The Five Freedoms of Aviation
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- Опубліковано 6 чер 2024
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Behind any commercial flight is centuries of political negotiations and accords that dictate who, how, and where airlines can fly.
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Chicago convention photo courtesy Dominique Hymans
Tuvalu airport photo courtesy Lirneasia
Qantas Dreamliner photo courtesy Qantas and used under fair use guidelines
Fun fact: As of 20 Nov, 2017, Tuvalu is the 192nd member of the ICAO.
I guess those domain registration fees are kicking in
Yeah .tv is conveniently useful. Always the obscure countries that have the best domains
@@aceman0000099 fun fact, gb is not part of the eu anymore
@@hazardyt4026 sorry what? The uk is still in the eu, brexit hasnt happened yet.
@@hazardyt4026 yeah not till spring
I am from Guadeloupe and I am suprise that he heard about the Norwegian flights. That proves that his videos are very well prepared.
You are surprise? I am flabbergast!
Manuel Camelo it’s Guadeloupe not Guadalupe. Two different places. And Guadeloupe is shown on a map in the video.... right in the middle of the Caribbean.
Bonjour, don’t you speak french there?
@@theyoshi202 No offense, but you can tell his English isn't the best so he most likely is French from the translator.
@Nordwind872 Yeah I have no idea why I made that comment, it has no point
RE: Space Shuttle Over Canada. We had our own technology, hardware and astronauts on these flights. We also housed the secondary landing strip for the shuttle. It was not without permission, it was in cooperation with.
Canadarm!
As a long time pilot and aviation enthusiast, I had no idea about any of this. You put a lot of effort into the script: TONS of information. Thank you.
You should have done so as it’s part of the atp/atpl theory.
@@737Adventures maybe they were a domestic pilot of some sort? which may not require you to have all this knowledge handy
I get the sense that you like airplanes
cory Sensei ayyy Cory'S in the house!
cory Sensei I keep requesting for him to follow up on his airline stuff lol
cory Sensei I like airplanes
cory Sensei I lik plaanes
Cptkoala4 I do too
Title: "Five Freedoms of Aviation"
Content: "Nine Freedoms of Aviation"
These click baits are evolving!
It is reverse clickbait, you get more than promised!
I agree. I can't believe such a good educational channel would resort to such dirty tactics. Unsubscribed!
Stefan Trandafir did anyone teach you sarcasm?
Stefan Trandafir r/wooosh
True dat
"There are no large airlines restricted from any spade"
Boyyy, did that age well
Ive been trying to find this comment lmao
Right up there with Sam's comments on the "exciting upcoming 737-MAX" and "By 2020, airline travel is set to reach its best year in history." I can't help but notice now that he's a lot more careful with his scripts to help future-proof them a bit.
Wow air makes a brief appearance too!
@@SkulShurtugalTCGOh man I missed that joke! The 737MAX: Grounded in 2019 for 3 years, 2020: A GLOBAL PANDEMIC 😷
And he's showing Aeroflot planes. How ironic!
Achievement unlocked: Video succeeds in aviation shaming Tuvalu to join the ICAO.
I'm an aviation professional with close to 30 years in the industry and I just learned a lot from your video, thanks!
If you sell coffee in the airport cafeteria then you can't call yourself an "aviation professional"
@@skolarii when did he say that..?
11:49 Best drawing of Finland. Ever.
Sweden was also halved
Looks like a blob.
Wrote: Addis Adaba
Spoke: Addis Abada
Correct: Addis Ababa
Zravity ONE ah ok
Me : Abbis Abadabadabababadabada
Adidas Adaba?
My two braincells collapsed
Qasim Jalil
Wow u had braincells i was born with -1
The US never requested permission to fly the space shuttle over Canada because it was implied when the US said "hey, Canada, do you want to work on this Space Shuttle/ISS thing with us?" and Canada said "absolutely yes, we even have our own astronauts".
How about a vid about the cargo side of aviation ? (UPS / fedex / DHF)
this
DH *L* you meant.
It's boring, nothing more to say. :P
+Nikola16789 No it's not. He can discuss about the transportation through different vehicles, transferring with complicated machines and efficiency.
+Jeremey Newcombe That was a joke.
