BEFORE You BREAK IN Your New Lawn Mower Engine, WATCH THIS!
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- Опубліковано 5 жов 2024
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BEFORE You BREAK IN Your New Lawn Mower Engine, WATCH THIS! This NEW Honda HRN216VKA has been unboxed and is ready to be set up. In this video, I show the new or average homeowner how to BREAK-IN an engine properly and easily! I even give this mower its first start up! These simple steps will go a long way toward making this mower last a lifetime. This is the second video of a new playlist - MAKE YOUR MOWER LAST A LIFETIME. I picked a quality mower and plan to show you how to set it up in future videos, maintain it and do some fun things with it along the way. LIKE & SUBSCRIBE!
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I saved the empty Honda container of oil and just refill it with bulk 5W-30 synthetic. It makes measuring the oil a no brainer.
I hope you have better luck with your Honda mower than I did with mine. My Honda was nothing but trouble and after three seasons of battling with a poor cut, broken wheels, worn out bearings, and a cracked deck, II switched to a Toro 4 years ago and I’ve had zero trouble since.
I was very leery of the Toro due to the Briggs & Stratton engine, but I have to say it’s been bulletproof.
By the way, I did exactly what you did except I change the oil after the first cut, approximately 35 minutes for my yard and then again after the 10th cut, approximately five hours on the engine.
I then change the oil midseason and at the end of the season before storage and all of my equipment. before storage it also gets a fresh spark plug and air filter and then is allowed to run into all the fuel is out of the system and the engine dies
@@chrisanderson4799 thanks for sharing Chris
I cannot tell you how many times I’ve had to explain this to customers and reps and sales people, but here it is in hopes it will help alleviate the stress levels some of you are experiencing: The oil in your new engine is turning dark because carbon and unburned petroleum components are blowing past the piston rings and down into the crankcase. The rings haven’t formed and finalized their wear pattern yet, (known as “seating”). These contaminants are soft and pose no threat to the engine. Also, using non- ethanol gasoline actually contributes to the harmless oil darkening as it lacks the chemicals which promote a cleaner combustion burn. The metal particles are also completely harmless as long as you maintain the correct oil level for your engine and do not operate it at an extreme angle to it’s center axis design, particularly so if it’s a non-pressurized oiling system. These metal particles are of the exact same hardness as the metal components they are shed from, meaning they do not posses any greater abrasive qualities, and further more are suspended in and completely surrounded by lubricant. Prematurely changing the initial oil in a brand new or overhauled engine will only prolong the break in period, and in worse case scenario will prevent the piston rings from fully seating to design specifications. The results of course are reduced compression values and higher than normal oil consumption, leading to reduced power and shorter life span of the engine. I do not recommend synthetic oils in these small engines; Today’s manufacturing processes yield extremely durable surfaces and require nothing more than the recommended viscosity mineral / petroleum based oil. It is only under very extreme operating temperatures, engine load values, and oil change intervals that I would consider synthetic oil. Hopefully this will ease your minds the next time you grab the pull cord.
Thanks for sharing 2 Wheels!
@@GarageGear Well thank YOU for reading my little essay! I’m retired these days but still enjoy discussing engine theory and dynamics, especially with a power equipment enthusiast such as yourself. Also I commend you for your videos that take a practical and cautious approach to engine maintenance. Your detailed videography raises important awareness in operating and maintaining these engines- so great job there!… and you have impeccable taste in power equipment brands- thank you for that ; )
@@2wheelsmidnight549 Thank you and I appreciate the positive feedback 2wheels!
Thanks for this info! 👍🏽👍🏽
@@Lucentlens My pleasure! Thank you for reading it : )
My previous Honda mower lasted over 21 years on the first oil fill. Never changed it. Not once. It's just a mower. The engine was still running fine. Only replaced the mower because the deck was rusting out, self drive was wearing out and the plastic fuel tank developed a leak.
Thanks for sharing!
Thank you for this. I just bought an HRX217HYA today and plan on following all your "make it last a lifetime" tips. I'm 54 and this better damn well be the last lawnmower I ever have to buy.
My tiller is older than you lol My oldest lawnmower, which runs nice but needs work, is about your age. I pulled my newer mower out of a garbage bin 15 years ago; runs great. All Briggs L-Head engines. Helps to begin with a well made machine, but they will all die if not looked after.
It just might be! Enjoy the mow this season.
Best to keep them running!
Lightweight is good and what did I use it for it’s a lawnmower ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxTPN04aT-Qdjr_KS3ql7ng8wnU3wwsCqk also recommend Yes it is lightweight so hence not as robust as our old one. But if you take care it does the job really well.
Thanks for watching
Took your advice. I just bought a new hrc216hxa. Used amsoil 10w30 for small engines. Started and let run for 30 minutes. Drained it into a clear glass jar and it was close to black. Oh, and no starter bottle of oil (cheapskates). Also the manual for the hrc said 1st oil change after 20 hours. Glad I listened to you!!
Definitely a good idea to get that junk out!
thank you. i followed your suggestion to change the oil after 30 min on my bran new mower. you were right, there were quite a few flakes of metal in that oil and it was darker than oil should be for 30 min of run time.
