Thanks for the Video Jeremy! I appreciate the shout out! I have a few different versions of this strategy ! As i say on my channel! Any strategy will lose on any given day ! Enjoyed watching brother!
I played this on a princess ship last December at the $10 , $40 DC. Ladder up 5 and 20. Highest I got up to was I think $125 on DC. I didn’t get rated well as only got a certificate for $150 free play, but I did end the cruise up $1000 on a 1700 buy in.
@@ColorUp Princess is very secretive about their program anyway. Getting on the Emerald Princess on the 20th for a ten day. I will probably try the lite into Darkness strategy.
I’ve been playing this but from the Don’t pass at the casino and leave with a lot more money than what I can with! Waylon’s Way Craps has great strategies!
that's because the DC bet will lose when it's in the DC box to a 7 or 11, then it will lose again after it's moved to a box number and that number gets rolled for a second time.
Wow, this is a lot of fun! I've never played the don't or come bets. I tried it out tonight with a $1000 bank roll. $25 dollar come bets and pass line bet, $10 odds on each come bet, then $200 on the don't come. I used your "See a horn, bet a horn." I made a $575 profit! Someone on your channel posted the idea: $200 DC and odds on each come bet.
I watched this video and then practiced it online for a while to get the hang of it. So today I tried it out and it was a lot of fun. I didn't win a lot but I did leave up. I really like this system it kinda protects you from big loss and makes the game so much more enjoyable. I had a great time. I wish I found this channel sooner. THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO.
I rewatched this after that and I think I was playing it wrong. WOW but it still worked out somehow I had a great time and left up. So as far as mistakes go I got lucky. Thanks again for your videos.
haha threw that "And ladies" in there at the end. Love it! We are a growing crowd at the tables for sure right now. Thanks for reviewing this system. I may try out next weekend.
One of the very best Systems I've seen Period!! Like anything, you have to decide when to quit Playing and take your Money! I use it when I play Bubble Craps!
The major problem I see if that if the DC's end up as points of 6 and 8 and get sniped down quickly....On a hot table, you would get wiped out quickly and laddering wouldn't stop the bleeding......
I like that this is a low risk system of playing craps. In fact you can play all day with this system even with a relatively small bankroll. I need a little more risk when I play craps especially if I get a roll in which numbers repeat a lot. I would want to play those come bets with some backing odds especially if the casino offers 10x or better. However, I’d give this a go if my bankroll was on the lower end & I’d have a grand old time playing.
My wish list for a video would be a table with 5 or 6 different players playing specific featured strategies at the same time with running commentary and scoreboard.
Awesome idea. The hours involved to make this happen. And then editing. My dear Jeremy, get much help making this happen. And do not lose sleep. I will work on it another hour and turn it into sleepless nights. That makes grouchy Jeremy appear. No video is worth that. It will get done when it gets done. You know many hundreds of hours will be required.
While you could, making it thru the dont come is hardest part (avoiding the 7) once it’s on 6/8 the dont is now favored to win. If you don’t like that small edge, instead of pulling Don’t come down. Just make an equal size place bet on that number, puts you in a can’t lose position…then follow up with another don’t come bet if you’d like.
Ive been enjoying your videos alot and love the content! I just wanted to point out that the way you roll(with the dice in your palm) is not allowed anywhere that ive been. Not trying to be nitpicky or anything just wanted to suggest a different technique to keep it as real as you can! Thanks again for the content!
I roll the same way in every casino I’ve been all across country for many years. I’ve never had an issue, only rule is use one hand. So I’ve never heard of “can’t have dice in palm”
Ive recently been checking out the Arnold strategy and its different variances. One comment I saw on a video was putting up even odds on your established come bets if your DC gets hit and then just let it roll out, 1 DC per shooter. Wanted to hear your thoughts on this?
Hey Jeremy, here's a crazy idea for you... How about playing the Arnold system on a crapless craps table? Pt gets established as usual. then lay the 2 or 12, then continuous come bets as usual. Laying the 2 or 12 is better odds than getting a Don't Come bet established, only 1 way to make each right? Your thoughts?
I would play it from the Dont Pass and add odds to the don't pass when you're playing the DC. Take the odds down after the DC bet travels behind a number. You could hedge the 11, but it rarely shows up.
