Nio FURIOUS after BYD employee reveals BYD take over of company

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      @MrLhasa1 2 години тому +2

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    @victoralex6569 Годину тому +204

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  • @tienhoang7962
    @tienhoang7962 Хвилина тому

    I love how you broke down the XAI312x project in your video! Can’t wait to see it soar!

  • @HaraldinChina
    @HaraldinChina Годину тому +7

    Driving Nio is an experience, including Nio spaces in shopping malls and Nio lounges at airports. Driving BYD is getting from A to B. I'd rather see Nio get cash from the Middle East. With their superior technology, they'll eventually make it, especially now that they have a new low-cost brand to attack the mass market. BYD is the future VW/Skoda, Nio is the future BMW/Benz.

    • @TheSmallbug
      @TheSmallbug 52 хвилини тому

      You forget Yangwang and Denza.

  • @JorgeLausell
    @JorgeLausell 5 годин тому +14

    And they design amazing cars!

  • @HaraldinChina
    @HaraldinChina Годину тому +6

    Nio has the only battery swap network that works

  • @HaraldinChina
    @HaraldinChina Годину тому +4

    Onvo makes sense, to use the premium name Nio building a lower-cost model.

  • @undisclosedthai
    @undisclosedthai Годину тому +2

    The Electric Viking: Nio FURIOUS
    Me: Is Keanu Reeves in Fast X: Part 2 ?

  • @ChimaChindaDev
    @ChimaChindaDev 4 години тому +14

    I think most companies would love to own NIO. They have great premium cars, really smart technology with battery swap that works excellently well and their new sub brand Onvo is looking good.
    Firefly is also on the way and it is expected to sell even more than Onvo.
    It will be a win-win for both BYD and NIO. BYD is frugal with spending and they know how to achieve profitability so they could more quickly turn around the financial fortune of NIO.
    BYD will utilize NIO's technology and make it more efficient.
    Either way, NIO isn't going away anytime soon in my opinion. They will be profitable and their share price will soar.

    • @protagonist9716
      @protagonist9716 3 години тому

      Viking wants to criticize everybody except for the world richest man who has started sleeping with Trump and getting EV incentives off American market

    • @HaraldinChina
      @HaraldinChina Годину тому

      I agree on the awesomeness of Nio, not sure I'd like to see them owned by BYD. It's like Porsche owned by VW. It can work, but it doesn't really.

  • @eymaslacker
    @eymaslacker 4 години тому +14

    BYD are most likely to be interested in Nio's battery swap stations. For safety and infrastructure issues, fast charging won't reach the low times that vehicle owners want. Battery swap however, is dependent on
    i) standards (this is a critical requirement)
    ii) mechanical process speed
    iii) battery weight
    BYD has strong enough presence that they could create a de-facto standard, fulfilling i).
    BYD proved their industrial engineering ability with their vehicle lines so they could do ii) pretty well
    BYD's blade battery would work well with iii) as you could modularize the battery so the battery weight is distributed among multiple battery blades or modules

    • @criztaliz3413
      @criztaliz3413 4 години тому +1

      Maybe this system allow 4 extra money, selling energy from renewable can make more money and like big gas station you can add restaurant, supermarket etc.

    • @CiaranMcHale
      @CiaranMcHale 2 години тому

      The Limiting Factor channel has an insightful video (ua-cam.com/video/rxtS7mjrTvo/v-deo.html) entitled "Nio Battery Pack Swapping // Everything You Need to Know" that discusses some significant challenges to be overcome for a battery swapping to be scaled up and profitable. In my (non-expert) opinion, the three positives you list in your comment are outweighed by the negatives in the video I mentioned.

