My Grandfather bought a shop after ww2. All of my uncles and cousins worked in that shop for 25 years. He took on the troubled teens from the highschool. Have them skills they could use. My gandfather was of the old ways. You did a job and you did it right. You told the truth, You didn't scam people. I remember playing at the shop and hearing them explain to customers they only needed a $10 part after they were told by another shop it would be hundreds if not thousands. Happened all the time. People knew my family. They knew they could trust what we said. I remember when he closed that shop at 79 years old the industry was so corrupt none of my uncles or cousins wanted to stay in the industry because they were unwilling to bend on the morals my Gandfather instilled in us all. People like you are rare sir. I think your videos are awesome. You remind me of the good ole days when people cared about each other and helped each other out because it was the right thing to do. You remind me of him. He's been gone 6 years and I miss him everyday. Thank you for who you are, for what you do, for taking me back to summers spent at that dusty greasy amazing little 4 stall shop. =)
I agree. That's how I run my business. I start with fresh keen bright kids and train then right from scratch. Don't hire many with much experience because they can be half trained, bad habits etc. Easier to start from scratch. Train them right. We don't make a lot of money but we all make a living working for repeat customers who trust us.
Well said Kim D.. your Grandfathers spirit lives on ,,in people like Uncle Tony.. remember UA-cam has straight, no bs,honest people too,, not all,..crap-artists,,.
I'll bet he didn't even think about having that cig in his hand, he has probably had a cig in either hand or mouth for more than 20 hours in a day since he was 12.
I bought my vehicle new in 1996 and has become a trusty beater over the decades. However, she runs like new because only I have worked on her, upgraded her, maintained her. It makes an enormous different if you are the only one to work on your vehicle. You will take time to do it right. You will take pride on your vehicle. A, "professional," will only rush through a job and punch a clock. There used to be a time when you wanted something done right, you called a professional. Today, if you want something done right, you study, get the tools, take your time, and do it yourself.
Reminds me of when I sold my 79 Berlinetta. When the potential buyer came over to look at it, I pointed out all the shit wrong with it and what I had originally planned to do to fix it. He said "you're not doing a very good job of selling me on buying this car." And he kinda chuckled. I told him that the car was in rough shape, and I didn't want someone buying it if they weren't ready for the work involved in fixing it. He bought the car without negotiating the price and said, "I feel confident that you aren't hiding anything, since you pointed out at least a dozen things I missed" 3 years later, I get a call from that guy asking if he can bring the car by to show it off. It looked like he had bought a brand new one from 79!
Charlie I sold a 1982 Olds Cutlass Ciera my wife bought brand fricken new in 81. We sold it outright to a single mom with 3 unappreciative brats. She sang to my wife and I her sad song about no money, low paying job, etc etc etc. I fell for it, took 500 dollars of the asking price, told her all the things about the car that she should b aware of. She payed me drove off, 1 month later she subpoenaed me to small claims court for falsifying and screwing her on the car!!!?? WTF??!! Lesson learned do not trust anyone!!
@@mikeleo7189 it's a Bugler. I used to smoke them back in the day up in NY - no idea where to find those here. Also - I smoke a lotta thinking sticks. it's the only way my IQ exceeds the octane of my fuel :D
You’re the perfect friend. Everyone should have a Uncle Tony to take with them, when purchasing a used car. You’re a walking encyclopedia of vintage cars. Great work!
Tony reminds me of my Dad, may he rest in peace. He could hop in a car start it and tell you what was wrong with it before he ever left the driveway. We need more guys like this.
I’m from Kentucky my family runs a body shop there and we do good work but there’s those fly by night guys that will do anything body work mechanical work restore cars it may not look or run good 100footers for sure 😂😂 but there cheap and that’s what ya get 😂
@@itsjusta2v198 I'm from Kentucky myself and I have seen bad work from all over the world.what does Kentucky have to do with someone that makes a video from buttfuck his momma Georgia or I bet hes the Fuck up who did it indiana
I seen a frame that was rusted out. Had been filled with spray foam, trimmed to match the frame and painted to match the frame! What gave it away was they'd forgotten to paint the back side.
@@johnnyhotrod2608 I agree 100%...I have been around cars for 50 years...every car has a story...I don`t think the person who did this frame patch work thought they did anything wrong they just were not qualified for this type of repair
@@johnnyhotrod2608 Yep had a Great Uncle who was a body man at a Cadillac dealer in Suburban Chicago. Cadillac zone liked his work and often sent them "presents" when he retired in the 80's the zone was sending $30,000-35,000 a year in work for him to fix.
@@ShaunHensley I agree 100%...there is so much to look for...It is amazing what a little seam sealer and undercoating can cover....And we didn`t even get into the vin tag swapping
You are just like my dad. He knew everything about Mopar's. He was a Dingsman at Chrysler in Belvidere Illinois from 67 to 72. He fixed all the accident's that happened on the production line. I tried to carry on the Chrysler tradition. I have had several different A body's. We would restore them body off to back to original. My dad even had new old stock nuts and bolts for the Darts and other cars. A lot of time if a car was too bad to save he would take it apart and save what was good for other projects. We didn't do it to make money. We broke even or lost money on every we did. We always had 3 projects going on. One car was enough projects for my liking. When he died in 2003 my world fell apart. He was my shooting, fishing, camping buddy most of all he was my teacher when it came to A body's. The 1965 Barracuda and Dart and Valiant will always be my favorite. I can't count how many I have had well simply because I'm 50 now and I still can't find my damn keys. My memory is going. It's something nice I got from my mom's side of the family. We lived in Denver in the 92 to 2004. The classics are easy to come by. Back then I could buy 65 barracuda and you could got the big junk yard in Erie Colorado and find parts. They had at least 30 of them. It was the mecca of old cars. Plus there was Mopower Masters that had or knew where almost any part was and a guy that collected A body's. The city was going to make him get rid of all his cars because they said it was a eye sore. It was my personal drug den. He applied for a museum license and got it he had everything. If you needed a rear window for a 65 or 66 Barracuda he had probably 20 of them. I bought a bunch of high performance stuff for a 225. I got a set of dual headers and a 4 bbl intake with a 2 bbl plate on it with a Holly 500 cfm carb like the circle jerks use. A fresh head with big valves. The list goes on and on. We made my Valiant go really fast for a 225. The hardest thing to build was the linkage to the carb. The original 1 bbl pulled and the Holley pushed for the throttle. Well it was hard for me because I never came across that before. I'm not saying I'm a great mechanic. My dad probably forgot more than I ever knew. He had it taken care of in a few hours. I'm glad there are people out there who still have the knowledge and are willing to share that knowledge. Thanks for the great video and putting up with my rambling.
People don't believe it when I told them about all the cars I bought for under a grand. Yeah, we had to rebuild them ourselves. We didn't have much money!
Thank you Tony,we live in similar worlds,i have had to have these hard conversations with my customers too,all cars have history,and some it isn't pretty.it pisses me off I have to condemn a car,someone bought in good faith.a good number of these older rides have serious structural,and mechanical safety issues.i appreciate you warning folks,i hope they listen brother.
the most dangerous ones are unit body cars, or the hybrid chassis cars like Camaro's and Nova's . when rot sets in they are death traps. the rocker panels and the floor mounting points for the front A-frame are the real bad spots on those cars.
You are a wealth of knowledge. I'm glad I stumbled upon this channel. Subscribed. If I'm ever in the market for a car from my past, I'm calling you. The exact same thing happened to my 69 Barracuda. Unibody issues. And yes when I bought mine, the frame rails were paper thin. it was sitting on bricks in a backyard. That was 1982. Traded it for a 72 GTO
A play on emotion, that’s all it is. Great video! THINK before you buy. My father taught me that paint and undercoating hide a lot of “history”.... never forgot that
So many of these now coveted cars were clapped out old beaters 30 plus years ago. Guys are taking stuff I'd demo or junk and making fat cash calling them restored. Doctored up and undercoated is one price range, truly restored is another.
