2 Very Common Edgeguarding Mistakes (And How To Fix Them)

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  • Опубліковано 25 лис 2024
  • Songs used:
    Platinum Disco - Nisemonogatari
    Boo Boogie - Dance Dance Revolution: Mario Mix
    Here We Go! - DDR: Mario Mix
    Jump! Jump! Jump! - DDR: Mario Mix
    Starring Wario - DDR: Mario Mix
    Rollercoasting - DDR: Mario Mix
    The Forest of Hope - Pikmin
    Cool Cave - Kirby's Epic Yarn
    Luigi Circuit - Mario Kart: Double Dash
    I'm Glad You're Evil Too - PinocchioP (Soraru cover)
    Do you find yourself having trouble landing your edgeguards? This video might explain why, as well as what you can do to get better.

КОМЕНТАРІ • 505

  • @coinshot3951
    @coinshot3951 4 роки тому +723

    Other mains: cool now I know how to edgeguard properly
    Steve mains: *BLOCK*

  • @TaboCat
    @TaboCat 6 місяців тому +116

    its been 3 years daddy 🥺

  • @2Fab4Uowo
    @2Fab4Uowo 3 роки тому +188

    Easy counter to this: Never edge guard ever. Be afraid of the edge. The edge consumes all.

    • @aircall2065
      @aircall2065 3 роки тому +21

      Your opponent just watches you run to center stage

    • @Thekingpenguin947
      @Thekingpenguin947 2 роки тому +5

      Become the ledge.

    • @EditUnivers75
      @EditUnivers75 2 роки тому

      Or you can just time your inputs and kill your opponent earlier, bettering your chances of success in the rest of the match. You gotta take risks

    • @BooBooBaa-u8c
      @BooBooBaa-u8c Рік тому

      that use to be my mindset

    • @tommysikula5205
      @tommysikula5205 9 місяців тому +2

      All hail center stage. Everything comes back to center stage.

  • @sheep4558
    @sheep4558 4 роки тому +615

    BananaBoy is the reason why I want to he in competitive smash, thanks for all the tips and ways to get better at this game❤️

  • @ElasticLove12
    @ElasticLove12 4 роки тому +166

    Mario mains : so your saying I don’t have to always go for a fair every time the opponent even thinks about being off stage? 🤔

    • @solowsmash710
      @solowsmash710 4 роки тому +24

      Mario players don’t listen to him he is lying, bow to our lord and savor fair

    • @philipkeane6417
      @philipkeane6417 4 роки тому +4

      I do that most of the time as a mario main but make sure I have enough resources to recover.

    • @dylanenriguehuntington2908
      @dylanenriguehuntington2908 4 роки тому +3

      @@solowsmash710 ALL HAIL FAIR

    • @KakuraZenom
      @KakuraZenom 4 роки тому +2

      To be fair (lol) this move is so easy to land and so rewarding that you probably should always go for it 😅

    • @theblackbasketball
      @theblackbasketball 4 роки тому +2

      @@solowsmash710 As a fellow Mario main I agree. For his blasphemous words, he will be sacrificed to the ladder combo and
      *_F O R W A R D A E R I A L_* gods

  • @42carlos
    @42carlos 4 роки тому +146

    I can't stress how refreshing it is to go into a video without a long intro like "incase you don't know what edgeguarding is..."
    Just... thank you.

    • @Pablo_Martin_aa
      @Pablo_Martin_aa 3 роки тому +2

      It suprice me looking back at the video and seeing he wenr directly to the topic

  • @tusix7251
    @tusix7251 4 роки тому +73

    1:01 ALRIGHT BOYS THE PLAN IS SIMPLE - Ludwig

    • @muzzledoof6353
      @muzzledoof6353 4 роки тому

      I need to know what that song is

    • @usernamesarestupid
      @usernamesarestupid 4 роки тому +5

      @@muzzledoof6353 shiawase no monosashi

    • @brandtforester837
      @brandtforester837 4 роки тому +1

      MuzzleDoof count what you have now by vantage on spotify and iTunes, and probably Amazon music but I don’t know

