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  • Опубліковано 18 жов 2024
  • The Sound Couple heads off to a new/old bar! This is the first time The Sound Couple is working as a team at this venue, but Bart was there with another band in prior years with a different band.
    In making the video, it fueled memories of years past and thinking of the people who are no longer with us and the memories we all have of the gigs and people we remember.
    The Sound Couple primarily use PreSonus gear featuring:
    PreSonus UC Surface
    PreSonus CDL12
    PreSonus CDL18s
    PreSonus 32R
    PreSonus SW5E
    PreSonus NSB Stageboxes
    PreSonus AVB-D16
    Please see our "About" for a more comprehensive list of gear we use.

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  • @DeanKWilson
    @DeanKWilson Рік тому +3

    Logistics, Unknowns, Budget, and Bar Gigs-a great beginning to another instructive time with The Sound Couple. And, its a console-based gig. Fortunately, Willow gets the appropriate priority-or maybe it’s Willow’s budget that gets the priority. In any case, Bart will be solo for at least part of this gig.
    I took note of the following “Learning Points” in this video-rich, as always with lots of opportunities to learn from The Sound Couple:
    1. As someone who has to use a powered wheelchair when outside my home, I had to cover my eyes when Bart parked in a designated handicap spot. But, he did make it clear it was just for a very short time to load and unload, when no other convenient nearby parking spot was available. He kept the hazard flashers on to alert people to the temporary nature of his location. And, he also emphasized that it was a practice he would not recommend. So, because I am a true fan of The Sound Couple, and because I wasn’t looking to park at this gig myself with my handicap-accessible van, I graciously give The Sound Couple a pass. (Insert winking emoji here.)
    2. Having to create one’s own stage is a unique problem for a production company. Fortunately the teamwork of The Sound Couple makes quick work of this challenge.
    3. The flash back to Bart’s time as a musician was an enjoyable way to transition during this video. The passage of time is always something we should enjoy. And, for those of us who have had “a crew cut and the crew bailed out,” it is worthy to remember those long ago days when we actually had hair on our heads.
    4. Every time I see the drink sliders in action, I have to smile and realize what a really clever idea they are. All the more so because they came about following a suggestion of another one of the wise followers of this channel.
    5. Uh, oh! Another overhead run of Cat-5 cable. This always presents a “hold-your-breath” challenge. At least Stacy didn’t have to climb a ladder this time. The use of the mic stand and mic clip as an extension rod to place the Cat-5 cable was a great idea.
    6. It is important for production companies to face real problems head on without over-emphasizing potential problems before they actually exist. Thus, running the Cat-5 cable over top of the power plug for the clock seemed reasonable at the time and ultimately proved to be so. Remember, the construction of the Cat-5 cable for audio use is designed to reject noise.
    7. It is always an important learning point whenever Bart gives us a tour of any piece of equipment. This time, the tour of the console in its wheeled rack lets us see how he employs the Cat-5 connection to also give him the ability to control the stage lighting from the console position. This is very useful when Stacy may not be present for the entire gig, since she usually is the one running the stage lighting. And, its important to note how Bart’s patch panel allows him to quickly set up the console, along with the pre-connected cables for the laptop and other devices. This effort in advance helps minimize both time spent and confusion during set-up at a gig.
    8. Time Conservation is in the forefront, as Rhino the Band runs their own stage lines. But, the production company must still double-check, even triple-check that all is working properly for the gig.
    9. Bart highlights the way the shut-off of a wireless mic can affect the input of noise on the mixer. Coordinating past experience about this issue with the band helps with potential possible troubleshooting.
    10. It is always helpful, and a good learning tip, when Bart explains when and why he chooses to use the stage boxes. In this case, the availability of various lengths of Cat-5 cables was instrumental in making the decision.
    11. Another set of learning points: Bart’s explanation of how he is using the various layers of the console, how he is recording using PreSonus Studio One, and how he is using the Yamaha SPX 990 through the Aux Returns for special effects.
    12. With the signature drum intro, Rhino the Band takes off with a flourish at another action-packed gig. The stage that Bart and Stacy created works perfectly for the gig. It even has a raised platform for the drummer. Ingenuity on display!
    13. And, following her 70-mile round-trip, Stacy is back from feeding and caring for Willow. The “LightMaster” has control of the stage lighting. The crowd-more “close watchers” than actual dancers-with significant drinks in hand, gather around the stage, just in time for us to again revel in the use and great value of the drink sliders.
    14. As usual, watching the tear-down and load-out has lots of good learning points. By now, hopefully everyone has watched both Bart and Stacy properly coil cable using the alternate-reverse-coil method that preserves the cable by preventing the twisting of the jacket that tends to separate the jacket from the conductors. This is such an audio industry standard, yet many people in the production portion of the audio industry still don’t realize the damage they are doing to their cables by coiling them using several other methods that, over time, will lessen the life of their cables. There are several videos on UA-cam that describe this proper method.
    15. Learning Point: Have you noticed when Bart removes the CDL12s that he always sets them on the floor in exactly the proper orientation that Stacy needs, in order to quickly and properly place the CDL12s into their protective covers. Stacy has done a video on the method she uses. Her method is the height of efficiency and also guarantees that the protective covers will last a long time. That video is posted on the earlier portion of this channel.
    16. Learning Point: Bart and Stacy close the video with a reminder of how important maintenance of equipment and vehicles is to a production company.
    What a touching tribute st the end. Wonderful memories linger forever.
    Another truly enjoyable and instructive video populated on the channel. Thanks to Bart and Stacy for, once again, letting us tag along on a gig that was bursting with learning opportunities. We wait with eager anticipation for the next video from The Sound Couple.