Some of these BARN FINDER videos make people think that total rusty garbage is worth thousands of dollars. In reality you and I Rex & poor ole Tony is gonna be dealing with this shit a lot more thanks to these fucktards pedaling these dreams of grandious made of rusty fucking shit you and I would toss in the shit pile. The reality is some people make tons of money selling this rusty shit to unsuspecting people and lot of them have those people pedaling that old parts car they bought. These shifty bastards also have this little tiny fine print clause on their sales invoice that says the vehicle is being sold as a nostalgia piece which means it was not sold to be put back on the road. We just had a happening here and it was a Plymouth Duster... But when we were kids WAY BACK when we didn't call em a Plymouth Ruster for no reason at all. People read your sales contracts okay and look for that little little tiny area that says THIS VEHICLE OR THIS ITEM IS BEING SOLD FOR NOSTALGIA PURPOSES ONLY. The clause also does not have to say anything about it even being a vehicle. Once it says being sold as Nostalgia piece you better look up the definition of the word Nostalgia means you are the person that deems it an item worth what you are paying for it. It does not imply the item has any identifiable value so even if ya file a court case the judge throws it out once he explains to you and your lawyer that NOSTALGIA has no stated value and no warranty clause exists for Nostalgia Hardware unless it is stated on that contract with specifics that pertain to that item you bought and that can still be null and void in the eyes of a judge unless the warranty clause is exclusive to the item and vehicle you bought. Okay we are seeing a lot of this shit right here living in the SALT BELT RUST BELT STATE of PENNSYLVANIA I have a speed and performance shop right here and I have been seeing a lot of this since these barn find videos surfaced. Uncle Harry's crashed rusted old 69 Camaro someone sprinkled coal dust on with a shop vac in reverse all of sudden becomes worth 10K because it's an original Z28 and the guy selling it knows it wasn't his uncle Harry's nor is it a real Z28 and he's trying to find another sucker just like is to buy it. Do your homework people don't get that fever that rises up making you impulsive and foolish with your dough... Fact is most of those relics are gone have been found and restored. Now people are pedaling shit out of pure greed because the law allows em loop holes to do so... I must have looked at over 3 dozen alleged all original 1969 Z28's and I got news for you every selling em said they had matching numbers and we in decent shape or the accident damages were semi exposed to me.. I got news 4 ya not one of em had matching numbers not on the engine or body and doors.. It's junk basically. And if I want it they'll come down 500 bucks from nine grand..
Any classic car that you see that is under coated everywhere it shouldn't be is a red flag that you should walk away quickly. Because if you buy it, you will empty your wallet trying to fix what should've gone to the crusher......
@@heyrod59 Most of these fraudsters are indeed spraying right over old rust. I only found one technique that even comes close to working is I use that CMP rust reformer let it dry a few days and I spray over that with Sherwin Williams DTM black paint and I seal it with a clear coat. it has held up decent on my trucks I restore so that is not necessarily the truth unless you mean it is actual undercoating because no sane shop that exists uses true undercoating everyone knows what it does to a frame is it eats inside then out. The undercoating for one makes people buy because most of the time it is still all shinny but as you said they never think it's a disguise. Us pros take that trusty ole retired screw driver along and poke poke poke especially seem areas and sub frames. Most of us wore that one time sucker stamp on our foreheads never to be worn again. Once ya get hosed for some serious cash it lasts a life time... But these barn find videos are making people believe that Camaro that's been lying the weeds the last 35 years is somehow worth 5K 10K... It's worth shit the frame is gone the original motors and trans long gone... Idiots.. Now I got fucktards coming around my property for the first time lifting tarps having their camera adventures and now stealing parts for the first time since I live here because they took their cameras and let all their buddies know where there rare valuable parts are at... Some of this is shit 4 the birds.
I think alot of people don't realize that any paint and body guy worth their salt can make even the most rotten derelicts look like show cars on the outside, atleast for a while before the mud cracks and falls to pieces.
You are correct but modern day "mud" does not crack or soak up water like the old crap. Duraglass is the "new panel in the can"! There have also been "muds" with metal added for those "smart" guys with magnets.....lol
@@johnnyhotrod2608 I used Duraglass 40 years ago for small holes or patch seams because it doesn't absorb water from behind the repair, but the stuff won't feather or cut straight, so it always needed to be topped with the smooth mud. There was also metal-filled mud back then, but it also didn't feather or cut well, and the metal it contained was powdered aluminum. I doubt there has ever been a ferrous metal mud. There's no way to mix enough metal in the resin to make it hold a magnet like solid metal. It would be half plastic and half metal, it would weigh a ton and it would definitely sand and feather like shit.
You're right! I saw a Studebaker at a swap meet some years ago with a beautiful burgundy metallic paint job,tweed interior and roses etched on the windows.Looked trick,right??I knelt down to look underneath of it and the owner didn't even sweep the cobwebs and crap off of the rusty a$$ frame.
Scary that people have such low morals, that they would sell a car like this. Someone knew that it was worthless, dangerous and just wanted to make a profit.
The first tip off for me is fresh undercoating. The only reason that an old car for sale will have “fresh” undercoating is to hide something. If you see that walk away. 😉
I never understood why people are willing to spend thousands on a classic car but not willing to pay a couple hundred bucks to have it really inspected.
I'm finding that many of these barn finds are being found, slapped together with crap work and a paint job then being sold to the public that don't know what to look for and bad things happen. This is a good video with great info, thanks.
I have literally zero interest in cars, nevertheless old cars, but you keep popping up on my feed and I keep watching. Liking because you deserve it. Keep up the good work! 😂
Part of the problem is the people that are foolish enough to shell out the 10k that old farmer wants for his rusty, crusty, nothing-special-about-it Camaro, Charger, Mustang, Chevelle, etc sitting out back or the barn. Then after that, these people bring that rust bucket to my shop wanting it restored. Then when I go over the restoration invoice line by line, they get all shocked and upset, and then the nickel and diming starts. How much to do just this? How much to fix just that? Explaining to them that it doesn't work like that gets old. They could have bought a previously restored version already for half the price and been done. I still see run-of-the-mill first gen Camaro's already restored going for mid-30k or less all day long.
Yeah it's real bad. Even the undesirable cars are going for stupid money. What's also annoying is every car has a "special" option that means jacking up the price. I could give a damn about option unless it had to do with the engine
This is a comment on his classic car flipper scam video - since comments were disabled. I just wanted to say, I would pay this guy to come along and look over my next vehicle purchase - he knows his shit! Honest and knowledgeable - everyone’s favourite Uncle! Sub’d.
Always bring your own lighting when inspecting a car, and I’m not talking about some little flashlight, bring something serious like a spot light or a Milwaukee led work light. You’ll be blown away with what good lighting will reveal
Another trend is for bad flippers to use spray foam and undercoating on frames to cover up holes! Take a good magnet with you and always use a lift to inspect it or walk away!
I’m a 23 year old woman going on my own to college, and one of the most worrisome things for me is trouble with my car. I know nothing about cars and am afraid of getting duped should the need for a fix arise. Since finding your channel, you’ve taught me so much about them. You’re amazingly smart, thank you for educating me!
Anybody buying an older car should be armed with enough knowledge to not buy what I've just seen here. Anyone trying to pass off junk like this as anything better deserves to fail. There are too many "experts" who know very little about cars.
Uncle Tony, I've never met you, but feel like I know you just by watching your videos. I love your genuine approach and advice given on your channel. Watching your videos is a breath of fresh air for me. If you can bottle up your knowledge and wit or sell books, you would be a millionaire!! God bless you and keep doing your thing. The common sense and automotive knowledge you have is worth more than any degree at any university in the world. I am hooked for life!!
Guys this is not the late 90’s everyone who over age 38 should not be getting ripped off from buying a classic old car. Back in the late 90’s-late 2000’s mostly everyone took a well deserved beating from eBay or the internet in general. I know I took mines and learned my life lesson. Today when I buy my old school I start from underneath and work my way up. Thanks uncle Tony for this video.
I’ve seen those frames boxed before like that. An old hot rod modification to stop the flexing. My 61 Chevy will hook up so hard. The flex will open the passenger side door.
Yes we did that once and the indy inspector found no rust but when we received the car it was full of bondo, so that is no insurance that it is a good car,
@@rodneyrobbins9526 that's just a crummy mechanic, a good one would have noticed... You need to find a specialist for the type of car you are inspecting if you can find one.
