Roger Penrose - Forbidden crystal symmetry in mathematics and architecture

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  • @M.-.D
    @M.-.D 4 роки тому +129

    So incredible to see Professor Penrose win the Nobel Prize.
    One of the greatest minds.

    • @StaP876
      @StaP876 4 роки тому

      It's really nice to listen to him. I love his universe.

    • @Ungtartog
      @Ungtartog 3 роки тому +1

      The dude is pushing 90 and still razor sharp!

    • @vhawk1951kl
      @vhawk1951kl 2 роки тому +1

      you understand what "incredible" means?
      apparently not

    • @M.-.D
      @M.-.D 2 роки тому +1

      @@vhawk1951kl unbelievable as in no murmurs seemed to be hinting at his selection.

  • @petebop
    @petebop 5 місяців тому +2

    Just wow, such a brilliant display of a truly intellectual human, proving their intuition with math! The passion and humility! Thousands of years of thoughts collected and dissected to find the beautiful "chaotic" symmetry around us, bravo Sir!

  • @debszta2
    @debszta2 4 роки тому +134

    Roger Penrose: The man that got into science because he liked to light things on fire when he was a kid. Love this guy.

    • @jacobjorgenson9285
      @jacobjorgenson9285 4 роки тому +7

      And his father and two brothers are scientist and another is a chess grand master.

    • @truthneverchangeswakeup2762
      @truthneverchangeswakeup2762 4 роки тому +6

      Don't most guys🤭 He's so serious trying to show this "phenomenon"? Just look at Snowflakes, not one alike I've been told.
      " If you only knew the magnificence of the 3,6,9, then you would have the Key to the Universe. " Nikola Tesla 🕊️

    • @jakeford9073
      @jakeford9073 4 роки тому +7

      Yer my dad was a leading virologist and he got into science because he like blowing stuff up.
      He made a hydrogen bomb and blew up the shed and caught his room on fire a few times...
      I think it's quite common among scientists lol

    • @truthneverchangeswakeup2762
      @truthneverchangeswakeup2762 4 роки тому +3

      @@jakeford9073
      Reminds of my brother, Mike making lye bombs that required aluminum foil. And our Great Auntie's 1962 Comet with the paint burnt off the hood.. Big patches right down to the bare metal.. P. S. Our Great Grandmother made soap hence the lye availability 🤣

    • @life42theuniverse
      @life42theuniverse 4 роки тому +2

      Combustion is fascinating. I enjoyed restarting the campfire in the morning from the coals just with air and kindling. Later I learned it was oxidation and latent heat.

  • @mwilson14
    @mwilson14 6 років тому +18

    I'm almost 15 minutes in and I'm totally engrossed into the lecture. This is tremendously fascinating and informative. This fully explains the observations I've made under the microscope of my synthetic corundum (ruby and sapphire) as well as the formations observed in natural corundum. I'll probably watch this several more times to take it all in. We're lucky as a society to have resources like this available for free.

  • @unemployicus
    @unemployicus 3 місяці тому +1

    I can listen to Sir Roger Penrose talk for hours, and that's why I do.

  • @jeanqnguyen4542
    @jeanqnguyen4542 6 років тому +8

    Love his hand drawn and written overhead slides, no one does it anymore

  • @unvergebeneid
    @unvergebeneid 11 років тому +270

    Somehow, when something famous is named after a person, I always assume that this person is dead. It always amazes me when I find out that not only is the person still alive, I actually get to hear a talk by them!

    • @MrBollocks10
      @MrBollocks10 5 років тому +10

      Still going!!
      Like a Duracell bunny.

    • @prototype8137
      @prototype8137 4 роки тому +3

      What fascinates you about him? Ive heard a few lectures and hes apart of humanities problem. Pushing bs black hole theory, dark matter, and other occult symbolism as many of these "famous" do. Science is intentionally attacking empathy and we see it having effect in the world. There is no denying this. The impact that these people have on the next gen is real and kids dont know better. Apparently some adults are still indoctrinated into our upside system and cant see the problems. Its complicated but this man is no hero and no genius. Living a life dictated by memorization and numbers does things to people too.

