The Truth About The Ruger 57: 1000 Round Review
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- Опубліковано 14 жов 2024
- The Ruger 57 is a lightweight full size pistol chambered in the 5.7 round. It made a big splash in 2020 but is it right for you?
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1,000 rounds of 5.7 is no small feat, especially in the current environment. Thanks for taking the time and resources to make this content. All the best to you and yours brother.
Cheapest I could find was 1 dollar a round and now they are sold out, its crazy out there
I’d take a Ruger 57 if it weren’t for the ammo prices of 5.7. And general lack of practicality of it for a concealed carry caliber.
It also has a manual safety. 🤮
To be fair, when I started typing this comment I didn’t realize it had an external safety lol.
1000 rnd case 5.56 for $799 a few hours ago
@@donmiller6435 1000 for 449.99 556 55gr Winchester
@@allanryan6014 good for you
I looked at one of these in my local gun shop and the first thing the clerk says when he sees me eyeing it “just so you know I do in fact have ammo for that” 😂😂😂
I know you tube is trying their best to get rid of you. But you are appreciated on this channel
Yes they are trying.. but come January 21st 2021. All these amazing videos will be Gone!! Welcome to the USSA my friend
Amen
Ditto! Defund communism!
@@neverobey1477 Are all the gun channels leaving youtube?
@Little Low, The heads of UA-cam DO have their way, when it comes to content on their platform; and they will continue to, thanks to the crooked and feckless career politicians, that refuse to reign in the social media oligarchs, by failing to rescind their 230 protections. UA-cam and Facebook make their real money from compiling information on users and providing it to the highest bidders. They have allowed gun channels, only for the purpose of gathering intelligence on gun owners.
I won a 57 about a month ago. All said and done I paid $98 with the chances and other fees. I haven't been that excited about something in a long time!
So how'd you like it?
With this low price tag, Ruger made the 5.7 a caliber accessible to almost everyone. The super expensive FN always seemed like an intangible future weapon to me.
It's only about $400 more. You make it sound like $4,000.
Last I checked the FN was $1200. If that's super expensive for you, I'd like to know what color Krylon you spray painted your Hi-Point.
@@andreivaldez2929 $1200 is a good amount of money lol
@@andreivaldez2929 Well, son - I'm a lot older than you it seems and back in 2000 the FN was by far the most expensive pistol, if I remember correctly. One advice I may give you: it is usually not worth to pay twice or thrice the price if the more expensive gun is just 10-15 % better than the cheaper one. The many comparisons between the 600 $ Ruger 5.7 and the (allegedly) 1.200 $ FN FiveSeveN prove it.
@@chubbycatfish4573 The thing is that the handguns that most people buy are closer to $600 like Glocks and stuff. $1200 is certainly premium. For that money, I can get a decent AR or AK. Another $100 and I can get a Dan Wesson 1911. $400 certainly makes the difference in being much more attainable for people.
I've been shooting 5.7 in my FNs for years.
The round is accurately devastating.
Thanks for showing us the Ruger.
I love the 5.7x28 round, it has a lot going for it- even though it is rather a niche round. The issues you experienced can absolutely be attributed to the American Eagle ammunition, as it's purposely download to limit its ability to penetrate body armor with that 40gr. FMJ bullet. Great review, BTW!
American Eagle I use for training rounds. But I think it lacks gun power to push that high tension spring back properly which causes firing malfunctions.
1k rounds of 5.7 in 2020, this is an expensive review. Must watch. LOL
Patron paid for or at least helped. I would hope so
Go donate a dollar on Patreon or wherever he does his donations. It helps with ammo
He took out a second mortgage. :D
At least it wasn't a 9
@@Nobody-11B lol. 9 is more expensive than 57 now. 😂
There is a trigger upgrade. You can also make the trigger reset shorter. They also make extended magazines to hold 25 rounds.
FN has a 10rd extension but not sure if it can be used on the Ruger magazines
I bought 10 round extensions for my FN FiveSeven...so I have 5 30 round magazines for it. When you toss in the 9 50 round magazines I have for my PS90...I can carry 600 rounds at any give moment...overkill? sure, but the way things are today, I'd say it's just enough. I can carry both in my backpack (legal in GA) and ride my motorcycle without worrying about taking care of myself.
@@rvail136 where can I get cheap ammo
How do you make the trigger reset shorter??
@@rvail136bro if you’re carrying 600 rounds on a daily then you need to move to Afghanistan because why would you need 600 rounds just to carry on a daily basis?? 🤦🏿♂️
Everytime I get a new gun I come to your channel first to check for a review. Have yet to be disappointed. Picking my 57 up Saturday. Thank you for the great reviews you do.
Same here. I don't always agree with him but he is a bad ass on the range and Mrs. Outlaw is cool. He had her filming him shooting in a blizzard. She said your patreon contributions are going toward a divorce. Great sense of humor!
SS192 ammo was used in the Ft. Hood shooting to devastating effect. That particular round clocks out of the 5.7 pistol by FN at 2,200 fps.
Given the right ammo (a big if right now) this is a tough weapon system to beat.
There's a certain irony when UA-cam demonetizes you and then runs ads during your videos. If it isn't a gun related ad, there's ZERO chance of selling the product to me.
Used to see sleepy Joe ads on THO videos every single day during the manipulation season I mean election season. So offensive but I forgot we aren’t a protected class because we lean the wrong way politically.
It should be criminal. How can they demonitize a creater and make money off of that same creater.