Ok I've played this but I play the Arnold hedge. So same thing but once the "don't pass" is placed on, you buy inside to hedge a 7 craps. So you'd have 15 pass, 60 don't pass and $45 you buy inside. And then you can cancel that out with a come and I always did takeoff wins. So say you hit the 8, you clear the 8 from the buy and put the come bet on it. And you keep going. Making sure you always have an Even hedge. And I would double the come everytime I take a number buy off, or the come goes to the 4 or 10. I call it the Arnold hedge. You can play almost forever
@@Dee2thekae031 IT EATS UP ALOT OF YOU WINS. I'VE BEEN USING THIS SYSTEM FOR A IT NOW AND KNOW IT PRETTY WELL. I'M 25 OUT OF 29 SESSIONS WINNER FOR $25K- I LEARNED TO HEDGE IF I'M USING WINS FROM A 7 OR 11 ON THE COME OUT. ALSO I STOPPED DOING MULTIPLE DC BETS WITHIN THE SAME SHOOTER
@@jimklemens5018 I mean, on average you're not gonna have all numbers covered. Technically, if you want to do just a x1 odds, you could go from x4 to x8, it would definitely take a bankroll
I got my certificate printed at host desk in ship. I put my deposit down in the Roy car app, but they have a “next cruise” sales area on the ships you can get help too.
@@ColorUp there's a couple different ways it stops working. it only gets a few rolls in and then stops putting up the continuous come bet. I also noticed it stopped working properly if the DC gets picked off or if the pass line gets hit. For example, just ran it and point was 8, DC went to 5, the come line hit 11 and gets taken down (not still there to go to another point). There are several combos like that which makes it stop working.
@2ambiguous From dicer: Ok... so it turns out I pushed out a bug that affected the Arnold. It should be cleared up now though. No changes need to be made to your strategy. It should just work once they refresh their browser. Sorry about that!
I believe the best way to approach craps with strategies is having multiple ones. I would play this if the point was 6/8. If point was 4/10, I'd probably stay away from this and if theres a hot shooter. Use multiple strategies at their strengths instead of staying on one and hoping ur bankroll can make it till a hot run comes your way.
Bump up the don't pass to $150 and go table minimum on come bets then place odds after come bets move to total come+odds to be $25-30. On $5 table, go odds of 3x4x5x
I like playing these don't strategies but usually take the odds too (or lay). As you know, It's the only bet the Casino pays you true odds. I see you usually don't. Can you discuss why not? I apologize if you have previously explained this. Thanks
No odds. You’re waiting for the 7. This way, when 7 comes your current come bet pays for one of the contract bets on the board. If you play odds, it throws the math out of whack.
I tried this system out live and didn’t have much luck with it. Was doing at a $5 and $20 level If I also bet on the field and hedged my don’t come while waiting for it to get moved to a number. It worked a little better I’m gonna have to play with this a bit more to see if it works for me or not. But so far, not good.
Why not just place a few numbers after the pass and DC bet? That way you get the odds and get on the numbers you want? Is it just to make it fun or what?
My only fear is hitting a point-7-out and lose 75$. Maybe a lay bet for one roll? Or maybe a lay bet instead of the don’t come. It’ll pay less of course but the immediate safety means more to me
@@stephenmcdermott1468 10 come bets with 10 odds...So your original DC bet would be $80....so instead of getting even money when your come repeats, you get alittle extra....if you lose, the DC will hedge you
Not a bad system, but I personally wouldn't use it because I PREFER the Iron Cross with collecting FIRST then pressing for every OTHER hit of the Iron Cross numbers like I replied back to you from one of your Iron Cross sessions that you covered, but shouldn't you be placing a $90 Don't Come bet to cover ALL of those other bets - the Pass Line plus ALL those Come bets, so that if the seven shows, it will be able to potentially COVER all of those losses so you break even???
I agree. Once the point is established, play the Come bet on every roll, even when you get 4x on the DC. Thats the next variation that I'm gonna try. Thanks Jeremy
You need to add odds on the come bets....you rolled 3 easy sixes....had you laid max odds on the first six and parlayed you would have made a ton of money.
I've been waiting for you to try this system. They way i understand how Waylon does the ladder is only if he's 7 out. He also doesn't the Arnold using the DP and the DC which I prefer Could you make a video using system please?
@@ColorUp he only ladders up when the DC gets hit....when a DC gets hit for 60, he'll throw 120 in the DC box, and then start placing $30 come bets....If another DC gets knocked down, he would go 180 and place $45 come bets....Remember his DC has to protect the come bets 4x....
“Funny how a craps table can change a person’s character,” thought Trish, as she watched the man next to her prepare to shoot the dice. He stood back, straightened his body, and took a deep breath. Then he arranged the dice so 6 and 5 showed on the top. He looked to the sides to make sure the right numbers showed there as well. He stepped back from the table a second time, closed his eyes, and took another deep breath. He then stepped up to the table, picked up the dice with his left hand, raised it so his arm was parallel with the table, held it there like a delicate pose in a classical dance routine, and with a gentle twisting of the wrist released them into the air in a gentle arc. “10, Easy 10,” shouted the dealer. The quiet that had reigned at the table exploded into excited talk as people rearranged their bets. Hard 10 bets had to be replenished, and some of the betters pressed their place bets. “Come on, shooter, throw us a Hard 4!” shouted a man to the left of the stickman. The point was 8. Again, Trish marveled at the transformation of the man. When he was not shooting, the man could have been a gung-ho major in the army or a prize fighter. He had a solid, tough-looking frame, but once he got the dice in his hand, the he-man suffered an attenuation, as poetry of his movement softened his demeanor. The shooter had raised his hand, but he did not compete the motion. There was too much noise at the table. He set the dice down. It was his seventeenth roll. -- from "A Ballet of the Dice"
I have published the fact on my page that this man Waylon has shown well over 900 videos and not one of them has ever failed. This to me is a good indication that he is only posting winners. I have stated that I think by doing so he gives people false optimism and does a disservice to the craps community everywhere. He has called some the best ever and others unbeatable. Please know this does not reflect on Color Up as this is just my opinion.