    • @iamjimgroth
      @iamjimgroth 4 роки тому +25

      @@prototype8137 Are you quite alright? You sound like you might have hit your head on something. You should get that looked at by a professional.

    • @dionysianapollomarx
      @dionysianapollomarx 4 роки тому +10

      @@prototype8137 tool, that isn't how to refute his entire body of work.

    • @jackcascione6137
      @jackcascione6137 4 роки тому

      )

  • @ElMauber
    @ElMauber Рік тому +1

    Imagine seeing these patterns implemented in modern architecture. Absolutely mind blowing Mr. Penrose, bravo! 👏🏼

  • @shuddupeyaface
    @shuddupeyaface 3 роки тому +1

    To be is to encompass a space. To encompass a space, you have to equally displace. The two realities are fundamentally intertwined. Thank you Mr Newton.

  • @ddaro_ss
    @ddaro_ss 9 років тому +19

    I initially wanted to stop the video at around 8 mins in but - contrary to some comments complaining about how boring the talk was - i just got so engrossed that I finished the whole thing. The slides may have limited the talk in some ways (IMO mainly just time-wise) but without the slides we wouldn't have the awesomeness that was 26:00 to 28:00. A powerpoint simply wouldn't have the same oomph factor.
    In any case, it's always inspiring to see someone so passionate about their work.

    • @xrisku
      @xrisku 7 років тому

      Greg Queen of Everything schizophrenia is believed to be a defect in the brain in regards to timing. unlike your comment which is just ugly.

  • @glutinousmaximus
    @glutinousmaximus 10 років тому +17

    Roger is perhaps one of the unsung heroes of the 20th Century. His work is brilliant and his book "The emperor's new brain" is a triumph. I corresponded with him a few years ago, and he is a very down-to-earth guy. Good stuff.

  • @gwahli9620
    @gwahli9620 5 років тому +65

    On videos like this, even the ads are more classy. I got an ad from a lab equipment company.

    • @mokopa
      @mokopa 4 роки тому +1

      Did you buy?

    • @gwahli9620
      @gwahli9620 4 роки тому +2

      @@mokopa No. We're just a software company and have no need for that kind of equipment.

    • @gordonrussell9110
      @gordonrussell9110 4 роки тому

      why you not using ad blocker?

    • @gwahli9620
      @gwahli9620 4 роки тому +3

      @@gordonrussell9110 For ethical reasons.

    • @Sam-xg3mr
      @Sam-xg3mr 4 роки тому

      I got an ad for the Reno 9-1-1 reboot. So much for that theory.

  • @mark11967AD
    @mark11967AD 3 роки тому +9

    I always had trouble understanding math teachers with the exception of a few. Mr. Penrose would definitely fall in the latter category. Wonderful almost magical quality of his connection to mathematics. Universal or infinite patterns of symmetries or near perfect are indeed fascinating and probably very relevant to future discoveries of great import.

    • @brendawilliams8062
      @brendawilliams8062 2 роки тому

      You have to be able in your minds eye to paint a Rembrandt before you put your sights on modern art. He is genius in that he relates it to math.

  • @NathanOkun
    @NathanOkun 5 років тому +2

    What you are seeing here is TRUE GENIUS -- someone to whom problems that stop others in their tracks are merely somewhat tedious, not barriers to solutions. "The improbable we do at once, the impossible takes a little longer" in a person...

  • @jacderida
    @jacderida 11 років тому +28

    I've watched this twice now. It's inspired me to take on a wee project to do some programming to generate some of these tiling patterns. Fascinating lecture!