@@adub1300 Whining in a comment section isn’t going to change anything. Sensitive about politics but tough with a gun. SMH
Yeah, thinking you had a bad mag. I've got about 750 rounds through mine and haven't had a single malfunction. Found it to be one of my most reliable guns tbh.
I can agree but I have a FN
Bad mag feed was my first thought seeing how the round was sitting in the vid
I really believe it is the magazine because my Ruger 57 has the same issue with BOTH of the magazines it came with. Sometimes also, it will shoot the first two or three rounds and the other rounds are stuck and not pushing up because the follower gets stuck. If I take the magazine out and tap it to free the follower, the rounds pop up and a few rounds will fly out of the magazine. And this happens with both of the mags it came with. I lubed both of the mags and it kinda fixed it, as in it the follower doesn't get stuck anymore but the nosedive feeding issue still happens from time to time on both magazines still.
I agree that it's probably a magazine, but it's not a great performance by Ruger. Well, it's better than Kahr, with their 1 in 3 broken mags right out of the factory. But this is Ruger and we expect better.
there has def been some ppl with the first batch guns that complained about one or both mags having some issues. I did see a case where both mags had lips that were slightly either too long or out of spec and was hanging up. As well as one case where one of the mags was either too thin or maybe the mag latch location was out of spec so the mag wouldnt stay in. Mine have been flawless, but I do kinda gripe about how much wiggle the mags have when loaded, I always have to tap on the mag just to make sure its fully seated bc of that amount of wiggle. Love the pistol though and 5.7 is my fav round so when these came out I needed one as my fun toy since I had to sell my p90 a couple years back to get caught up on some bills
I've seen more reliability issues with the 40 grain projectiles, try 34 grain and under ammo. Elite Ammunition makes an awesome round called the "T6B" and Vanguard Outfitters makes an awesome round called the "Black FANG-OBSIDIAN dragon" if you were interested in defense loads in 5.7x28mm. I'd love to see more videos of people reviewing the 5.7x28mm weapon systems using loads like the T6B and the Black Fang
I have the vanguard amazing ammo elite all is very hard to find both are armor piercing the only issue with the Ruger is when u feed tha mag needs to be very careful loading bcz load as a m4 mag
@@gadiel_ytpr4455 I agree, have to load the mags correctly
Carried the FN 5.7 as my duty pistol for over 8 years. With 40 grain SS197 V-max ammo, no failures ever. Only pistol I ever carried that put down injured deer with one shot, every time. Everyone speculates about its stopping power, my real world results on live mammals speak for themselves. Trusted it with my life.
What area did you shoot the deer?
@@yupyup4209 head shots by the ear, mostly. Shot a few through the lungs, if their head was thrashing around.
@@jefflinsker351322lr does equally as well. A shot slightly behind the ear drops a 200+ lb hog in its track with a 22lr.
Just picked up a new 57 for $620! was happy
Good deal!
Just saw one for $ 579
Yeah man they started out way too pricy
@@aaronsmith7535 the one ad on reddit is OOS and back to 679 unfortunately.
I have not seen one ever. So I saw it, and bought it. Now I’m ready to reload ammo for it
No problems with feeding, definitely haven't shot a thousand rounds yet, more like 300 +. Mounted a Burris Fastfire 2 on it. And holsters are becoming available, mostly through Ruger. With the flat trajectory, 20 rd. magazine capacity, and a Burris sight. It is about as close to a belt carried rifle as you can get.
check out alien gear holsters they have them. got one for my FN FiveSeven. its amazing
I'm up to 450 rounds of American Eagle I have shot through mine lol. Times are rough and at basically a dollar a bullet. Life is ruff lol
The ballistics of the round leaves larger wound channels than a 9mm, 10mm, .45, and .357. The bullet dies at about 12 inches of ballistics jelly. It is a very low liability round. Kill your target, and not anything behind it. It's an AWESOME carry. Lot's of damage, low liability, lot's of rounds in a mag.
Actually, the 5.7 can get up to about 16 inches with loads like the FN ss198lf's and ss195lf's.
They can reach velocities ranging from 1976 to 2150 fps out of a Ruger 5.7 and even higher out of a 8" AR
I agree with both Rex and Larry on this. For common ball rounds with lead core like American eagle or other more common practice type of rounds at a lower cost (comparatively for the cost of a 5.7), Rex is 100% right, the round tends to dump a lot of energy very quickly. It can fragment and tumble. This tends to produce a large wound cavity, without over penetrating, maximizing pain and reducing an enemies ability to stay in the fight. I don't think the 5.7 adds extra lethality unless you consider reduced recoil and flatter flight dynamics that allow a skilled marksman a better than average chance of putting a kill round on target after a center mass hit.
Larry is definitely right that rounds that are not lead cores, like the ss198lf, have ballistics closer aligned to how FN designed the round for military use. Civies will never get the steel/aluminum armor piercing cores, but when the core of the bullet is a firmer substance then lead with lower chances of deformation or fragmentation because of its thin size, that quick dump of energy goes away. A major secondary component is the higher velocity as well. Further, armor piercing abilities return, especially with the swarm of bees approach, and you see that 12+ inch penetration rate the FBI requires reliably return.