    • @thesoundcouple
      @thesoundcouple  Рік тому +1

      Hi Dean - thank you for the "pass"! We too are very sensitive to this need for some folks. It was a judgement call we made. Some venues make it very difficult to avoid this option as they are not vendor friendly. Thanks again for your breakdown of the night! Overall, it was a good gig and will continue to look forward to them there.
      We will be back there in a couple of weeks and we are debating on whether or not to make a video since we have this one and at least one more sitting in the "to do" pile. There are a few primary elements to the the videos: Band, location and Us. We will always be there so if the band and location stay the same, should we still do a video? Perhaps we let the cameras roll and see if anything interesting happens?

    • @DeanKWilson
      @DeanKWilson Рік тому

      Bart: My vote is that you should always post a video. There is something in each video for us to learn, as we watch you and Stacy tackle the challenges of a particular time at a venue.
      A good example of this can be found in numerous previous videos. During the early days of your channel, we went with you and Stacy to White Bear Lake UMC several times. Each time there was a chance for us to absorb several learning opportunities.
      Similarly, we saw numerous gigs with Rhino the Band at various venues. Each of those videos had points of commonality, yet still presented many learning opportunities.
      I would urge you to take us along, even when you may think we’ve seen the venue or the band before. I am confident we will have great enjoyment and ample opportunities to learn from The Sound Couple during every video.

  • @djjazzyjeff1232
    @djjazzyjeff1232 Рік тому

    Well that ending was very nice. Don't be sad because it's over, smile because it happened!

  • @martinehlert
    @martinehlert Рік тому

    Bart & Stacy :-) It is so much fun to see you work so good together in this business. I like your videos a lot. Greets and love from Germany :-) Martin

    • @thesoundcouple
      @thesoundcouple  Рік тому +1

      Thank you Martin! Welcome...our channel provides a glimpse of what it's like working in Midwestern US...we catch a lot of grief for our Scandinavian accents! We hear it more when we listen to our videos!

    • @martinehlert
      @martinehlert Рік тому

      You accent does´nt hurt my ears ;-) I like your videos a lot. I am an experienced self employed sound engineer and I learn every day new things. What you two folks are doing has my 100 % respect. Keep doing what you are doing with heart and soul. 💯

  • @clumhain
    @clumhain Рік тому +3

    great job, really supportive of the band mix too with FX. I hope it pays you well as you certainly deliver! Great team!

    • @thesoundcouple
      @thesoundcouple  Рік тому

      Thanks! It helps that we enjoy what we do since we are unable to retire just yet!

  • @machineplaysBR
    @machineplaysBR Рік тому +1

    exelente trabalho estava esperando video novo

    • @thesoundcouple
      @thesoundcouple  Рік тому

      Obrigado! Temos muitos mais vindo!