Your lawn mower thanks you!
Great advice jb!
I can’t imagine how many ppl buy a mower and just fill it up w oil and don’t even change it at the 5 hour mark.
This serves as a good reminder
Thanks George! Its crazy to think how many people don't change the oil at 5 hours. Imagine how many people don't even change their oil at all? lol Hey congrats again on the explosive growth on your channel dude!
@@GarageGear Thanks bro, its been a fun couple weeks for sure! we got to do another collab some time that was fun!
@@PrincessCutLawnCare keep me posted my friend! You know I’m down!
@@NoName-gv6nm no worries 10 hours is not as bad as most ppl! You’ll be alright 😃
18 years without an oil change on a honda hrr 216, Bought this lawn mower brand new in 2006 And i've never changed the oil at all, It still has the original oil that I first put in it, With plenty of power and no smoking, Been used commercially on a regular basis for most of those eighteen years.
I always go an hour then change. I wanna give the rings time to seat well before I do the 1st change. Me being the overachiever that i am, i change oil every 20hrs on my small engines. I have my new Honda HRX217 arriving today to replace the Snapper ive been using the past 10yrs. Very anxious to mow that first patch of grass with a new machine!!! Dad mode level to brag about!! May even polish up my New Balance shoes & give the khakis a nice press while we wait
Not a bad plan rick! lol ROCK ON with he outfit! Enjoy the new mower!
I’ve owned a toro recycler for the last 10-12 years and the deck started rusting out. I’ll be buying my 1st Honda this week , thanks for the informative video I plan on breaking it in right
You’ll be all set to go Jim! Thanks for watching my friend!
Good to see people still use this practices. A bought the Honda HRX 217 a few days and changed the oil after a 30 minutes of use.
Hey 4x4! Learned this trick from my brother! He did the same thing with a new car engine he built! Should have seen the oil that came out of that after 30 minutes! Thanks for watching!
I got a HRN216VKA yesterday to replace my craftsman mower that died. I never owned a self-prepared mower before so i wanted to see what other people's experiences were. Glad I found this video. I did the initial fill of oil, ran for 20 min then drained it. The oil was defiantly blackened, and there was "stuff" in it, but i didn't have any clear containers to inspect the used oil.
The only other thing i would add to this video @215 would be to use a fuel stabilizer with the gasoline you have "sitting" in a storage can.
Hey Erik, thanks for sharing your first oil change story. It’s good to get that junk out right away. Have no fear. I always run ethanol free gas in all of my machines. Thanks for looking out for me! Thanks for watching! 👍
@@GarageGear Hello just picked this mower up getting ready for 1st set up based on your video here...question where do you get ethanol free gas ?
@@Scubasgamecorner they sell it at some local gas stations near me. You can google ethanol free gas near me and see what comes up. There are also canned products on Amazon but those can get a little pricey! Thanks for watching!
My Briggs and stratton recommend 5 hour break in, I already had 2 hrs. Break in, then watch your video and did a oil change and it was sparkle from metal , change the oil ( sticking with Briggs and stratton SAE 30w).
Thanks for the video:)
Hey Kirk! Good idea changing that oil early my friend! Get the garbage out! Thanks for watching!
I run Walmart Supertech Full Synthetic 10w30 in my Honda mower, Yamaha generator & Tractor Supply Kohler engine log splitter. I usually mow my yard once with a new mower then change out that dirty metal dust oil. Mine all run great with ethanol free gas. Good video.
I use that oil frequently! Works well! It’s pretty amazing how dirty the oil comes out! Ethanol free gas is the way to go! Thanks for watching Chris! 👍
Junk oil use amsoil. 100% synthetic
@@reginaldsmall3766 thanks for sharing
Good video. I disagree however with putting in synthetic oil so soon. It is excellent for preventing friction and when breaking in an engine you need that friction. I would suggest putting in Honda oil and run it for a few cuts or even a full season then swapping over to full synthetic.
Good idea! Thanks for watching Ron!
Agree with Ron, not mower related but still engines, when the LS Chevs came out in Australia there was a lot of problems with oil burning because fastidious owners would change to synthetic oil too early and the engine never fully ran in.
@@cudadog11 thank you for sharing!
Just picked up one of the final Honda HRN 216 mowers made in 2023. I changed the oil after one mow , approx. 30-40 minutes.. it looked clean on the dipstick, but the new oil was dirty ! thanks for the tip..
You got it put! Thanks for watching!
Good video, I really enjoy videos that can also be listened to without having to keep your eyes glued on the screen. You were very descriptive in the process. Thanks
@@albertrodriguez7395 thanks for watching Albert! 👍
I changed the oil in my new HRX217HYA after the first mow, which was about 1 hour of use. No more than 1.5 hours. The oil that came out was very dirty and full of fine metal particles. I plan to change it again after 3rd or 4th mow.
Good plan Bobby!
Bought one of these recently and can confirm that it indeed started on the first pull. I ran it for about 45 minutes and then changed the oil. It did not look as dark as the one in this video, but it was glittery.
Thanks for sharing gab!
@@GarageGear Thanks for all your tips.