    • @eymaslacker
      @eymaslacker Годину тому

      @@CiaranMcHale Clicked through the video but i don't think those issues are that critical.
      One point is that without standards, there is 0% chance that economies of scale can be utilized.
      With ii) and this economies of scale (hence critical), costs will be reduced and that includes station costs. Watch videos on how BYD manages to manufacture cars and sell at their prices and yet make a profit, ie process engineering and economies of scale through integration
      The single point of failure is fine if you have economies of scale because you build more slots for the same cost. For example, one of them breaks down? Put them in pairs as a single building. The other car manufacturers will also want part ownership (and thus share costs) or build their own (still based on the same standard) rather than have BYD control the entire chain
      The only point that will affect the battery swapping is the rent vs buy issue but that has nothing to do with the technology or process. It is instead a legal issue and affects the final pricing of the service as legal battery ownership means the battery swapping will be more complex as you will need the same model of battery and requires the owner's nod and approval.
      This can be solved by putting in a manual swap station that is much less in number so you push consumers to allow for battery changes

  • @claesnordberg9418
    @claesnordberg9418 Годину тому +2

    Last figure i heard was 94 different ev makers in china. It was the same situation in the US in the beginning. All names the big 3 owns (dodge, lincoln etc) was indipendant brands in the beginning.

  • @HåkonMolden
    @HåkonMolden 3 години тому +8

    It is so clear how little this guy know about Nio's Nio Power. In the future Nio will be profitable only in grid balancing.
    Do research please before you act like you know the company well 😂

  • @mondaycinema
    @mondaycinema 3 години тому +10

    Nio's are awsome EVs!!

    • @HaraldinChina
      @HaraldinChina Годину тому +1

      best in the market, full stop.

  • @MrLhasa1
    @MrLhasa1 4 години тому +9

    TeslaViking

  • @Thierry-in-Londinium
    @Thierry-in-Londinium 2 години тому +3

    NIO will also perhaps launch an actual corporate takeover?! Of Nissan & Toyota..... by 2030!

  • @Ullrich88
    @Ullrich88 4 години тому +19

    I remember you knocking Xpeng together with Nio. Now you own an Xpeng their your new Fan Boy. Used to be Tesla right?

  • @undisclosedthai
    @undisclosedthai Годину тому +1

    I don't like the BYD-Chrysler rumors, but I think BYD need western famous car brand(s) rather than Nio which is another Chinese car company and another Chinese car brand.

  • @GaryKennedy-g7p
    @GaryKennedy-g7p 5 годин тому +4

    Nio has joined up with the city of Hefei and JAC .... to move the manufacturing there
    the idea being to let someone else do the manufacturing for them
    freeing them up to specialise in car design etc
    basically the city of Hefei is backing Nio now .... BYD story sounds total bollocks
    yep Hefei city bailed out Nio and the cost was .... move to Hefei

  • @richardwallinger1683
    @richardwallinger1683 2 години тому +1

    I want an xpeng MONA M03 in Shiny blue black interior l/h drive for Portugal small kwh battery pack . seems like this affordable slippy can is not available in Portugal . such a shame .

  • @mitchellchristianson8120
    @mitchellchristianson8120 5 годин тому +4

    No they just hired 200,000 people they can build 500,000 cars a month already. They got a different plan

  • @sneakymove
    @sneakymove 3 години тому +2

    But NIO is more tasteful in design sense. They r on different level, they r just no good in business like BYD

  • @andrinebrown-cover8615
    @andrinebrown-cover8615 3 години тому +1

    What would happen to Nio stock? Would they be merged with Nio.

  • @rbhebron
    @rbhebron 4 години тому +2

    NIO buys their batteries from BYD & CATL... including on their 2300 battery swapping stations all around China... However, they are still loosing money every quarter.. There is no compelling reason for BYD to buy or just JV with NIO.. NIO does not provide any benefit to BYD even consider any acquisition.. It's to BYD's advantage to allow NIO to go bankrupt.. Less competitor

  • @LaBambaCL
    @LaBambaCL 5 годин тому +2

    by the numbers given here, nio seems poorly managed and doomed, it's investors may take up any half reasonable offer.
    many nio cars do seem nice, and they have the best battery swap, which i think is good tech. the way things are happening, byd may worry someone else may want to buy nio. almost every other car company would love to have nio.