  • @PollenDev
    @PollenDev 7 місяців тому +21

    Just wanted to post a comment because there is only one other one thats not two years old. I hope you are okay mental and physical wise no pressure just making sure ur ok

  • @Moss_Dude
    @Moss_Dude 4 роки тому +402

    Ok next teach me how to egdeguard without SDing 20% of the time

    • @kladen3
      @kladen3 4 роки тому +54

      Practice in training room extending as far as you can offstage with your moves to learn their range of how deep you can go and what causes you to SD

    • @harmless9336
      @harmless9336 4 роки тому +77

      You make it more stylish before you sd. It’s not about avoiding the sd, it’s about sding with style

    • @Moss_Dude
      @Moss_Dude 4 роки тому +69

      @@harmless9336 "It's not about winning, it's about sending a message"

    • @doooouge1136
      @doooouge1136 4 роки тому +6

      Look up his video about greediness

    • @viscosity7893
      @viscosity7893 4 роки тому +4

      Go to training room

  • @markcarls1896
    @markcarls1896 4 роки тому +158

    When he needs to pay his landlord but he lives with his mom

  • @marshallcoleman4406
    @marshallcoleman4406 4 роки тому +47

    Something hard to explain but rewarding when executed... is conditioning. Know the opponents recovery and options. Then bait and punish. Treat options like a 50/50 low high or RPS aka jump/attack/recover

    • @TheTrickmeister
      @TheTrickmeister 4 роки тому +3

      marshall coleman probably the simplest way of explaining conditioning is letting the opponent get away with a certain option for some time, then punishing the option later on after baiting it. Best saved for taking stocks.

  • @jimhenson7952
    @jimhenson7952 4 роки тому +1

    Videos like this are usually super vague and unhelpful but these are really great

  • @Zeyga
    @Zeyga 7 місяців тому +12

    Hope you're doing alright dude!

  • @kyx5631
    @kyx5631 4 роки тому +13

    I love watching your videos. Your humour, your cuts, your voice, your 7 frame novels that you put randomly somewhere on screen... It's just pure entertainment. I find myself laughing almost the entire time. And it's educational, too!
    Please don't stop.

  • @TaxiManVEVO
    @TaxiManVEVO 4 роки тому +4

    I'm glad your evil too as the outro music just proves that banana boy has the most goated taste in music fr fr

  • @Domlightning99
    @Domlightning99 4 роки тому +11

    As a luigi main, I appreciate you teaching us how to edge guard ness

    • @AGuy-0751
      @AGuy-0751 Рік тому +1

      as a luigi main who has a friend who plays ness, it is very useful

  • @ace_stallion
    @ace_stallion 4 роки тому +45

    What about Mario's that go for a forward air literally every single time you're even REMOTELY near an edge?

    • @firedodger1265
      @firedodger1265 4 роки тому +1

      1:46 when a Mario hits a FORWARD AERIAL in alpharad

    • @archygrey9093
      @archygrey9093 4 роки тому +5

      Because it is extremely satisfying to hit

    • @m_e_nere
      @m_e_nere 3 роки тому

      Alpharad was patient zero

    • @aSaiyan_Cloeku
      @aSaiyan_Cloeku 3 роки тому

      Because it’s works for Doc, also but no need to call out someone with a spike. They just die to star KO and that’s what’s fun about fairing with Mario, at ledge cause if it hits they get massively fudged up.
      Plus it’s just funny af when you kill with sour spot fair as Mario. Cause it’s just baby doc fair . Kek

  • @_hurglet
    @_hurglet 7 місяців тому +9

    you are like the only reason I'm any decent at ultimate please come back to me

  • @toadmations6086
    @toadmations6086 7 місяців тому +17

    Something tells me he got evicted

    • @swap6964
      @swap6964 3 місяці тому

      What the hell are y'all talking about

    • @swap6964
      @swap6964 3 місяці тому

      Like genuinly I have no idea

  • @ninjadudezack
    @ninjadudezack 4 роки тому +8

    Me, a Mac main: Wtf am I supposed to do with this

  • @chesscat_
    @chesscat_ 4 роки тому +2

    The fact that you can create a video that addresses my mistakes as soon as I recognize them for this long is insane.

