What Makes Gleam Great? - Microtonal Music Analysis

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  • Опубліковано 21 жов 2024
  • Harmony Hacker by Sevish is a memorable microtonal album from 2017 full of that extraordinary dance music for which Sevish is known. With over 500k views on UA-cam, Gleam is perhaps the most famous song from that album featuring R&B style chord progressions in 22-tone equal temperament and a 5/4 beat that gets your head bobbing. In this video we'll go through the song one xenharmonic idea at a time. (Remember to turn on cc for subtitles if my accent makes it hard to follow.)
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 64

  • @oscargill423
    @oscargill423 2 роки тому +78

    It's finally happening. Sevish is being analysed. This is a happy time.

    • @stephenweigel
      @stephenweigel 2 роки тому +7

      You're gonna love next year then

  • @stephenweigel
    @stephenweigel 2 роки тому +52

    This analysis is fantastic - hope this gets a lot a lot of views, it deserves just as much as listening in, or leon waves, or any of that other stuff

  • @AARVMUSIC
    @AARVMUSIC 2 роки тому +46

    This is probably the most complex music analysis I've seen on UA-cam. The amount of work it has is insane. Bravo!

  • @05degrees
    @05degrees 2 роки тому +13

    !!!!111 😳
    Won’t say I understood a half of the analysis but it gave a lot of insight even to me un-theoretical person.

  • @PrestusHood
    @PrestusHood 2 роки тому +8

    Cant believe UA-cam recommended this gem to me with only 150 views, great analysis

  • @egilsandnes9637
    @egilsandnes9637 Рік тому +6

    Gleam is unironically one of my favourite pieces of music. So happy to hear your analysis! 😊

  • @elijahberegovsky8957
    @elijahberegovsky8957 2 роки тому +17

    I’m speechless! One of my all time favourite songs transcribed and analyzed into unconsciousness. I never thought this day would come. Great work, keep it up!

  • @nickvuci
    @nickvuci 2 роки тому +10

    I thought this was going to be good….it’s amazing!! Great job 👏

  • @cubicinfinity2
    @cubicinfinity2 Рік тому +2

    It took a long time to find the music I like.

  • @tommyfryer5283
    @tommyfryer5283 2 роки тому +11

    Lovely stuff, so good to see a deep dive into a song I’ve listened to loads!
    I think I found the piano roll the most intuitive way to visualise what’s going on (a lot of it was still over my head). I really hope this niche takes off, I reckon it’s got legs too.

  • @HearBetweenTheLines
    @HearBetweenTheLines 2 роки тому +8

    Awesome work!

  • @TheDominator
    @TheDominator 2 роки тому +3

    this is just incredible

  • @Tianalado
    @Tianalado Рік тому +2

    A quienes comparten el conocimiento les estoy eternamente agradecido

  • @Wegnerrobert2
    @Wegnerrobert2 2 роки тому +7

    Please do Droplets next!

  • @quartertoneharmony7100
    @quartertoneharmony7100 2 роки тому +3

    What great analysis!

  • @itgtrumpet14
    @itgtrumpet14 2 роки тому +3

    Great video! I had found this song a little while back and it popped up in my playlist today. I always love an analysis video! Keep up the great work :)

  • @markfdesimone
    @markfdesimone 2 роки тому +3

    This was wonderful! There's so much goodness to be had.

  • @nepdep1945
    @nepdep1945 2 роки тому +8

    This is my first time ever seeing 22EDO music theory. I'm stoked; is there a software where I can make xenharmonic music?

    • @lumi-musictheory3476
      @lumi-musictheory3476  2 роки тому +4

      Sevish and I use Bitwig. I'm also working on a web based tracker: lumipakkanen.com/tracker/

    • @phlubblebubble
      @phlubblebubble 2 роки тому +3

      I use FL Studio and a handful of synths. One approach I like to use is to take two standard guitars, insert some sort of object under the strings so that the octave is at the 11th fret, then tune the A string to the 5th fret of the E string, D to the 4th fret of A, G to the 5th of D, B to the 4th of G, and E to the 4th fret of B. On the other guitar, do the same thing, only tune it 1\22 higher so that when you put them together, you approximate the full 22 tone scale. For my "false bridge" I use a #2 pencil sitting on my pickup (you may need something thicker for an acoustic). The reason I say "approximate" is because the fret placement isn't perfect, so in the middle of the 11 tone chromatic scale the notes are slightly sharp, but it's totally workable.

  • @DrTacoPHD665
    @DrTacoPHD665 6 місяців тому

    How have I never seen this video before

  • @ArmoksHolyBeard
    @ArmoksHolyBeard 2 роки тому +2

    Excellent work!

  • @Munggoon
    @Munggoon 2 роки тому +4

    Finally a decent analysis!