    • @dr.joaopaulodepaulasouza7310
      @dr.joaopaulodepaulasouza7310 Рік тому

      Que legal mais um brasuca apreciando essa bela dupla... obrigado @thesoundcouple vocês são incríveis 🎶🙏🤠

  • @MrMotoden
    @MrMotoden Рік тому

    The tribute at the end is really nice and it made think. We should tell people these things while we still can. I don't do this. I better get started.
    Thanks for your efforts.

    • @thesoundcouple
      @thesoundcouple  Рік тому

      That's good to hear....you are absolutely right!

  • @harlanchaput
    @harlanchaput Рік тому

    It’s sad all the people you’ve lost. I watched to the end and read ever one. It was a beautiful tribute to the people who meant so much to you. Love your videos!!!

    • @thesoundcouple
      @thesoundcouple  Рік тому

      Thanks Harlan. I will say that I was a bit surprised how many myself. Really sad part is that all of them too soon.

  • @petemurry7863
    @petemurry7863 Рік тому

    Nice to have wonderful memories. Thanks for the vid.

    • @thesoundcouple
      @thesoundcouple  Рік тому

      Thanks...hopefully you have a some of your own!

  • @geraldwatkins3543
    @geraldwatkins3543 Рік тому

    Great video as always. Teared up a little at the end. It is a blessing to still be here doing what we love.

    • @thesoundcouple
      @thesoundcouple  Рік тому

      Thanks for hanging in there to the very end. Appreciate your sentiments...every person listed has contributed to who I am today as a sound/musician guy. We are all here for a short time and with each year that passes, we become even more grateful.

  • @dereknebrida8468
    @dereknebrida8468 Рік тому

    Hi guys, I am always watching your videos, I'm from the Philippines and doing a small scale set up. unfortunately, I stopped for a while because I need to find a reliable job that will provide my family's needs. here in our place I don't have a regular set up. For approximately a month I just have 2 or 3 events and with very low payment.. I admire you guys doing what you love and your skills are amazing.. hope that I can also have equipment the same as your using. God bless.. 😊😊😊

    • @thesoundcouple
      @thesoundcouple  Рік тому

      Thanks for sharing your story. Hopefully we are able to help you in the work you do. Both Stacy and I have day jobs as well because this business is cyclical and admire those that are able to support themselves and families by doing what we love doing!

  • @fabiac1
    @fabiac1 Рік тому

    Great job as always. That seems a lot of sound for a small place.

  • @hezekiahcharles6754
    @hezekiahcharles6754 Рік тому

    Good job ,Sound Couple. Always excellent.

  • @rubiosproducciones
    @rubiosproducciones Рік тому

    Hey guys, very nice video and awesome job, a quick question, the speaker pole where did you get it? I have a pair but is to big, thanks and greetings from Connecticut 🎶🎤🎧

    • @thesoundcouple
      @thesoundcouple  Рік тому +1

      We have a pair of Gator ID series poles, and subsequently acquired Rockville Gaspoles since they were rated to handle the weight of 2 CDL12's.

  • @RegularTennesseeJoe
    @RegularTennesseeJoe Рік тому

    Crown headset mic….I have had three of those. Good sounding mic!!!

    • @thesoundcouple
      @thesoundcouple  Рік тому +1

      Yes, I had a Cough Drop mute switch that worked great with it! I hesitantly sold that mic because I thought I would need it again....but for better or worse, I have not. I sold it to a fellow drummer and it served him well for many years!

    • @RegularTennesseeJoe
      @RegularTennesseeJoe Рік тому

      @@thesoundcouple sold mine as well. Ended up buying a Shure WH20 and it just wasn’t the same! As always we enjoyed the video!! Keep up the good work!

  • @mustang0513
    @mustang0513 Рік тому

    Hey Bert, great work, you guys are awesome.....qiestion, what kind of tablet is that??? it looks huge...(thats what she said)😂😂

  • @DEWAYNE552
    @DEWAYNE552 Рік тому +1

    That wireless mic when turned off cause the receiver to output hiss, so the squelch needs adjusting on the receiver to prevent that awful sound from coming out the mains. Bart, you knew that. I’m just saying for the rest of the folks who may not have known. Another great show you guys.

    • @chrisgreenwood4728
      @chrisgreenwood4728 Рік тому +1

      we had that issue with 3 wireless microphones, in the end frequency it was using that was interfering with something (we have no idea what it was), we changed the frequencies and its stopped doing it

    • @Elniniss
      @Elniniss Рік тому +1

      That’s why digital wireless is the way to go. I had that problem with older analog wireless and whenever there is any sort of interference when the microphone was off, the loudest most annoying noise came out the receiver.