It's a versatile round. You get near home defense type of returns on lead bullets on the lower spectrum of bullet quality (large wound cavities and reduced over penetration) and better armor piercing functionality (within approximately 35 yards) and common penetration for non lead core rounds. Unfortunately the 5.7 remains one of the least understood rounds despite NATO's standardization of the cartridge. Just wish it cost less lol
@@zacholicious1060
I am always grateful when someone correctly describes the rounds capabilities. It's not really a rifle round, it's not really a pistol round, it's happily somewhat of both. Excellent cartridge.
I also hear it has something like 30% less recoil than 9mm so it must be like shooting a laser beam...
@@happyjohn354 shoots like buttuh. 200 meter effective range if you fire the round out of a carbine.
I've had the FN 5.7 for a long time now. ZERO malfunctions and until the pandemic I was buying American Eagle (Federal) for $17.00 a box of 50. Yes I paid a lot for the pistol but it was the only one one the market. I think it's great Ruger came out with this pistol and more affordable for most. Ruger has had many years to figure out what people didn't like about the FN and manufacturing cost have improved over the years. For it's intended use the caliber has just as much effectiveness as handgun calibers commonly use against humans. PS 90 is a great choice also. No I won't sell my FN 5.7 just because Ruger is less expensive.
Many don't understand how lucky FN owners are, but we know
Agreed, good option but I’ll stick with my FN - zero issues and damn accurate. Maybe less accurate with the Federal vs the FN Ammo IMO.
I doubled down and built an AR 57 to go HAM during the Zombie apocalypse😎.
FN57 on my hip to hold me over till I can get to my ps90
I honestly prefer controls on the ruger though, I also much prefer the sights on the ruger.
@@kendean2119 glorious bastard!
I worked for a firearms wholesaler out of Ohio when this round was first offered by FN. The original ammo was a whole lot faster than the current offerings. The Atf was all over it because with the steel tip bullet. Ran almost 2700 fps out of the pistol. The current offerings are downloaded considerably.......though I suppose one could reload it to it's original specs. European LE agencies and military who use 5.7x28 utilize the original loadings.
Hate to say it, but I can’t much blame the ATF for that. Bullets that can easily penetrate the body armor of cops is not something most people would want to see on the market.
dload... you missed a spot, see- right there alongside the left heel
@@noretreat151 please enlighten me.
@@DLordSadow bootlicker. Officer safety has nothing to do with our rights as law abiding citizens. Forget the fact that congress could easily pass a law (still an infringement) if it were that much of a concern.
@@SR-wz2iv Our rights to weapons aren’t unlimited. You can’t legally own a .50cal machine gun, a 155mm howitzer, AA gun, SAM battery, or a nuclear weapon. It’s not an infringement of our rights to update laws restricting what kind of weaponry people have access to. We have the right to bear arms yes, but no one in their right mind (which might or might not apply to you) thinks that means the government can’t put some limits on what kind of weapons civilians can have. Then again, maybe you feel that US citizens should have access to WMDs and weaponry who’s sole purpose is mass murder. That seeing scores of innocents slaughtered is acceptable because nothing can stand in the way of having anything you want.
i've carried an FN five seven for over fifteen years. got a stellar deal on it back in the day. i've put so many boxes of ammo through that gun i can't even keep track. 1 jam, and i shoot it once a month minimum. it's been through hell and back. at first I thought an overpriced airsoft pistol and even a smaller caliber. wouldn't sell or trade for anything now. she's beat up but still accurate, and reliable.
I just bought one of these yesterday. Gun reviews are relative to the user's experience but I am glad you gave it a thorough breakdown so I am not surprised if I run into some of the same issues you found. I appreciate your honest content
For those who care about this sort of thing, the Streamlight TLR-1, while older, fits perfectly flush at the end of the muzzle, which gives the whole package a nice complete look.
I carry the ruger 57, and I do it just fine. I use the urban carry holser and I personally think that the pistol is great, I had used it before when someone tried to steal my bike when I was riding and the gun worked like a charm, I love the ruger 57!
Dang! Stay safe man.
@@drkaymotorsportshad the same thing happen to me. I was riding my horse down the highway next to my buddy on horse and buggy and some dudes tried to jack him, off to the side where I was I pulled the double barrel and then switched to my Ruger 57 flawlessly.
I've had the same feeding malfunction with mine, went to only loading 19 rounds and no issues sense. You can get additional magazines, they're about $25 each. I've had my Ruger 57 for about 4 months, twice I've been able to order 500 rounds of American Eagle from an online retailer. I've also was able to pick up FN in the 27 gr and 40 gr ballistic tip. As far as I can recall my only failures have been when putting in a new mag with the slide locked, only loading 19 rounds fixed that. Now, to be fair I've only put about 300 rds thru it.
I had the same issues i went out to woods with 2 twenty round mags and they failed every time with 20rds but 19rds is perfect. I bet with time the feeding issue goes away as the internals of both gun and mag break in. iv only run 20o rounds so far.
Your timing is always impeccable. I was just researching this gun and watching your first video about it. Great review as always man!
Ammo is impossible to find right now. If you want to own one to own one, have at it, otherwise, I’d think about chilling for a bit. This stupid scare is ruining the gun industry
Man this is my newest truck gun. I can steady plink a mass sillouette at 60-75yards. This gun is a tack driver! I’ve only ran about 300 rounds through it so far
Just saying, we will all be “Honest Outlaws” soon, literally. Love the channel. Awesome content.
It isnt over yet man. Its a long shot but theres still hope
Stay true, stay real.
There are others like us.
When freedom is outlawed, only outlaws will be free.
In 3 years we'll see how well this prediction ages....