    • @TheParadoxOfParadox
      @TheParadoxOfParadox 5 років тому +1

      Brilliant to hear! Did you ever end up with any code? Is any of it available on github or anywhere else? :)

  • @DIMentiaMinecraft
    @DIMentiaMinecraft 10 років тому +170

    Whatever you do, don't take the stairs to his office.

    • @SongbirdAlom
      @SongbirdAlom 4 роки тому +1

      I laughed really hard. Thank you.

  • @jach8047
    @jach8047 4 роки тому +2

    Sir Roger never fails to amaze me. Thank you.

  • @Ungtartog
    @Ungtartog 3 роки тому +4

    I really want to use this pattern in some construction project. One of the cool things about it is that you do not *have* to do a layout first, or think too deeply about how you are meeting the edges of your field. You can't exactly buy penrose tiles from the flooring section at Home Depot.. so it would mean cutting and wasting a lot of tile.. and then you have to figure a way to score the alignment patterns on them in an attractive way. Almost easier to buy a kiln and make the tile from scratch yourself. But then I had another thought! To put this in concrete.. all you need is two stamps! Much faster way to create a penrose floor.

  • @mcee823
    @mcee823 6 років тому +8

    Just love the Royal Institute! Penrose, Dawkins, going to sleep with geniuses!
    From Faraday and keeping the standard high. Makes you proud. For everyone, even dummies like me can enjoy it. Love it, keep it up!

  • @warner631
    @warner631 Рік тому

    i found myself short of breath a number of times. This is absolutely something of great importance.

  • @TheNefari
    @TheNefari 11 років тому +14

    It's really impressive if you move the the top pattern and come up with stripes.
    And i kinda got the impression, that there is more to it than that. If you rotate the top shape, it almost looks like it is zooming in on the pattern.

    • @AGamesCorner
      @AGamesCorner 10 років тому +2

      that is the exact feeling i got. and when you are zoomed in at maximum the strips appear.

    • @ivanjelenic5627
      @ivanjelenic5627 6 років тому +1

      he did say you can make it as big as you want it, i guess you missed that

  • @JohnDlugosz
    @JohnDlugosz 11 років тому +106

    Some years ago, I wanted to have a small bathroom floor tiled with Penrose rombic style tiles, but every contractor ran away screaming.
    It's interesting to see that people have actually done that now.

    • @kennyd6738
      @kennyd6738 6 років тому +5

      John Długosz kept you from running scared at the price

    • @brianmackey7682
      @brianmackey7682 5 років тому +2

      What prevents you from doing your own tiles?

    • @scottleft3672
      @scottleft3672 5 років тому

      @@brianmackey7682 Usually the pitch of the bedding.

    • @poorfa4s
      @poorfa4s 5 років тому +5

      I am a flooring contractor as a side job--you would have made my day asking me to do that.

    • @A_Man_In_His_Van
      @A_Man_In_His_Van 5 років тому

      Easy job, unless you have to hand cut the tiles. If you can buy them as a working kit no problem, it lays itself out.

  • @drcovell
    @drcovell 8 років тому +16

    Interesting intersection of disciplines. Mathematics as art and vice-versa.

    • @ebrelus7687
      @ebrelus7687 4 роки тому

      That's the essence of art. Showing the mathematical harmony of world, thats the utility of art.
      Random shapes without meaning or natural pattern is not art. The thing that pleases eye in art is the harmony, the proportions, even in the human forms, facial shapes.
      Art is reproduction of natural order, laws, patterns. Other part of it is visualization of ideas but still meeting the overall laws. And this is the essence of civilization - building on natural foundation - not destroying things, doing opaque, rebelling against the essence of world or to prove loss of own basic roots or human reflexes (and most of modern "art" is exactly that, meaningless ugliness, betrayal of world creation laws to prove own childish ungreatfullness to the world which brought us to be, to build on ruins of the old/real world, neverending progress for sake of progress, everlooking for a different, new, extreme in selfhate, sadomasohism, insane objective of disproving basic intuition that art for art is not art; formlesness, antiform is the modern cult of soulless aberrant nihilism).
      The best crossovers between math and nature brought us the best human inventions. The looking for unreal, utopias, desacralisation of nature brought us communism, cultural destruction & unnatural magic-pill-based, not treating causes of diseases caricature of medicine.
      Good day to you :-) Take your daily dose of sun or fishoil/vitamin D please. Take care.