@@gab_ale you got it! 👍
I love your channel just found out about it recently. I have a quick question. I use Mobile one full synthetic not the Walmart brand, just bought a new Honda lawnmower, I also use Lucas oil and fuel, and in the oil crank case in my vehicles and my other lawnmoweris how do you feel about the oil and have you tried it in any of the Honda mowers? It definitely helps break in and long life and longevity. Today’s answer to slick 50.
Hey mark! I just stick with super tech full synthetic. Never gave me any issues. If it’s working for you keep going with it! 👍
Thanks a lot. I’ve been using Lucas oil in with my full synthetic for years and it has been excellent.
I don’t use super tech oil. I always ask where my oil is manufactured at because I absolutely refused to use Pennzoil of any kind or anybody or manufacturer oil for it causes major breakdowns, and failures.
Are use Valvoline full synthetic , Mobile 1 full synthetic, I used to use Royal Purple full synthetic, but it is sometimes hard to come by.
Those are the only oils that I will use no matter what after time spent racing Overland and motocross, and driving a semi full-time OTR.
I purchased one of those mass produced Chinese 127cc mowers getting around. Purchased a 1L of B&S straight 30. Ran it for 10 mins on idle and built revs over half hr. Oil was still clean as new. So I left it in there for another 40hrs. It was only tinged brown. Emptied it, no metal at all. Topped it up with 10/30w and have ran it another 25hrs. Have only replaced a spark plug. I purchased another one and repeated the same process. They run as smooth as a Honda and Sound alike. Believe it or not.
That’s pretty cool! Thanks for sharing this Alana! 👍
I hust got a HRX217VKA today, I actually gave the motor a few turns with the pull string before I put gas in it to run. Idk if it helps or not, but figured it'd help get oil moving before it actually ran. Did my normal mow (2 1/2 hours). Then changed it with the oil I used in my mustang (Rip) Liquimoly molygen 5w-30
Thanks for sharing my friend! Enjoy the mow!
That is a good idea.
Thank you for the recommendation for the pump. I have a Topsider from Northern, but it has its issues, like falling apart when trying to pump, it’s go t vice grips as a plunger handle. The strap wrench on the handle is brilliant! I’ve been using bungie cords, rags, old socks, whatever. That looks a lot better!
NO problem James! The strap wrench works great. It doesn’t come loose and doesn’t mar up the handlebars either! Thanks for watching my friend! 👍
I use 6 inch velcro straps. The colored ones that come in 5 to a pack. Very simple to wrap one on and take off. Then you can just let them hang off the handle bar when not in use.
@@brianwebb9121 another good idea Brian!
Great video! I’ve always changed oils early as well and you did a great job showing why important!
A whole new conversation is engine oil type used in small engines. Modern vehicle engine oil has less additives to prevent engine wear due to emission components. There are engine oils on the market specifically formulated for small engines that lack the emissions components. These oils have much more friction additives. Take a look at Amsoil small engine oils for details. Might make a great video in the future!
Cheers.
I like where your head is at zloft
the self propelled version of this with the blade control sounds so sweet especially when engaging the blades
It definitely does! 👍
Great video! I just bought this lawnmower. For the price of it, I don’t want to have to buy another one for about 15-20 years. So thanks for the tips on helping me make sure I break it in well enough!
You got it Haa! These Hondas are great machines and can last quite a while if taken care of! Be sure to check out the rest of the videos in this playlist! Thanks for watching!
Picking up this mower today after losing all hope in my Ego mower. Growing up racing nitro RC cars, I know the importance of a great break in so I’m glad I found this video. Thanks a lot!
Awesome Jeremy! Breaking in an engine is incredibly important to its longevity! Enjoy your new Honda! What was the story behind the ego mower?
@@GarageGear Wrapped up the break in and oil change last night and patiently waiting for the first cut today. The Egos electronics went out on me. Specifically, the safety switches in the foldable arms malfunctioned which required me to Jerry rig a jumper cable just to get the blade to spin. Also, the speed controller for the self propel function is stuck at high speed. Only had the mower for two years. So I’m glad I went back to tried and true gas powered. Even more with this being my first Honda.
@@jeremyjordan4508 wow! Two years old and major issues like that? That’s crazy! Sounds like you got pretty handy fixing that thing though! You’ll enjoy the new Honda! Enjoy your first mow my friend!
My father has a Honda gcv160-powered mower and he figured the oil was lifetime. After 13+ seasons he finally changed it. It was below the minimum and totally black. He never did any winterizing either and used regular 87 gas. Still started and continues to start on the first pull. Get a Honda before they leave the market.
Wow thanks for sharing tapes!
They do run it at the factory for a minute and then dump the oil I believe . Amazing that your oil was that dark ! That last bit in the pan looked new !
Hey Memphisruss, I’ve seen a lot of machines do this when new. This is a good step to take! I figured they did run the machine but it clearly isn’t run for long lol! Thanks for checking out my channel! 👍
Just bought this mower this week at Home Depot. Can’t wait to use it. Thanks for all your tips so far on your videos you are awesome JB !
ROCK ON Troy! Thanks for watching! 👍
@@GarageGear no problem I’m at 25 year veteran at Home Depot if you need any insight thanks Lol 😄
@@troybuiltadventures5481 appreciate you Troy!