@@tireiron7500 My take is, he is a false profit. He plays his videos with huge bankrolls. He absolutely never ever loses after 900+ videos. You draw your own conclusion. My impression, like many others in the craps community, that he is only posting winners. He labels too many of them as unbeatable or the greatest ever. It is my considered opinion that by doing this he is doing a disservice to the craps community. Any system that requires you ladder up like almost all of his do is bound to lose. That is just a mathematical certainty.
@@eddieonthemoney2520 I think Waylon has a passion for craps and loves sharing different strategies he tests and reads about. Any craps or gambling strategy can win or lose. The value I see in channels like Waylon's, Color-Up, JackAce, Procraps or other's is the exposure to different gambling bets and hedge strategies based on bankroll and player type, aggressive, conservative or advantage. While watching someone lose at craps is probably boring, the strategy demonstrated is what I test based on my bankroll, gambling goal and general conservative player type. While I would agree with you only watching winning videos can be seen as a disservice; its also an education and that's my takeaway from time I spend watching these channels. I look for what's going to work for me and my conservative play style, can I win some, hedge my losses and have a good time knowing I'm not risking enough to worry about.
@@tireiron7500 is a hit or miss. I played it a few times. I have won money, but at the same time I have lost a lot of money. Like all strategies, it all depends on the big fat red number. If you rolled a PSO, you lose your pass line bet and you lose you DC bet. That will be costly after just two PSO's
@@eddieonthemoney2520 When you stated that he " never loses " what exactly do you MEAN by that??? Did he post ACTUAL LIVE craps table action of himself showing his SBR - Starting Bankroll - and how much he ended up with and IF it was profitable EVERY time, with either himself shooting ALONE at the table or also with others shooting and himself betting along with them with one of HIS strategies??? PLEASE explain.
Ha, I can’t verify but I’ve heard this before. I choose to show winners and losers. And wouldn’t ya know it…there are more losers than winning rolls. 🤷♂️
I have published the fact on my page that this man has shown well over 700 videos and not one of them has ever failed. This man being Waylon. I have stated that I think by doing so he gives people false optimism and does a disservice to craps players everywhere. Please know this does not reflect on color up. This is just my opinion.
Love it but also hate it! Played this on a carnival cruise.... As soon as I bet the Don't come.... 7... 4 times in a row... THEN.... got to bet the dont come.... dont come on the 10.... immediately get a 10
so at any given point, you are risking 5 units to win 1 unit; $75 in play to win $15 and after 5 come bets you risk 180 to win 60 it's a grind strategy you'll never ladder up with this.
I just bet all the numbers when a point is established and 7 out quickly, like 6/7 people in a row, 7 out in 3 rolls or less cuz why wouldn’t that happen. Let me play the don’t come next time and watch the pass line keep winning all of a sudden
This is just "The Best Craps Strategy" the only thing is you put max odds on the Pass Line and you put odds on your Come Bets, that's tje only difference
I played real Craps for the first time in my life (lost a lot of money LOL) and the dice did actually roll off the table a LOT. So I forgive you for your missing walls LOL.
@@ColorUp It cycles just like any other system. That is when Waylon presses 1 unit each level to get the losses back. If you keep the bets the same you will not do as well.
A more simple version is betting 5 units on DC and playing iron cross.. As long as no repeater 7s on the come out your sitting pretty with steady profit so long as the point doesnt hit before 7
Tried this strategy two more times after having some success the first time on bubble craps. Got DESTROYED. Kept getting my d.c. knocked off repeatedly. Laddering up ( Martingale) would have made it worse. Then, of course,I had the issue with 7/11 rolling while trying to get the d.c. placed. Back to Double Tap!
Avoid the pso , lay the 4 or 10, then bring it down after the roll . As a cooler I never throw em I just bet. Some people can Roll some can't, just a sad fact
This system isn't that good. Please DO NOT ATEMPT THIS. The best bet in the house is taking odds on pass line and come bets. This system ignores it. The odds of rolling a 4 or 10 is 2 to 1 why would you ever decide to get paid EVEN money for that. I don't really like telling people their system isn't very good but if you play this system for any length of time you will be in trouble.