@@rodneyrobbins9526 lol your problem was you went to a mechanic , when you needed to find both a mechanic , and a competent body man. I don't know why so many people skip step two of this process. Most regular passenger /light truck mechanics /technicians don't know shit about body and frame repairs , and vice versa.
Thank you for your interesting videos. I was asked by a fiend back in 2015 to take a second look at a 1970 Austin 3 Litre at dealer based in Suffolk that he brought a troublesome Rover 3 Litre P5 from. I noticed rust in inner sill on both sides of the front footwells, a strange dent on the driver's side floorpan, rusty doors, missing sparewheel cradle and a whole lot more. My friend hadn't even taken the car for a test drive, so I asked the dealer if I could take for a drive. It drove OK. Friend asked what I thought about said car, I replied I wouldn't buy it. He of course ended up buying the wreck for nearly £6,000, and arranged to collect with my help a few weeks later. Dealer said the car should be delivered and advised that it would not make it back home to Hertfordshire. The reason turned out that the cooling system was blocked and needed a full overhaul. The stupid thing is, said friend ended up buying another wreck, this time a 1970 Morris Oxford saloon (that was in a British comedy series on Sky TV with Nick Frost and Olivia Coleman) from this 'dealer', with heavy steering, rusty front wings, passenger side chassis rail a knackered boot hinge that I repaired twice, (I did advise that he should buy a replacement one both times). This so called specialist was said to have bullied my mate to buy this third car. The moral of this story is take someone like your goodself along to look at the future purchase rather than end up with a collection of lemons as my friend had purchased from this scam artist.
The problem with so many of these old cars is they don’t have good bones. Much as we love old muscle cars they were shit quality when they were new and half a century of age and deterioration haven’t helped.
Like most 70s mopars. Haha. My 71 valiant hasnt even been in an accident....no rust..low miles. (Canada, so youd know the rot, factory undercoat still ) But man the door gaps and alignment are awful on it.
@@tays8306 My first car , when in high school here in Oz . . was a Valiant Regal 770 2 door , long boot Charger with the 265 hemi , straight as a die , no rust , mech A1 for $175
@@benwinter2420 Poorly assmebled mopars seems to be a thing on this continent...atleast in the 70s. 60s stuff seems alot better. Not suprising from the company that circles the bankruptcy drain every decade.
@@tays8306 Mopars were called 'wog chariots' here back then . . the Greek fellows had a particular liking for them , I suppose with their long civilisation . . they knew quality when they saw it
I'm looking for a classic mini estate here in rust central UK so the advice of getting a car inspected is good. I remember a couple buying a 'museum quality' car in one US show that was pretty much built from wire coathangers on the underside. Scammers will sell any old poo as a car in the search for your money.
I inspect cars for my customers both prepurchase and post. I've seen this quite often and some customers don't want to hear it. They actually get mad at me the further I dig into their bad impulsive decision. Can't help someone else's choice, but I'm always available to resolve it
It is very entertaining and informative watching your videos. You provide a great service to the public.....I am 68 and retired from car repair,but, I want EVERYBODY to know I am an "A" tech in G.M. Chrysler and Mazda (rotary) cars. I am also an ASE Master Automotive Technician specializing in electrical / module / computer work...Enough about me..........You MUST listen to everything Tony says in his videos. He KNOWS what he is doing. Tell your friends. LEARN SOMETHING ! !.......Thank you,Tony. You are a blessing to the young people learning about cars.
I used to work for a company that installed aftermarket a.c. and restored factory a.c. we would get classic car dealer cars in and some of their work was pretty bad. But nice resell red paint and chrome wheels seemed to do the trick
Yes, If you put a dress on a pig it's still a pig underneath! Buyer beware weather it's 2 years old or 100 years old. have a look underneath. If you don't know squat about cars get someone who does to look.
Uncle Tony...……………….. without getting corny . You are walking history!!!!!! keep making these videos cause your knowledge IS AMAZING!!! I'm 60 and a gearhead and have worked motorcycles and cars since 1969. Every video is like going to school,keep up the great work.
Rust sucks. But with repairs done correctly it can be stopped. That doesn't mean patching, it means replacing all of the currently rusted metal and properly treating the rest. That is really labor intensive, very expensive and very time consuming. It usually only gets done on cars that are worth enough to do it to. Very few Roadrunners rise to that value.
Thanks for this video.Bought a car (Studebaker),an impulse buy.Nice paint,nice wheels gauges seats,etc.This was bought from out of state based only on photos taken of the car (no underside pics).The aftermarket gauge set that was in the car wasn't even hooked up and I removed them without any tools!A lot of Mickey Mouse stuff topside,most of it I could fix.What I couldn't fix was underneath.The forward rear spring perch was nonexistent and a piece of 2" X 2" metal stock was welded in it's place.On the same side someone beat the shit out of the keyway and the axle key was actually welded to the axle! I bought the car in Sept of last year and only went around the block with it twice since that time.I've had it in the shop for a long while;I will get it right at some point,but it will take time and a whole lot more $$$$$.Disclaimer: Yes it's my fault,bought from a private party and I certainly got what I paid for (not much,lol).Thanks Uncle Tony for bringing this kind of crap to light!
Oh man, sorry for your fiasco on that thing...but, you're in good company. There are thousands of guys out there that can tell that same story with different names and slightly different details. Good luck with it man. Keep your eyes on the prize and just keep inching forward
I'm an auto interior tech for 40 plus years and some of the things I have repair that just came from another shop are mind blowing. Thanks Tony fight the good fight.
Great video. In 1974 I was given my grandfather's 1963 Dodge Dart w/ a 170 slant six.. I drove that car through my senior year of high school and 4 years of college. Even though it was rusted nearly in half, I loved that car. I always wondered why it just pulled so smoothly in 2nd gear, thanks for the lesson. Even to this day I want to build a 170 performance motor and put it in an old Dodge or Plymouth. I really enjoyed your video and you got me thinking about a project now that I'm retire. Thank you.
If you idiots can't tell the difference on your own go buy a bycicle, don't blame car dealers for your lack of knowledge, now if a car dealer is a flat ass lier and knowlingly is trying to screw ya that's a diffrent story .
The wizards in the woods of Kentucky killed me Lol. The guy who engineered the distributor seems like a nifty guy if you ask me. He built it instead of replacing lmao!! Use the stick Willow!
Dang I'm pissed I just found this channel! I sure wish I had someone I could trust like this in Fort Worth! You go UTG! I wish you most success on UA-cam!
Every flipper is evil. They’re taking an amazing deal to take someone else’s money that could have had a car they actually wanted for a good price. If you don’t want/need the car don’t buy it. Worst part is every flipper is always every low baller. They refuse to take a cut on price, but demand price cuts on every one they buy.
No kidding. It gave me flashbacks to a Cordoba I worked on back in the day. Kicked the lift under the rails, hit the button and the lift went up but the car didn't. Hmmm...
Thanks for your videos. . . I hope all car folks even moderately interested in older vehicles watch and learn. I know next to nothing about MOPAR, but respect those that do. I drive and maintain a 60-year old VW and have convinced at least two friends/acquaintances from 'investing' in a 'vintage' Volkswagen that was NOT what it pretended to be. Thanks again, Tony :)
My father designed a 1/4" angle iron and plate exoskeleton for a '67 Mustang Convertible I owned. It's unibody rust was confined to part of the torque box and the lower half of the rocker panels. The unibody rails were fine, thankfully and the car doors would open with the front end jacked up. Rode fine afterwards:)-John in Texas
Woah boy, that looks like a Chrysler product and a rotten sub frame is bad news. I'm looking at where the torsion bars are and you are correct. That car is dangerously structurally unsound. I have always been careful when buying any older car. I want to see it up on a lift. As you said, these older cars are becoming more and more rare and more and more expensive. So, a lot of less then honest people are doctoring them up with a fresh coat of paint, some thicker oil in everything and selling them as what they love to call 'survivors'. Right. You will be lucky to survive the repair bills and possibly a drive if you buy these mechanical nightmares. I hope your customer wins their case. I can not believe a vintage car dealer would be unaware of such issues. Every dealer I know does a full inspection of every car they sell, whether it is a year old or 60 years old.
