlijk…. daar had ik nog niet aan gedacht. Veel plezier met je nieuwe aanwinst!
So, massive passive kn steroids
😂
You don't need that EQ. It is pointless
it must be snake oil also... everything is snake oil for you
F... capable, the sound is everthing and it's nothing special.
My favorite eq is the one that pays for affiliate marketing
sounds mid as f, ngl
Nice but 5 949,00 €, so only for professionals or for guys who want to forget they're cuckolded
This is the best comment XD