  • @whoeveriam0iam14222
    @whoeveriam0iam14222 11 років тому +67

    "this point" "that point" doesn't really work without a pointer for the camera =[

  • @TheRoyalInstitution
    @TheRoyalInstitution  11 років тому +33

    If you want to share the incredible moiré pattern demonstration, we've posted it here: Incredible Moiré Patterns!

    • @Beach_comber
      @Beach_comber 9 років тому +1

      +MrAaronvee "The Royal Institution" is short for "The Royal Institution of Great Britain". It's a proper name. The RI has different aims from the Royal Society. Plenty of FRSs also belong to the RI. Eric Lathwaite was never director of the RI, he just gave a few children's lectures there.

    • @uusees7907
      @uusees7907 8 років тому

      +MrAaronvee childrens lectures!! my oh my! the pseudo effort just as such effort. interesting wáy to worthy it attention. not wronging none nor is it credible ya ...consern..? ... aaaw!

    • @neurophilosophers994
      @neurophilosophers994 4 роки тому +2

      The thing I love about Penrose is that he loves mathematics and he has no clue that most of the people that he is explaining it to have no idea what he's talking about. It reminds me of myself explaining anything to anyone.

  • @KozmykJ
    @KozmykJ 5 років тому +2

    I particularly like the Rhomboid pattern with it's suggestions of 3D that jump out as one focuses on different loci.

  • @Spiller333
    @Spiller333 3 роки тому +1

    He deserves the Nobel prize simply for tileing the plain asymmetrically.

  • @zagyex
    @zagyex 4 роки тому +1

    What I like the most about this is that its consequences has lead to thoughts on consciousness and then on to physics and so 'everything'

  • @greencoder1594
    @greencoder1594 4 роки тому +21

    20:54 Tiling the plane without repetiton: «I knew you can do it with five tiles, then I started fiddling around for a bit and realized you can do it with two»
    Some people are paid to fiddle around and make creative progress.

    • @TripcussionShorts
      @TripcussionShorts 4 роки тому +3

      Hahaha
      yes specially when they have a knighthood
      not us mere mortals

    • @daieast6305
      @daieast6305 4 роки тому +1

      ah yes, those people are called fiddlers or maybe more often violinists

  • @eamonnsiocain6454
    @eamonnsiocain6454 6 років тому +24

    The Moiré effect is particularly interesting.

  • @emasolie4135
    @emasolie4135 3 роки тому

    Love geometry, and especially love Sir Roger, precious man.

  • @xutamm
    @xutamm 10 років тому +6

    No rulers used in the construction of images? Knowledge and intuition always present in his modus operandi. Nice stuff to show to young people involved with science. Not everything has to be computable...Why pen and paper still have their power? Hands on experience adds something...

  • @TechNed
    @TechNed 6 років тому

    What a wonderful and enlightening presentation. One feels that there are more applications as yet unknown, for this.

  • @wayneyadams
    @wayneyadams 4 роки тому +4

    I studied crystal symmetries and point groups as they relate to electron diffraction spectroscopy and still found this lecture incredibly difficult to follow. I think the problem is that he moves along so quickly without explanation of so many of the things he says are "obvious." They are not "obvious" to the average people watching this video who have never had an advanced Chemistry (or maybe Physics) class. PhD does not necessarily mean good teacher.

    • @jonathanwalther
      @jonathanwalther 2 роки тому

      The case about "obvious" seems to be a maths thing. I remember a math professor who used the word "trivial" a lot, when most of the students didn't find the topic/proof at hand trivial at all.
      I learned: there are us mere mortals and there are some mathematical minds, capable of highly abstract thinking.