My little sister bought a used Cavalier when she was 17 but we found out when she got it inspected that it was a car that was flood damaged. There were clear water level Markings on the door jams and the frame was 100% rusted out. The guy who was doing the inspection "helped her out" by disguising the rusted frame with undercoating and letting her car pass inspection. Well sure enough a few months later we're driving about 20mph down the road when the frame literally snapped in half and fell on top of the tires stopping us instantly. We were so lucky we were only going 20mph because my sister drives on the park way to get to work everyday and if that happened while she was going 80mph it could have easily killed her. That machanic should lose his inspection license for "helping her out"
My friend bought an old BMW, looks nice and sounded great. 2 weeks later the engine was falling apart and a mechanic said the thing was held together with paper clips.
My nephew had something like that happen to him when he bought a 66 mustang. Whole rear subframe was rotted out, floor was so thin I am surprised his foot did not go through the floor. Covered in new carpet of course. And the list goes on and on.
Its nice to see someone actually giving good advice and knows what they are talking about. I have had too many cars come in because the owner thought they where a mechanic after watching a couple of UA-cam videos or even some helmet they hired cheap on Facebook because they "wanted to save some money".
This man is right they are cashing in on your desire for a classic car. I have seen beautiful cars on Mecum sell for less than 10 k....And really rough cars on dealer sites 30k+....DO SOME SHOPPING there are LOTS of classic cars go to Bar&Jackson or Mecum Look on E Bay..
Ah , Uncle Tony you are spot on as usual. Car flippers are the worst, incompetent mechanics are a close second., Every time I am looking at the underside of a old car, and I see fresh paint, or undercoat. I get nervous. Almost every old car I have been involved in., The first thing I have to is straighten out the electrical. Then front end work is almost always required. Go thru the brake system. Get the engine running right ( many times requiring the removal of " the BIG cam " ) Get the trans shifting properly. Then the car is roadworthy. Most of these projects that I find myself asshole deep in were " perfect , needs nothing , drive it to California , cars. " Thanks for your videos Tony .
If a dealer ever has a hard time with me wanting to have a car lifted up for a undercarriage inspection, I take that as a red flag; especially if the car is some kind of vintage classic and it is being sold as a roll off the lot type of deal.
A magnet also helps to find metal on 1/4 panels/doors/fenders etc. If the magnet falls off, you have a bondo bucket, and you should run away from it....
Yeah most guys aren’t going to let you hit there car with a ice pick. These are 50 year old plus cars, you can feel and see frame rust, there are plenty of holes to feel or see dirt in frames.
Great Vid. More people need to see stuff like this. Some people pay top dollar for classics but never actually have someone with a bit of knowledge to come to check them out with them. Here is a quick story, 1967 Barracuda beautiful looking car, the price was right. Had a new paint job that looked well done. It came into the shop to get a look over and something didn't seem right with the paint. Noticed a couple small bubbles, could have been some contaminants on the body maybe the painter missed it. Easy fix take a day. But as soon as we started to dig in the paint seemed to come off too easy and suddenly a big chunk fell off, dinner plate size of paint just fell off. Time to investigate, the color did not adhere to the primer at all. We were literally able to blow the paint off with air. Imagine if the owner was driving down the road (this car was ridiculously fast) and all the paint just flying off. If you are buying a classic car bring someone that knows about them it could save you thousands of dollars.
You have to be so careful buying a classic car. Most of them have been tarted up to look pretty to sell. Be CAREFULL buyers and LISTEN to tony i have been in the trade for 30 YEARS but all ways listen to PEOPLE with experience or you COULD get SHAFTED badly ,, great vid tony son ,,
My Grandfather bought a shop after ww2. All of my uncles and cousins worked in that shop for 25 years. He took on the troubled teens from the highschool. Have them skills they could use. My gandfather was of the old ways. You did a job and you did it right. You told the truth, You didn't scam people. I remember playing at the shop and hearing them explain to customers they only needed a $10 part after they were told by another shop it would be hundreds if not thousands. Happened all the time. People knew my family. They knew they could trust what we said. I remember when he closed that shop at 79 years old the industry was so corrupt none of my uncles or cousins wanted to stay in the industry because they were unwilling to bend on the morals my Gandfather instilled in us all. People like you are rare sir. I think your videos are awesome. You remind me of the good ole days when people cared about each other and helped each other out because it was the right thing to do. You remind me of him. He's been gone 6 years and I miss him everyday. Thank you for who you are, for what you do, for taking me back to summers spent at that dusty greasy amazing little 4 stall shop. =)
Thank you for sharing this story, Kim D.
I agree.
That's how I run my business. I start with fresh keen bright kids and train then right from scratch. Don't hire many with much experience because they can be half trained, bad habits etc. Easier to start from scratch. Train them right.
We don't make a lot of money but we all make a living working for repeat customers who trust us.
@@indyrock8148 id love to find a shop like that. Ive only changed my oil myself ONCE! But damnit I'm really eager to learn about cars! ❤
@@indyrock8148 you betcha,if you want a good apple don't get from the barrel,get it from the tree!Sean Connery from,"The Untouchables".
Well said Kim D.. your Grandfathers spirit lives on ,,in people like Uncle Tony.. remember UA-cam has straight, no bs,honest people too,, not all,..crap-artists,,.
Soon as i seen the cig inbetween his fingers i knew he was a trust worthy source!
If my mechanic ain't got a cig I dont trust it
@@MK-sk2mi Indeed
I'll bet he didn't even think about having that cig in his hand, he has probably had a cig in either hand or mouth for more than 20 hours in a day since he was 12.
lol
I bet this sum bitch can patch up his lung cancer too
If you think a good mechanic is expensive, try using a bad one.
Any man that would go to sea for fun , would go to hell for a holiday
Fuck me! Now I'm in trouble. I have to show this to my wife! You Nailed it on the head. She has her fathers "mechanic " do everything. NOT ANYMORE!!!
“if you think you hate it now, wait till you drive it”
I've heard a similar saying: "If you health care is expensive now, just wait till it's free."
If you think a good mechanic is expensive, try using some hillbilly wizards in the woods
My dad always said "It's better to get your hands on an honest beater, than a shoddy restoration. That way you can do it right from the beginning"
Dad was spot on
Right as usual.
Sounds like you have a smart old man, my dad would always say the same
I bought my vehicle new in 1996 and has become a trusty beater over the decades. However, she runs like new because only I have worked on her, upgraded her, maintained her. It makes an enormous different if you are the only one to work on your vehicle. You will take time to do it right. You will take pride on your vehicle. A, "professional," will only rush through a job and punch a clock. There used to be a time when you wanted something done right, you called a professional. Today, if you want something done right, you study, get the tools, take your time, and do it yourself.
Same
Reminds me of when I sold my 79 Berlinetta. When the potential buyer came over to look at it, I pointed out all the shit wrong with it and what I had originally planned to do to fix it. He said "you're not doing a very good job of selling me on buying this car." And he kinda chuckled.
I told him that the car was in rough shape, and I didn't want someone buying it if they weren't ready for the work involved in fixing it.
He bought the car without negotiating the price and said, "I feel confident that you aren't hiding anything, since you pointed out at least a dozen things I missed"
3 years later, I get a call from that guy asking if he can bring the car by to show it off. It looked like he had bought a brand new one from 79!
Charlie I sold a 1982 Olds Cutlass Ciera my wife bought brand fricken new in 81. We sold it outright to a single mom with 3 unappreciative brats. She sang to my wife and I her sad song about no money, low paying job, etc etc etc. I fell for it, took 500 dollars of the asking price, told her all the things about the car that she should b aware of. She payed me drove off, 1 month later she subpoenaed me to small claims court for falsifying and screwing her on the car!!!?? WTF??!! Lesson learned do not trust anyone!!
Were Berlinetta:'s V8 or Iron Duke I4?
@@elcabezon5487 They were V8 305.. Only the 350 V8 were options. But the inline six was dropped years before that..
@@MasterChief-sl9ro ive personally seen a straight six '79 (maybe 78?)
@@TheCatOfAges The straight six was definitely available in the 79 Berlinetta. The was the classic girl's version of the Camaro.
Some people see the cigarette,.......I see the proverbial "thinking stick"
Fuck, man...you are my hero of the hour.
Haha
Proverbial "thinking stick"! I'm so stealing this! Hilarious!!!
Is that a " homemade " thinking stick ?