So many people talk shit about the effectiveness of the 5.7. They should see what it does to coyotes. I have taken dozens of them with both my Five-seven and PS90. It has performed fantastic.
Also feel free to reference the Ft. Hood shooting which sadly showed the effects of this round.
The 5.7x28 is such an underrated round. High capacity, low recoil, flat shooting, it’s not like a big heavy thumper like 10mm or 45 aarp, but there’s a time and place for all of these
I haven't had any reliability issues with mine and mine is still considered part of the first batch, but I agree 100% with your assessment of the trigger, it was causing me to hit left and low for the first 100 rounds if I was trying to go faster than 1shot/sec and it took me a while to realize why, I have abnormally long fingers for my hand size so guns always fit my hand weird.
With the lack of availability of ammo and the price of the ammo will be the reason for waiting to buy. Great video and sounds like a fine firearm. Hope you had a great Thanksgiving 🍖🦃🥧.
Thanksgiving...makes me wonder how the 5.7 would do against turkeys.
@@kirk2767 same as a really slow 223
it's really fussy to reload I will stick with my 9s...
I bought one as soon as I saw one in stores. It got down to .35 cents a round before covid happened. American Eagle producing it made all the different ammos go down. Never knew which kind of round was gonna be cheap at which store, but there were regularly a couple boxes for .35 cents a round. Not now that the covid thing happened though.
Picked up a used one with 4 mags,and nearly 700 rnds for a grand,frickin happy, especially if the shtf soon
Do you have a C39V2. Best century arms ak ,and my favorite
Would be interested to see a long range accuracy comparison of this gun vs the FK BRNO 7.5
Anything with more mass and more velocity will hold better ballistics over range
The 5.7 and the 7.5 aren't even close to being able to be comprared
The 5.7 is not in the same league.
@@mehicanbls1526 Ah, I was thinking the 5.7 was designed to be more of a long range pistol, but I'm mostly seeing that piercing armor was the purpose.
@@jonmiller948 especially with the ss192 & ss195 rounds. Only thing comparable is the ss198LE round. Both the AE 40gn and the blue tip ss197 do not compare to the original banned rounds
I have shot around 500 American Eagle rounds and around 500 FN rounds so far. Only failures I had was with American Eagle. FN rounds seemed very reliable. I had so.e of the V Max and some 27 grain FN rounds.
Paul Harrell reviewed this pistol early this year and his Ruger57 he said was much more reliable than his FN57. He also complained about the trigger.
The seconds versions of FN57's are extremely reliable. I think the first batch in the US was kinda suspect.
The American Eagle TMJ and SS197SR Vmax are both loaded in the US by Fiocchi USA (as well as the Gold Dot), using the FN brass. Both SS197SR and AE TMJ are less than reliable with wide velocity variations that have been dialed backed over the years.
The 27gr LF is the real performer in 5.7x28. I was fortunate to have built up my stash before this mess all started. Have a nice pile of all the available loadings, except for the new Hornady load.
Your opinions mean a lot to me. I was considering this 5.7 but you just saved me some money. BTW I bought the FX-9 based on your review i love it! Take care and keep up the objective reviews
The trigger is described as "pre cocked double action" The trigger at the end of travel still pulls the hammer back and down to fire :D
Right out of the box had problems with failure to load and failure to feed at times and just kept doing it, so I called Ruger and they told me the ship it back to them and they will take care of it or give me a new gun. Ruger customer service is top-notch, the best in the business and that's one of the reasons why I love Ruger firearms. I own several and this is the first issue I've had with one. But nice to know that they will make it right.
My local gun store currently only has 10mm, .32 ACP, .44 Magnum and 5.7 ammo in stock. I may need to pick up one of these Rugers!
@Nicholas Bumgardner Not a bad idea!
If you're gonna get this, just get a FN, the ruger has a world of safety problems look it up.
They have 10mm🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯 how much?
@@averageguyreviews311 I bought a box of Blazer for around $20. It was basically market price. They also have some self defense grade stuff like Sig V Crown from time to time.
@@Pancho_III Im not going to say that I dont believe you but I have seen nothing but great things about the Ruger on UA-cam. Of course, Ive been sold before on UA-cam gun reviews and ended up buying a firearm that was less than mediocre.
Great review on the 57 by Ruger.
I am a 57 owner too. Love it!!
I have hopefully useful info /answers to 2 of your questions...
But here goes:
1) You asked about if the mag release is ambitious. YES. There's instructions in the owners manual on how to remove it from one side and swap it to the right side for lefties. So really, save the slide release, the gun is mostly a ambidextrous gun. If they had a slide catch/ release on both sides it would be 100% ambidextrous.
OK:
2) You asked about a trigger upgrade... well, there is a GREAT one.. It's by a company that's made Ruger trigger mods for years and they do it well... lTANDEMKROSS!!! That's what you need. It only about $60 bucks. It's Aircraft grade Al and cnc machined...black anodizing or its available in red if you rather. I choose black. Their trigger is a great upgrade. It's much improved over the stock trigger on the 57. It gives user adjustable post and pre-travel and gives this gun a totally different purchase on their trigger. Its face is flat with a nice "knurl" like texture to it and it's just a slightly longer triggrr that gives the perception of a lighter trigger pull by giving you a slightly better leverage against the spring.. (like a breaking bar with a pipe over it).
I highly recommend this trigger upgrade. I did the install myself, a little tricky but TANDEMKROSS has a great video on the install which recommend you watch, twice if needed.