  • @tylerbrown9631
    @tylerbrown9631 4 роки тому +2

    The audio is clean. The editing is crisp, and the content is on point. +1 sub

  • @PsiVolt
    @PsiVolt 4 роки тому +6

    This was great, I like how the two tips really just boil down to "edgeguard at the right time"
    but you take it at both ends of the spectrum and work out the issues at both extremes and, more importantly, what you can do to fix them

  • @AverageHandle_
    @AverageHandle_ 4 роки тому +11

    BananaBoy seems like a really nice person and I enjoy his content and watch even if I don’t think it will help me too much

  • @wildmonkeycar
    @wildmonkeycar 5 місяців тому +3

    Miss you, man! I hope all's going well!

  • @kevinarmes9804
    @kevinarmes9804 4 роки тому +1

    Love it! Suggestions for videos:
    1. Specific tricks you can use to edgeguard against specific characters
    2. Specific tricks you can you AS certain characters
    For example if someone has a counter they can jump out and use it against Ridley's up b
    Or Ness can use charged down Smash yo yo for most recoveries.

  • @TeethbatFGC
    @TeethbatFGC 4 роки тому

    Man I don't even play smash but you can still apply most of your videos to other platform fighter games always nice to watch

  • @Valnoir_
    @Valnoir_ 6 місяців тому +2

    Damn I came to watch the retrospective video again. As the start of it always gives me nostalgia tears. Hope you’re alright man

    • @chaomasterzero4610
      @chaomasterzero4610 4 місяці тому

      You cried to this video?

    • @Valnoir_
      @Valnoir_ 4 місяці тому

      @@chaomasterzero4610 nah a video that’s unlisted now.

  • @Sasukeuchiha131000
    @Sasukeuchiha131000 4 роки тому +1

    i caught that soraru at the end, hell yeah brother

  • @ereegodofeternity9451
    @ereegodofeternity9451 4 роки тому +24

    Last time I was this early tournaments weren't online

    • @kaiju4864
      @kaiju4864 4 роки тому

      That was like, 20 years ago or something

  • @lienwilliamson2082
    @lienwilliamson2082 4 роки тому +6

    You know, I feel like cloud is just little mac with a sword

  • @Barix5000
    @Barix5000 4 роки тому

    Man l've been missing your uploads this quarantine. Thanks for the advices and helpful content!

  • @clutchathan1476
    @clutchathan1476 4 роки тому +20

    I don’t know if I can brake my habit of using a fair with Mario offstage every time lol

    • @rosewarrior706
      @rosewarrior706 4 роки тому +6

      That’s understandable it’s a way of life not just a habit

  • @lalka4004
    @lalka4004 4 роки тому

    Thanks dude, now i'll be able to edgeguard with ease at *Dance Dance Revolution: Mario Mix*

  • @limitlesshoka5418
    @limitlesshoka5418 4 роки тому +1

    Since I’m a bayo main so this video spoke to me on a spiritual level I havent even watched it yet

  • @cade_blade6126
    @cade_blade6126 4 роки тому +1

    I’m so happy banana boy is back!

  • @gabrielemmanuelli3375
    @gabrielemmanuelli3375 4 роки тому

    Very good content bananaboy. From the looks of it, I edgeguard way too fast from what I see. This is something I want to fix, thanks for the tips

  • @sooshi4560
    @sooshi4560 4 роки тому +3

    Nice Ludwig reference

  • @godhunter411
    @godhunter411 3 місяці тому +5

    Bro please come back 😢

  • @ratsmacker676
    @ratsmacker676 4 роки тому +1

    *This guy inspires me to play quickplay, then when I do that I get matched with a Ness that has items, FS Meter, and 1 minute.*

  • @vinyl.c0dz
    @vinyl.c0dz 4 роки тому

    I haven't played Smash in a month. Thank you for being reliable.