Just bought mine. I'm sticking with your break in method over Honda. Seems like a much safer way. My first Honda BTW. The first mow blew my old 99 Toro recycler out of the water.
ROCK ON Hammer!
I run 15w-40 in my lawnmower. I change at approximately every 20 hours of use . If you do this and keep a clean air filter, your mower will last 4 times longer . I currently repowered a 1998 Snapper 21 with a Briggs&Stratton short block.
Good info here Jon! Thanks for sharing!
ok so first might i suggest decaf...lol just kidding. good info and good delivery of info. makes it worth watching. I know that the term best oil is kinda like best car brand or whatever but just to throw it out there i would recommend after break in to change the oil and either use Amsoil or Alisyn pro drive both in 10/30. In my research at least those 2 oils offer the best protection money can buy with Alisyn edging out Amsoil in my opinion. just a thought.
Thanks for sharing Jeff! When I made this video I was trying to make it as straight forward for the average homeowner as I could. Keeping things simple and cost effective. Good oil choices and thanks for watching!
I just got the hru216 I wish the bloke from the mower shop had told me this, I’ve already done around 5 hours.
I’m changing the oil before using it again.
Probably should do the same with the Honda brush cutter too
Many don’t know about this procedure. Not to worry. Change it out and you’ll be good to go!
I’m liking this mower from all the reviews I’ve been seeing… curious how the rear discharge works-as the grass being cut here and be tough and high at times.. no mulching or bagging. Would you still recommend this mower, or another suggestion?
Rear discharging is average on this mower. It does work well. The super recycler has a side discharge that’s great but their drive system is terrible. Won’t back up. The mulching and Bagging are great on the Honda! They may surprise you
Hello, I like this upload. I have just purchased a HRU196 today (with the GXV engine). I'm going to follow your video except using full synthetic 10w30 because the Honda manual I received only mentions it. Although I'm sure 5w30 would have been fine.
Edit: I purchased that strap wrench that you linked too. Useful tool!
There ya go real deal! Thanks for watching!
Hello! Thanks a lot for sharing this great video clip. It's very helpful, and this is my first time to learn how important to change oil first time when break-in.
Hey am I free! Definitely important! Thanks for the positive feedback!
I thought the small amount of oil that came in the new mower was a break-in oil with additives to help the rings seat properly. I would imagine those additives need to be in the engine more than 20 minutes to work properly. I'm also of the mindset that the engineers who designed these engines probably have plenty of test data to support their 5 hour break-in recommendation.
Hey Mike, they barely put any oil in when they ship these out. Spoonful or two. They may have their test data but that oil was awfully dirty after 30 minutes. Here is the video after 5 hours. (2nd oil change) the oil is much cleaner. Thanks for watching!
@@GarageGear yeah it's my understanding that the small amount of oil contains the break in additives that is designed to mix with the regular oil you put in before starting.
@@mikecurtis1111 that’s the first I’m hearing of this and I don’t recall seeing any info on this in the manual. If you ask me you’re better off changing the oil and getting the metal shards out of that engine quickly.
@@GarageGear from reading the manual, it's residual oil from the factory. They test run every engine at the factory, and then drain the oil before it's shipped. Naturally, there's some oil that doesn't completely drain. I guess it's just regular oil
@@mikecurtis1111 got it! Thanks for sharing! 👍
Only thing I’d add is after that initial thermal cycle, put a load on the engine mowing grass for :20-:30 before changing oil to seat the rings well.
Good tip DC! Thanks for sharing! 👍
I agree with changing the oil right away to flush out metal debris and assembly byproducts. Honda doesn't make a full synthetic small engine motor oil. Normally it's not a good idea to switch to a full synthetic so quickly. You need to allow for the piston rings to properly seat into the cylinder walls unless the cylinder walls were specifically bored and honed for synthetic oil break in. Will end up with the rings never properly sealing and you get blow by.
Thanks for sharing this Dan! And thanks for watching! 👍
Not going full synthetic straight away because it interferes with break-in is an internet myth.
@@em4703 Watch some videos on Evo 4g63 and STi EJ25 motor builds for reference. You go with full synthetic right away the piston rings will not seat into the cylinder walls properly and you will get blow-by. We are talking single cylinder lawn mower engines, but I'm more from a high performance engine background. Honda still only sells non-synthetic oil for their lawn mowers because that is how the motor is designed by Honda engineers.
Thank you for posting this. Just bought a HRX217HYA and changed after 30 minutes because of this video. Came out black! 😢😮
Smart to check it after 30 minutes! Thanks for watching!
went to lowes picked up new mower.will break in engine per your instructions .ty Honda Hrx 201-cc 21-in Self-propelled Gas Lawn Mower
ROCK ON 61! Enjoy the mow!
I did find the bag filled up rather quickly and the grass was pretty damp so you can def feel the weight when the bag fills up. This is my first mower with a bag.
I was skeptical of the rear discharge but found that with it being in the back I didn’t have any issues with grass blowing in my feet and also the fact you don’t have the side discharge in the way, I was able to get in more tighter areas I can’t with my side discharge mower.