@@mikeleo7189 it's a Bugler. I used to smoke them back in the day up in NY - no idea where to find those here.
Also - I smoke a lotta thinking sticks. it's the only way my IQ exceeds the octane of my fuel :D
You’re the perfect friend. Everyone should have a Uncle Tony to take with them, when purchasing a used car. You’re a walking encyclopedia of vintage cars. Great work!
I agree, i’ve got an uncle trev and he’s been in the car fixing business 40 years
Anyone know where he’s located?
This guy is a loon
@@stevenmays5075 ?
Good idea. We need an Uncle Tony app for phones.
If your mechanic doesn't smoke cigarettes find a new mechanic
My mechanic is mormon lol
"Fumes what are you talking about filter it through a cigarette"
😂😂
@phat cat mouse killer. Or drink whiskey. Lol
My mechanic does coke & he helps me out alot lol
Tony reminds me of my Dad, may he rest in peace. He could hop in a car start it and tell you what was wrong with it before he ever left the driveway. We need more guys like this.
Dealers are always trying to put their drive shaft in your rear end.
And they want you to play with their lug nuts
They try to push their dipstick down your throat and want to lubricate your rear end. All they want to do is polish their pushrods at your expense.
So graphic guys, so graphic!
They want to take off your belt and play with your pullys and water pump.
@@davidhardcore704 You do not even want to know what they want to do your your cylinder bore with their oversized piston.
Put together by a wizard in the woods of Kentucky LMFAO!!! that was funny LOL!!!
I’m from Kentucky my family runs a body shop there and we do good work but there’s those fly by night guys that will do anything body work mechanical work restore cars it may not look or run good 100footers for sure 😂😂 but there cheap and that’s what ya get 😂
@@itsjusta2v198 I'm from Kentucky myself and I have seen bad work from all over the world.what does Kentucky have to do with someone that makes a video from buttfuck his momma Georgia or I bet hes the Fuck up who did it indiana
Thystaff Thywill until they see a corner
@DB those letters must stand for Dick Breath...am I right? Thought so.
Well at least they had a shot , some city folk have lost the ability to even change a lightbulb
I seen a frame that was rusted out. Had been filled with spray foam, trimmed to match the frame and painted to match the frame! What gave it away was they'd forgotten to paint the back side.
Thats terrible lol
LoL I had to fix a convertible with the same problem a 66 Chevy had to box it in
I think that tops it all!!!!
i had a early 70s corvette come in one time that was like that on the frame but they used newspaper and body fill instead!
Lol
Buyer beware on any used vehicle if it's 2 years old or 50 years old.
Buyer beware if it is 1 minutes old.......sometimes they are wrecked prior to being sold as brand new.
@@johnnyhotrod2608 I agree 100%...I have been around cars for 50 years...every car has a story...I don`t think the person who did this frame patch work thought they did anything wrong they just were not qualified for this type of repair
@@johnnyhotrod2608 Yep had a Great Uncle who was a body man at a Cadillac dealer in Suburban Chicago. Cadillac zone liked his work and often sent them "presents" when he retired in the 80's the zone was sending $30,000-35,000 a year in work for him to fix.
This is still a service showing people what to look for
@@ShaunHensley I agree 100%...there is so much to look for...It is amazing what a little seam sealer and undercoating can cover....And we didn`t even get into the vin tag swapping
2nd video I have watched - Subbed! Trustworthy and honest to the core, I wish I had an uncle tony!
You are just like my dad. He knew everything about Mopar's. He was a Dingsman at Chrysler in Belvidere Illinois from 67 to 72. He fixed all the accident's that happened on the production line. I tried to carry on the Chrysler tradition. I have had several different A body's. We would restore them body off to back to original. My dad even had new old stock nuts and bolts for the Darts and other cars. A lot of time if a car was too bad to save he would take it apart and save what was good for other projects. We didn't do it to make money. We broke even or lost money on every we did. We always had 3 projects going on. One car was enough projects for my liking. When he died in 2003 my world fell apart. He was my shooting, fishing, camping buddy most of all he was my teacher when it came to A body's. The 1965 Barracuda and Dart and Valiant will always be my favorite. I can't count how many I have had well simply because I'm 50 now and I still can't find my damn keys. My memory is going. It's something nice I got from my mom's side of the family. We lived in Denver in the 92 to 2004. The classics are easy to come by. Back then I could buy 65 barracuda and you could got the big junk yard in Erie Colorado and find parts. They had at least 30 of them. It was the mecca of old cars. Plus there was Mopower Masters that had or knew where almost any part was and a guy that collected A body's. The city was going to make him get rid of all his cars because they said it was a eye sore. It was my personal drug den. He applied for a museum license and got it he had everything. If you needed a rear window for a 65 or 66 Barracuda he had probably 20 of them. I bought a bunch of high performance stuff for a 225. I got a set of dual headers and a 4 bbl intake with a 2 bbl plate on it with a Holly 500 cfm carb like the circle jerks use. A fresh head with big valves. The list goes on and on. We made my Valiant go really fast for a 225. The hardest thing to build was the linkage to the carb. The original 1 bbl pulled and the Holley pushed for the throttle. Well it was hard for me because I never came across that before. I'm not saying I'm a great mechanic. My dad probably forgot more than I ever knew. He had it taken care of in a few hours. I'm glad there are people out there who still have the knowledge and are willing to share that knowledge. Thanks for the great video and putting up with my rambling.
People don't believe it when I told them about all the cars I bought for under a grand. Yeah, we had to rebuild them ourselves. We didn't have much money!
Nice ramble :) Maybe hit "Enter" now and then next time, that makes reading easier...
There is no excuse for a dealer selling a car in that condition. Thanks for your information.
Thank you Tony,we live in similar worlds,i have had to have these hard conversations with my customers too,all cars have history,and some it isn't pretty.it pisses me off I have to condemn a car,someone bought in good faith.a good number of these older rides have serious structural,and mechanical safety issues.i appreciate you warning folks,i hope they listen brother.
Thanks for showing the chassis defects for people to take note so many driving around in death traps not aware of what's lurking underneath
the most dangerous ones are unit body cars, or the hybrid chassis cars like Camaro's and Nova's . when rot sets in they are death traps. the rocker panels and the floor mounting points for the front A-frame are the real bad spots on those cars.
I learned the hard way on a 66 Mustang.. I was young and dumb and.....
@@BAZZAROU812 And....?
@@betosgarage you can't figure out what the last word is going to be. Well I'll give you a hint, it starts with s. And it's opposite of smart.
@@dafyd242 The mopars are unibody cars, I always liked them though but it's tough to find one that's not rotted and at a decent price
You are a wealth of knowledge. I'm glad I stumbled upon this channel. Subscribed. If I'm ever in the market for a car from my past, I'm calling you. The exact same thing happened to my 69 Barracuda. Unibody issues. And yes when I bought mine, the frame rails were paper thin. it was sitting on bricks in a backyard. That was 1982. Traded it for a 72 GTO
This guy's legit. I wanna have a beer and a smoke with him.
SUBd brother!
A play on emotion, that’s all it is. Great video! THINK before you buy. My father taught me that paint and undercoating hide a lot of “history”.... never forgot that
So many of these now coveted cars were clapped out old beaters 30 plus years ago. Guys are taking stuff I'd demo or junk and making fat cash calling them restored. Doctored up and undercoated is one price range, truly restored is another.
