I never commented on your video's but i want to say thank you for your video's, I have a degree in graphic design and somehow the last few years i didn't have a passion for it anymore i also couldn't see my self doing it for the rest of my life. I really wanted to do a job where i could be more active instead of sitting at a desk all the time. At that time i was already watching your video's and i found it very interesting, i tought by my self i always really loved music, shows and the technics behind it. Im still 21 so i changed my study to become a audio and stage engineer. I really wanted to leave a comment to say thank you for inspiring me to choose this job and keep making video's i like it!
Woohoo, proper new content from Chris! Keep up the nice work, your videos helped me and my band to prepare for a few self-organised shows together with other bands where we also took the double duty as sound engineers, and there are more to come, so I'm already looking forward to more content from you.
@chrishammillaudio You made a remark in the last video that you'd like having mute groups on hand more rapidly. You can setup a midi controller with buttons on port #4, channel #4, for those CC's (values 0-127): #28 = M.Grp #1 #29 = M.Grp #2 #30 = M.Grp #3 #31 = M.Grp #4 #44 = M.Grp #5 #45 = M.Grp #6 #46 = M.Grp #7 #47 = M.Grp #8
Zelda + CHill FTW! 🙌 Thank you for sharing what FX you put on your stream. Sometimes I get the Mix just right but doesnt have the Power or Glue to make the Stream sound tighter (if that makes sense lol) - I will test what I learned!
Nice. This all is so similiar like on our Club where I do FoH. Stagesize, Clubsize. Monitor-Setup, PA-Setup. Kind of same Bands from Metal, Dark, Black, Trash-Metal and sometimes Hardrock to Punk. Until last Week i used a X32 Rack, now I have a Wing Rack (great update). I'm dealing with the loud drums and Amps/Cabinets. At FoH I have around 100db and cymbals are so dominant and overrides the cabinets. Making everything louder than everything else ;-) is not a goal. And I often struggle mixing the Monitors loud enough for musicians but not that loud that they will overrun the PA. Next step would be a setup for the Bar, but I'm not shure if this will lead to a delay problem, The speakers there are running against the Main stage and not in line... Thank you for you view into your work. I like the videos and learned a lot.
8:06 Here's a tip for the stream and bar feeds! You can use two of your matrices as your Pa instead of your LR and treat your LR like a mix buss. Makes your stream and bar feeds unaffected by your eq moves on your LR that are specific to the pa and not the mix! Also, you can have your stream as a bus if you need to send stuff into that you don't need in the mix for foh in the room, but that's dependant!
I understand the local I/O problems with the full-size, but as someone who used the wing in both broadcast and FOH applications, most of our inputs were over aes50. In my opinion, it's better to save the money on the local inputs you can't move and spend it on a stage boxes you can move.
totally understadable to not sound as good on a board you barelly know. I would try virtual soundcheck and give it a few hours perfecting the mix. usually that goes a long way.
The wave designer on the x32 for kick and snare is such a clutch way to shape the drum sound. Is it possible that because it's not the house kit it just... doesn't sound as good? Either a drum issue or tuning problem? The snare on the 4th band sounded much better than the 3rd so either you figured it out or the player just had better technique or a nicer drum. Sounded good either way.
It’s definitely not the drum kit. If you watch any of my mixdown meltdown videos, I have gotten really shitty drums sounding good and full in the mix. I’ve also mixed tons of different drum kits in the venue over the years. I just need to get used to the console more. Overtime it will improve.
Loved the video. Have you thought about a sound isolation pad for your camera?(Or active gimbal). Love the effect though. Also have you seen the video on Rick Beato 2 "How the Pros Mix Live Music", I was skeptical about the EQ on my Master(I stream) but the difference was night and day.
Don’t need a sound pad for the camera since it’s not producing sound in my stream. Gimbal still has the same shakey issue because of low end literally hitting the camera.
@@chrishammillaudiovery cool. On PTZ and Static cameras the sub shake through the room(floor) causes the camera shake. Hence why I said using a sound absorber. Since it is a gimbal and it is front sub power, not through the floor, I can only think of one solution. Bigger motors heheh. I would love to hear what the gimbal company said if you sent them a video for support. I wonder if they could tune the motors to combat the shake. Bass traps for cameras now that would be hilarious. Keep up the Awesome.
My camera is a RX100 and I even tried using a Ronin S. Still shook. The stabilization in the camera is just not good. If I use my bigger pro cameras it’s far less noticeable
@@chrishammillaudio that is hilarious I have the FZ1000 the Panasonic 1" Bridge camera similar to yours. I have a similar issue if I breathe on that when it is fully zoomed out, heheh. Years ago I saw an Aussie Camera Bag that they use for cars and things like that before gimbals came along. Love what you do, excited to see more
Just curious what subs and tops you are using. Are those bottoms bassboss dual 18s? Also how many are you using. The place i am looking at opening in thailand will be about the same size venue and thought id ask. Thanks !!!
Very nice video dude. Btw, how did you get a unit? Other question, for the music feed from the PC, why are you using 2 different channels for it? They are stereo, could you use only one? Or is it on purpose? Thanks
It seemed clearer when you switched to the Wing...I'm only on Dirt...but it still sonically sounds better...the snare on Honor Among...seemed quieter....Rahway needs more practice....is that thee Bullet Boys?? Leads seemed low and background vocals I would have buried in the mix.... Keep up the videos!!!! It's tough learning on the fly! Kudos!!!