To put it bluntly, airlines are allowed to travel anywhere unless they are not allowed...
***** it's a summary of the whole video, whats your point?
His point is that your statement is obviously true. You're allowed to kill anyone unless you're not allowed. You're allowed to eat and drink and smoke anything, unless you're not allowed. You're listing two mutually exclusive opposites, so of course the statement is true. There's no information in your sentence.
ckannan90 OK i understand where you guys are confused. I'm aware that I made a non-statement, that was intentional as i was being ironic. The point i was making was that this complex system of rules is basically an over complicated way of saying ^.
Antivorg it's ok mate I got it, satire irony and sarcasm are difficult for some people. I'd say it goes over their head but they'd tell me it doesn't nothing goes over their heads and that they would catch it if it tried to go over their heads.... I have predicted the next comment... I'll see if it is what I expect.
Well. It depends on the situations.
They are able to travel above inactive volcanos. Until it became active volcanos. Then they are Choose not to travel there, not because they would get fined for flying there.
Same goes for disputed areas or warzone. Like Syria or Iraq. You wouldn't get fined but Airlines choose not to because of political problems.
"There are no large airlines restricted from airspace"
Iran air in USA
El al in Iran
Yeah, this video is very misleading. For one thing, it is misleading to identify the ICAO as some kind of authority on international flight. I understand he doesn't say it's the source of legality, but that's why it's misleading....the ICAO doesn't authorize or enforce whether an airline can land or take-off from a particular country or locale....the sovereign country or locale does. Woe to any pilot or Airline operator who thinks otherwise, we all operate in the real world; the "Ground control" is King, not the "international" bureaucrat sitting in some office which actually has no jurisdiction and who nobody listens to. These are not "Laws", and identifying them as "Freedoms" makes it seem like it has some hardened legal prerogative that everyone in the world must follow - nothing is further from the truth and real pilots know that.. Real pilots know better than to take these "5 Freedoms" as laws...they're more like guidelines; customs. Yes, you can "expect" and plan around these generally-accepted guidelines, which is important in any industry including the Airline industry. But it is a real danger to just ASSUME that you are ENTITLED to these "Freedoms"?....YOU ARE NOT. At any time, everyone from a local Flight operator or ground controller to the President of the United States can countermand ICAO - ICAO messages and advisories (that's all they are) might be part of someone's pre-flight checklist, but not everyone's and their authority is "Nil" if your airboss says it is. This is for practical reasons...centrally controlling the airline industry is madness. On 9-11, for example, the Chief of operations at the FAA made the call to ground flights everywhere in the US and its airspace. The US Military also made airspace restricted in foreign countries - and those countries such as Germany or Japan had no practical say in the matter. American Aircraft carrier battle groups - who usually let airlines within a few hundred miles of their airspace control in peacetime - extended that restricted zone to near a thousand and redirected airlines and vessels on different courses. ICAO neither had the relevant information to act timely, and had no authority to countermand any of this- effectively, every flight in the world regarding the United States airspace around the World was grounded or re-directed. If there's one person who can order edicts as to how and where international Airlines can operate around the World, it isn't the Secretary-General of ICAO.....it''s the President of the United States.
Tendies also, Qatar airways is restricted from heaps of Arab airspaces
@@Terrekain Just guessing but I'm sure nobody just assumes anything in international aviation . Anyone who thinks it's necessary to punctuate their point(s) by capitalisation is usually talking bullshit.
Tendies those are not major airlines
El Al also is restricted from Saudi Arabia, so their flight to Mumbai has to go all the way down the Red Sea and then hang a hard left... this means that New Delhi is out of range.
That's wonderful. I completed my 4-hour class in 14 minutes, clearer than glass!! Thank you sir!!
ACCORDING TO ALL KNOWN LAWS OF AVIATION
there should be no way a bee is able to fly.
Its wings are too small to get its fat little body off the ground
So, the frequency it generates causes levitation?
Bee-Airlines are not permitted to fly from one country to another due they are a domestic airline XD
However, the bee flies anyway.
You misspelled fourth at 7:49. Unless it was a pun, like back and forth. If that's the case then I applaud you.
The Powerhouse of the Cell lol
i applaud your thought process The Powerhouse of the Cell.
i was hesitant to comment on it and actually hoped (that) someone already did.
they're american, they don't use the letter u
Why though?????????????????????????????????????
