=SQRT(357)&"-TET" | Irrational Interval Microtones
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- Опубліковано 21 жов 2024
- Synth pads in √357-TET (~18.894-TET) or √357 Edo. This tuning has ~63.511 Cents per Semitone.
The number 357 alludes to the Winding Staircase from the Fellow Craft Degree.
To explore more about TET tuning and the Freemasons:
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Honestly this is less of music and more exploring how math and sound relate.
And thats beautiful too
Thank you. Most of what I make is inspired by 'wondering what it would sound like'. It's refreshing to hear from those who appreciate.
@@ambientesoterica your truly unlocking math in a beautiful way, appreciate your work
I wanna be real as a person who studies math, physics, music and how they relate: they should not have been separated. Music LITERALLY is how math, physics, and acoustics interplay. What we think of as music is just our favorite math along with words maybe.
@@IRuinEvrything but there is also a lot of psychology in the mix of why we like some things and dislike others.
this would definitely convince a medieval village that the end is nigh
goals ✔
we fubaring historical temperaments w this one!
In fubarated edo 😁
So, at 63.5 cents per step, this is about halfway between 19TET (63.1c) and Carlos’ Beta (63.8c).
Awesome observation
@@74bassman, thanks. For whatever it’s worth, the cumulative ~6.5c error at the octave point is, arguably, not a huge deviation from 19TET. Pianos can have octaves stretched by almost that much.
This is so cool, I love things like this, things that show the true potential of music. This is kind of a new age ambient version of this. Imagine a rock song using this scale, or a pop song or even a classical composition. Imagine the possibilities.
This is so cursed. I salute you, brave soldier.
this is beautiful.
thank you :-)
Cool sound. I may know nothing about designing tuning systems like this, but I enjoyed the fractal-like visuals. I'd love to watch this again on acid.
Don’t do it more than a few times you’ll ruin your nervous system
@@guy14552 How many times have you watched this video on acid?
@@-47- Hello this is his caretaker. Unfortunately Bryan(guy14552) has lost the ability to communicate and is now in a vegetative State, drooling over his Food currently. (i´m lying)
@@-47- apparently enough to ruin his nervous system, damn...
Is beautiful.
I find myself more and more listening to microtonal stuff like and, and I truly want to learn how to do it. Please share some suggestions where to begin ❤
You can use a vst like Vital which lets you tune it in whatever temperament you like. Also it's free. There is a list of vst that let you be microtonal, somewhere.
@@m.dave2141 I actually found a wonderful Norns script that lets me do this!
I don't see why this can be upsetting or anything, it's so soothing
makes me feel like the end is near
@Zenith_Star69 in a relative sense, all is near 🫠
i have experienced a new emotion
strange but beautiful
It all comes down to temperament. No need to reinvent the wheel here. In well temperament, perfectly in-tune intervals complement significantly out-of-tune intervals. In equal temperament, all intervals (save the octave) are slightly out of tune. The former system fosters variety and difference, while the latter preserves consistency and uniformity.
The issue is well temperment creates problems like comma pumps.
Styles like jazz would have never been possible if we didn't work out that 12tet worked well enough, very normal to our modern ewrs vocabulary like 6 9 vhords arent possible in well tempertment
Can anyone else hear the weird oscillations when the lower pitches come into play? They're hitting every, like, 1/5th of a second? Hard for me to time it exactly.
What do you use for the interval of equivalence? Since the octave is removed.
Interesting that octaves aren't gonna be perfect octaves in this system. Not sure if my math is correct, but I got that the 19th tone of this system is 6.7 cents sharp of a perfect octave.
Exactly correct. 🙂 +6.703963 above 1200
It's like a hive full of bees.
I don't like the excel language, but I do like this tuning.
the excel fx title was an intentional attempt to outsmart the Lord of the Algorithm with a 'unique title' lol. Plus I'm a nerd for sheets.
Sheet music, excel sheets, I enjoy them both! 👍
this is actually very interesting
thank you
Imagine explaining the theory of this to a classical geek.
I've walked in many circles wondering how to explain half the concepts I'm using to do these things 😃
@@ambientesoterica There comes a point where you know so much advanced stuff that trying to explain concepts that are based on several concepts that you also have to explain becomes a nightmare.
@@kadamitas "sure I can explain A for you. But to explain A i really should explain B first. But oh no you need to know C to understand B..."
"an octave is a 1:2 pitch ratio, and consists of 1200¢ (logarithmic unit of pitch), going up 1200¢ and going up an octave are equivalent. typically we divide the octave into 12 parts, giving a step size of 100¢, however that's completely arbitrary. we could divide the octave into for example, 10 parts, giving a step size of 120¢, or into 19 parts, giving a step size of ~63.16¢. These systems collectively are called Equal Divisions of the Octave (EDO) systems (e.g. 9EDO = 9 Equal Divisions of the Octave), or -Tone Equal Temperament (TET) systems (e.g. 12TET = 12-Tone Equal Temperament). However, the amount to divide an octave into need not be an integer, or even rational. You could divide the octave into, idk, sqrt(357) pieces, so each step size is 1200¢/sqrt(357)=~65.51¢. that's what this music does."
doesn't seem _that_ difficult.
That's who composes this sort of thing. Microtonal, that is.
If you can't explain it to a six year old, you don't understand it yourself.
-Albert Einstein
You can't always write a chord ugly enough to say what you want to say, so sometimes you have to rely on a giraffe filled with whipped cream.
-Frank Zappa
This should a) have more views than this and b) be longer.
Re a) Thank you
Re: b) If you replay it at 0.25x speed, it becomes 444 seconds long 😎
@@ambientesoterica Haha thanks!
lots of people try and explain that there’s some deeper meaning to microtonal stuff like this but no one can convince me that you didn’t choose sqrt(357) just for shits and giggles
This is incredible 😱 hypnotic intelligent, beautiful it sings to new reaches of the mind. This is not just pretty work, this is important, sacred work.
too kind. Thank you for inspiring me to continue
So each note is sqrt357th root of 2 Hz apart?
Square Root of 357 is an alternative way to denote 18.894 equal divisions of the octave. "Normal" western music divides the octave into 12 equal divisions (the chromatic scale). 18.894 reduces the gap/space between each note.
@@ambientesoterica so is my assumption correct?
For this example, no. That would give a constant Hz interval between semitones (a cool tuning also, but it wouldn't be in equal temperament)
@@ambientesoterica ok thanks
Getting a bit of a BOC vibe.
oooooh thanks for pointing me into another rabbit hole. For cred I'd like to claim I'd already heard of them, but I haven't. . . . till now. 🍎
@@ambientesoterica I like what you're doing, here. Be honest, you're listening to blue oyster cult.
@@reversefulfillment9189 🤠 haha nice one
Music is math
@@rejectionsensitivedysphoria Music is not inherently anything but i see where you're coming from. Really, music is whatever the fuck you want or can make it to be. Most people call microtonal music shit, anyone who knows music theory calls radio shit. My only negative opinion is when people don't care for music, that is what unnerves me.
just great if it wasn't off center
ok at this point you're just screwing around
i don'r get it
what the swear word
a lot of people are snooty about listening to music in any octave other than 12 tet, i don't like that, it makes microtonal music look bad. people aren't more sophisticated because of the music they listen to. just remember that even though bach predominantly wrote in 12 tet doesn't mean we wouldn't be here without him lol