I wish I could include a few pics or short video to let you see..
Take care and I Love your channel.. you give sound advice and seem genuine.
You should review the BRNO FK 7.5mm PSD pistol. The make a 7500$ big brother that's all steel but the PAD is it's $1650 dollar synthetic lower version of the same gun. It may be the last Pistol I buy. It comes with a 9mm +p+ rated barrel too. It racks like the slide is on ball bearings!!! It's amazing. With it 7.5mm proprietory round made just for this gun by BRNO and it can easily penetrate IIIA armour at 25 yards and still leave a grape fruit sized cavity in clay blocks after going through a full 7.62x39 metal mag and the armor behind the 7.62x39 filled AK mags in front. MAC does a fantastic review of this gun.
2000 fps muzzle velocity... it can carry the force energy a 45APC round has at 25 yards but it hits that hard at 50 meters/yards .
Chk it out. You can order a 10mm/.40 s&w barrel too.
It comes with the extra 9mm barrel. 7.5mm ammo is about 60$ a box. The se area in cost of 5.7x28mm ammo.
Also CMMG has a new product..
The 1st civilian gun that shoots 4.6mmx30mm that the h&k mp7 uses. Talk about expensive ammo.
The sell a pistol version (8" barrel) (banshee), a Carbine (16" barrel) and a rifle with a 20" barrel. All are in the $1300-1600$ price range...
Lastly, you need to chk out the Alien 9mm by LAUGO ARMS Czechoslovakia.
Its a hybrid delayed blowback/ gas impingement operating system with a fixed barrel and the slide is short stroke and operates/moves below the top plate the sights are mounted. Thus the sights never move as the gun ooerates!!!
Its $ 5000 price tag puts it out of reach for me. The barrel is the lowest in the gun I've seen. When holding the Pistol, the barrel is BELOW Your thumbs. The recoil is straight back into your palm almost. It's crazy. It's awesome.
I dont have a comment on its reliability but if it does well over the next few years and if the price comes down, I'd love to own one but it too, like the steel lower version of that BRNO 7.5mm field pistol, is just crazy expensive.
I hope you read this and I hear in future episodes that you read this and those reviews of those 2 Czech made pistols plus updates to potential 57 Ruger owners, the info on the ambidextrous mag release and that trigger upgrades are out there and affordable.
Again.. Love you channel..keep it up. Happy holidays to you and your wife!!
Sincerely, Daniel.
I'm still waiting for someone to release a trigger upgrade for this.
There is a trigger upgrade.
Tandemkross makes the Victory for it
After feeling one IRL, I went for the FN. much preferred the trigger & feel of the FN. plus, with the Ruger out, the FN prices dropped hard. Win, win!
@Punished Aniquin That is one reason I roll with Glocks
Yeah, you're right. All those people participating in shooting competitions that use aftermarket triggers need to learn how to shoot, too.
I have one of these and can confirm it is by far the loudest gun I own
I've had mine for 2 months and at first with federal ammunition there were malfunctions. changed to fiocchi range dynamics 40gr and ran 15rds per mag until maybe 100rds then 20rds with no malfunctions all the way through approximately 600rds. once it "broke in" it you could go slow or rapid or mag dump up to 5mags in 40seconds it was flawless. I like hitting steel at 75-80yds then switch to a target at 25yds and have 5rds in a 1.5 inch circle. I do have a vortex venom that I love. I found an ar vertical hand grip with bypod that helps me "cheat" at steel just past 100yds. That's fun. I like your reviews and your honest and genuine. I just want to tell how mine was. Discouraging at first then woohoo. Still not my carry but getting closer.
Good review, thanks for keeping it honest when some don't.
Watching this video cause like a lot of us 1000 rounds of 5.7 is a very expensive thing to do in this time period. We thank you sir from the bottom of our magazines to the end of our barrels!
Only put 100 rounds through mine no malfunctions. My fn57 when i first got it got a few double feeds
Perhaps do a 2k round review in a year or so when your able to procure different kinds of ammo. Particularly FNs brand of 57 ammo
the issue with the reliability is due to the American Eagle ammo.
In my FN FiveSeven and PS90 the only issues I've ever had was due to the AE ammo, its garbage! only good for doing malfunction drills at the range.
I saw subsonic hollowpoints in 5.7x28mm from RR went through ballistic gel up to 14in with nice large wound channel similar in size to a 9mm channel it averaged 900fps and opened up in 4 petals allowing for the large wound channel
Just bought a Ruger 5.7 last week. Took it to the range today for the first time and on the 7th round through the gun basically all of the intervals exploded. Lots of shrapnel dropped out of it the second I dissembled the firearm. And no it was not bad ammo or an ammo issue that caused this. Hopefully Ruger can see exactly what happened when I send it back.
Dang the 7th round what kind ammos?
So what did Ruger say? Sounds like it was definitely ammo related. To use your words, internals all being blown up. Sounds like a double charged round.
@@LOMROB you probably didn't use factory ammo and if you used reloads that can happen
You ever hear from ruger about what happened
palmetto state armory has a 50 count box of ammo of for less than $40. I edc the Psa rock and I love the 5.7. Accurate at 180 yards. Would recommend this caliber
I put 500 rounds in mine and I can’t definitely say the malfunctions are only with Speer Gold Dot and American Eagle ammo. This gun only likes to be fed FN sporting rounds. The feed ramp also hates any hollow point ammo due to its feed angle.