BECAUSE THERE'S NO U IN FREEDOM. 🦅🦅🦅
1:15 “No big airline banned from EU airspace” *cough cough* Aeroflot (I know the video is 6 years old)
2:38 I thought that was the Minecraft sun for a second
Like for Shannon airport
I do like it that for decades, airplanes from the US had to land in a town that shares its name with the ship that inflicted the worst naval defeat on the US in the early days of its existence. In a cynical way, that's quite nice...
Don't mind the normal adverts. but mid roll ads really take you out of the video.
Wasn't intentional. I've removed it.
Wendover Productions appreciate it.
Wendover Productions thank you! wouldn't mind watching an ad at the end as well
Wendover Productions love you
angelby crazy how people complain for the smallest things
So if I get this straight, we should be blaming Canada and its high airspace fees for why it's so expensive to fly from the USA to Europe?
If you think Canada's overflight fees are bad, wait until you see those of Russia.
That would partially explain why it cost my girlfriend around $1000 less to buy me a plane ticket back from the US to the Netherlands. 1700 dollars if I bought it, versus 700 euros if she bought it. Another reason could be the damned TSA.
Canada is always to blame, regardless of which problem we're talking about. ;p
Until tomorrow Norwegian has new years sale, tickets from Finland to the US were like 150€ one way, wouldn't call that expensive. It has never been this cheap to fly across the pond.
@@justingt3rs Considering Finland has a unit rate of 49,88, right at the European average, that wouldn't be a big deal, especially in the case of AU-HK-flights which do not fly through Finnish aerospace. You must be mistaking Australia with Canada or Finland with Indonesia.
Ethiopia: Addis Ababa
Chinese occupied part of Ethiopia: Adidas Alibaba
This is an extremely underrated comment
I had never realized that airline flights were so complicated. It sounds like any airline which is registered in an ICAO nation can fly most any flight plan which includes a (passenger) stop in its home country, but with a lot of asterisks and a few surcharges.
Lots of airplane vids lately
I love them
Because they air cool!
boooooo
Paul Jones for fun. I find them uplifting
piet ruslim
Pun intended?
Wendover! Great job. Your VO is easy to listen to. Good pacing, great diction, etc. great graphics and animations. Great info, exhaustive research, and clear writing. There are so many channels out there doing crap work. Thanks for not being one of them.
1:24 * No large airlines tooday* (shows aeroflot) hah. sutch irony...
wtf ya mean with "hope you enjoyed" you're Wendover Productions! your contet is LIT!
Are large airlines really allowed over North Korea?
Daniel McDonough *allowed
Daniel McDonough and no
they are technically allowed but with the economic sanctions , most airlines just avoid that area altogether unless it's china-registered airlines. Plus it's more efficient if the flights to the US goes over RU or SK.
No. For example, from the US' regulations - SFAR 79 to Part 91:
"Prohibition against certain flights within the Flight Information Region of the Democratic People's Republic of Korea
1. Applicability. This rule applied to the following persons:
(a) All U.S. air carriers or commercial operators..."
Short answer, no commercial ops are allowed over NK by a US airline, anybody with a US issued pilot's licence, or anybody using a US registered (N- reg) aircraft. I'm sure EASA and such have similar regulations.
AsHalt that was totally unsarcastically what i was trying to say
Sam sounds so young I almost didn't recognize his voice
At first I though that it was a completely different person.
Canada: Expensive Airspace
Also Canada:
*Sorry*
No wonder it's expensive to fly from U.S. to EU!
"Forth" freedom
Saw that too. Another well made video from Wendover anyway.
he also put Addis Adaba instead of Ababa
wtf relax he made a mistake. took him days to make this vid and u criticize him
British Airways flies Johannesburg to Cape Town so I guess that's one of the exceptions?
British Airways flies a bunch of routes in and from South Africa but the routes are actually operated by Comair which is a South African airline. Of course the planes are painted like British Airways planes and you can buy tickets through british airways, but the staff and registration are from South Africa.
Wendover Productions okay I already thought it would be kind of like that. thanks for the info never observed this any closer
Wendover Productions Is Comair a daughter company of BA then, or are they simply chartering the planes?