Feel like I got trolled. Lost hundreds trying this 3 days in a row with $5 pass at bubble craps. Consistently had the don’t come get wiped out by the come bet
@@ColorUp Sorry just saying hundreds sounds dramatic. I'd roll a 7/11 consecutively to lose the $20 don't come bet twice. Each time I'd get the don't come bet on a 6/8, the come bet would land on it. It was just funny how bad it worked for me on the weekend!
@@jakes7302 Yeah, no matter the system, sometimes the dice just do not play nice. It can be frustrating when it feels like no matter what you do, the dice roll the opposite way
Not what I’m trying to do at all. I show ways to play game. This one I showed losing as most of my videos do. I’m very honest that strategies can win sometimes but casino always wins in the end.
@@shinestar2912 well it’s one of the better games as far as house edge goes in the casino. But it’s still a long term losing game for entertainment purposes and adults.
Takes a bankroll, Money Management, and knowing when to switch strategies based on what the game is doing. Hot, Cold, Streaky, Choppy etc. Good instincts is a plus as well. What i like about the Arnold is that it does great when its Cold or Hot. Just avoid the Point - Seven Out (PSO) is the key in this system.
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Thanks for the Video Jeremy! I appreciate the shout out! I have a few different versions of this strategy ! As i say on my channel! Any strategy will lose on any given day ! Enjoyed watching brother!
Lot of people seem to love it
Had you leveled up just the DC bet like the strategy suggested, you would up around $300 for the session. Dats pretty good...
I played this on a princess ship last December at the $10 , $40 DC. Ladder up 5 and 20. Highest I got up to was I think $125 on DC. I didn’t get rated well as only got a certificate for $150 free play, but I did end the cruise up $1000 on a 1700 buy in.
yeah for rating its probably only 60-70 points per hr playing at $10 level
@@ColorUp Princess is very secretive about their program anyway. Getting on the Emerald Princess on the 20th for a ten day. I will probably try the lite into Darkness strategy.
I’ve been playing this but from the Don’t pass at the casino and leave with a lot more money than what I can with! Waylon’s Way Craps has great strategies!
that's because the DC bet will lose when it's in the DC box to a 7 or 11, then it will lose again after it's moved to a box number and that number gets rolled for a second time.
@@douglasscovil3447no shit 😂
Wow, this is a lot of fun! I've never played the don't or come bets. I tried it out tonight with a $1000 bank roll. $25 dollar come bets and pass line bet, $10 odds on each come bet, then $200 on the don't come. I used your "See a horn, bet a horn." I made a $575 profit! Someone on your channel posted the idea: $200 DC and odds on each come bet.
Nice!
Should you play odds?
I watched this video and then practiced it online for a while to get the hang of it. So today I tried it out and it was a lot of fun. I didn't win a lot but I did leave up. I really like this system it kinda protects you from big loss and makes the game so much more enjoyable. I had a great time. I wish I found this channel sooner. THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO.
I rewatched this after that and I think I was playing it wrong. WOW but it still worked out somehow I had a great time and left up. So as far as mistakes go I got lucky. Thanks again for your videos.
haha threw that "And ladies" in there at the end. Love it! We are a growing crowd at the tables for sure right now. Thanks for reviewing this system. I may try out next weekend.
Ladies make for better craps players I think. Better temperament and logic brain, less macho pressing until lose all hahah...just my opinion.
I noticed that too. There are plenty of us ladies that know how to play haha. Think I'll try this out but at the $5 or $10 level
That 440 inside strat has been doing well for me, and very fun to play. Do more of that.
Good not losing strat for a cold table, or when you walk up to see how it's going around the table.
One of the very best Systems I've seen Period!! Like anything, you have to decide when to quit Playing and take your Money! I use it when I play Bubble Craps!
The major problem I see if that if the DC's end up as points of 6 and 8 and get sniped down quickly....On a hot table, you would get wiped out quickly and laddering wouldn't stop the bleeding......
Thanks!
Sorry for delay. Just now seeing this. Thank you so much!!!!
Wow, thanks Color Up! I will try this at the tables tonight at the Bellagio. Keep up the good work!
how did it work out?
A good boost to this system is adding full odds when the DC is 4 or 10. Pass Line odds when the point is a 6 or 8. See a horn, bet a horn too.
I like that this is a low risk system of playing craps. In fact you can play all day with this system even with a relatively small bankroll. I need a little more risk when I play craps especially if I get a roll in which numbers repeat a lot. I would want to play those come bets with some backing odds especially if the casino offers 10x or better. However, I’d give this a go if my bankroll was on the lower end & I’d have a grand old time playing.
My wish list for a video would be a table with 5 or 6 different players playing specific featured strategies at the same time with running commentary and scoreboard.
Same
Make it happen
Awesome idea.
The hours involved to make this happen. And then editing.
My dear Jeremy, get much help making this happen. And do not lose sleep. I will work on it another hour and turn it into sleepless nights. That makes grouchy Jeremy appear.
No video is worth that. It will get done when it gets done. You know many hundreds of hours will be required.