Some of these BARN FINDER videos make people think that total rusty garbage is worth thousands of dollars. In reality you and I Rex & poor ole Tony is gonna be dealing with this shit a lot more thanks to these fucktards pedaling these dreams of grandious made of rusty fucking shit you and I would toss in the shit pile. The reality is some people make tons of money selling this rusty shit to unsuspecting people and lot of them have those people pedaling that old parts car they bought. These shifty bastards also have this little tiny fine print clause on their sales invoice that says the vehicle is being sold as a nostalgia piece which means it was not sold to be put back on the road. We just had a happening here and it was a Plymouth Duster... But when we were kids WAY BACK when we didn't call em a Plymouth Ruster for no reason at all. People read your sales contracts okay and look for that little little tiny area that says THIS VEHICLE OR THIS ITEM IS BEING SOLD FOR NOSTALGIA PURPOSES ONLY. The clause also does not have to say anything about it even being a vehicle. Once it says being sold as Nostalgia piece you better look up the definition of the word Nostalgia means you are the person that deems it an item worth what you are paying for it. It does not imply the item has any identifiable value so even if ya file a court case the judge throws it out once he explains to you and your lawyer that NOSTALGIA has no stated value and no warranty clause exists for Nostalgia Hardware unless it is stated on that contract with specifics that pertain to that item you bought and that can still be null and void in the eyes of a judge unless the warranty clause is exclusive to the item and vehicle you bought. Okay we are seeing a lot of this shit right here living in the SALT BELT RUST BELT STATE of PENNSYLVANIA I have a speed and performance shop right here and I have been seeing a lot of this since these barn find videos surfaced. Uncle Harry's crashed rusted old 69 Camaro someone sprinkled coal dust on with a shop vac in reverse all of sudden becomes worth 10K because it's an original Z28 and the guy selling it knows it wasn't his uncle Harry's nor is it a real Z28 and he's trying to find another sucker just like is to buy it. Do your homework people don't get that fever that rises up making you impulsive and foolish with your dough... Fact is most of those relics are gone have been found and restored. Now people are pedaling shit out of pure greed because the law allows em loop holes to do so... I must have looked at over 3 dozen alleged all original 1969 Z28's and I got news for you every selling em said they had matching numbers and we in decent shape or the accident damages were semi exposed to me.. I got news 4 ya not one of em had matching numbers not on the engine or body and doors.. It's junk basically. And if I want it they'll come down 500 bucks from nine grand..
Any classic car that you see that is under coated everywhere it shouldn't be is a red flag that you should walk away quickly. Because if you buy it, you will empty your wallet trying to fix what should've gone to the crusher......
@@heyrod59 Most of these fraudsters are indeed spraying right over old rust. I only found one technique that even comes close to working is I use that CMP rust reformer let it dry a few days and I spray over that with Sherwin Williams DTM black paint and I seal it with a clear coat. it has held up decent on my trucks I restore so that is not necessarily the truth unless you mean it is actual undercoating because no sane shop that exists uses true undercoating everyone knows what it does to a frame is it eats inside then out. The undercoating for one makes people buy because most of the time it is still all shinny but as you said they never think it's a disguise. Us pros take that trusty ole retired screw driver along and poke poke poke especially seem areas and sub frames. Most of us wore that one time sucker stamp on our foreheads never to be worn again. Once ya get hosed for some serious cash it lasts a life time... But these barn find videos are making people believe that Camaro that's been lying the weeds the last 35 years is somehow worth 5K 10K... It's worth shit the frame is gone the original motors and trans long gone... Idiots.. Now I got fucktards coming around my property for the first time lifting tarps having their camera adventures and now stealing parts for the first time since I live here because they took their cameras and let all their buddies know where there rare valuable parts are at... Some of this is shit 4 the birds.
@@heyrod59 Once I see all of the undercoating I just walk away, you know fucking well that the car was just pieced together for a quick sale.
@butchtropic snowflakes piss me off.
I think alot of people don't realize that any paint and body guy worth their salt can make even the most rotten derelicts look like show cars on the outside, atleast for a while before the mud cracks and falls to pieces.
You are correct but modern day "mud" does not crack or soak up water like the old crap. Duraglass is the "new panel in the can"! There have also been "muds" with metal added for those "smart" guys with magnets.....lol
@@johnnyhotrod2608 I used Duraglass 40 years ago for small holes or patch seams because it doesn't absorb water from behind the repair, but the stuff won't feather or cut straight, so it always needed to be topped with the smooth mud. There was also metal-filled mud back then, but it also didn't feather or cut well, and the metal it contained was powdered aluminum. I doubt there has ever been a ferrous metal mud. There's no way to mix enough metal in the resin to make it hold a magnet like solid metal. It would be half plastic and half metal, it would weigh a ton and it would definitely sand and feather like shit.
@Rusty Climber The infamous Rustang. Lol
You're right! I saw a Studebaker at a swap meet some years ago with a beautiful burgundy metallic paint job,tweed interior and roses etched on the windows.Looked trick,right??I knelt down to look underneath of it and the owner didn't even sweep the cobwebs and crap off of the rusty a$$ frame.
You are a pillar of the car community, keep up what you are doing! I've seen my fair share of Frankenstein work myself that I've had to fix
Scary that people have such low morals, that they would sell a car like this. Someone knew that it was worthless, dangerous and just wanted to make a profit.
Imagine how long it time to box in both frame rails with patches, just silly.
The first tip off for me is fresh undercoating.
The only reason that an old car for sale will have “fresh” undercoating is to hide something. If you see that walk away. 😉
AMEN, my thoughts exactly, a dead give away.
I never understood why people are willing to spend thousands on a classic car but not willing to pay a couple hundred bucks to have it really inspected.
Or insurance
Amen.
One word, Ego.
I'm finding that many of these barn finds are being found, slapped together with crap work and a paint job then being sold to the public that don't know what to look for and bad things happen. This is a good video with great info, thanks.
I have literally zero interest in cars, nevertheless old cars, but you keep popping up on my feed and I keep watching. Liking because you deserve it. Keep up the good work! 😂
Damn, this is a gem of a channel that randomly popped in my feed! Instant subbed!!
Never buy a car without getting underneath and scrutinizing every piece of metal.
did no one ever (or 95% of people)
You said it brother, take it to a shop with a lift too
Was gonna buy a MK2 golf, drove it up on a high curb, got under and the thing was rotten.
it's considered rude in here
The funniest/ most dangerous I've seen is a Subaru with paper mache rocker panels,Lol
It is amazing how much garbage is out there and the price`s they are asking is unbelievable...
LOL yup alot of people think rust is worth its weight in gold
You are right!! Sellers are using the (Great Patina) lingo, for a piece of sh--
Part of the problem is the people that are foolish enough to shell out the 10k that old farmer wants for his rusty, crusty, nothing-special-about-it Camaro, Charger, Mustang, Chevelle, etc sitting out back or the barn. Then after that, these people bring that rust bucket to my shop wanting it restored. Then when I go over the restoration invoice line by line, they get all shocked and upset, and then the nickel and diming starts. How much to do just this? How much to fix just that? Explaining to them that it doesn't work like that gets old. They could have bought a previously restored version already for half the price and been done. I still see run-of-the-mill first gen Camaro's already restored going for mid-30k or less all day long.
Yeah it's real bad. Even the undesirable cars are going for stupid money. What's also annoying is every car has a "special" option that means jacking up the price. I could give a damn about option unless it had to do with the engine
HexagramMan, 6k for a roller 2nd gen isn't even worth the consideration. That guy selling it can keep it for backyard target practice.
This is why I love UA-cam!
Hands on education through someone else's eyes.
This is a comment on his classic car flipper scam video - since comments were disabled. I just wanted to say, I would pay this guy to come along and look over my next vehicle purchase - he knows his shit! Honest and knowledgeable - everyone’s favourite Uncle! Sub’d.
Always bring your own lighting when inspecting a car, and I’m not talking about some little flashlight, bring something serious like a spot light or a Milwaukee led work light. You’ll be blown away with what good lighting will reveal
Another trend is for bad flippers to use spray foam and undercoating on frames to cover up holes! Take a good magnet with you and always use a lift to inspect it or walk away!
If I ever go dream car shopping, I'm taking this guy with me! Thanx uncle Tony!
Great video U T, first time seeing one of your videos. going to subscribe, I want to find out what happens in the future with this mess.
I'm so glad I was a teen in the '70s, when muscle cars were still fairly new, and cheap.
My first car was a 1968 ford fairlane 500, mint condition low miles ran and drove beautifully. from Utah. $350 in about 1980
I’m a 23 year old woman going on my own to college, and one of the most worrisome things for me is trouble with my car. I know nothing about cars and am afraid of getting duped should the need for a fix arise. Since finding your channel, you’ve taught me so much about them. You’re amazingly smart, thank you for educating me!
Find an old person in your neighborhood and ask them where they take their cars. When old folks have found a loyal mechanic, they stick with them.
Anybody buying an older car should be armed with enough knowledge to not buy what I've just seen here. Anyone trying to pass off junk like this as anything better deserves to fail. There are too many "experts" who know very little about cars.