Robert Faber I just did some research its some kind of a franchise basically.
Bonnie's MoTo-Ranch Yeah, okay. Makes sense.
Huge thanks for making this impressive content, Wendover Productions.
This was very interesting, thank you for making this video!
This video would be a fun drinking game for every time he says "aviation"
I wanna die! Where do I sign up?
Una Persona Ha! Ha!
Or anytime he says ‘air’ or a word with ‘air’ in it
The International Civil Aviation Organization, also known as the IKAOOOOOOOO
The "I, Cow"
**the iCow
+airbusisawesome
Which is basically a regular cow but with aids, a broken leg that costs a few hundred more dollars and has the apple branding
ICAO
I’m impressed by the amount of research that must have gone into it.
The combination of text and picture on 1:25 aged like milk at room temperature 😅
8:47 you made a mistake, its Addis Ababa
Also "Forth" at 7:46. Oops
not only the spelling, but the pronunciation.. LOL
Whole bunch of comments on that but no one picked up the pronunciation of Etihad?? O.o
Actually it's Addis Abeba
loneRang3r or En Route, pronounced 'on root'
Excellant. I love the amount of info in your videos.
Your short documentaries are fascinating-ly detailed and well thought out. Great job.
This is the third one that I watched. Your presentation, articulation, and continuity are excellent, and I wish you well.
PSA to future commenters:
Only half of the comments seem to have pointed out already that "fourth" is missing a U.
Addis Ababa comes in a close second.
"Ethihad" gets surprisingly little love, so if you feel the need to nitpick, this could use your support.
Also, a lot of people seem awfully confused about Brexit.
LOL!
He actually pronounced Etihad correctly, with a soft t.
Ryanair loses their UK internal flights
These aviation videos are amazing!
Instructive and very well presented, very clear. The simple animation made it complete. Great job.
6:10 in current times is just ironic
This dude likes planes
I wonder if he was like a pilot at some point.
Who _doesn't_ like planes? 500 tons of aluminum and carbon composite flying halfway around the world at nearly the speed of sound, how can anyone not like that?
Spacecraft are even cooler though.
Hmmm... I wonder if he was an air hostess...
Hmmm... Jim never has a second cup of coffee at home...
Isn't this important information to anyone that flies, not simply enthusiasts? I don't get why people think it's out of place or weird for someone to post factual data on something as important as flight. Do you people simply stick around in your home town forever and never fly anywhere? So strange...
I learn so much from your videos. You are the only one I support at Patreon. Keep up the good work!
I have learned so much about Air Law in just one video.. That's very impressive, thanks!
Aeroflot left the chat last year…
Even though aviation is really complicated, it is unbelievably fun to learn it!
You like planes, I like planes, We all like planes!
Jayden Dabral i am a plane(no i'm not)
I like the planes that help get the sticky outy bit off the bottom of my doors.
^^Maybe not the people that are afraid of heights, claustrophobic, have a fear of dying in plane crashes, hate the sound of babies crying, people snoring or farting etc.
I on the other hand do love a good flight especially the trembles and shakes when the plane lifts off and lands.
I like trains.
I love airplanes ... SMALL PRIVATE AIRCRAFT .... will NOT fly on airlines! We were here first!
7:20 and now they were trialling direct flights from London to Sydney, what a difference 3-4 years can make
Any improvements?
Thanks, that's just what I needed having clearly explained for my ATC training.
I hope you do well in your career
Couple of things:
1. The 'overfly fees' are actually called navigation charges. The most expensive navigation charges in the world are: Switserland, Canada and singapore.
2. Freedom 1 and 2 are granted with each other.
3. The 2nd and 5th freedom NEVER are granted together, the 2nd freedom is granted to every country as it involves safety reasons. The 5th freedom is granted only after long negotiations between two countries.
4. The 7,8 and 9th freedoms never come together either. Taking the open skies agreement between the US and the EU contains the 7th and 8th freedom but not the ninth. This make european airlines unable to fly on the very important Domestic market in the US but does allow US airlines the right to fly from any US city to any EU country and then flying 'domestic' within europe for instance: JFK-LHR-FRA and back again.