@@ColorUp Seems like the "standard" holds up well vs everything else.....
Thanks for doing this strategy. I doubled my money on a MSC cruise a month ago with this strategy. I played at the $10 level. It was a fun grind..
So you started with $ 10 and finished with $ 20 😀
If the don't come moves to a 6 or 8 , in our opinion would it be better to take down that bet and try again in the don't come bar?
While you could, making it thru the dont come is hardest part (avoiding the 7) once it’s on 6/8 the dont is now favored to win. If you don’t like that small edge, instead of pulling Don’t come down. Just make an equal size place bet on that number, puts you in a can’t lose position…then follow up with another don’t come bet if you’d like.
Probably a stupid question, but would it not be safer/better to place a min bet on don't come and then place maximum odds once it's established?
Thank you for this strategy! Tripled my money playing bubble craps!
Thank you for doing on the 15 dollar table
Try it again but play the DP instead of the Passline! If the DP loses ladder on the DP "only" up one unit on losses down a unit on wins!😉😎
I'm having trouble wrapping my head around the don't come...why wouldn't you just lay your favorite low roll numbers like the 4 and 10?
You could. Those pay 1:2 so the DC pays double. Ultimately it just depends how the dice roll, which would work out better.
Played this on a Bubble Craps machine that paid on the 12s
I liked it better on the machine than at the table
I appreciate your videos and your love of the game!
Ive been enjoying your videos alot and love the content! I just wanted to point out that the way you roll(with the dice in your palm) is not allowed anywhere that ive been. Not trying to be nitpicky or anything just wanted to suggest a different technique to keep it as real as you can! Thanks again for the content!
I roll the same way in every casino I’ve been all across country for many years. I’ve never had an issue, only rule is use one hand. So I’ve never heard of “can’t have dice in palm”
Ive recently been checking out the Arnold strategy and its different variances.
One comment I saw on a video was putting up even odds on your established come bets if your DC gets hit and then just let it roll out, 1 DC per shooter. Wanted to hear your thoughts on this?
Waylon is definitely the Master.
But your channel is much easier to follow
Try it again but play the DP instead of the Passline! If the DP loses ladder on the DP "only" up one unit on losses down a unit on wins!
Hey Jeremy, here's a crazy idea for you... How about playing the Arnold system on a crapless craps table? Pt gets established as usual. then lay the 2 or 12, then continuous come bets as usual. Laying the 2 or 12 is better odds than getting a Don't Come bet established, only 1 way to make each right? Your thoughts?
I would play it from the Dont Pass and add odds to the don't pass when you're playing the DC. Take the odds down after the DC bet travels behind a number. You could hedge the 11, but it rarely shows up.
Tried this on my app, but it won’t let be bet on the pass bar and the don’t come bar.
Correct me if I'm wrong but this would be even better at crapless tables? Can't lose on 2,3,12 on the come out roll and come bets.
Ok I've played this but I play the Arnold hedge.
So same thing but once the "don't pass" is placed on, you buy inside to hedge a 7 craps.
So you'd have 15 pass, 60 don't pass and $45 you buy inside.
And then you can cancel that out with a come and I always did takeoff wins. So say you hit the 8, you clear the 8 from the buy and put the come bet on it. And you keep going. Making sure you always have an Even hedge.
And I would double the come everytime I take a number buy off, or the come goes to the 4 or 10.
I call it the Arnold hedge. You can play almost forever
I'm a hedge guy.
@@Dee2thekae031 IT EATS UP ALOT OF YOU WINS. I'VE BEEN USING THIS SYSTEM FOR A IT NOW AND KNOW IT PRETTY WELL. I'M 25 OUT OF 29 SESSIONS WINNER FOR $25K- I LEARNED TO HEDGE IF I'M USING WINS FROM A 7 OR 11 ON THE COME OUT. ALSO I STOPPED DOING MULTIPLE DC BETS WITHIN THE SAME SHOOTER
Why not put the odds money behind as well, does that have a negative effect?
how about making the dc 5x instead of 4x and playing odds?
👍🏻
Making an Odds bet takes the system out of balance
@@jimklemens5018that's why you rebalance it with a bigger DC bet
@Asalieri2 Making the DC bet 5X larger than the other bets isn't enough to cover all of the Odds bets that you would add to the Come bets.
@@jimklemens5018 I mean, on average you're not gonna have all numbers covered.
Technically, if you want to do just a x1 odds, you could go from x4 to x8, it would definitely take a bankroll
What if you added any odds on pass line and come bets? Bigger payouts. Worth it?
Bigger risk, but bigger reward, just depends how the dice roll.
can you use odds with this system?
Of course, if your budget allows.
ty Jeremy. i have a cruise question. when you got to 1200 points where did you go to get your certificate and put down $200 deposit?
I got my certificate printed at host desk in ship. I put my deposit down in the Roy car app, but they have a “next cruise” sales area on the ships you can get help too.