    • @Munggoon
      @Munggoon 11 днів тому

      The algorithm brought me here after 2 years

  • @HugoMartinez-jp4il
    @HugoMartinez-jp4il Рік тому +1

    Wonderful keep it up 🎉

  • @degan191
    @degan191 2 роки тому +3

    Can't wait 🤩

  • @saulvillarados312
    @saulvillarados312 2 роки тому +4

    WOW, we need more of this man, btw, do you have the original midi? , I'd love to have a copy

    • @lumi-musictheory3476
      @lumi-musictheory3476  2 роки тому +2

      I do, but you'd better ask for it from Sevish directly. You can find us on Discord: sevish.com/discord

  • @LorxusIsAFox
    @LorxusIsAFox 2 роки тому +4

    I've been trying to find this with no success - what's a superpyth cycle?

    • @lumi-musictheory3476
      @lumi-musictheory3476  2 роки тому +3

      It will take couple of videos to properly explain, but briefly. By saying "superpyth cycle" I'm referring to a chord progression that would drift in pitch by 20480/19683 (the 5-limit superpyth comma) if played in just intonation, but is tempered out in the current tuning. If you break up the comma into powers of two, three and five and substitute the corresponding numbers of edo steps they create a unison (0 edo steps total) in 22edo. The graphics quickly show how this drift happens on the 5-limit lattice (topic for another upcoming video).

  • @nowandxenpodcast
    @nowandxenpodcast 2 роки тому +3

    Best video

  • @slowmutant8
    @slowmutant8 2 роки тому +2

    The musical analysis was excellent, but I'm left with one question after watching: What makes Gleam great? Given the title of the video, I expected some discussion of what makes the song great (not just a description of what happens in the song).

    • @lumi-musictheory3476
      @lumi-musictheory3476  2 роки тому +4

      As a theory nerd I find things happening in the song reason enough to consider Gleam a great song. What other aspects of "greatness" should we consider? Why is Gleam popular: Adam Neely plugged Sevish in one of his videos and Gleam was in the channel spotlight at that time. Why do people enjoy listening to Gleam: I think it has to do with the blend of mainstream and niche ideas that make the song approachable yet still very surprising. Going deeper into the ideas that influenced Sevish to make Gleam would make an interesting video, but I'm probably not sufficiently well versed in music trivia for that type of analysis.

    • @slowmutant8
      @slowmutant8 2 роки тому

      @@lumi-musictheory3476 Gotcha. Again, your analysis was excellent. I started listening to Gleam a few weeks ago and I was curious what makes it so enjoyable. I don't usually listen to this style of music at all.

    • @lumi-musictheory3476
      @lumi-musictheory3476  2 роки тому +1

      @@slowmutant8 I've listened plenty of this type of music in 12-tone equal temperament so for me the enjoyment comes from familiarity with the style in combination with the novelty of the tuning. Although 22-tone equal temperament is starting to become familiar as well these days...

    • @slowmutant8
      @slowmutant8 2 роки тому

      @@lumi-musictheory3476 Interesting. It's funny how one can get used to the different sounds. It's funny, I've been listening to a lot of microtonal music lately and I've actually found myself paying more attention to how out-of-tune "normal" 12tet music can be. Anyway, I almost never listen to anything with digital/electronic beats. That's why I was surprised by how hooked I was on Gleam. I listened to it probably 20 times in one week :)

  • @GizzyDillespee
    @GizzyDillespee 2 роки тому +3

    I have to turn the volume way down because of the extremely processed vocal sound. Whe. The voice is low enough to be bearable, I can barely hear the details of the music. Please consider re-uploading this with a much different mix. I would love to watch this vid, but I just can't in this state.

    • @HEHEHEIAMASUPAHSTARSAGA
      @HEHEHEIAMASUPAHSTARSAGA 2 роки тому +2

      I think the video was mixed very well.

    • @microtonalmilio5233
      @microtonalmilio5233 2 роки тому +5

      There might be a problem with your speakers/headphones. Sounds great through iPhone 11, monitors, headphones etc.

    • @lumi-musictheory3476
      @lumi-musictheory3476  2 роки тому +2

      I did do some vocal processing that I wasn't fully confident with. I'll do more research into mixing for the next video. Thank you for the feedback!

    • @thereiffodyssey2000
      @thereiffodyssey2000 2 роки тому +2

      Having a background in audio engineering myself, I’m watching this video on my phone and it sounds fine. Adam, could it possibly be an issue with your monitoring system?

  • @thelambdafunction
    @thelambdafunction 7 місяців тому

    Sad that the percussions have been left out

  • @gavind3012
    @gavind3012 2 роки тому +2

    Is there any place where I can get the score?

  • @qondonyon
    @qondonyon Рік тому +1

    what

  • @Pakanahymni
    @Pakanahymni Рік тому

    Kommentti algoritmin takia. Oon ettiny mikrohommia nyt monta viikkoa ja tänään ekaa kertaa törmäsin sun kanavaan.