True
I'm not sure what is going on with 5.7x28 prices, but as of 5 minutes ago on Ammo Seek 1,000 rounds of 5.7x28 cost $1799.95. If I have to use my Five-Seven or PS90 for self defense, I'm asking the Coroner for my bullets back to reclaim the lead :)
It holds 20 tho a 50 box is 20 full standards and 10 in a standard and thats of 5.7 thats definitely enough
During the slide lock failure I thought Mrs Outlaw was going to say "hurry up, they're getting closer."
When you load your mags correctly yiu don't have slide lock failure. I've run multiple mags through mine and it's never malfunctioned. After a few mags the sl8de release gets easy and isn't as stiff. Butvi do use good ammo and not federal
I would love for them to come out with a compact smaller version
Thanks for the review. I was looking at the Ruger 57 last evening at my local Rural King, priced at $688. It is a really nice looking hand gun, extremely light and a very impressive 20+1. You mention difficulty finding a holster for it. My EDC is a Ruger SR40c. I carry it in a FOXX Kydex Hybrid IWB holster. I was comparing the 57 with my SR40c and they are almost identical in size except for the length. The 57 is about 1-1/2" or so longer in length but considerably lighter than my SR40c. The Ruger 57 was a perfect fit in my FOXX Kydex Hybrid IWB holster.
I was strongly considering purchase of the 57 but the guy warned me that he had no ammo for it and hardly ever got any ammo for it. My thoughts... it is almost like carrying an AR in your belt.
Thanks again, Great video.
Started looking at these early in the year, but after doing research, went with the 22TCM instead (5" double stack 1911). Love it.
I just ordered my 57 today!.. been watching alot of videos about it, i’ve plotting on the purchase of this for a few months now and its official.. got it for $643 too 😊
I'm waiting for the CZ showdown.
P07 The Champ
P01 The Challenger
Wow you got this backwards lol
@@jeremybrillhart5870 One would think that.
I have a CZ P07 97B Sp01,
My friend has a P01.( Its prettier)
P07 Less snappy just as reliable and mabey a bit flatter shooting.
But the main reason I said that is because honest Outlaws carry guns been a po7 for a long time probably the champ with him. And I don't doubt if it wins
@@tahertz8544 I'm still waiting for the CZ P-10 S review. It's really the only firearm from CZ which Honest Outlaw hasn't reviewed and I'm thinking it's due to his large hands. This is because it's very similar to a Glock 26 grip which doesn't give him a good purchase on the firearm, if it doesn't have an extended base plate added on to any of the mags. However, it typically is my daily carry. It's still about 29-30 oz loaded, (33-34 oz with extended base plate mags) but mine is dead accurate, and the idea that with extended mags or not, I can flex it between a Glock 26 or Glock 19 size for carry by a simple mag swap, which really is why it's my favorite carry, and I also own both the Sig P365 and the SA Hellcat. Petition to see the P-10 S too please?
@@roguemaster007 it may be because they're kind of hard to find compared to the rest of the CZ's.
But I'm sure it's a Shooter.
CZ P-01. 7-52-365!
No minor point that I noticed (and appreciated) the static background on your review ! Very smart !
FEED PROBLEMS: The owner of ELITE ammo says leaving the magazines fully loaded for a month or two will cure any feed problems. He uses a "57" for ammo testing.
BTW, others have found the FN Five SeveN LESS reliable than the RUGER 57.
TIP: Paint the back of the hammer white so you can instantly tell if it is cocked. If uncocked you cannot see the white surface.
Two years old... Would love to see you reassess in spring 2023.
My Ruger 57 is about a year old, but I have only shot 300 rounds thru it. The first box of 50 was jam after jam. Then I discovered that the way you load the magazine can make a significant difference. If you push the round straight down (don't slide them in). They seem to feed much better in the gun. 300 rounds are not enough to make a final judgment, but I have not experienced a jam in the last 150 rounds loading it this way. Overall, I am pretty satisfied with the gun. I did not buy it for carry; I bought for fun at the range. Would I carry the 5.7? Well, not sure. I normally carry my 1911 (45) or my CZ SP01 (9mm). I guess I just like making a bigger hole !
I held 1 of these at a Bass Pro Shop here I Garland Texas, & VOWED to buy 1, & pray that I can find ammo for it, also that they make a concealed carry size as well!
I think it's funny that the 5.7 is advertised as this "amazing round" that destroys armor but the 7.5fk (ironically the inverted number) actually is everything the 5.7 claims to be
Except small...
That is in no way irony.
@@davidgill3356 I mean, it's like rain, on your wedding day...
@@davidgill3356 so you don't think that it's ironic that the 7.5 is literally the opposite of everything the 5.7 is?
It's actually effective, devastating, worth existing in a pistol platform.
Idk I think it's a poetic irony that it worked out that way
But your hearing a review of the caliber that is low grade, go watch the FN 5.7 with T6B rounds. The FK Brno doesn't do anything different than a 9mm, it pokes a hole doesn't tumble or anything special far as wounds go.
Also I have a FN 5.7 and their built better than this piece of shit, that have horrible safety features (you should never carry the ruger 5.7), as well as almost never hearing of malfunctions from the FN 5.7
Great video, I'm looking to buy my first gun and this is the main one I've been looking into so this video really helps. Any updates on how you feel about this gun? Any top 5 recommended for looks, reliability, and beginner friendly?