The ICAO doesn't have much to do with these freedoms though as they don't make laws. The ICAO only makes suggestions to the FAA (federal aviation administration) in the US and the EASA (european aviation safety association) in the EU. They make the laws then the counries themselves need to play the role of law enforcement.
5. Norway is and always has been part of the European Common Aviation Area, but does not however as stated in the video after; Norway does indeed not enjoy the freedoms of agreements the EU has made with foreign countries such as the US etc, unless included as part of the ECAA / EMAA etc.
0:59 "Each has varying levels of acceptance". He never made any claims that they were universal
This video info is one of the first things learned when hired by an international airline. I remember it well.
So I can't fly my 747 over Angola... I'll keep that in mind.
You can't fly any plane over any other countries airspace without permission.
Your videos are very informative and 'easy' to watch. Your voice is very pleasant and speach tempo is perfect. 2.1m people can't be wrong. Keep up the good work! subbed.
according to all known laws of aviation...
. ... .
Lol
@Voicefull Medal60 5 months later you respond 4 months later the other guy responds
@JavozREKZ / REKZboss
...but the bee flies anyway...
...because it's been granted 7th freedom rights by the ICAO.
nunya beeswax
- the bees
British Airlines still use Shannon airport to refuel, on its BA1 service from London City, to New York JFK. They use A318s on that flight
SuperChris153 airways*
I am going to stick up my old man hand here and reveal that in January, 1961, I was a passenger on a USAF C-118 that landed in Shannon for refueling on a flight from McGuire AFB, New Jersey, to Frankfurt. I wonder how many people are still around who can remember crossing the Atlantic in a piston-engined airplane, in a backwards-facing passenger seat.
They only have one A318, so it isn't "A318s" like you said.
Really cool video, thanks for some cool info I never even knew I didn't know!
You could say that the EU is something like a country on many points.
1. The Aviation Freedom is like the EU was a country
2. You can go from Germany to France and don't have to pay roaming fees for the Internet/Calls/SMS on your Smartphone
3. We will have unified Copyright laws in a few weeks
4. The EU has its own ccTLD (websites with .eu) and an Emoji 🇪🇺
5. No border controls. You can easily drive from one state to another.
6. No duties: You can sell Spanish pork in Denmark with no fees.
7. We have a Parliament and European Council with a Government (European Commission)
8. TAX Laws. With minimum and maximum TAX which can be given.
9. Trading deals with other countries as a big EU.
10. A unified currency. The Euro (€) 💶
11. Some unified agencies.
12. Many EU Laws. Like human right laws ect.
For example: death penalty is forbidden in the EU.
And even more..
Economically, it's basically a country.
You sound almost proud to give up your sovereignty. What an idiot.
Dude! This is a FANTASTICALLY informative video! Thank you for making UA-cam a better place man
I love these aviation videos
Thanks for sharing this awesome video! I have been noticing sense I live in Jersey that Emirates has been flying from Athens, Greece to Newark Airport in New Jersey. With the 5th freedom that I learned from this video, they went from Dubai to Athens to Newark. Not to refuel in Athens but to also pick up passengers. Super cool you taught this!
They also fly Barcelona with 5th freedom for there south American flights
Watching a video from 6 years ago is my pride
Great job, mate! Enjoyed your video
I really love your videos! :) I'm curious - what made you curious about the airline industry? How do you pick your topics? You bring a lot of insights to all sorts of questions I always had! :)
Absolutely loved the video !!! Very informative and trivial
1:24 There are no large airlines restricted from any airspace
Literally showing aeroflot which is now banned everywhere.
This video was recorded and produced in 2016, prior to the Russia - Ukraine war.
@@SirAxel. no I know, it's just funny how he chose the one and only airline to play a clip of that is now banned
@@greenguren ah ok
+Wendover Productions Dominica has 2 international airports, Canefield and Douglas Charles International
Dylan Lewis-Creser ...flying twin otters loaded with 10 pax from one island “nation” to another ha ha
Jetstar, Australian airline, flies domestic NZ between Auckland and Wellington, and other smaller cities in NZ.
Australia and New Zealand also have a single aviation market like the EU. Its one of the other few examples.