    • @makingmusiconline2309
      @makingmusiconline2309 Рік тому

      That 80s song … so good!

    • @thesoundcouple
      @thesoundcouple  Рік тому +2

      An interesting point is the fact that I was confirming again an issue we have already seen in the past (would not be acceptable if it was my gear). Bottom line, don't over step your boundaries...I reported the issue (again) and will consult on a solution if I am asked to. I see some guys assume it's ok to attempt to fix it....I learned that if you do that, not only could you make it worse, you now own that issue and any other problems that can be linked back to the change "you made" indefinitely into the future and it can backfire on you. If it's bothering them enough, they need to make the effort to resolve, even if it's simply asking for your help...but don't take it on yourself unless you absolutely know what you are doing and can guarantee your work. In this case, I am not familiar enough with this system to guarantee any of my troubleshooting/resolution steps.

    • @DEWAYNE552
      @DEWAYNE552 Рік тому

      @@thesoundcouple Excellent point Bart.
      What hits Home is ‘becoming the owner of an issue’. I had to quit fixing my relatives computers for that exact problem. I was getting called for every darn thing that they couldn’t figure out!
      Good call!

  • @junejhunkie
    @junejhunkie Рік тому

    Command strips for the cables overhead next time you’re there! Would love to hear more of your drumming days.

    • @thesoundcouple
      @thesoundcouple  Рік тому

      Really not a bad idea, but I would be concerned about the bar getting excited about sticking things on to the wall. I find it hard to believe that they just haven't put some hooks in the wall with all of the music they have there...I don't get it.

  • @nscaledelights
    @nscaledelights Рік тому

    Lol great use for a mic stand even if Im not using mics, Last week I got a PreSonus ERIS 3.5 speakers lol for my computer they sound awesome.

    • @thesoundcouple
      @thesoundcouple  Рік тому

      They do make a lot of nice products and sometimes you get creative and by luck, there is no better way!

  • @pascalmerschaudio
    @pascalmerschaudio Рік тому

    love your videos

    • @thesoundcouple
      @thesoundcouple  Рік тому

      Appreciate that! Thanks for taking the time to watch them!

  • @JOHNDANIELS254
    @JOHNDANIELS254 Рік тому

    I am a great fan of your channel.are u based in UK or USA kindly

    • @thesoundcouple
      @thesoundcouple  Рік тому

      We are based in the US- Minnesota.
      Thanks for watching!

  • @conradtrevor8407
    @conradtrevor8407 Рік тому

    Unique stage platform...could you throw some light on what they are called or what that is

    • @thesoundcouple
      @thesoundcouple  Рік тому

      These look like someone built these for that space. 2x4's, plywood and carpet. We are back there this weekend and will take a closer look!

  • @matheusdiniz5905
    @matheusdiniz5905 Рік тому

    Hey, Sound Couple. Can you send the full reference of light setup? I'm from Brazil and it's will be very usualble primarlly because the light stands in comparison of the old Q30 struts which are expensive but still widely used here. You're doing a great job, I'm inspired by you.

    • @thesoundcouple
      @thesoundcouple  Рік тому

      Thanks for watching! Check out this video of ours where we do go over a lot of our light setup. Hope this is what you’re looking for!
      ua-cam.com/video/9HA7sJwYpkE/v-deo.html

  • @benjaminruiz8900
    @benjaminruiz8900 Рік тому

    What your total cost of this set up . that you guys take out for a band to play on. a round fiquire. Awesome set up. love how you guys and handle the sound egineering.

    • @thesoundcouple
      @thesoundcouple  Рік тому

      Thanks Benjamin....we don't have standard rates and it varies on the type of gig and the time requirement. Out of town shows become more of challenge as the gigs sadly don't have the budgets in some cases to account for your hours spent/gas consumed on the road to get there.

  • @TalentLe8159
    @TalentLe8159 Рік тому +1

    The bands Wireless mic I have the same one but it’s a EW500 G4 e945 mic and when I turn it off it makes noises or if it’s out of battery so that’s the common issue and I usually keep it muted and when show starts the mic channel is unmuted

  • @jamiegeorge4167
    @jamiegeorge4167 Рік тому

    Great gig as always, just wondering in a bar like this, what db do you try to achieve?