    • @brendawilliams8062
      @brendawilliams8062 2 місяці тому

      I had none of the subjects. I understand

  • @MadderMel
    @MadderMel 5 років тому +2

    I love his quaint hand drawn diagrams !

  • @tushkoli
    @tushkoli 5 років тому

    This is so simple yet fascinating!

  • @moonzestate
    @moonzestate 4 роки тому +10

    The ancient Greek biographer Plutarch quoted Plato as writing, “God geometrizes continually.”

  • @Max_Le_Groom
    @Max_Le_Groom 5 років тому +2

    I'm so grateful for this. Thank you so much. 😊👏

  • @peterandrew2097
    @peterandrew2097 Рік тому +1

    Please look carefully at the surface patterns of the Maclura Pomifera, called osage orange, spherical seed pod. Hypothesize that the five-fold Penrose pattern may form the basis of its seemingly confusing design. Requires careful analysis. What do you think?

  • @zzasdfwas
    @zzasdfwas 4 роки тому +9

    "Something doesn't look quite right. That tile on the end doesn't work with the one on the other end." I'm not convinced that Penrose is human.

  • @fretlord4201
    @fretlord4201 10 років тому +7

    This really makes me wonder about the difference between dimension and perspective. Is a cube really a cube? How many more sides might be out of sight, or merely an illusion caused by relative movement?
    At certain points during the rotation, it looks a lot like the prime number spiral.
    Neat stuff!

  • @SoccerQuiz
    @SoccerQuiz 4 роки тому +1

    And let me tell you that no one (99.8%) have finished watching the vid tel the end
    It need a lot of passion to understand the rotation & translation of structure
    Great Job Sir ❤️

  • @23Fibonacci
    @23Fibonacci 5 років тому +27

    6:00 Roger: "Straightforward..."
    Me: < rewinds to 4:00 >

    • @Apeskinny
      @Apeskinny 4 роки тому

      Steve Smith I get it....! Duh! Back to the beginning 8

  • @mrautistic2580
    @mrautistic2580 9 років тому +2

    If I could spend five years of my life on this kind of math, I would love it. For all those questioning where this math takes you...it can form the basis for some pretty sweet future tech.

    • @bluesewage980
      @bluesewage980 4 роки тому +2

      five years later! how do you view this subject now? I'm intrigued and glad that i stumbled upon this at the right time in space!

  • @OrangeJackson
    @OrangeJackson 9 років тому +13

    26:30 blew my mind.

    • @camrodam
      @camrodam 4 роки тому

      Truly a WTF moment

  • @jfreeman2927
    @jfreeman2927 5 років тому +2

    all my life I've searched for an asymmetric yet infinite grid. it's a basic unity that allows individuality by being infinite. a universe that is designed for both free will and determined fate-- a paradox. I understand why this kind of symmetry is forbidden. it undermines the orderly conformity that people find so comforting these days.

  • @pris0nergaming641
    @pris0nergaming641 5 років тому +3

    When he draws the green circles over the green pattern I see the seed of life. and in the end the fruit of life. Nice TY

  • @robdev89
    @robdev89 Рік тому +1

    Fascinating.

  • @jonjonsson6323
    @jonjonsson6323 4 роки тому

    For those who do not see a practical use, i say there is one major and that is infills of a stucture that may be 3d printed. All his first patterns are the typical infills nowdays and each has pros and cons. A good algorithm would make strong partsmat fast speed. So whats it gonna do for you? If we can get fdm printers as fast as resin, without the flaws resin printers have then the world would change a lot in terms of how we buy things. Ten years ago only enthusiasts printed, now consumer models exists and it has still a bit to go before we find real practical use as it takes time, but eventually we can print shoes when we want new etc. You can already do that but at a time or high cost. A proper infill algorithm would help the future.