All great information here Jor! I am anxious to compare how this mower does on my lawn with the rear discharge, mulch an bag options. How did the mower handle thicker/taller grass?
@@GarageGear I thought it handled the thicker taller grass pretty well in the bag mode but for the mulch mode, I think it’s a little tough when the thicker grass is wet. I could hear it kind of sputtering, never worried about it stalling but def could hear some strain. It still mulched it but left clumps I had to go back over with the bag and suck up!
@@jorscorer3344 ok good information here! I’ll be sure to give it a thorough morning test when the grass is wet.👍
A couple of things I would like to mention here..........I also agree with the break in start up, but there is one very important thing you should do before you fire it up; 1: disconnect the spark plug wire and crank it over by hand quite a few times to get the parts well lubricated before putting it under its own power. 2: Instead of using a strap wrench to keep the blade and engine power engaged, use a simple spring loaded clamp. I've been using a spring loaded clamp for many years on my vintage Honda HRS21 mower and it works great!!!! But other than that..........keep up the great video content and information.
Hey Toyota, thanks for watching and sharing!
@@GarageGear I watched this video because today I'm getting my new Honda HRN216VKA lawnmower and I wanted to see what other people were saying about it. I can't wait to start using it 😬
@@91rattoyota very cool! You won’t be disappointed my friend! Let me know how you like it!
I did what showed the video. Holy cow when I drained the oil after 40 minutes, it was dirty with small pieces of metal like you had in the video. I refilled with synthetic oil 10W-30. Thanks for the tip
@@wilmerfajardo8488 hey Wilmer! Glad to hear you got the lousy oil out with all the junk in it. Now you’re good to go! Thanks for watching!
Breaking in new HRN16 per your video right now. 3/4 pull started immediately. 5 more minutes till I replace the oil. Using Mobil one extended performance 5W-30 and trufuel no ethanol fuel.
You’ll be all set to go my friend! 👍
@@GarageGear ordered one of your stickers to slap on it for ya
@@jimhansen1245 ROCK ON JIM! Appreciate your support!
Mate just put it together and waiting for a day to mow when I came upon your channel, just went ahead with what you said and a big thanks. In Australia their $899 must look after this investment looking forward to more of your tips. Take care
So cool that you found my channel on the other end of the world Paul! Glad that you found these videos helpful. Plenty more to come. That’s a high price tag for that mower. Prices are all over the place right now. Stay tuned for more! Thanks for being a cool fan! 👍
Great Tips JB. I have a Honda HRX 217. I use ethanol free gas and John Deere Turf Guard oil. Was told my mechanic at John Deere dealer than the Honda with JD oil would last for a long time. I change my oil in the oil probably ore often than necessary but it is cheap insurance for me! Great Videos JB!
Hey Mark, I totally agree with you on the "cheap insurance" policy. Your mechanic is right! Changing the oil often is the best way to keep your engine going for a very long time. And the ethanol free gas is the best way to go! How longs have you been using that JD Turf guard oil? Expensive? Thanks for being a cool fan!
@@GarageGear JB, I bought my Honda HRX 217 about 4 years ago. I have a big yard that is extremely hilly and a lot of side hill mowing. I takes me walking about 21/2 hours to mow but I didn’t want to spend thousands on a rider. The rider would have to have a locking rear end for hills and those are only with huge decks. I get JD oil at JD dealership. Mower doesn’t take take much so it’s not expensive to me. Fresh oil,sharp blades make a mower last. Honda has very fast blade speed which also makes a big difference. Thanks for the response JB
@@markhaas8394 oh wow! You’re a brave man Mark mowing for 2.5 hours. My wife would kill me if I took that long lol! I’ll you what I loved the cut quality on the past Honda I had! I’m excited to see what this one can do!
I just changed my Honda engine oil after 10 years. Gave it a new blade, spark plug, and filter while I was at it. It runs as smooth as your new engine and doesn't burn oil or leak it. I'll be good for another 10 years before I need to change it again. Go team Honda!!! 🤗😘😉
@@christopherguzzi1316 wow! Thanks for sharing Christopher!
Awesome video! I love Rotella since I have 2 of my 3 diesels running on it. ( my BMW 35d uses Castrol). Why do you use 5-30 instead of the recommended 10-30?
@@vberry2415 better temperature range for my climate!
First, just a little shout out to thank you for your detailed videos! I stumbled across your channel during a search about the remaining Honda mowers, and your info helped me to finalize my purchasing decision.
Now that I am a first time Honda mower owner and have completed my 1st oil change at 1 hour (I pushed it a little further than 30 minutes because I was trying to finish the yard), I have a crazy question for you! When you did the Honda suggested 5 hour oil change, did you time it from the actual start of use or from the point of your 30 minute oil change?
Thank you in advance for your thoughts on this!
@@3Badelves hey my friend I timed it from the 30 minute oil change! You’re smart to do this! Your engine will run much cleaner! Thanks for being a cool fan!
@@GarageGear Great minds think alike! I figured as much, but I just wanted to pick your brain about it.
Thanks again, and we look forward to watching and learning from your fantastic channel!
@@3Badelves ROCK ON my friend! 👍
Hey thanks for the Tips on this mower. Just picked one up. Cant believe these gas mowers won’t be around much longer
I’ll be keeping all mine for a long time!
