Even hearing information you aready have in your brain can be helpful. Use it to look at the information from all perspectives and reassess your playstyle to see if you're implementing that information effectively. You might already know all that but other people that look at this comment may not, so I'm posting this for that purpose
This is an amazing video! I learned a lot of this over months, but this covers just about everything in under 12 minutes! This is GREAT for players getting more experienced, especially the ledge-trapping scenario.
I love this super distilled video format for purely educating us about the raw mechanics I thought I knew everything about the ledge mechanics, but it turns out I didn't know: - You get more intangibility the longer your airtime before grabbing the ledge... That changes things - For each regrab of the ledge, all getup options have reduced intangibility... No wonder I get consistently wrecked during normal getup despite having "1 frame of vulnerability", and no wonder people want to roll after a regrab. - Ledge Trump DI... I guess this was a thing but wasn't really clear - Sooner ledge trump has more frame advantage - Tether ignores 2 frame rule (but still vulnerable until reeled in) - Each tether counts towards intangibility deterioration
This video is SO GOOD. Covered pretty much everything about the ledge. The other part is just character specific options and option selects, which simply takes player experience
snake and samus are probably the best ledge trappers. there's so many good ledge trappers. swordies are insanely good at edge guarding. for example lucina, corrin and sora all have counters and big disjoints to defend the edge as well as strong recoveries to keep them from getting reversed by the majority of the roster.
Snake ledgetrapping unironically goated. He's got like unlimited options that can hard knowledge check or attention check at least the opponent. I don't know about strongest in the game, there are a couple characters that i might say are better, but i think snake is actually underrated in ledgetrapping
In my opinion Rosalina and luma is the strongest ledgetrapping character if given enough time to set up. If you don't have enough time to set up, they are still very good, but other characters can be better.
The strongest ledge trap characters i say depends on how you want to ledge trap my example Samus is a all rounder kirby can cover with bair his up b is a strong ledge trap tool if the opponent is already trying to recover while off stage
@@zebraboi_ I was looking for this comment. I also agree with your guess. Kazooie is pretty easy to see, but it’s really hard to make out Banjo in all that mess.
I am watching this with the mindset « do I already know everything they are going to say ? »
Even hearing information you aready have in your brain can be helpful. Use it to look at the information from all perspectives and reassess your playstyle to see if you're implementing that information effectively.
You might already know all that but other people that look at this comment may not, so I'm posting this for that purpose
did not know 5:55 very interesting
This is an amazing video! I learned a lot of this over months, but this covers just about everything in under 12 minutes! This is GREAT for players getting more experienced, especially the ledge-trapping scenario.
Now all we need is a ledge hanging compilation that shows every character hurtbox on ledge, great work guys.
I love this super distilled video format for purely educating us about the raw mechanics
I thought I knew everything about the ledge mechanics, but it turns out I didn't know:
- You get more intangibility the longer your airtime before grabbing the ledge... That changes things
- For each regrab of the ledge, all getup options have reduced intangibility... No wonder I get consistently wrecked during normal getup despite having "1 frame of vulnerability", and no wonder people want to roll after a regrab.
- Ledge Trump DI... I guess this was a thing but wasn't really clear
- Sooner ledge trump has more frame advantage
- Tether ignores 2 frame rule (but still vulnerable until reeled in)
- Each tether counts towards intangibility deterioration
This video is SO GOOD. Covered pretty much everything about the ledge. The other part is just character specific options and option selects, which simply takes player experience
This is high quality, I love to see it!
excellent video, straight to the point not too long while highlighting all the bases
Great work, proud of the team
I learned a lot from this. There were a lot of nuances to these mechanics that I didn't realize I was missing out on. Excellent work!
Excellent video. Great coverage of techniques and meta/theory in gameplay
Lets go!!, tutorial/guide!!! 🔥🔥🔥
I learn something new on each episode.
Thanks a lot
I had no idea ledge trumping had a version of DI, very interesting!
snake and samus are probably the best ledge trappers. there's so many good ledge trappers. swordies are insanely good at edge guarding. for example lucina, corrin and sora all have counters and big disjoints to defend the edge as well as strong recoveries to keep them from getting reversed by the majority of the roster.
Luigi would like to have a word with you
@@redpandafanatic180he'll have to get back to ledge first lol
Snake ledgetrapping unironically goated. He's got like unlimited options that can hard knowledge check or attention check at least the opponent. I don't know about strongest in the game, there are a couple characters that i might say are better, but i think snake is actually underrated in ledgetrapping
i forgot game and watch his ledge trap is nutty too
TY!
In my opinion Rosalina and luma is the strongest ledgetrapping character if given enough time to set up. If you don't have enough time to set up, they are still very good, but other characters can be better.
belmont, samus and steve have the best lendge trapping, link pacman and min min are runners up
You forgot to yell, "Ledgetrapping!!" as loud as you can
Does tether canceling add to the air time for invulnerability?
DDD's ledgetrapping is pretty insane
The strongest ledge trap characters i say depends on how you want to ledge trap my example Samus is a all rounder kirby can cover with bair his up b is a strong ledge trap tool if the opponent is already trying to recover while off stage
Wait, tether cancels count for regrab deterioration...
But, even if it's the first time you actually choose an option on the ledge??
Missed something with tethers... the Belmonts don't use up special OR grab inputs. :/
I think PT is the strongest ledge trapper, specifically Squirtle.
Samus. Snake
@@fupalover why did i forget so hard about these two my bad lmao. So correct
3:42 yo whose this character on the stage in this render? It’s kinda hard to tell
I think it’s banjo
@@zebraboi_ I was looking for this comment. I also agree with your guess. Kazooie is pretty easy to see, but it’s really hard to make out Banjo in all that mess.
I just wanna learn to be good with sora and cloud
I was playing online and a Mario hit me on ledge even tho I had my shild does any one know why?
Thx for explaining like a normal person and not explaining at the speed of light lol
6 times, must remember that
4:05 that is not a 2 frame lol
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