  • @fsommen
    @fsommen 9 років тому +4

    This video shows how brilliant Professor Penrose really is.

  • @hansolo2121
    @hansolo2121 3 роки тому

    This man's comb over makes him a 'legend' indeed. Wow. Just WOW. And it is MC Escher who made him famous (not the other way around).

  • @nandakumarcheiro
    @nandakumarcheiro 5 років тому +1

    Crystal condensing symmetry breaking during lava condensation produces differential crystal veins as a function of temperature as applied in metal retrieved at different temperatures.

  • @keleighwolf
    @keleighwolf 5 років тому +1

    I wish he was more Escher in thinking & less an inelegant Chompsky simulacrum. Fractals exist as representations of sound as a commutable entity. More Parallax & Tycho Brahe. Then du Sautoy & black hole firewalls. Have a lovely day, Dr Cliff x

  • @marcos9204
    @marcos9204 3 роки тому +1

    So intelligently humble

  • @nandakumarcheiro
    @nandakumarcheiro 5 років тому

    Roger really wanted to show that the wobbling crystal symmetry is broken to have differential boundary of crystals for example as opal black crystal or rubies as differential veins of crystal condensing boundaries of lava as a function of temperature condensing differential.

  • @Baobei666
    @Baobei666 11 років тому +3

    Amazing. Transcript or reference of the articles mentionned would be great!

  • @amallee8825
    @amallee8825 5 років тому

    Very enjoyable... Would love to understand this more..

  • @FXTripazha
    @FXTripazha 4 роки тому

    Came here just for this guy. He is sooo cooool!! 😍

  • @SoccerQuiz
    @SoccerQuiz 4 роки тому

    Fall in love with structure & shapes, make u doing things like that

  • @KaliFissure
    @KaliFissure 3 роки тому

    5.and 12 are the combination for the dodecahedron which is the only polyhedron which allows vertex to same vertex uninterrupted surface path. Geodesic.

  • @FeliciteThosz
    @FeliciteThosz 8 місяців тому

    "No matter how big the region is, you can always find it in the other one." This threw me in relation to "there's more than one pattern possible" until I realized that identifying a region necessarily means reduction to a FINITE section (no matter how large) outside of which you could always create variation. Only if infinite patterns perfectly overlapped could you say that there is only one pattern. But you could have the same pattern for light years and light years of space, and then--bam!--variation.

  • @robertevans6218
    @robertevans6218 5 років тому

    I noticed that at time frame 27:59 when intersecting lines began to form that a fractal "cardioid" pattern may have been forming which implies that the "Phi" value may be at the "heart" of the crystalline structure.

  • @TarisRedwing
    @TarisRedwing 5 років тому

    Those granite and stainless steel tiles at the end are beautiful

  • @TripcussionShorts
    @TripcussionShorts 4 роки тому

    Thank You Sir Roger Pentagon Rose

  • @Kurtlane
    @Kurtlane 4 роки тому +1

    Does Mr. Penrose or anyone else have a book that describes all this in detail? This is great stuff, and I'd love to slowly read and savor it.
    Thanks.

  • @jh1859
    @jh1859 4 роки тому +1

    Kepler, Escher, and that Japanese bloke got so close to entering this garden path of delights.

  • @timelsen2236
    @timelsen2236 Рік тому

    PLEASE make a post on the relation between DIV GRAD at finite density charge sources and the relation of this to gravitational curvature for finite density mass distributions. For zero charge density DIV GRAD X=0, while for mass the mass on a rubber sheet model suggests negative (Gaussian) curvature in the surrounding vacuum, suggesting DIV g

  • @hawk0485
    @hawk0485 11 років тому +3

    stunning!

  • @Reynoldsrobert
    @Reynoldsrobert 5 років тому +1

    Reminds me of the multiple universe theory, which I think of in this way where one really fits inside of another, perhaps more complex one, ad infinitum.