Hacksaw jim dugan looking good for his age and hes now a mechanic top stuff 😂👍🏽
👍👍hoooooooooooo
Just ran across your site and man I got say Awesome tutorials.Thanks for your knowledge and skill that you share.👍
Uncle Tony, I've never met you, but feel like I know you just by watching your videos. I love your genuine approach and advice given on your channel. Watching your videos is a breath of fresh air for me. If you can bottle up your knowledge and wit or sell books, you would be a millionaire!! God bless you and keep doing your thing. The common sense and automotive knowledge you have is worth more than any degree at any university in the world. I am hooked for life!!
Guys this is not the late 90’s everyone who over age 38 should not be getting ripped off from buying a classic old car. Back in the late 90’s-late 2000’s mostly everyone took a well deserved beating from eBay or the internet in general. I know I took mines and learned my life lesson. Today when I buy my old school I start from underneath and work my way up. Thanks uncle Tony for this video.
Thank you for stepping up and making people aware. That thing is a death trap. Sorry to say I’ve seen similar stuff.
I’ve seen those frames boxed before like that. An old hot rod modification to stop the flexing. My 61 Chevy will hook up so hard. The flex will open the passenger side door.
If your going to pay real money for a classic car get an independent inspection of it and if the dealer won't go with that you know it's bad.
Yes we did that once and the indy inspector found no rust but when we received the car it was full of bondo, so that is no insurance that it is a good car,
@@rodneyrobbins9526 that's just a crummy mechanic, a good one would have noticed... You need to find a specialist for the type of car you are inspecting if you can find one.
@@rodneyrobbins9526 lol your problem was you went to a mechanic , when you needed to find both a mechanic , and a competent body man. I don't know why so many people skip step two of this process. Most regular passenger /light truck mechanics /technicians don't know shit about body and frame repairs , and vice versa.
Thank you for your interesting videos. I was asked by a fiend back in 2015 to take a second look at a 1970 Austin 3 Litre at dealer based in Suffolk that he brought a troublesome Rover 3 Litre P5 from. I noticed rust in inner sill on both sides of the front footwells, a strange dent on the driver's side floorpan, rusty doors, missing sparewheel cradle and a whole lot more. My friend hadn't even taken the car for a test drive, so I asked the dealer if I could take for a drive. It drove OK. Friend asked what I thought about said car, I replied I wouldn't buy it. He of course ended up buying the wreck for nearly £6,000, and arranged to collect with my help a few weeks later. Dealer said the car should be delivered and advised that it would not make it back home to Hertfordshire. The reason turned out that the cooling system was blocked and needed a full overhaul. The stupid thing is, said friend ended up buying another wreck, this time a 1970 Morris Oxford saloon (that was in a British comedy series on Sky TV with Nick Frost and Olivia Coleman) from this 'dealer', with heavy steering, rusty front wings, passenger side chassis rail a knackered boot hinge that I repaired twice, (I did advise that he should buy a replacement one both times). This so called specialist was said to have bullied my mate to buy this third car. The moral of this story is take someone like your goodself along to look at the future purchase rather than end up with a collection of lemons as my friend had purchased from this scam artist.
The problem with so many of these old cars is they don’t have good bones. Much as we love old muscle cars they were shit quality when they were new and half a century of age and deterioration haven’t helped.
Like most 70s mopars. Haha. My 71 valiant hasnt even been in an accident....no rust..low miles. (Canada, so youd know the rot, factory undercoat still ) But man the door gaps and alignment are awful on it.
@@tays8306
My first car , when in high school here in Oz . . was a Valiant Regal 770 2 door , long boot Charger with the 265 hemi , straight as a die , no rust , mech A1 for $175
@@benwinter2420
Poorly assmebled mopars seems to be a thing on this continent...atleast in the 70s. 60s stuff seems alot better. Not suprising from the company that circles the bankruptcy drain every decade.
@@tays8306
Mopars were called 'wog chariots' here back then . . the Greek fellows had a particular liking for them , I suppose with their long civilisation . . they knew quality when they saw it
MrJeffcoley1 absolutely agree, old skin on top of a tube chassis
I'm looking for a classic mini estate here in rust central UK so the advice of getting a car inspected is good. I remember a couple buying a 'museum quality' car in one US show that was pretty much built from wire coathangers on the underside. Scammers will sell any old poo as a car in the search for your money.
I really like this guy.
Also i like the design of old US cars.
Greetings from Germany
go fuck yourself kraut
Greetings from 'Murica
Max & Moritz Ignore that hater! 🤡
Hello, from the USA! ✌
@@firecrow7973 deine Mudda du Nigga
firecrow 797 dude why
Buy one then.
I inspect cars for my customers both prepurchase and post. I've seen this quite often and some customers don't want to hear it. They actually get mad at me the further I dig into their bad impulsive decision.
Can't help someone else's choice, but I'm always available to resolve it
It is very entertaining and informative watching your videos. You provide a great service to the public.....I am 68 and retired from car repair,but, I want EVERYBODY to know I am an "A" tech in G.M. Chrysler and Mazda (rotary) cars. I am also an ASE Master Automotive Technician specializing in electrical / module / computer work...Enough about me..........You MUST listen to everything Tony says in his videos. He KNOWS what he is doing. Tell your friends. LEARN SOMETHING ! !.......Thank you,Tony. You are a blessing to the young people learning about cars.
A man that takes the time to roll his own cigarettes, takes their time to fix things right
You were in my recommendations glad I found you straight to the point no BS
Got yourself another subscriber
Bless you, brother for helping out us ignorant blokes and ladies.
I used to work for a company that installed aftermarket a.c. and restored factory a.c. we would get classic car dealer cars in and some of their work was pretty bad. But nice resell red paint and chrome wheels seemed to do the trick
Yes, If you put a dress on a pig it's still a pig underneath! Buyer beware weather it's 2 years old or 100 years old. have a look underneath. If you don't know squat about cars get someone who does to look.
Uncle Tony...……………….. without getting corny . You are walking history!!!!!!
keep making these videos cause your knowledge IS AMAZING!!! I'm 60 and a gearhead and have worked motorcycles and cars since 1969. Every video is like going to school,keep up the great work.
Love your advice owned same z28 last 30 years .you showed me stuff I would have never thought of keep up the great advice
Always loved the old Muscle cars... But once there's rust someone is going to be constantly dealing with it.
Rust sucks. But with repairs done correctly it can be stopped. That doesn't mean patching, it means replacing all of the currently rusted metal and properly treating the rest. That is really labor intensive, very expensive and very time consuming. It usually only gets done on cars that are worth enough to do it to. Very few Roadrunners rise to that value.
Thanks for this video.Bought a car (Studebaker),an impulse buy.Nice paint,nice wheels gauges seats,etc.This was bought from out of state based only on photos taken of the car (no underside pics).The aftermarket gauge set that was in the car wasn't even hooked up and I removed them without any tools!A lot of Mickey Mouse stuff topside,most of it I could fix.What I couldn't fix was underneath.The forward rear spring perch was nonexistent and a piece of 2" X 2" metal stock was welded in it's place.On the same side someone beat the shit out of the keyway and the axle key was actually welded to the axle! I bought the car in Sept of last year and only went around the block with it twice since that time.I've had it in the shop for a long while;I will get it right at some point,but it will take time and a whole lot more $$$$$.Disclaimer: Yes it's my fault,bought from a private party and I certainly got what I paid for (not much,lol).Thanks Uncle Tony for bringing this kind of crap to light!
Oh man, sorry for your fiasco on that thing...but, you're in good company. There are thousands of guys out there that can tell that same story with different names and slightly different details. Good luck with it man. Keep your eyes on the prize and just keep inching forward
That's the plan!!@@UncleTonysGarage
I dont think id ever buy a uni body car from the 70's.....too expensive to find one that doesn't have these problems
lowbuckfabrication you only live once screw it and enjoy it
I'm an auto interior tech for 40 plus years and some of the things I have repair that just came from another shop are mind blowing. Thanks Tony fight the good fight.
Great video. In 1974 I was given my grandfather's 1963 Dodge Dart w/ a 170 slant six.. I drove that car through my senior year of high school and 4 years of college. Even though it was rusted nearly in half, I loved that car. I always wondered why it just pulled so smoothly in 2nd gear, thanks for the lesson. Even to this day I want to build a 170 performance motor and put it in an old Dodge or Plymouth. I really enjoyed your video and you got me thinking about a project now that I'm retire. Thank you.