    • @thesoundcouple
      @thesoundcouple  Рік тому +1

      We typically like to not go over 100dB. It depends on the room and the vibe as well.

  • @nickharvey5149
    @nickharvey5149 Рік тому

    I haven't done music production for quite a while now (never had digital when I last did it!). Can you clarify the 'signal' path from FoH to the stage please? Is Light and PA both going down the same CAT5 and being re-separated/demuxed at the stage? Where does the Netgear router come into it? Thanks

    • @thesoundcouple
      @thesoundcouple  Рік тому

      Hi Nick...good question! The cat5 from FOH to stage is primarily for AVB (audio) to the stage boxes. It's nice that AVB will support Ethernet, so any device (AVB/non-AVB), will have network presence if plugged into it. For lighting, we typically use our Donner wireless DMX dongles. The Netgear router is a AT&T Hotspot. From our NowSonic router, we configured a wireless WAN to the device for Internet access. Bottom line, we have our own private network for all of our devices with seamless Internet access..

  • @dustinthiessen
    @dustinthiessen Рік тому

    Ever wish you could go back to playing again? I go through phases where I really miss playing, but I'm a way better mixer than I ever was a drummer... lol

    • @thesoundcouple
      @thesoundcouple  Рік тому

      Great question Dustin. I like the idea of being a musician, but the reality is I like being on the production side better. My biggest concern is that the physical demands and late nights are going to become a larger issue for us as time passes. I find that we are enjoying our time off quite a bit so the tables may be shifting. Used to be bummed to have a weekend off, but not so much anymore!

  • @ljmike1204
    @ljmike1204 Рік тому

    Ahhh maaan i wanted to do the bah bah bahhhh on sweet caroline who ever did the edit i hope you get put on santa.s noughty list 😂😂😂😂

    • @thesoundcouple
      @thesoundcouple  Рік тому

      I guess you can blame us then! Can't remember if that is done at every show or not!

  • @cinethrillproduction
    @cinethrillproduction Рік тому

    Pls can you guys make a video of what it takes to start up a production company on a low budget

    • @sound4uaudiovideorecording927
      @sound4uaudiovideorecording927 Рік тому

      😂

    • @thesoundcouple
      @thesoundcouple  Рік тому

      Not sure if we are the best qualified for that topic. The biggest point is to start, but I can't say I was perfect and got lucky in the sense we got a good chunk of business because I use to carry a lot of debt. I am a different person now and can't ever imagine doing it again that way....so that's horrible advice and we pay for our gear now or we don't get it. It helps that we have day jobs and we do loan money to the business for bigger purchases.

  • @CayroproductionsAdan
    @CayroproductionsAdan Рік тому

    What DB were u running los tod the time? And never passing db?

    • @thesoundcouple
      @thesoundcouple  Рік тому

      We don't check every gig, but I am guessing we were around 98-100dB.

  • @kristoforkolumb4158
    @kristoforkolumb4158 Рік тому

    you are a great team

    • @thesoundcouple
      @thesoundcouple  Рік тому +1

      Thanks! We like to think we work well together!

  • @maynman45
    @maynman45 Рік тому

    So you mentioned that you turned down something like 5 or 6 other gigs for the same weekend. I don't know where you live and work, but is there not much competition? are you that much better? I am curious how you promote your business?

    • @thesoundcouple
      @thesoundcouple  Рік тому

      Hi Maynard....great question. I really don't know if there is a single answer, but here are my thoughts:
      1. I think there is a shortage of small production companies in the area that are willing to serve bands and events who can't afford the higher rates of larger production companies. Meanwhile, all of the other gigs have been corporatized with big budgets and big production, leaving a big gap in need since most production companies want those gigs.
      2. Most of our contacts are bands and there are lots to pack in here in MN during the summer months so there are dates that when it rains it pours...lots of street dances and city festivals going on in July/August/September. I have noticed more seasonality to production now, so that isn't helping the allure of it. We have day jobs, so it's not as big of deal to us.
      3. There is less people that want to do this work...We know of bands and production companies that can't find help. I just saw a Facebook posting where a cover band was willing to pay bonus and train you without any experience.
      All of our business is word of mouth...There is an organization here that does numerous weddings and they always need production...we are turning down as many as we can take due to other obligations...but they are always in need it seems....but again, it's seasonal.
      There are likely more reasons, but that's just a few that come to mind.