Apparently for some reason the auto choke actuator is common problem on these mowers and has a excessive overlap. Other than that it's a great lawn mower. They have great engine, the design deck is fantastic, and it cuts well.
You’re right Alley! Luckily they are easy to fix/replace and the carbs are easy to clean! Thanks for checking out my channel!
I recently purchased this mower and this video was very informative.
Awesome Ryan! Glad you found this video helpful! Appreciate the positive feedback! Thanks for watching!
You won’t be disappointed with this lawn mower. Great video
Appreciate you ghost!
I just purchased a HRN216, I found this video before I first used it. I was a bit sceptical with the whole oil change, but was prepared nonetheless. Sure enough after about 30 mins the oil was black and there was heaps of tiny metal particles in the oil. I'll run again and change in 5 hours and might go to a full synth. Is there much difference between 10-30 and 5-30 in these engines?
Hey Tim, thanks for watching! The manual states you can use either oil. I use 5w30 in just about all my machines with no issues and it works for my temperature zones. Smart man getting those metal particles out!
@@GarageGear wow. That oil is already dark at 30 mins running but hey, since I change oils every 50 hours, I still go for mineral monograde and multigrade Diesel engine oils . It worked and still works for me
@@danteerskine7678 Awesome thanks for sharing Danny!
That made a lot of sense. Thanks for the tips. I am a newbie to all this. Do they make an hour counter that goes on the handle bar for people like me who will forget to look at the watch. Just hit the button as you start the mower?
Hey LK! There is no on off switch on these hour meters. They are always on and start counting automatically when the engine turns on. I don’t think they make one specifically for the handlebars but you can mount them just about anywhere. Thanks for watching!
@@GarageGear thanks for the info. Appreciate this.
@@LK-bz9sk you got it! 👍
I have a full year on mine and haven’t changed the oil yet. Before I watched this video I ordered oil.
Thanks for watching, Jake!
I just did this and couldn’t believe how much metal was in the oil when I drain it ( brand new mower). Only thing I can add is pick the mower up after you think you have drained all the oil and move it around I got another 2/3 oz’s. out of it. Thanks for the tip.
Pretty remarkable what comes out right! Thanks for watching Roland!
I just bought a Honda HRN216VKAA/B about 4 weeks ago from a local Honda/Yamaha dealer. My previous mower was a Craftsman deck with Honda engine for 20 years. Loved the Honda engine. The mower came assembled and ready to run. I did the first oil change after 30 minutes. Saw your video and put in Super Tech Advanced Full Synthetic 5W-30. Have mowed twice with the synthetic oil. I wrote to Honda about using the synthetic oil in their engine. Honda wrote back and said "No, please use the recommended oil. Honda engines are developed, tested, and certified with petroleum-based motor oils as a lubricant. Any motor oil used in our engines must meet or exceed all oil requirements as stated in the owner's manual to include the recommended oil change intervals." NOW I am really worried. I want my Honda to run the best and last. After 5 hours of use, do I go back to conventional 10W-30 motor oil or stay with the Super Tech Advanced Full Synthetic 5W-30? Please reply....and THANK YOU for your videos.
Hey James! I have used 5w-30 full synthetic for many years in my small engines without fail. Either one would be fine in my book! Thanks for watching
My mantra is to run the first Dino oil fill for the first "heat cycle", about 15-20 minutes. Then still using the cheaper regular oil I will change again at about an hour. Since the regular oil is WAY cheaper than your engine, (~$2.50 per change), you really cannot change the oil too frequently in the first few hours of use, ESPECIALLY with a splash lubrication system. The higher HP engines usually have a pressurized oil system with a filter that should catch the particulates during break in, but, for a splash system 2,3,4 or more oil changes will be better in removing most/all of the sparkles. Additionally, I would still use the regular oil for at least the first 25-50 hours or so to give the engine adequate running time to break in BEFORE using a Full synthetic....
Chickanic says the new Hondas are not good cause if you mulch the grass gets caught in the drive belt under neath due to no shrouding .Mine is exposed and mine is 5 years old but I always bag so the grass doesnt get caught in the drivebelt.
Hey Ray! Saw that but I have never had that issue and always mulch! I would avoid chopping up large sticks or branches !
Great video man ! Love it. Could
I consider my first mow the break in and now just change it and be good ?
@@johnmartin5153 yep that works just fine! Thanks for being a cool fan !
Dude, talk to me more about the synthetic oil you use for your small mower motors! Thanks for the video! Love me some Honda’s!
Hey Dad who mows best! I use 5W-30 full synthetic is every engine I own. It has a wide temperature range. I usually buy a big jug. The one I bought was the Walmart brand. I use all brands as long as it meets the API SN ratings on the jug. I'm friends with a professional small engine mechanic who's got about 40 years of experience. He told me that small engines work best with 5w30 full synthetic. Ever since he told me that years ago that's what Ive been using. The amazon brand is actually very fluid at cold temperatures. I run that in my truck.I use this oil in my mowers, pressure washer, generator, edger, and whenever I do tune ups for people. Works great! Thanks for being an awesome fan of the channel!