  • @lordofsevenrealms
    @lordofsevenrealms 6 хвилин тому

    China car company news: Sam 👻
    Samsung battery news: Sam 😮‍💨😴

  • @huyphungha8021
    @huyphungha8021 Годину тому

    Once Elon Musk's XAI312x passes $1, it may NEVER see that low again

  • @stevennelson7518
    @stevennelson7518 2 години тому +2

    It would only make sense to aquire technology from NIO. NIO has touted everything but a plan for profitability for three years. Gonna shoulda woulda coulda is not a plan. Stock is down from the high of $65 and now is around $5 a share.

  • @johnfrancis4401
    @johnfrancis4401 3 години тому +2

    Why should BYD buy Nio when like an over ripe apple it’s about to fall off the tree? After which BYD can pick up the parts it likes during the fire sale?

  • @benplumlee751
    @benplumlee751 Годину тому

    The premium market on any product has a lower profit threshold. People that buy a NIO do so for the privilege of using NIO houses, lifestyle products, and status! NIO’s plan for profits is it’s lower tier brands that are just starting, ONVO and Firefly. Along with their energy and technology products. People with money pay extra for exclusivity! NIO battery swap vehicles have resell value, not many EV’s have resell value. You need a better understanding of this exclusive market.

  • @CrzyD-cv8xz
    @CrzyD-cv8xz 5 годин тому +14

    Nio will always have funding and spend a lot cuz the CCP backs them. They also have backing from some middle Eastern country UAE I think. The swap stations function as grid backup to the local communities so they're in the public utilities business and get clean energy subsides from that and they also do microchips and software for self driving so they get govt subsidies for that arm of the business as well since China needs to grow the chip industry. They have a wide moat.

  • @franciscocerutimahn
    @franciscocerutimahn Годину тому +1

    China State Grid Corporation has 1.4 million employees. Fact checking you in real time Sam !😂

  • @pctong5387
    @pctong5387 4 години тому +1

    3:45 Nio talks like Toyota 😂

  • @stizzygrayson5541
    @stizzygrayson5541 5 годин тому +1

    Neo will be cactus without this.

    • @gildasarnaud-gallin596
      @gildasarnaud-gallin596 4 години тому +1

      @@stizzygrayson5541 He speaks about Nio. No one speaks about Neo here.

  • @PlM-u1i
    @PlM-u1i Годину тому +1

    I think you purchase Nio shares in the past and loss big time

  • @loginoff2007
    @loginoff2007 4 години тому +9

    😂 man, why should NIO sell their assets and technology patents to BYD? Why are you so sure that they are in trouble? You probably missed their earning call and haven't checked the business outlook and comments about forecasted deliveries for 2025. They have a solid plan to become a profitable company by 2026. Please do your homework first, listen to what professor Parkev and other trusted analysts talk about the company now.

    • @FrankSouza-ss7cz
      @FrankSouza-ss7cz 3 години тому

      Ha ha, you believe NIO management? biggest liars!

    • @tomfahey2823
      @tomfahey2823 3 години тому +1

      I'd love for you to be right (I'm invested in both companies), but Nio's current financials are not good at all.
      They've been losing more and more money over the last few years, in spite of their increasing revenue. They've also only managed to get their gross profit margin up to approximately 10%, which is half of what BYD earn.
      If they were in Tesla's position 10 years ago and had a lot of government support (i.e subsidies, incentives etc.) I could see them potentially pulling things off, but in today's market, with the rest of the Chinese competition - it's a very tall order.

    • @protagonist9716
      @protagonist9716 3 години тому

      ​​@@tomfahey2823
      It's not a tall order at all. The Chinese government in Hefei is supporting Nio. Chery Changan JAC have joined in the Swap network. Geely too. This is a long game Nio is playing. The state and the state owned companies are supporting Nio.

  • @linhkhanh2046
    @linhkhanh2046 Годину тому

    There is no project like XAI312x...it is literally owned by Elon Musk

  • @Lost_Johnny
    @Lost_Johnny Годину тому

    Nio make good cars but that are expensive compared to other brands. Renting a battery is nice idea but is it practical? Their cars are not looking very up-to-date any more either.