    • @nickharvey5149
      @nickharvey5149 Рік тому

      @@thesoundcouple You have day jobs as well? Blimey!!

    • @thesoundcouple
      @thesoundcouple  Рік тому

      @@nickharvey5149 Ha Ha! Stacy is a teacher and I am in IT.

    • @nickharvey5149
      @nickharvey5149 Рік тому

      @@thesoundcouple I am also in IT now, but I used to tour (Director) very big bands round Europe!

  • @robfriedrich2822
    @robfriedrich2822 Рік тому

    I had a gig, where the drummer thought, he could do it without any microphones, but his bass drum was practically inaudible. I expected a cajon player, had a SM57 only but this was ok, the goal wasn't to simulate a 60" bass drum.

    • @thesoundcouple
      @thesoundcouple  Рік тому

      A good ol' 57 is always good to have with you!

  • @safarizantudin1223
    @safarizantudin1223 Рік тому

    🤗 Adakah Saya #1 Hadir...

  • @imaxeman69
    @imaxeman69 Рік тому

    Y'all get a lot of work from Rhino. If I'm ever in the Twin Cities area, I'll have to check them out. They seem to be a really good band.

    • @thesoundcouple
      @thesoundcouple  Рік тому

      Yes! They are playing all of the time. Our gigs with them have backed off considerably as they have gone in another direction with their production needs.

  • @XIIMonkeysMusicGroup
    @XIIMonkeysMusicGroup Рік тому

    Couldn't you use the 32R as a stage box?

    • @thesoundcouple
      @thesoundcouple  Рік тому

      Yes we could have...however, there was no real benefit in this case.

  • @XIIMonkeysMusicGroup
    @XIIMonkeysMusicGroup Рік тому

    Digital gear isn't plagued nearly as badly with interference issues as the old analog gear was anyway!

    • @thesoundcouple
      @thesoundcouple  Рік тому

      Good point, but running any wire by a transformer can get people worked up!

  • @robfriedrich2822
    @robfriedrich2822 Рік тому

    RHINO is your company's name?

    • @thesoundcouple
      @thesoundcouple  Рік тому

      Not quite....Rhino is the name of the band we were working with at this gig.

  • @lelhothedevil
    @lelhothedevil Рік тому

    what rack do you have for your board?

    • @lelhothedevil
      @lelhothedevil Рік тому

      (what dimensions?)

    • @thesoundcouple
      @thesoundcouple  Рік тому

      @@lelhothedevil Here is the link to the one we have: www.roadreadycases.com/product/11u-slant-rack-16u-vertical-rack-with-casters/. Please note that this "technically" a bit too shallow for the console, but we made it work for us. We use a couple of right angled connectors and needed to prop the front of the console with a couple spacers. We like then not having the extra depth which would take up more space in transport and at the venue

  • @ianmaslin2986
    @ianmaslin2986 Рік тому +1

    Did it really need that much pa?

    • @thesoundcouple
      @thesoundcouple  Рік тому +3

      Technically, no. It is interesting to mix with the system in idle....has a different vibe to it.

    • @dustinthiessen
      @dustinthiessen Рік тому +1

      @@thesoundcouple I'd always rather the headroom, than pushing a PA to the edge of its capability. added bonus it's a lot easier on the gear 👌🏼

    • @JOHNDANIELS254
      @JOHNDANIELS254 Рік тому

      I am a great fan of your channel.are u based in US or Uk kindly

    • @thesoundcouple
      @thesoundcouple  Рік тому

      @@JOHNDANIELS254 We are in the U.S.

  • @ben81
    @ben81 11 місяців тому

    👍🏻✅❤❤

  • @manydreams1life315
    @manydreams1life315 Рік тому

    How do you set room eq?

    • @thesoundcouple
      @thesoundcouple  Рік тому +1

      There are a lot of instructional videos out there to explore this topic. In a nutshell, you can use your ears and measuring tools. I used to use measuring tools (RTA mic/pink noise) occasionally which was helpful for learning, but now, I primarily use my ears. It's a combination of make it sound good to your ears and cutting any problem or offending frequencies. The better your system is tuned, the easier all of this becomes.