Wendover Productions thanks for the reply. Very interesting, I did not know that. Another oddity is that although Qantas is Australia's flag carrier, it displays a NZ flag on Trans-Tasman flights because it outsources everything but its brand to a Qantas owned, NZ registered airline.
LATAM Airlines has flights between two cities of Argentina, and it´s not an Argentinian Airline. Either they have freedom 9, or Latin America has a similar aviation market like Europe where it´s all one.
Those services are operated by a subsidiary company, Jetconnect, a New Zealand Company.
Those flights are operated by their subsidiary LATAM Argentina
I like your longer videos, i feel i learn more, and i dont mind watching something for 15 min
Very nice work on a complex subject-- thank you for the effort. Will visit and look over Patreon.
7:54 forth?
Go fourth and multiply.
@@mirzaahmed6589
No, it's 'be fruitful and multiply';
'Go forth and conquer!'
Yes. It is forth not fourth
Whoa so informative and specific, please more vid's about aviation like this! Maybe next time about alliance (skyteam, etc...) awesome , thumbs up!
2016: We can’t fly from eastern Australia to London
2019: Hmm what plane should we use for Project Sunrise?
Very insightful presentation of aviation/airline industry.
Will you ever make more twl? I really liked that series and I miss it
i gotta correct you mate:
Norway isn't in the EU, but it is in the EEA.
they buy access to the same agreements that EU nations have with each other.
also - there are Nordic agreements (Sweden, Finland, Denmark and Norway) - preceding the EU, which guarantee's access between these nations markets on all levels (except of dangerous substances - drugs, alcohol, tobacco and fire arms).
btw. Norwegian airlines are located in Sweden more for the reason that Stockholm is the largest city in the Nordic nations - 3x larger than Oslo.
it has nothing to do with being located inside the EU.
but other than that, on point.
ALL HAIL SWEDEN
why is norway such a difficult country? They arent part of the eu but almost always when the eu does something norway wants to be a part of it but whenever someone implies that norway is part of the eu the comment section will just be filled with people telling that norway is not part of the eu. Even though they act as an eu member at almost all times
@@hesseldekraai
Because they want the 'opt-out' power that Britain and possibly Germany want back.
[Afterword: If Britain successfully withdraws, with or without EU consent, if Germany or any other two semi-solvent countries withdraw, the EU will collapse due to fiscal distress.]
@@hesseldekraai Imagine a wall all around Norway. Imagine that wall being the EU. That's why we're unofficially part of the EU.
We need them to trade our resources and they need our resources.
So descriptive, thanks for the informative work ! Cheers!
The 9th Freedom is used in New Zealand by Jetstar, an Australian airline owned by Qantas. They operate Domestic and Regional flights throughout New Zealand.
hey guys,
first time checking out your videos. they are very informative and Intresting on all subjects you guys have produced. also the narrator, graphics , and writing r top notch.
.. I can see you guys do not f@$!# around when you approach Your work.
you make explaining something complex, easy to understand. thanks for that.
keep up the good work.
I absolutely love The aviation videos.
Great video simplifying a complex subject
JR
I lllooovvveee this channnel. Been binge watching it
Another 5th freedom route: it’s Air Canada from Toronto(YYZ) Buenos Aires (EZE) and Santiago (SCL)
These videos are like bill wurtz's work only with all the knowledge.
Thank you, this is a great educational video for someone learning about aviation policy!
So informative and interesting, thank you for this video.
thank your the video is very informative
Loving your videos, especially the airline ones as I work in travel, you're doing a great job of making this complicated industry easy to understand! Love to see a video about the evolution of the ticketing systems - as somewhat of an insider, I understand that it began as a very very manual process and there was a lot of competition in the early days of moving to electronic systems but nowadays just a handful of systems remain which dominate the market entirely.
*cringe* but as an African I have to be THAT guy and point out the mis-pronunciation/spelling of Addis Ababa (not Abada) and Etihad (Not Ethihad). Sorry!
Great video thanks for making it
Great video. Informative. Thank you.
7:48 It’s meant to say fourth.
Do a sequel based on what could (theoretically) happen as a consequence of the Ryanair 4987 incident.
Very interesting. Thanks for sharing !
Now I understand all those aviation rules..I have always some misunderstanding about Aviation and stuff..But After watching this videos I have clear conception about how Aviation works..Thanks man