Do you think you'll be able to fix your dicer version of this strategy? I had trouble getting it to work as well.
What do you mean trouble?As far as I know it is working fine. Let me know the issue you are seeing.
@@ColorUp there's a couple different ways it stops working. it only gets a few rolls in and then stops putting up the continuous come bet. I also noticed it stopped working properly if the DC gets picked off or if the pass line gets hit. For example, just ran it and point was 8, DC went to 5, the come line hit 11 and gets taken down (not still there to go to another point). There are several combos like that which makes it stop working.
Ok, thank you. I’ll submit to the developer.
@2ambiguous From dicer: Ok... so it turns out I pushed out a bug that affected the Arnold. It should be cleared up now though. No changes need to be made to your strategy. It should just work once they refresh their browser. Sorry about that!
I believe the best way to approach craps with strategies is having multiple ones. I would play this if the point was 6/8. If point was 4/10, I'd probably stay away from this and if theres a hot shooter. Use multiple strategies at their strengths instead of staying on one and hoping ur bankroll can make it till a hot run comes your way.
I played the Arnold yesterday in AC and walked away with a $575 profit!
was it Resorts or Ballys?
@@stevep8217 Trop.
@@stevep8217 Trop
Bump up the don't pass to $150 and go table minimum on come bets then place odds after come bets move to total come+odds to be $25-30. On $5 table, go odds of 3x4x5x
I find the DP, Come, Come, Come to be useful at times.
If you aren't the shooter, do you keep with the pass line bet?
Yes you would, it's part of the strategy to start with a pass, then follow up with the DC
But based off of your other video “Dallas Drawdown”, I will try that. But I will wait until the point is established first. Thanks for that. 😃🇺🇸👍🏾
I do either a 5 count method (Frank Scoblete) or my version a 3 count. 👍🏾🇺🇸
Waylon says you don't have to ladder if you lose the DC, just replace it
I like playing these don't strategies but usually take the odds too (or lay). As you know, It's the only bet the Casino pays you true odds. I see you usually don't. Can you discuss why not? I apologize if you have previously explained this.
Thanks
Avoid the pso , lay the 4 or 10, then bring it down after the roll
What if the 4 hits?
The “Ahhnold” system - “come with me if you want to win”
No odds. You’re waiting for the 7. This way, when 7 comes your current come bet pays for one of the contract bets on the board. If you play odds, it throws the math out of whack.
Good point
Thank you. That makes sense
Going to have to try this one out for sure!
The most winning system in craps is to hop every dice combination because you will always have at least one winning bet every single roll
Is this a re-upload? Could've swear I've watched this before.
I tried this system out live and didn’t have much luck with it. Was doing at a $5 and $20 level
If I also bet on the field and hedged my don’t come while waiting for it to get moved to a number. It worked a little better
I’m gonna have to play with this a bit more to see if it works for me or not. But so far, not good.
Why not just place a few numbers after the pass and DC bet? That way you get the odds and get on the numbers you want? Is it just to make it fun or what?
Can you just ask the dealer to place $60 on a don’t number of your choice vs placing on the don’t come?
Yes, it’s called a lay bet. Cost 5% commission
I don’t really like hedge type strategies, but good demonstration.
My only fear is hitting a point-7-out and lose 75$. Maybe a lay bet for one roll? Or maybe a lay bet instead of the don’t come. It’ll pay less of course but the immediate safety means more to me
I played on a long, but no point roll, and stopped making come bets when I had all the numbers covered. Big Red killed me
I played this. The only change I made was to put single odds on the Come bets until it reaches the Don't come bet if I lose it.
I don't follow...I understand craps but don't know what you mean when you say "until it reaches the don't come bet if I lose it"...huh?
@@stephenmcdermott1468 10 come bets with 10 odds...So your original DC bet would be $80....so instead of getting even money when your come repeats, you get alittle extra....if you lose, the DC will hedge you
Since ur bets vary so much depending on shooter…any idea how casino would rate the player
At $15 level, my guess would be the 60 plus maybe 2-3 come bets. So maybe 90$ avg bet?
Not a bad system, but I personally wouldn't use it because I PREFER the Iron Cross with collecting FIRST then pressing for every OTHER hit of the Iron Cross numbers like I replied back to you from one of your Iron Cross sessions that you covered, but shouldn't you be placing a $90 Don't Come bet to cover ALL of those other bets - the Pass Line plus ALL those Come bets, so that if the seven shows, it will be able to potentially COVER all of those losses so you break even???
Very interesting strategy
Slight change:
When you bet DO NOT COME, bet the come as well.
Thus, when you roll that number again, you recoup $15.
I agree. Once the point is established, play the Come bet on every roll, even when you get 4x on the DC. Thats the next variation that I'm gonna try. Thanks Jeremy
Agreed
You could always hop the seven on you first dc roll to take away the 7 leaving you the 11as the only bad number
You need to add odds on the come bets....you rolled 3 easy sixes....had you laid max odds on the first six and parlayed you would have made a ton of money.