  • @Whatismusic123
    @Whatismusic123 2 роки тому +3

    Ok but this assumes that "Gleam is great" when it clearly isn't.

    • @rysea9855
      @rysea9855 2 роки тому +8

      It is

    • @egilsandnes9637
      @egilsandnes9637 Рік тому +4

      We are a big bunch of people that begs to differ. Gleam is amazing! I believe equal temperament microtonal music is still in it's early development, and has a huge potensial. It's not easy though.

    • @Whatismusic123
      @Whatismusic123 Рік тому +1

      @@egilsandnes9637 no, literally everyone in the microtonal music scene is terribly educated through a cult, and has a complete lack of understanding of how microtonality is different from 12 TET
      You aren't going to find anything microtonal that's even remotely competent in the next 50 or so years, maybe longer. Just like there hasn't been even a single remotely competent piece of classical music composed in the past 80 or so years.

    • @egilsandnes9637
      @egilsandnes9637 Рік тому +1

      @@Whatismusic123 Why not just admit that you are old and grumpy? I know I'm old and grumpy, and most of the pop music from the last 10 years is not my cup of tea now matter how hard I try. That doesn't mean it's bad. There are plenty of musicians and composers doing all kinds of genres, even baroque music. Claiming that nobody has made any "remotely competent" "classical music" in the last 80 years is rediculous. Define classical music. Also, realize that music experiences are subjective. I love baroque music, be it mirror fugues, symphonies and other styles. I love jazz. I love metal. I love songs by singer songwriters of different kinds. I love all the kinds of techniques you probably find "superb" in classical music. They work. But you are wrong in thinking they are not used today, and you are wrong in thinking they are the scale upon wich you can measure the quality of music for the rest of us.

    • @Whatismusic123
      @Whatismusic123 Рік тому

      @@egilsandnes9637 yeah, and you love sh*t. There are plenty other poo eaters around. Doesn't make poo a great form of nutrition.

  • @choimdachoim9491
    @choimdachoim9491 Рік тому

    When music becomes excessively cerebral, it becomes boring. I don't see any emotion in this piece.

    • @ragdollinballin
      @ragdollinballin Рік тому

      i see a different beauty in technical and "cerebral" music. i can hear the pure love of this music the artist has just radiating off of it! i feel a lot of emotion in this piece, and its alright that you dont, because we are different people

    • @hipsnowsis7374
      @hipsnowsis7374 5 місяців тому +1

      perhaps I'm being pedantic, but what on earth does 'cerebral' even mean in this sense?

    • @choimdachoim9491
      @choimdachoim9491 5 місяців тому +1

      @@hipsnowsis7374 The way I'm using that word is excessive thinking instead of a natural, emotional, nonthinking manner of playing or producing music. I'm going to go and see what the video was about to see if I need to edit this response. Okay, I'm back: 5 1/2 minutes is all I could take of that video this time. I gave it a thumbs up when I originally watched it because the technical side of composing is complicated and this analysis was well done. I approved of that effort. But, I went to college for 5 years as a Music Composer Major and since I left at the age of 27 I have spent the last 49 years deliberately forgetting all that I was taught. I found the best music comes from me when I'm in the mood and just play, record and edit. I only care about the sounds, the rhythms, the images and feeling that the music evokes. I don't want to be a knowledgeable composer just as I don't want to be an accomplished instrumentalist. I just want to play and listen. Too much thinking changes all that. Great music comes from knowledgeable composers. Classical music is full of great calculated efforts. I approve of planned or thought-out music but some of it gets too empty somehow...more skill and knowledge than music somehow. That's all. Not important. No disrespect meant toward anyone or any effort. We all like what we like.

    • @hipsnowsis7374
      @hipsnowsis7374 5 місяців тому +1

      @@choimdachoim9491 I think you're creating a dichotomy that doesnt exist. I'm just coming to the end of a degree in which I'm majoring in music. Knowledge of systems is certainly necessary to achieve certain effects, and the complexity of those techniques and effects varies with style, but at the end of the day the pursuit of understanding complex systems is not for the sake of demonstrating complexity (unless you're Jacob Collier I guess). In my opinion, these systems, when well-understood and/or well-utilised, become a constituent part of a varied musical palette. You are right that calculated efforts alone do not hold artistic meaning, but the calculated efforts form part of the whole work, which does have such meaning. The classical tradition is a perfect example of this. Western classical music refined and honed its rules and techniques up until a breaking point around 1900, where the functional limit of those techniques had been reached, and that's what lead to the splintering of postclassical music. Understanding and refining your palette is an important part of composition.

    • @girlgaming1993
      @girlgaming1993 2 місяці тому +2

      Personally, music isnt interesting because the composer made it a certain way.
      To me, music is only interesting if it makes ME feel a certain way. Doesnt really matter to me who made it or why a crazy amount, maybe a tiny bit