  • @rune54321
    @rune54321 Годину тому

    something is deeply wrong with nio company and stock

  • @barr96
    @barr96 3 години тому +6

    HAHAHAHAHA this dude only posts noise about NIO. this is old news, both companies denied the rumours and NIO is taking legal action. PS get a new shirt

    • @protagonist9716
      @protagonist9716 2 години тому +4

      He kisses Elons rear and cannot sleep without criticism of rival companies with class leading technology

    • @GallAnonim-jx2cz
      @GallAnonim-jx2cz Годину тому

      Yeah I also can't stand his lies. He would sell own wife for UA-cam views. And he never mentions that really best selling cars in China are PHEVs like Li auto or Aito. Basically EVs and EREVs are half half of nev market. I bet he is paid by China

    • @GallAnonim-jx2cz
      @GallAnonim-jx2cz Годину тому

      ​@@protagonist9716actually Tesla sells best in China because people trust it will exist 5 years later. Cannot say the same about most of Chinese brands;)

  • @Sam_BS_Electric
    @Sam_BS_Electric 2 години тому

    Nio offers noting

  • @PlM-u1i
    @PlM-u1i Годину тому

    I hear xpeng autonomous driving sucks

  • @rogerfroud300
    @rogerfroud300 5 годин тому +14

    BYD are huge, but they're drowning in debt. Why would they want to take over NEO? What do they offer that BYD doesn't already have? BYD have enough problems of their own. Sure, they're making a profit at the moment, that's not on EVs, that's overall. It's by no means certain that BYD will survive, it's an incredibly difficult market to be in.

    • @tookay5
      @tookay5 5 годин тому +2

      I saw that vlog on this topic regading their huge losses, and it stated they only make a profit of $4 per car sold. BYD have more debt than evergrande supposedly which is not a good sign. I am surprised Viking has nothing to say about that. Maybe the report was incorrect, so some additional input would be nice to see on this.

    • @OmPom-h9o
      @OmPom-h9o 5 годин тому +14

      Byd are drowning in debt🤣🤣.
      Your name needs just one change Rogerfraud

    • @ricosun
      @ricosun 5 годин тому +12

      BYD makes more revenue than Tesla, and they make a profit on their EVs as well. Because 40% of cost of an EVs is the battery, unlike Tesla or any other car manufactorurs who have to source batteries from CATL or BYD and Panasonic to build their battery pack, BYD make the whole thing, plus all the vertical integration they have... they have at least 20% cost advantage over anyone. The only reason it appears BYD is not making money or very little money on their EVs is because they have reinvested 90% of their revenue back into R&D and capacity building. in 2023 Tesla's R&D cost was 4.5 B USD, BYD was 8.5 B USD. So when you look at profit per car it appears very little. But you really have look at balance sheet before they reinvest the revenue.

    • @tomfahey2823
      @tomfahey2823 4 години тому +11

      How is BYD "drowning in debt"?.
      Their assets (CN¥ 679.55B) exceed their liabilities (CN¥ 529.09B) by over CN¥ 150B. They've been profitable since 2002, their revenues are skyrocketing, their gross margins are 20.21% and their FCF was CN¥ 47.73B last year.
      What about that picture says "drowning in debt" to you?
      And talk about BYD surviving...have you seen NIO's financials? As an investor in both, I can tell you it's not a pretty picture at all...

    • @cameronking3957
      @cameronking3957 4 години тому

      Ok, relax everyone, including you! Just rumors! God know how much the Asians like them and is part of their culture and way of life!

  • @EV-FUN
    @EV-FUN 5 годин тому +2

    Whats the future of battery swap when soon it will be possible to charge a car in 10 min.? I think it still make sense when those batteries always are charged when the energy is cheap.

    • @jlamm2223443
      @jlamm2223443 5 годин тому +8

      I can see it as a way to protect resale, get newest tech as it improves, allow one to least a modest battery and then swap out for a larger one for a long trip.

    • @abdelaziziakouche1443
      @abdelaziziakouche1443 5 годин тому +7

      then nio car can also charge in 10 min i think ppl think that nio can just swap and not fast charge the car can do both.