  • @lynniagaming
    @lynniagaming 4 роки тому +13

    literally 2am, why am I up?

  • @RanserSSF4
    @RanserSSF4 4 роки тому

    One thing you can also do is mix-up when you edge guard alongside your ledge trap game or vice verse. I usually ledge trap a lot to make the opponent think I'm waiting, than once in a while, I'll go off-stage to attempt a edge guard when the opponent doesn't expect it, and possibly get a stock. I've done this a lot in friendlies, locals (before the pandemic happened), and recently a wifi regional bracket, and I won some rounds and took stocks because of it.
    It's the same case as this video, mixup your ledge trap and edge guard attempt to bait opponents to secure the stock or maintain stage control.

  • @tryhardpenguin9636
    @tryhardpenguin9636 4 роки тому +31

    “punish them” shows a picture of a belt

  • @manboi1794
    @manboi1794 4 роки тому

    I haven't watched in like a year but congrats for 100k!

  • @fallout88881
    @fallout88881 7 місяців тому +12

    Where'd he go??

    • @YallGonMakeMe245
      @YallGonMakeMe245 7 місяців тому +12

      Mental that I caught your comment at less than a days age considering the next latest comment was 2 years ago. Anywho idk he’s just fell off the face of earth it seems.

    • @fallout88881
      @fallout88881 7 місяців тому +4

      @@YallGonMakeMe245 right! It's so strange that there hasn't been any comments in 2 years, makes me think that new comments are being deleted

    • @notlucas6859
      @notlucas6859 7 місяців тому +1

      @@fallout88881i sorted by new and was just thinking about how the next comment after yours was 2 years ago. very shocking. i wonder what happened to him, hope hes alright

    • @shrekisthebest707
      @shrekisthebest707 7 місяців тому +1

      @@notlucas6859 Stop acting like he is in a terrible situation. It's quite obvious what happened. He's too lazy to continue, and too cowardly to respond to his fans. It's ok, he's a very average person, who's living a very average life.

    • @SampsoniteJr
      @SampsoniteJr 6 місяців тому +9

      ⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠@@shrekisthebest707who hurt you

  • @kirbybelmont
    @kirbybelmont 2 роки тому

    Love your video, I really wanna get better at playing smash and this wonderful tips will help me bro, you deserve more like and my respect!

  • @roy_mezz-awake2470
    @roy_mezz-awake2470 4 роки тому

    That clip at about 8:00 in the video made me think about how being put in a tech scenario can work, because if you hit the tech, your opponent becomes very punishable. In this example, Captain Falcon is caught up in Ganondorf's Up-B, but Falcon hit the tech, so he could easily go for either a B-Air or F-Air, depending on whether or not he grabbed the ledge.

  • @Max-Rtpmp
    @Max-Rtpmp 4 роки тому

    Your content improves video after video...that's kinda inspiring

  • @nathanbattraw5803
    @nathanbattraw5803 4 роки тому

    BananaBoy: Ok make sure to watch out for Chrom's up b, its very dangerous
    Incineroar mains: I'm about to end this man's whole career

  • @TheRabidChipmunk
    @TheRabidChipmunk 4 роки тому

    Quick tip: a great way to bait options from your opponent offstage without putting yourself at risk is to empty jump offstage and immediately come back. Lots of players will see you coming after them and will pick an option before they realize it was a ruse

  • @brandonvu5429
    @brandonvu5429 4 роки тому

    never would've thought I'd hear monogatari music in a smash video

  • @VibePrince1
    @VibePrince1 4 роки тому +1

    Always high quality videos

  • @elijahkarnouk7289
    @elijahkarnouk7289 4 роки тому +2

    me watching as a mac main
    "you dont need that offstage side b, just ledge pressure man *heavy breathing*"

  • @Walls69420
    @Walls69420 4 роки тому +3

    Damnn bananaboy watches ludwig, didnt expect that

  • @djdrizzy9139
    @djdrizzy9139 4 роки тому +4

    I hear that Platinum Disco 👌. I'm platinum satisfied with this video!