Can’t ever trust “Classic Car Dealers” half the time they sell “Clones”
Don't trust any car dealer. Ever. For any reason.
If you idiots can't tell the difference on your own go buy a bycicle, don't blame car dealers for your lack of knowledge, now if a car dealer is a flat ass lier and knowlingly is trying to screw ya that's a diffrent story .
@@ljbrizo true lol
...the problem isn't really if they sell a "clone"...the problem is if they don't TELL you it's a "clone".....
What’s a “clone?”
I need an uncle tony. I miss living up in NY and having a guy for everything.
I seen one that someone actually sprayed foam into the frame body filled sanded then undercoating it to hide it.
You Sir, are a consummate professional, someone with integrity who takes a pride in his work. Very entertaining video.
2 videos in and already subbed. Straight to the content without the pre-content nonsense chatter. I only wish I'd found this channel sooner.
The wizards in the woods of Kentucky killed me Lol.
The guy who engineered the distributor seems like a nifty guy if you ask me.
He built it instead of replacing lmao!! Use the stick Willow!
Where did you get that shirt?? I cant find schmediums for the life of me
With the little screwdriver and a cigarette on his hand, definitely I can trust him.
Dang I'm pissed I just found this channel! I sure wish I had someone I could trust like this in Fort Worth! You go UTG!
I wish you most success on UA-cam!
Great video. I owned a 70 Road Runner in 1973. Rust wasn't a problem rhen, but In a few years all Mopars rust. Love this guy.
Every flipper is evil. They’re taking an amazing deal to take someone else’s money that could have had a car they actually wanted for a good price.
If you don’t want/need the car don’t buy it. Worst part is every flipper is always every low baller. They refuse to take a cut on price, but demand price cuts on every one they buy.
Buy low sell high. It's the name of their game.
Moral of the story? Full pre sale inspection. End of
After seeing the rails I'm suprized you keep going under the car lol lucky Jack stands did not go thrue the frame Haha
That’s what I was thinking too
No kidding. It gave me flashbacks to a Cordoba I worked on back in the day.
Kicked the lift under the rails, hit the button and the lift went up but the car didn't. Hmmm...
Thanks for your videos. . . I hope all car folks even moderately interested in older vehicles watch and learn. I know next to nothing about MOPAR, but respect those that do. I drive and maintain a 60-year old VW and have convinced at least two friends/acquaintances from 'investing' in a 'vintage' Volkswagen that was NOT what it pretended to be. Thanks again, Tony :)
My father designed a 1/4" angle iron and plate exoskeleton for a '67 Mustang Convertible I owned. It's unibody rust was confined to part of the torque box and the lower half of the rocker panels. The unibody rails were fine, thankfully and the car doors would open with the front end jacked up. Rode fine afterwards:)-John in Texas
Woah boy, that looks like a Chrysler product and a rotten sub frame is bad news.
I'm looking at where the torsion bars are and you are correct. That car
is dangerously structurally unsound. I have always been careful when
buying any older car. I want to see it up on a lift. As you said, these older cars
are becoming more and more rare and more and more expensive. So,
a lot of less then honest people are doctoring them up with a fresh coat
of paint, some thicker oil in everything and selling them as what
they love to call 'survivors'. Right. You will be lucky to survive
the repair bills and possibly a drive if you buy these mechanical nightmares.
I hope your customer wins their case. I can not believe a vintage car dealer would
be unaware of such issues. Every dealer I know does a full inspection of every
car they sell, whether it is a year old or 60 years old.
Incompetence is also a majority of my work. 👍👍
never mess with a mopar expert lol love the vids man
My little sister bought a used Cavalier when she was 17 but we found out when she got it inspected that it was a car that was flood damaged. There were clear water level Markings on the door jams and the frame was 100% rusted out. The guy who was doing the inspection "helped her out" by disguising the rusted frame with undercoating and letting her car pass inspection. Well sure enough a few months later we're driving about 20mph down the road when the frame literally snapped in half and fell on top of the tires stopping us instantly. We were so lucky we were only going 20mph because my sister drives on the park way to get to work everyday and if that happened while she was going 80mph it could have easily killed her. That machanic should lose his inspection license for "helping her out"
My friend bought an old BMW, looks nice and sounded great. 2 weeks later the engine was falling apart and a mechanic said the thing was held together with paper clips.
Bananas and sawdust mixed with axle oil really quiets a grindey rear axle down...for a while.
Hey now some of the best gear heads are from Kentucky. Also we have a huge Mopar following.
I've been told it's ramcharger country. Just got one from mexico 1990. 111k tbi.cry9inch. 518 w\ od. Tallist dodge ever made.
i think the dealer should have to pay for a BRAND NEW frame to be fabbed (that's about 10k in the midwest) for that car or give a 100% refund
My nephew had something like that happen to him when he bought a 66 mustang. Whole rear subframe was rotted out, floor was so thin I am surprised his foot did not go through the floor. Covered in new carpet of course. And the list goes on and on.
Its nice to see someone actually giving good advice and knows what they are talking about. I have had too many cars come in because the owner thought they where a mechanic after watching a couple of UA-cam videos or even some helmet they hired cheap on Facebook because they "wanted to save some money".
Thanks for your video Tony it was very informative . Thumbs up
This man is right they are cashing in on your desire for a classic car. I have seen beautiful cars on Mecum sell for less than 10 k....And really rough cars on dealer sites 30k+....DO SOME SHOPPING there are LOTS of classic cars go to Bar&Jackson or Mecum Look on E Bay..
Holy crap, I'm 45 but are u my dad?....back in the 70s, he also would pick up cigarette butts and smoke them and said he worked on Buicks
Lol
Just stumbled on your channel a few days ago & so far I love it. You got my sub.
Ah , Uncle Tony you are spot on as usual. Car flippers are the worst, incompetent mechanics are a close second., Every time I am looking at the underside of a old car, and I see fresh paint, or undercoat. I get nervous. Almost every old car I have been involved in., The first thing I have to is straighten out the electrical. Then front end work is almost always required. Go thru the brake system. Get the engine running right ( many times requiring the removal of " the BIG cam " ) Get the trans shifting properly. Then the car is roadworthy. Most of these projects that I find myself asshole deep in were " perfect , needs nothing , drive it to California , cars. " Thanks for your videos Tony .
If a dealer ever has a hard time with me wanting to have a car lifted up for a undercarriage inspection, I take that as a red flag; especially if the car is some kind of vintage classic and it is being sold as a roll off the lot type of deal.
Hey Monza
Thanks for taking time out of your busy schedule to rant
An ice pick works if it goes threw back off or talk them way down in price
I threw a ball, & walk through doorways.
A magnet also helps to find metal on 1/4 panels/doors/fenders etc. If the magnet falls off, you have a bondo bucket, and you should run away from it....
Yeah most guys aren’t going to let you hit there car with a ice pick. These are 50 year old plus cars, you can feel and see frame rust, there are plenty of holes to feel or see dirt in frames.
If somebody takes a pick to my car, they better buy it.
Great Vid. More people need to see stuff like this. Some people pay top dollar for classics but never actually have someone with a bit of knowledge to come to check them out with them. Here is a quick story, 1967 Barracuda beautiful looking car, the price was right. Had a new paint job that looked well done. It came into the shop to get a look over and something didn't seem right with the paint. Noticed a couple small bubbles, could have been some contaminants on the body maybe the painter missed it. Easy fix take a day. But as soon as we started to dig in the paint seemed to come off too easy and suddenly a big chunk fell off, dinner plate size of paint just fell off. Time to investigate, the color did not adhere to the primer at all. We were literally able to blow the paint off with air. Imagine if the owner was driving down the road (this car was ridiculously fast) and all the paint just flying off. If you are buying a classic car bring someone that knows about them it could save you thousands of dollars.
You have to be so careful buying a classic car. Most of them have been tarted up to look pretty to sell. Be CAREFULL buyers and LISTEN to tony i have been in the trade for 30 YEARS but all ways listen to PEOPLE with experience or you COULD get SHAFTED badly ,, great vid tony son ,,