  • @alexwilson8034
    @alexwilson8034 4 роки тому

    Honestly I find it incredibly charming that in 2015+ he STILL uses slide projectors instead of PowerPoint

  • @realcygnus
    @realcygnus 8 років тому +1

    superb content !

  • @robertm8246
    @robertm8246 10 років тому

    I was inspired to use this on the job - Penrose Tiling on a concrete floor

  • @daieast6305
    @daieast6305 4 роки тому

    can not wait for the 'forbidden' part

  • @SyriusStarMultimedia
    @SyriusStarMultimedia 4 роки тому

    There is a plane of existence made of the five Platonic solids, the tetrahedron, the cube, the octahedron, the dodecagon, and the icosahedron. Every color that you have never considered is reflected by and through these solids in this dimension. They are all one. I believe there is base set of colors and as a being that lives there moves, the solids roll like water without the being losing his or her appearance and then extra colors appear. It is radiantly brilliant but far from blinding. In fact, I don’t believe there is anything more beautiful. They and everything in their environment coexist inside one another as the solids, and the solids are them. When you speak of archeology, well you are speaking of an actual construct of a world that is all around you. You move through it at every instance. If you were to go into this plane strictly and see a loved one, then you would recognize that person. You would not hardly see someone you never knew. Don’t ask me why. I would caution you. Do not attempt to enter on your own. While there is a way to go to that place, you are not allowed; outside of a particular set of circumstances. Take that seriously. I don’t believe they would become violent but there is a being there that is solely responsible for security that you do not want to meet. And remember; no one lives on a blackboard or a PowerPoint display.

  • @clarkflavor
    @clarkflavor 8 років тому +1

    Awesome! I love this.

  • @yellowpanda04
    @yellowpanda04 7 років тому

    incredible stuff, very interesting thanks for posting this

  • @mohscorpion2
    @mohscorpion2 3 роки тому

    oh my , the man is a true genius

  • @arborsamurai
    @arborsamurai 5 місяців тому

    Marvelous!

  • @alpers.2123
    @alpers.2123 4 роки тому +1

    25:15 you can see a blurry pattern getting zoomed

  • @wordprocessbrian4497
    @wordprocessbrian4497 6 років тому +1

    Meta Magical Themas, by Douglas R Hoffstadtler, an abstract description of why it is forbidden is a bose einstien condensate process moment. In ,geometry in contrast to relativity, a radius in a process that generates two virtual radius, is the maximum value. three radius rebounds in growth back towards one radius. It never reaches four radius which stops the pattern needed to be crystalline. the equivalence of too much information needed to define system.

  • @parryphenalia1217
    @parryphenalia1217 4 роки тому

    What do I do with something like this? How do I apply it to my life? How do I make a job out of it? I assume this is a college lecture...? I absolutely love stuff like this. I remember being young and figuring out all of these patterns inside of numbers and shapes And had the hardest time describing it to people. Over the past few years I’ve gotten deep into numerology, gematria, Mandelbrot sets... the works. And I just have no idea what to do with it.

  • @skoky76
    @skoky76 7 років тому

    I like "Only recently it was solved what Kepler has suggested.... 400 years ago". What a theoretic.

  • @friendlydragon8999
    @friendlydragon8999 6 років тому

    Sir Roger Penrose is awesome as a brilient thinker

  • @syamsularifinmohamadyunus8144
    @syamsularifinmohamadyunus8144 3 роки тому

    Great sharing

  • @Palifiox
    @Palifiox 9 років тому +8

    I read about this 35+ years ago, but he lost me at 5 - 6 minutes. "This one", "that one." Which one is he talking about? Pointing at them might have helped.

    • @s7a2g65
      @s7a2g65 5 років тому

      Codenwarra Cove
      You have to experience the overlays around the 26min mark.

  •  5 років тому +1

    36:56 coincidentally entrance to the penrose (no relation)??? building in cambridge. Maybe it's all related via a hidden geometry of language, history and time.