Why no odds on those come bets?
You can add odds
I've been waiting for you to try this system. They way i understand how Waylon does the ladder is only if he's 7 out. He also doesn't the Arnold using the DP and the DC which I prefer Could you make a video using system please?
But if 7 out he wins so not sure he would ladder then. If he covers variations I’d just watch those. 😃 I don’t need to redo his work.
@@ColorUp he only ladders up when the DC gets hit....when a DC gets hit for 60, he'll throw 120 in the DC box, and then start placing $30 come bets....If another DC gets knocked down, he would go 180 and place $45 come bets....Remember his DC has to protect the come bets 4x....
“Funny how a craps table can change a person’s character,” thought Trish, as she watched the man next to her prepare to shoot the dice. He stood back, straightened his body, and took a deep breath. Then he arranged the dice so 6 and 5 showed on the top. He looked to the sides to make sure the right numbers showed there as well. He stepped back from the table a second time, closed his eyes, and took another deep breath. He then stepped up to the table, picked up the dice with his left hand, raised it so his arm was parallel with the table, held it there like a delicate pose in a classical dance routine, and with a gentle twisting of the wrist released them into the air in a gentle arc.
“10, Easy 10,” shouted the dealer.
The quiet that had reigned at the table exploded into excited talk as people rearranged their bets. Hard 10 bets had to be replenished, and some of the betters pressed their place bets.
“Come on, shooter, throw us a Hard 4!” shouted a man to the left of the stickman. The point was 8.
Again, Trish marveled at the transformation of the man. When he was not shooting, the man could have been a gung-ho major in the army or a prize fighter. He had a solid, tough-looking frame, but once he got the dice in his hand, the he-man suffered an attenuation, as poetry of his movement softened his demeanor.
The shooter had raised his hand, but he did not compete the motion. There was too much noise at the table. He set the dice down.
It was his seventeenth roll.
-- from "A Ballet of the Dice"
The degenerate in me is dying watching u play the dark side, I’m my mind, I’m due for a 45 min roll 😂
I have published the fact on my page that this man Waylon has shown well over 900 videos and not one of them has ever failed. This to me is a good indication that he is only posting winners. I have stated that I think by doing so he gives people false optimism and does a disservice to the craps community everywhere. He has called some the best ever and others unbeatable. Please know this does not reflect on Color Up as this is just my opinion.
Hi Eddie please share your website. I also follow Waylon's Way Craps on UA-cam; am interested in your take on his craps strategies. Thanks -TI
@@tireiron7500
My take is, he is a false profit. He plays his videos with huge bankrolls. He absolutely never ever loses after 900+ videos. You draw your own conclusion. My impression, like many others in the craps community, that he is only posting winners.
He labels too many of them as unbeatable or the greatest ever. It is my considered opinion that by doing this he is doing a disservice to the craps community.
Any system that requires you ladder up like almost all of his do is bound to lose. That is just a mathematical certainty.
@@eddieonthemoney2520 I think Waylon has a passion for craps and loves sharing different strategies he tests and reads about. Any craps or gambling strategy can win or lose. The value I see in channels like Waylon's, Color-Up, JackAce, Procraps or other's is the exposure to different gambling bets and hedge strategies based on bankroll and player type, aggressive, conservative or advantage. While watching someone lose at craps is probably boring, the strategy demonstrated is what I test based on my bankroll, gambling goal and general conservative player type. While I would agree with you only watching winning videos can be seen as a disservice; its also an education and that's my takeaway from time I spend watching these channels. I look for what's going to work for me and my conservative play style, can I win some, hedge my losses and have a good time knowing I'm not risking enough to worry about.
@@tireiron7500 is a hit or miss. I played it a few times. I have won money, but at the same time I have lost a lot of money. Like all strategies, it all depends on the big fat red number. If you rolled a PSO, you lose your pass line bet and you lose you DC bet. That will be costly after just two PSO's
@@eddieonthemoney2520 When you stated that he " never loses " what exactly do you MEAN by that???
Did he post ACTUAL LIVE craps table action of himself showing his SBR - Starting Bankroll - and how much he ended up with and IF it was profitable EVERY time, with either himself shooting ALONE at the table or also with others shooting and himself betting along with them with one of HIS strategies???
PLEASE explain.
(4:35) Slot Machine!
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Waylon has never lost a session of craps, I watched all his videos. He must live in a huge mansion with all those craps winnings.
Ha, I can’t verify but I’ve heard this before. I choose to show winners and losers. And wouldn’t ya know it…there are more losers than winning rolls. 🤷♂️
I have published the fact on my page that this man has shown well over 700 videos and not one of them has ever failed. This man being Waylon. I have stated that I think by doing so he gives people false optimism and does a disservice to craps players everywhere. Please know this does not reflect on color up. This is just my opinion.
well said 👍@@eddieonthemoney2520
Waylon's lost way more than you think ! That's how I learned to win lol
@@eddieonthemoney2520cry me a river
One more system the really works!!!