  • @Jescribano1
    @Jescribano1 4 роки тому +2

    Best video I have ever seen

  • @vyrawllxo300
    @vyrawllxo300 4 роки тому

    I love hitting a neutral B limit with cloud when they try to jump at me, it’s so satisfying.

  • @miguel480ac
    @miguel480ac 4 роки тому

    BananaBoy has really helped me get better!! I have really improved!!👍

  • @hectormartin9004
    @hectormartin9004 4 роки тому +2

    Love me some ludwig references

  • @luansomething380
    @luansomething380 4 роки тому +2

    My edge guard habits: opening the menu and hoping for magic burst lol

  • @grace4five
    @grace4five 4 роки тому

    BananaBoySSB: ok look at everything he does, then make a well-calculated plan to counter his plan.
    Me: Do I really look like a guy with a plan?

  • @krosshair450
    @krosshair450 4 роки тому

    *laughs in Nikita*
    But for real, this is a really nice video and it’ll definitely help me in events where Nikita isn’t an option

  • @teddythodo3302
    @teddythodo3302 4 роки тому

    It may not seem like it, but this really separates the bad from the good players.

  • @michaelflatt4663
    @michaelflatt4663 4 роки тому +1

    Hesitation is defeat.

  • @augustokenjihirata1544
    @augustokenjihirata1544 4 роки тому +2

    Must be sad failing to edguard Little Mac, but imagine getting edguarded by him

  • @javiercisnerosmoronta4692
    @javiercisnerosmoronta4692 4 роки тому

    Super educative, thank you, Bananaboy! :)

  • @rapasdecoeur7017
    @rapasdecoeur7017 4 роки тому +1

    The plan is simple, I'll try this

  • @lasko1828
    @lasko1828 4 роки тому

    Something I find funny of myself is how I doubt myself when it comes to edgeguarding with any character, but with the Miis I pretty much go "Screw You" and go for the edgeguards fearlessly even when I know I won't make it back.

  • @Horfact
    @Horfact 2 місяці тому +2

    We still miss you :(

  • @dumbweeb6942
    @dumbweeb6942 3 роки тому +1

    I love the lain gif at 0:20

  • @enchilada1792
    @enchilada1792 3 роки тому +1

    Damnit! Now everyone knows how to edgeguard my 2 mains! Helpful vid tho!

  • @Nonsense_Inc
    @Nonsense_Inc 4 роки тому

    as a mario main, i actually have less problems with edge guarding. if some one tries to revover low;the cape is the way to go. if some one tris to recover high; cape, forward air and up air could do it; recovering in a neutral height(between the first 2) cape or forawrd air

  • @Nerreave
    @Nerreave 3 місяці тому +2

    this video and, by proxy, this channel is awesome
    something like the asumsaus of helpful advice !!
    i hope ur doing well 🍌 !

  • @formestaken
    @formestaken 4 роки тому

    The cloud part was so true and helpful.

  • @monkyyy
    @monkyyy 4 роки тому

    As soon as i started paying more attention to my opponent, i got my first character into elite smash (and it wasn’t even a main so you already know i have a couple in there now)

  • @jaydenheimo8040
    @jaydenheimo8040 4 роки тому

    You really just made an entire speed art for a single transition

  • @really1583
    @really1583 3 роки тому

    You know what’s funny ness and Luigi are two of my mains

  • @c.9858
    @c.9858 4 роки тому

    I get his channel is to provide tips but personally I’d love to see some gameplay from him

  • @jibreelonafeko2614
    @jibreelonafeko2614 4 роки тому +1

    Alright boys the plan is simple

  • @kairos7049
    @kairos7049 4 роки тому

    the background music is very epic

  • @WanupDeShroom
    @WanupDeShroom 4 роки тому

    UR BACK TO THE BLUE YOSHI

  • @octupleodyssey
    @octupleodyssey 4 роки тому +5

    4:55 "when hes forced too" *laughs in best airdodge in the game* ...ur serious?