    • @sofly7634
      @sofly7634 4 роки тому

      @Marc
      All I can add is that there's a hexagon on Saturn

  • @nextblain
    @nextblain 10 років тому +4

    Is there any way you can put where is Roger actually pointing at while he is showing his slides? I just seem to see a picture and I get confused where on the picture should I look when he is talking about it.

  • @mirusvet
    @mirusvet 10 років тому

    This many is simply amazing.

  • @0xde57
    @0xde57 Рік тому

    beautiful!

  • @aibrainlet8041
    @aibrainlet8041 5 років тому +1

    is this math the same causal reason we have 12 notes in a musical octave even though the intervals between them are not exactly precise? The patterns that emerge when plotting frequency ratios seems to be the same type of patterns here

    • @kakarotlifted7302
      @kakarotlifted7302 5 років тому

      Interesting.

    • @Alexagrigorieff
      @Alexagrigorieff 4 роки тому

      @@kakarotlifted7302 The reason for 12 notes in an octave is that the circle of fifth has 12 points. 1.5^12 ~ 130, which is very close (1/3 halftone) to 128 - 7 octaves. Intervals in well tempered 12 halftone chromatic scale are reasonably close to natural intervals.

  • @devi6501
    @devi6501 4 роки тому

    I often see forming, fractal-iterating starburst explosions of golden-white light that 1st ended in a flourish of Orbs. The original void end in a tiny mustard seed center point. It 1st started in 2000 after Shaktipat initiation, 8 ray starburst, then grew to 10, 12, 14, then in 2016, 16 ray with the outer ring of pearl-orbs. It has since double ringed, iterated, expanded into a vast field of Orbs, just like you ball of flowers. Question: What is this, and what does it mean. I have commissioned a computer graphic artist 4-panel illustration of the basic progression if any mystic scientist type from this royal society cares to inquire. Cheers.

  • @salimhuerta2699
    @salimhuerta2699 6 років тому

    Roger is an absolutely wonderful human being top quality that one haha

  • @holdmybeer
    @holdmybeer 7 років тому

    I love his tie.

  • @andrewroberthook3310
    @andrewroberthook3310 4 роки тому

    Concidering atomic structure exhibits co similarities
    We can also see this exhibited within language
    As all structure is a form of language projection and overlap

  • @101wormwood
    @101wormwood 4 роки тому

    amazing. rivaling the math in ancient structures or is it more complex just not as massive

  • @luisgalleguillos4868
    @luisgalleguillos4868 5 років тому

    Johannes Kepler thought the entire universe and the Solar System could be described with an arangement of geometric figures duch as cubes spheres and pyramids. He had a wooden model of such figures to describe the Solar System but it could not model the movement of planets. It was the effort of Tycho Brahe who for thirty years had taken measurements of the position of the planets that made Kepler dispose of his model and come up with three simple equations to describe de Solar System.

  • @Potus4547
    @Potus4547 5 років тому

    EXCEPT if the crystals are TIME crystals that form BONDs with particles from the PAST. therefore any asymmetry above 6 will form a TIME cristal.

  • @wah3094
    @wah3094 7 років тому

    Hi everyone! I would like to complain about an issue that bothers me now for a while. It has nothing to do with the video that you're watching, but still might be off your interest. I am a fan off you tube and watch quiet a lot of videos and the ones I don't watch straight away, I save in my "watch later" list. In this list used to be a button called " remove watched videos", which since a while has vanished! It used to be very useful and I strongly recommend to you tube to bring it back!! If you should feel the same as me, please copy and paste this in as many comments as possible and who knows, we might get what we want after all! Thanks for your time and participation!!😊

  • @je25ff
    @je25ff 3 роки тому

    "That was rather straightforward" - Audience nervously laughs..

  • @danielash20
    @danielash20 4 роки тому

    When growing crystals in sounds the shape is very difficult to get x the most common form of surface that with no vibrational effect has become the same as the magnetic styles...