When are you gonna shoot the 22 TCM? They always compare it to the 57. Somebody send @Honest Outlaw a test unit!
I have both the 22 tcm and the 5.7. I can't find ammo to shoot the 5.7. I really like the tcm. Definitely need ear protection with it. Paul harrel has reviewed them both together he liked the tcm.
In many tests, the .22TCM is better than 5.7
the 22 TCM 9R deserves some love too! practically a 5.7 that fits into 9mm mags
Like James West in his videos,my TCM 22r9 locks up alot, UNLESS I squeeze several drops of mil tech oil down the barrel every other mag,then it's my buddy, I ordered 150 rnds from armscor almost ready for my monthly Monday gunday 🤫
2 notes for your jamming issue, first the American eagle is a solid copper point that does not feed as well as the vmax fn ammo (plastic tip filled hollow point) and second the mag if not loaded correctly with the last round or mashing in the 21 round (yes it will fit) will jam. I have run over 1k rounds thru mine and have had only the feed issue with the AM eagle when the last round loaded is not seated correctly in the mag. Another interesting note is the AM eagle ammo has a higher velocity then the FN ammo blue tip (2200 vs 1700) in my tests.
gotcha, I appreciate the feedback, unfortunately Federal AM Eagle is the only thing I can find. I had issues with the Kel Tec PMR 30 mag when I first got it, a loader fixed that problem. Hopefully the ammo variety in my area improves soon, thanks again.
I've had mine since summer. Got about 200 rounds, mostly practicing drawing from concealment while activating the safety in single shots. This is my first manual safety pistol, I felt that kind off practice would be important.
It's certainly not a comfortable AIWB pistol! I carry this mostly OWB. I sometimes go IWB, depending on the level of concealment required.
What will I do with my Chiappa Rhino!?
You gotta check out the PSA Rock 57! Do a comparison between the Ruger and PSA.
Another example of watching an HO video that made me more informed about a gun, but also more conflicted on buying one.
I felt the same when I came across the FN when it 1st came out at $799.. After reading up on it, I rushed back to the shop knowing what I was going to soon own
If you can get ammo , buy it. I love mine.
He left out significant information. The 5.7 round was specifically designed to out perform 9mm and be able to be used in a pistol and SMG and penetrate body armor. Kentucky Ballistics does a comparison with the 5.7 and other calibers. the 5.7 created a much bigger damage channel than the other calibers. It will go in the size of a pencil and create a tube of damage almost 2 inches in diameter. The larger calibers will go through a target (human/ ballistics gel). Where the 5.7 might not, but will do far more damage to internal organs literally ripping them apart.You get shot in the stomach with the 5.7 you will most likely die within minutes. where a 9mm, 40, or 45 cal you would survive.
I shot 200 rounds FN no issues. I know it’s not a thousand but when I paid 70$ a box. I wasn’t running a thousand. I think this is an interesting round and Ruger needs to make a better drop in trigger and night sights. Definitely feels like a 22lr. And rounds go quickly. Good review
It would be pretty awesome if they come out with a 1911 handgun but with this ammo. I'm curious to how the industry will adopt this round after it opens back up.
Easy. It won't.
The round was designed to to ONE thing. Penetrate kevlar out of a blowback SMG. 1. Civilians can't get that ammunition. 2. 9mm AP rounds penetrate kevlar just as well and have better terminal ballistics, so any military that wants AP capability would just field 9mm AP ammunition.
The terminal ballistics are inadequate for self defense. You might as well take a 32 auto and get the benefit of increased consealability.
Small game hunting with a handgun? Neither, Ruger or FN, of these pistols are really built or suited to that task.
Ammunition capacity? It holds 3 more rounds than the competition.
The round itself is nearly impossible to handload for several reasons. The special coating on the cases being required for proper function in P90 type magazines. You also effectively have to hand weigh every powder charge on a balance scale due to how unforgiving it is with powder charge weight. Normal powder dispensing equipment and digital scales are not precise enough.
If anything, it would be fun to see the 7.62x25 make a comeback.
None of this is directed at you personally, just at the idea that 5.7 will ever be anything more than a boutique round.
What you want to buy expensive ammo?? Wow!!
Why would you put such a cutting edge round in such an outdated platform?
Yes, had a new ruger 57 fired 150 rounds and had same jamming issue as you. It seems to be less prone when you manually release the slide hard.
Another damn great video! You’ve got great skills! Until seeing you shoot, on your videos. I didn’t think much about people making accurate pistol shots, at distances of 100 yards plus. I always figured, that was rife range! When I was in the army, I qualified expert with the 1911. But the distances of the targets, weren’t anywhere near as far away as 100 yards! I don’t remember anymore, but I don’t think they were much over 25 yards. Just gauging off you shooting on your range, while I’m watching all your videos. I’ve become a big time fan of your channel, in the last year and half. I’m now wheelchair bound, and am trying to retrain myself to shoot a pistol at defense ranges. I never thought I would spend a year, watching gun channel videos. Watching and reading on Google/UA-cam sights, about weapon safety issues. The only gun I had owned sense leaving the army, was a Ruger 10/22. Which I gave to my son-in-law a couple years back. Because my body is so jacked up, I can’t hold a 10/22 correctly. How would I ever be able to take aim, with an M10 or M16 again? Plus the fact I had promised myself, I would never kill another person after leaving the army! So I truly hope my G2c and G3c, only get fired for fun and training! Well I just realized it’s 0422 and I’m writing a damn book. Outlaw, don’t change your channel’s format! Hell I might join that Patreon, to get your premium channel. You and your lady take care, and be cool! Be Safe!