@@GarageGear no issues about breaking in with synthetic rather than conventional? I’m an old school V8 engine guy and always broke in my new engines with conventional before switching to synthetic. Thanks for the reply and video sir!
@@1975oldschool that’s a good point I forgot to mention! The oil that comes with this Honda is conventional. So I broke it in with that! Then put in full synthetic! This is a good practice but I have used full synthetic for break ins on small engines before with no issues whatsoever and had those engines for many years. Hope this answers your question!
@@GarageGear 👍🏻 Thanks for the info man!
It is perfectly fine to break-in an engine in with modern synthetic oil, as opposed to he old synthetics. It has evolved and is ok to use. You save a grip at Walmart, buying the bulk jugs (you don't want to go anywhere else).
Check-out Steve's Small Engine Saloon's video on why pump gas is bad for small engines (a little off- topic, but a an eye-opener nonetheless)... Peace!
Thank you. I’m buying one tomorrow and I’ll follow your instructions.
You got it! Congrats on your purchase! Let me know how it goes! 👍
@@GarageGear I just put it together and I swear, it took 3 minutes to take packaging off, fill with oil and unfold it.
@@wolfgreen162 oh yeah! It’s a quick set up! The mower is very light weight too! Enjoy the mow my friend!
Good Video. I can’t understand why they can’t put a oil drain plug in the bottom so you don’t have to tip the mower to drain the oil ?
Thanks a lot Rob! Not sure why either. Thanks for watching my friend!
I did end up having the lever of the mulch/bag move on me from mulch to bag somehow but that was an easy fix.
Overall though man, GREAT mower! And it started on the first pull every time. Have the new oil in it after initially running it so I’ll change it out at the 5 hour mark.
Great videos! Thanks man!
I wonder why the lever moved? Did it move after hitting a big bump or something? The first oil change is important! I’m surprised the manual doesn’t say to do that step. Plenty more videos coming soon! 👍 thanks for watching!
@@GarageGear not sure why the lever moved, maybe I didn’t have it engaged far enough over so I’ll take fault for that one, I’ve already mowed a second time and had no issues with the lever moving on me. Thanks for the videos, keep em coming!
@@jorscorer3344 you got it bud! Keep me posted on the mower’s performance! Plenty more videos coming soon!
Not sure if you will see this post but if you do....Great. I have a question. Can you cut the lawn for 30 mins, and then do oil change and continue. Or should it be at same idle speed for 30 mins? Thanks in advance.
@@alexrodriquez6574 you can do either! I’ve done both over the years. 👍
I mowed once with my honda hrx version then switched out to Amsoil and never looked back. 14 years strong
That’s awesome Jeff! Thanks for sharing! 👍
You can always buy a dirt bike hour meter to help you keep up with actual engine use. They work off engine vibration. They are $20. Have them on my bikes and my HRX. No guess work.
Thanks for sharing
I bought one ran it for the last two years no oil changes i still havent had a Problem
Thanks for sharing jerry
Great video. I think this is the new mower for me. Replacing a Sears Craftsman Briggs And Stratton one I had since 2008. Which I admit I never changed the oil. Just kept topping it off. :). Now I know how to change it!
Awesome TB! Glad you learned something from this video! Can’t go wrong with this mower! Thanks for watching!
When auto restorer mechanics get a new expensive crate engine, I noted that they use a special engine oil just made for the break in. Sometimes the special break in oil comes with the engine. I am guessing that it is not as slippery???
If I am correct, and also being frugal, it may be better to use a decent, less expensive conventional engine oil, for the break in period. More of a break in, and less expensive. Then switch to the 5W30 full synthetic.
My snowblower calls for 0W30 but that isn't usually on the shelves; not a good quality one anyway; not in these parts.
My small inverter generator and my snowblower both need to be able to run in cold weather, so 5W30 Full Synthetic is perfect for both. Can be run in hot weather as well.
I used a good quality conventional 5W30 oil for my break in of both machines, then switched to 5W30 Full Synthetic(same brand). At the very least, I saved some money on the break in. I may also have gotten a slightly better break in, where conventional oil isn't quite as slippery. That's the theory anyway.
I still have quality conventional engine oils in my older summer machines. SAE 30, or 10W30.
I don't mow, or till in winter ;-) Wood splitter, Dad's, gets 10W30 conventional, because it does get used in spring and fall, which can be cold. If this were my machine, it would have full synthetic 5W30 in it...and high test gas with conditioner, etc......I just get to fix it :-(
Thanks for sharing this with the garage gear community! Enjoy the mow this season!
Thanks Mate,
I'll pick up my new HRN216 today!🤩
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My Harbor Freight engine says to run for 20 minutes, then change oil.
Yes they do! ! Thanks for watching
Your right, Honda has no idea what the correct procedure is to break in their own product. They needed you to create the proper guidelines.
Haha sometimes you just gotta break the rules lol! Thanks for watching art!
Hey man, really love your videos! Just bought the same Honda, and followed your steps exactly. One question, where did you get your measuring cup? I like that it has a spout and no handle. Is it plastic?
Hey Keith! I actually found that cup at a yard sale a while back. It is plastic. I’ll have to search that one out on Amazon or something. Bought it new fully sealed lol! Thanks for being a cool fan!