    • @tookay5
      @tookay5 5 годин тому +3

      @@abdelaziziakouche1443 exactly.

    • @jeffpitoniak
      @jeffpitoniak 5 годин тому

      Getting out of your vehicle to Charge in 10 minutes in hot/cold/rain/snow vs 3 minute battery swap just by using an app. Add a free car wash at the same time and Americans will flock to it plus byd has bad name recognition as big, bad, china. I think nio has flown under the radar here and the rumor today is that trump wants chinese cars in America as long as they build factories here and hire Americans

    • @andrewsuryali8540
      @andrewsuryali8540 4 години тому +1

      The future of battery swap lies outside the personal car market. It actually has a bright future in industries like mining, remote area construction (which China has plenty of), long-range trucking, and even the military. The problem with Nio is that they aren't even exploring these obvious applications.

  • @mukamuka0
    @mukamuka0 4 години тому +3

    Nio is going into bankruptcy. Having BYD acquiring them is the best case scenario.

    • @tomfahey2823
      @tomfahey2823 3 години тому +3

      I'm inclined to agree.
      Often, those who burn the brightest, go out the quickest.

    • @protagonist9716
      @protagonist9716 3 години тому

      Chinese government is supporting Nio so maybe think again.

    • @mukamuka0
      @mukamuka0 Годину тому

      @@tomfahey2823 Yes, Nio tried their best but I think they need BYD manufacturing expertise to help turning a profit and stay afloat

  • @picandvideo
    @picandvideo 5 годин тому +4

    Battery swap is dinosaur. Fast charging making that obsolete within 5 years.

    • @gildasarnaud-gallin596
      @gildasarnaud-gallin596 5 годин тому +6

      Fast charge in china . During Peak hours. Ahhhh u r funny 🤣😂😂

    • @tookay5
      @tookay5 5 годин тому +5

      so why have multiple car companies in china signed on to the swap alliance, some are going to be doing swap tech cars as early as next year. Fast charging is great yes, but it degrades the battery also. Not a problem to throw away a cheap car once the battery is dead, but for more expensive car that's not going to go down well. bear in mind that China have just included battery health in the annual checkup to get your inspection sticker.

    • @ChimaChindaDev
      @ChimaChindaDev 4 години тому +6

      I don't think we will ever be able to charge our cars from empty to full in 3 minutes.
      Like everyone else, NIO also has fast charging but only them have battery swap technology.

    • @alexishart1989
      @alexishart1989 4 години тому

      Nonsense. Fast charging made battery swapping obsolete some time ago. Also, I checked and it turns out that battery swapping was a stupid idea all along.

    • @andrewsuryali8540
      @andrewsuryali8540 4 години тому +1

      Battery swap isn't a dinosaur. It's actually the way to go OUTSIDE THE PERSONAL CAR MARKET. The problem with Nio is that they are offering a solution that's better-tailored for things like heavy industry (mining and construction) and the military, to the general public where it has limited utility. The PLA has been knocking on William Li's door for years asking him to develop something like an electric Dongfeng Mengshi with his tech, but he has remained adamant on not doing so.

  • @tedchandran
    @tedchandran 4 години тому

    Jai Hind. Good products but no profit. Better to consolidate

    • @imreszikora8196
      @imreszikora8196 Годину тому +1

      Much better than Tesla, it had bad products when it wasn't profitable. The first Tesla roadster is a piece of shit comparing to the current, modern cars.

  • @Seventh7Art
    @Seventh7Art 3 години тому

    Nio is not a profitable company. Nio may not survive by 2030... BYD should take over Nio and turn it into a profitable company...

  • @namminh5469
    @namminh5469 Годину тому

    Bought XAI312x after watching your video, super excited!

  • @uyenmai8129
    @uyenmai8129 Годину тому

    Loving SOL and XAI312x! Following your advice has made me $30K in profits. Super excited for the future of these projects!

  • @PlM-u1i
    @PlM-u1i Годину тому

    I hear xpeng autonomous driving sucks