The Honest Outlaw is the Best Handgun reviewer on the planet
Nice review. I like my 5.7. Fun to shoot. Too bad the ammo is hard to come by and accessories are scarce, but at least (for now) we can purchase firearms and enjoy them.
Just bought one off my co-worker he never loaded it or shot a single round 10 day wait period here I'm very stoked I already own a Ps90... So fun...
Have you done a review with the FN57?
I just got one myself and like it. so far Iv only put 200 rounds through it and had no problems. accessory market it wider now. there are extended slide and mag releases, with base pads. you get threaded barrels for suppressors and optic plates. I like it but ammo is pricey buts all ammo now.
I really like Mrs. Outlaw. She's pretty cool in my book.
@KIng Daddy Rabbit nah. I mean no disrespect to the man's wife. I like both of them quite well. My kinna people.
@@kanekadn5533 lmao 😂
I have the Ruger 57 and had no issues with any ammo I have run.
I've used the American Eagle, the FN brand no issues so far. I got it about 4 months ago. Maybe run 400 rounds through.
Canik TP9 Elite Combat Executive review please.
I wish he had a vid on ALL of the TP9 variations and what's different about them all.
Scotch and GB Guns both have excellent reviews on all the Caniks.
Sootch **
Thanks everyone.
@@GNaj617 Man, that made me laugh, that was cool.
Your reviews are top notch, you are an incredible shooter. I use your videos to make my purchases. Thank you.
I came to see what you thought of the sights on these. I made just about every sight put on these guns.
I went from carrying a xdm 10mm with extended & ported barrel to the Ruger 57 and I'm enjoying the ruger being lighter and holding 20 rounds compared to 16+1 10mm. I'm mostly Def from a AK so the loudness of the 57 isn't a down side for me. The down side for me is the ruger doesn't penetrate as deep as the 10mm but the 5.7x28 extends my reach easily out past 50 yards. Finding ammo for the 57 isn't a problem for me I have 5 local shops who all carry ammo for it and have some in stock during this plandemic. I am paying $74 for a box of eagle, $84 for FN Hornaday V-Max and $100 for FN green tip. I picked up the Ruger 57 new at a local gun shop on my birthday for $640 out the door so I can't complain much about ammo prices for it
The price of 1k rounds for the civilian market is different from what people pay when you tied in I’m sure outlaw has some strings
Thanks for the review! Any interest in comparing it to the PSA Rock 57?
Got me a 57. Damn you're not kidding about the ammo. I paid $100 for 50 rounds.
Here it is May of 2021 and the gun shop I always deal with and no one else had some 5.7 by 28 ammo for $35 for a box of 50.
I have had mine about two years. I have only shot fn and fiochi. I've had zero failures. It's a fantastic gun. I agree the trigger is its weakest Pont. I'm hoping apex makes one soon.
Sounds like the same ammo price as 9mm right now...
Price now is a buck per round.
Not sure where you guys live but if you have a Dunhams store, thats where to get ammo. My Dunhams is selling blazer 9mm for 29 cents a round when it's in stock which is about once a week. Damn good price!
I have about 250 rounds thru my Ruger 57 and havent had any issues with it. I did have one ammo failure that had nothing to do with the gun. The round seperated from the case in the mag. Outside of that it has been perfect.
I love the gun and I have elite ammunition T6B for it. If someone makes an awesome trigger for it I'll be picking it up.
suppose to adjust the sights with different grains of ammo, and Perfect weapon for self and home defense. Using Vmax fn ammo no issues at all. Just as reliable as your over rated glocks.
You should make a side channel (just like so many youtubers have side vlog channels now a days) and name it "1000 Round Reviews" or "1000 Round Mayhem", I don't know. You could have play lists for each firearm (or even crossbows and compound bows if you are into that kind of thing) and have the guns reviewed at 100 rounds, 300 rounds, 500 rounds, 700 rounds and 1000 rounds (make a video for each perhaps). You could even make categories (Rifle, Carbine, Pistol, Revolver etc) and list the problems you faced and a summary of your analysis (something graphical maybe). You could also give us an expert advice on which gun wins in each category and why its the best bang for your buck. I remember Iraqveteran started gun videos called "How far will a so and so kill" (man that was a great series of videos), so you can perhaps start something like "how many rounds is a Mossberg 500 Reliable for". May be your channel will really take off fast with such a series. I am just thinking out loud, any ways nice video and sorry for the long comment.
Check out the tests of the machined bullets. Absolutely devastating. Blowing through vests and even going through a ballistic helmet in the front ,then through the ballistic gel head and then blasted a nasty hole through the back of the helmet with a nasty hole!!!! I would not to be on the wrong end of this round in this pistol.
indeed. If you're referring to the Elite T6B, or Dev 2.0/3.0 or Black Dragon Fang, that's where the 5.7 is at.
Excellent review, it is still a very niche weapon, I used to caretake an 850 acre property, with camps, it was not posted an used by the public for walking, hunting & fishing. This would have been the perfect handgun for my “patrols” , light weight, big enough to look serious for the two legged users and potent enough for any four legged pests, with 20 rounds to boot! For $799 my 4” GP100 would have had to keep soldiering on
Can you do an update on your fnx45 tactical? I just put one on layaway so I'm kinda daydreaming about it 😅😅