Why R-hop isn’t always the way

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  • Опубліковано 18 гру 2020
  • I used R-hop for a very long time and I use it on almost every build but there are situations when it's not optimal to use it. Long story short, if your nozzle moves forward too fast (DSG with cut tappet plate, some HPA engine with pressure operated nozzles etc.) you would want some degree of hop pressure so the bb can always be chambered to the same depth and not roll past it.
    With a steady hopup arm and nub, traditional bucking can be fairly consistent, so don't be afraid to switch back to just a normal bucking if you're using r-hop and is having vertical hop inconsistencies.
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  • @SiliconeSword
    @SiliconeSword 3 роки тому +2

    That was quite helpful, looks like I'll be polishing part of my barrel and possibly change to a G&G blue bucking.

    • @wyz2285
      @wyz2285  3 роки тому +1

      What's your setup? I'm not saying no to use R-hop, it's just some situations where your nozzle is pushing too hard and you should check that first.

    • @SiliconeSword
      @SiliconeSword 3 роки тому +1

      I have a Polarstar F2 with a
      MAXX ME Pro
      Lambda 6.01X469 barrel
      G&G blue flat hopped
      Elvishtac R-hop
      Plastic gearbox
      Integrally suppressed barrel
      Inside of a CYMA Platinum 14.5 M4.
      I have tried both the R-hop and a fresh Maple Leaf 75° bucking, and the accuracy is the same, pretty bad. I feel that the issue is probably bucking hardness, but I don't have another bucking to test, so just a theory.
      But, when I am firing .48g ammo, the vertical grouping is great, so I feel that this confirms what I was thinking abd what you said.
      I have purchased the entire array of HopChop tools from Shapeways to aid in the cutting of some tubing I have, so hopefully that fixes my issue.
      The tubing that I have is the legendary McMaster Carr 6X9 70° clear blue(IR-hop) tubing, and it is very hard and very wear resistant, yet it is sticky enough to gather fuzz from a pillow, unlike the Maple Leaf 75° and that R-hop patch I have.
      I will probably have those jigs by mid January, and I probably will have Mastered them by the end of January, so I guess I'll do a follow-up comment or a post on ASF.
      Thx for the video btw, I didn't have a clue what was going on before, especially with all the bad advise I was getting, especially saying that I should throw away my barrel and chamber and buy full Krytac.

  • @M16A1srawesome
    @M16A1srawesome 3 роки тому

    I have no luck with prometheus blue buckings. Even in a prometheus chamber on a prometheus barrel they don't seem to want to feed. Granted, mine is also quite old (2015 or earlier).

  • @underkor141
    @underkor141 3 роки тому +1

    When is nov going to release his newest gun?

  • @DerKrawallkeks
    @DerKrawallkeks 3 роки тому +1

    Interesting. Hey wyz, since I'm not into professional Airsoft, I have a question: Do you use brushless motors already in AEGs?

    • @wyz2285
      @wyz2285  3 роки тому +3

      Yes, in some situations. To my knowledge the T238 controller is optimized for brushless motors (something to do with active brake). I'd say it's pretty cool if you don't feel like open up your aeg, just drop in one of these brushless and you'll be instantly shooting 30+ rps. However if you enjoy DIY and mess with your gun, the money is better spent on a good controller.

    • @DerKrawallkeks
      @DerKrawallkeks 3 роки тому +2

      @@wyz2285 Alright, interesting. I just had the thought in general, cause in all RC uses, brushed motors are basically gone since the speed controllers have become very cheap for brushless. And they're more efficient, powerful and don't wear out(no brushes).

    • @wyz2285
      @wyz2285  3 роки тому +2

      @@DerKrawallkeks The main issue that it's more complex for airsoft is, for airsoft you need more accurate control of your motor core position. For RC you only need to control the speed and on/off. For airsoft you want pre-cocking, burst etc, which all demands precise gear position. Traditional motors allow active braking, but brushless is a lot harder to do so. I might do a video on them as I do have a couple brushless motors of different brands.

    • @DerKrawallkeks
      @DerKrawallkeks 3 роки тому

      @@wyz2285 Alright. This sounds counterintuitive, because regular motors have no position control of the rotor and only slight braking. A brushless motor has more breaking and most importantly, it has actual control over the position, since the controller has to switch the coils in the first place to even make it turn.

    • @wyz2285
      @wyz2285  3 роки тому

      @@DerKrawallkeks The issue is, there is no aeg controller for brushless yet, so the brushless motors has to have all the needed controllers and stuff built into the motor to simulate a DC motor, but since it's not a DC motor, Active braking of normal aeg controllers would potentially burn the brushless since you are essentially reversing polarity on the controller of the motor (as if you connect the battery the wrong way in a RC car or drone). And by having the electronics on board, the actual motor is smaller and also each unit is more expensive. So if you use a brushless motor, and not pair it with a controller, you're not gaining much, if any advantage compared to a DC motor+ controller. Once we have proper aeg controllers dedicated to brushless, that's a different story.

  • @ziqianfei5939
    @ziqianfei5939 2 роки тому

    Master wyz, I am currently building my mcx to the best accuracy for 0.25bb. I had Pdi 6.05 inner barrels and stock chamber. Since I’m in Japan, the muzzle velocity is limited to 95m/s. I was trying out 長掛けホップ( long contact hop bucking?) from miyagawa, but it did not show a significant improvement on accuracy (or maybe no improvement). As for your experience m, what hop bucking and nub would you recommend for my set up to reach best accuracy? Thank you master.

    • @wyz2285
      @wyz2285  2 роки тому

      Maybe your gun is already accurate? It's 1J in Japan so with 0,25 a A4 paper grouping at 40m is good.

    • @ziqianfei5939
      @ziqianfei5939 2 роки тому

      @@wyz2285 I haven’t reach that accuracy yet, 30m a4 grouping now

  • @democracy2005
    @democracy2005 3 роки тому +1

    hi