Except when it Really DOESN'T!
Just Saying.
Yup, I’ve never had luck with this strategy…
Love it but also hate it!
Played this on a carnival cruise....
As soon as I bet the Don't come.... 7... 4 times in a row...
THEN....
got to bet the dont come.... dont come on the 10.... immediately get a 10
Ugh 😩
so at any given point, you are risking 5 units to win 1 unit; $75 in play to win $15 and after 5 come bets you risk 180 to win 60 it's a grind strategy you'll never ladder up with this.
Only thing I would incorporate is what we number the DC goes to put money on the hard way if there is one.
If you had 5 or 10 on the hard 10 you would of won instead of losing it
I just bet all the numbers when a point is established and 7 out quickly, like 6/7 people in a row, 7 out in 3 rolls or less cuz why wouldn’t that happen. Let me play the don’t come next time and watch the pass line keep winning all of a sudden
Lotta work for $80 lol
This is just "The Best Craps Strategy" the only thing is you put max odds on the Pass Line and you put odds on your Come Bets, that's tje only difference
Many strats are just slight variations of others. Nothing is ever new.
I played real Craps for the first time in my life (lost a lot of money LOL) and the dice did actually roll off the table a LOT. So I forgive you for your missing walls LOL.
It happens. Glad you got your first experience, too bad it wasn’t a winner. Get em next time!
5:04 he swapped dice
Nope, picked it off floor
@@ColorUp i was joking sorry
@@stocktonfarnsworth-realtor8496 ha, no worries. It’s hard to tell sarcasm and jokes with written text. Appreciate you watching
You gotta watch Waylon. If you don’t do it his way, you won’t make money…..
I've never seen anyone use this at the tables
Because most players do not know it.
"I'll be back"
I see why the Dc ->>> gets Doubled
Every time I have tried this it fails miserably.
Ive only tried once, and it lost just $15 🤷🏽♂️ But haven't tried in the casino.
@@ColorUp It cycles just like any other system. That is when Waylon presses 1 unit each level to get the losses back. If you keep the bets the same you will not do as well.
A more simple version is betting 5 units on DC and playing iron cross..
As long as no repeater 7s on the come out your sitting pretty with steady profit so long as the point doesnt hit before 7
put side walls on your table, too many dice off the table
Dice go off tables. Keeping it real ha
Tried this strategy two more times after having some success the first time on bubble craps. Got DESTROYED. Kept getting my d.c. knocked off repeatedly. Laddering up ( Martingale) would have made it worse. Then, of course,I had the issue with 7/11 rolling while trying to get the d.c. placed. Back to Double Tap!
You can't expect good results not playing it the right way........
And the right way is? Waylon himself committed on this video and says he has many different versions
Avoid the pso , lay the 4 or 10, then bring it down after the roll . As a cooler I never throw em I just bet. Some people can Roll some can't, just a sad fact
This system isn't that good. Please DO NOT ATEMPT THIS. The best bet in the house is taking odds on pass line and come bets. This system ignores it. The odds of rolling a 4 or 10 is 2 to 1 why would you ever decide to get paid EVEN money for that. I don't really like telling people their system isn't very good but if you play this system for any length of time you will be in trouble.
Big fan of Waylon but NOT of the Arnold for many reasons you should know
Feel like I got trolled. Lost hundreds trying this 3 days in a row with $5 pass at bubble craps. Consistently had the don’t come get wiped out by the come bet
lost hundreds making $5 bets? hmm
@@ColorUp Sorry just saying hundreds sounds dramatic. I'd roll a 7/11 consecutively to lose the $20 don't come bet twice. Each time I'd get the don't come bet on a 6/8, the come bet would land on it. It was just funny how bad it worked for me on the weekend!
@@jakes7302 Yeah, no matter the system, sometimes the dice just do not play nice. It can be frustrating when it feels like no matter what you do, the dice roll the opposite way
Trying to convince people that you can beat the odds in craps is dishonest and delusional
Not what I’m trying to do at all. I show ways to play game. This one I showed losing as most of my videos do. I’m very honest that strategies can win sometimes but casino always wins in the end.
@@ColorUp Good enough. Only suckers play craps but fun is fun
@@shinestar2912 well it’s one of the better games as far as house edge goes in the casino. But it’s still a long term losing game for entertainment purposes and adults.
@@ColorUp Yes and your strategies are entertaining.
Takes a bankroll, Money Management, and knowing when to switch strategies based on what the game is doing. Hot, Cold, Streaky, Choppy etc. Good instincts is a plus as well. What i like about the Arnold is that it does great when its Cold or Hot. Just avoid the Point - Seven Out (PSO) is the key in this system.