  • @stixsis4656
    @stixsis4656 5 місяців тому +1

    BananaBoy come back, I need you

  • @bojobees2414
    @bojobees2414 4 роки тому +1

    I don’t even have a switch

  • @kaiyodino
    @kaiyodino 4 роки тому +1

    subscribed from the ludwig joke

  • @jibs2371
    @jibs2371 4 роки тому +5

    Am I the only one who thinks doc has a worse recovery than mac?

    • @bonzai8
      @bonzai8 4 роки тому +1

      At least Doc can consistently snap the ledge

    • @jibs2371
      @jibs2371 4 роки тому +1

      @@bonzai8 mac does too. ua-cam.com/video/widRuJ29m2k/v-deo.html but I see your point though but doc still has the worst in my opinion.

    • @bonzai8
      @bonzai8 4 роки тому

      I see what you mean. At least Mac has a better recovery from smash 4 I guess.

    • @Snaiem13
      @Snaiem13 4 роки тому

      little mac has a better recovery than doctor mario but doctor mario actually has a decent one. the worst one is roy or ganon.

    • @N0GG1N
      @N0GG1N 4 роки тому

      ganondorf is easily the worst. His only mixups are to go high and grab ledge, airdodge in very specific situations, or double jump up air (this is the most common but still not exceptional)

  • @ZappBranniglenn
    @ZappBranniglenn 4 роки тому

    I love taking away an opponent's resources one by one in extended edgeguard scenarios. Unfortunately, a lot of character designs have all their good options refresh on hit, so at best I'm just tacking on extra % until they make it back to the ledge. So frustrating.

  • @nd710
    @nd710 4 роки тому

    Ok Bananaboy, we love u

  • @Rogue_Rouge
    @Rogue_Rouge 4 роки тому +1

    8:18 a few frames of yoshi with vibe check face

  • @mr.mcflurryco.1034
    @mr.mcflurryco.1034 4 роки тому

    I’m gonna say that maybe when ness took the bait maybe shielding to up b or a quick up smash would have been a good punish

  • @setsana_inc
    @setsana_inc 4 роки тому +1

    8:35 ahh yes, what i was actually here for

  • @wxanime2703
    @wxanime2703 3 роки тому

    Nobody is talking about the Nisemonogatari OP in the background ? XD

  • @tubarao_happy
    @tubarao_happy 4 роки тому +4

    So... were you able to pay rent ?

  • @mayfeiadetenailoyalistofno3376
    @mayfeiadetenailoyalistofno3376 4 роки тому +7

    I don’t play smash anymore but, I’ll support and try to put this in FPS games.

  • @DanteHikato
    @DanteHikato 4 роки тому

    To add on to his point about ledge guarding. If your good enough. People with teleport recoveries are extremely gimpabale. Practice 2 framing.. out of all recoveries teleports (for me) ate the easiest to gimp. Like sheik, palu's zelda's (good zeldas will clip you with the last hit) and mewtwo

  • @benferrisinverts4198
    @benferrisinverts4198 5 місяців тому +4

    3 years will you ever come back or are you done with smash and or youtube?

  • @RefractionIX
    @RefractionIX 4 роки тому

    This is so very helpful! Thank you!

  • @sebastianfernandez6146
    @sebastianfernandez6146 4 роки тому +1

    10/10 Ludwig reference

  • @saltyfox1321
    @saltyfox1321 4 роки тому

    I’m just getting back into ssbu and this vid is great