Thanks for the tip mate very good ,Jimmy D ,Aust
Thanks for watching Jimmy!
Thanks for the video. Got a question.... Shouldn't the filter be replaced as well after the initial warmup? I would think some/many of the particles would get snagged in the filter during that initial 20-30 minute runtime which would still be roaming around the engine once you replaced the initial oil. It would also have a few ounces of the non-synthetic oil (with particles) which would be re-introduced to the engine. Thanks.
Hey Jack, there is no oil filter on this mower. Some commercial mowers do have an oil filter and in their case they would have to be replaced. Thanks for watching 👍!
I am ready for a honda mower. I bought the green works pro 80 volt battery. Now getting a loud clacking noise. I think it's ready for the dump...
Can’t go wrong with a Honda! Let me know when you grab one and how you like it! Thanks for watching!
Question, since the engine was still running after the 30 mins past. Is there potential for fuel to leak out when tipping and draining the oil out or is the risk minimize due to some of the fuel being expended
No fuel leaks out because of the design of the gas tank! 👍
Thats really helpful, thanks
@@nathanryu you got it Nathan! 👍
How do you feel about adding an eye dropper full of something like slick 50
Hey John! I’ve never been a big proponent of using additives! I’m a bigger fan of just changing oil more often! Keep it clean! Thanks for watching!
my 20 year old lawn mower and I just watched this video and my lawn mower just asked me what an oil change is.
Lol thanks for watching!😂👍
I have a brand new hrn just like this one. The tension on the cord is tough as shit to pull like it just stops or jerks. However it does start on the first pull but I have 2 of these things, one is silky and easy and smooth the other is not. Any ideas? Revs kinda high too
Thanks for watching, Single Turbo. I don’t know off hand without looking at it. Perhaps you can contact a small engine shop near you and they can look at it. You’ll have to let me know what they find.
Still got a Honda 216 running fine after ten years. Always changing the oil on time and only running ethanol free gas in it.
That’s the way to go Patrick! Great minds think alike! Mowers are expensive. Oil is cheap. Change the oil!
Question for you! Did you have to replace the wheels on it at all yet in ten years?
@@GarageGear I haven't replaced the wheels yet. They are starting to go bald though.
@@pt6998 pretty impressive how long they’ve lasted. Thanks for sharing! 👍
I just bought a Honda HCV 170. I'll use your recommended break-in schedule. Thanks much.
You got it CW!
Does the fuel leak when you too over on its side to change oil. I have that issue constantly with my toro. I just picked this up will be doing this process today. Thanks for sharing. 👍
So far no leaks on mine but you may want to only fill it up half way to avoid that issue. Thanks for watching and congrats on your purchase!
Question. for breaking it in, can you just cut you grass for 30 minutes and then change the oil instead of letting it run in driveway not cutting anything? please let me know as I just purchased this mower today. Thank you, Bob W
Hey Bob! Yes you can mow your yard! I would then change the oil right after! Get the junk out! 👍
Quick question, where do you run the throttle position for the first 30 mins?
On this model there is no throttle adjustment. Turn it on and let it rip. 👍
Pour the whole bottle in and you can easily be overfilled by quite a bit. The amount of oil that's already in the engine varies so be careful not to overfill.
Thanks for sharing!
JB!!! Quick question, the break in process you have for your lawn mowers, should we do that same thing for pressure washers?
Yep works well for all small engines! 👍
Good tip bro, I don't know before that
Thanks for watching rajja!👍
Great video, thanks for the info!
You got it Nomadic! Thanks for watching!👍
Damn I had this mower 2 years and I still got the original oil in it.
Hey Henry probably not a bad idea to change it out lol! Thanks for watching my friend!
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I just saw your video, I put in the oil and mowed the lawn. Is it too late to change it?
@@Banana69999 nope it’s not too late! Go ahead and change it! 👍
Thanks for this! Sick of buying a new mower every year so hoping to learn how to care for this one 🙄
Hey Carla! If you follow this playlist you should have no problem keeping your machine going! Thanks for checking out my channel!
What are you doing to ruin a mower in a year?
@@chris2790 I’ve seen a guy leave gas in it year after year and it wouldn’t start. Every year he just bought a new one.
I bought a Honda lawn mower 8 years ago filled it with oil and have never changed it or checked it and the mower still starts on the first pull and runs like it's brand new
Thanks for sharing
Hi there. The carburetor's screw was too tight and I had to break it to be able to clean the carburetor. Any change you could share the screw's measure? Neither Home Depot or Honda are helping
Not sure what specific carburetor screw you are talking about. You may just want to buy a new carburetor and pop it on.
Save and use the original oil container to fill with new oil. It will be the correct amount ! No need for guessing ! 🤔
Thanks for sharing this tip!
This was very good. Even of you just do the first change at 15 minutes, then yearly thereafter
I use 5w/40, big mistake?
Yep definitely good to do. I would use whatever is Recommended in your owners manual. 👍
@@GarageGear I think that's 10w/30, but does it make that much difference? Same oil as my car you see
@@ChrisPatrick-q6k there are temperature ranges to mindful of depending on your climate. That determines which oil to go with