I was prioritizing the house sound over the stream. By the time Bullet Boys ended I had a healthy balance of house/stream. Drums were killing me the whole show. I can definitely hear a better sounding pre from the Wing vs the X32
@chrishammillaudio at close to the start of the introduction of the Wing. You turned up the main fader, and then it looked like you turned up the house speakers from 2 faders.
Because it renders the fader next to it completely useless and I'd rather have 2 functioning faders than have 2 channels be taken up with only one fader being actually used.
@@chrishammillaudio No it doesn't. It only uses one fader/channel for stereo leaving the one next to it free for the next instrument. The wing routing works completely different from the X32 in which you would eat up two faders because each channel is mono. Try it next time, go to routing, sources, select local 23, select stereo on the right and it will link both inputs together. Then go to channels, select channel 24 and select the linked source. It will put that on only channel 24 and leave 13-23 free for other instruments. I know it's hard coming from an X32 as well but you really need to forget everything you know about that ecosystem because apart from the brand and the stageboxes, the mixers are completely different.
@@chrishammillaudio Yeah, I got that too. I've been using a full size for about 2,5 years by now, I've gone through a lot of trial and error myself at this point. If you need any help, hit me up.
@@chrishammillaudio What Bart said! The way this console handles stereo and the flexibility with putting anything on any fader is one of my favorite things about it. It can be a bit to get your head around it but as soon as you see how powerful it is, it feels super constraining to go back to anything else.
Behringer must've sent it to him a while back. Companies do this with content creators so that they can review the console early and perhaps influence people to preorder it
WOW. I probably have more Behringer products than Behringer knows they have, but I never got into making UA-cam videos. I have the x32 Wing, all their speakers and subs...They owe me $$$. 😆
I never commented on your video's but i want to say thank you for your video's,
I have a degree in graphic design and somehow the last few years i didn't have a passion for it anymore i also couldn't see my self doing it for the rest of my life.
I really wanted to do a job where i could be more active instead of sitting at a desk all the time.
At that time i was already watching your video's and i found it very interesting, i tought by my self i always really loved music, shows and the technics behind it.
Im still 21 so i changed my study to become a audio and stage engineer.
I really wanted to leave a comment to say thank you for inspiring me to choose this job and keep making video's i like it!
Awesome! Keep at it and you’ll eventually have more good days than bad.
I feel those yawns during the fourth act. The sound guy is always first in and last out on a gig.
Some days are marathons. 😂
All the bands sounded great to my ears, Bullet Boys was great, especially my friend Brad, killing it on bass. Most awesome job Chris
I've had so much fun listening to music through the Behringer Wing Compact. I love it a lot.
👍
😂 you had me at “that’s what she said” 😂👍👍👍👍👍
Woohoo, proper new content from Chris! Keep up the nice work, your videos helped me and my band to prepare for a few self-organised shows together with other bands where we also took the double duty as sound engineers, and there are more to come, so I'm already looking forward to more content from you.
Super! At 21:20 I liked the sound, the singer and the musicians the most!
Just got my Wing Compact today and this is the best tutorial video out there on this console! Thanks!
Right on!!! I saw when they came out and I reallllly like the wing, so I hope it works great for y’all! Rip X32
Sweet! its good to see the console in action.
That was awesome! Just ordered my Wing Compact. The streaming was great. Need to learn how to do that.
You’re gonna enjoy the console.
Wing and Batz. It's a match-made in heaven haha. Nice video Chris!
Thanks for watching!
look at the bat wing!
@chrishammillaudio You made a remark in the last video that you'd like having mute groups on hand more rapidly. You can setup a midi controller with buttons on port #4, channel #4, for those CC's (values 0-127):
#28 = M.Grp #1
#29 = M.Grp #2
#30 = M.Grp #3
#31 = M.Grp #4
#44 = M.Grp #5
#45 = M.Grp #6
#46 = M.Grp #7
#47 = M.Grp #8
20:29 "scarlet king" here rips !
Love that cranked snare !
I’m really proud of that mix.
Zelda + CHill FTW! 🙌 Thank you for sharing what FX you put on your stream. Sometimes I get the Mix just right but doesnt have the Power or Glue to make the Stream sound tighter (if that makes sense lol) - I will test what I learned!
Nice. This all is so similiar like on our Club where I do FoH. Stagesize, Clubsize. Monitor-Setup, PA-Setup.
Kind of same Bands from Metal, Dark, Black, Trash-Metal and sometimes Hardrock to Punk.
Until last Week i used a X32 Rack, now I have a Wing Rack (great update).
I'm dealing with the loud drums and Amps/Cabinets. At FoH I have around 100db and cymbals are so dominant and overrides the cabinets.
Making everything louder than everything else ;-) is not a goal.
And I often struggle mixing the Monitors loud enough for musicians but not that loud that they will overrun the PA.
Next step would be a setup for the Bar, but I'm not shure if this will lead to a delay problem, The speakers there are running against the Main stage and not in line...
Thank you for you view into your work. I like the videos and learned a lot.
loving all the new content man!! try not to push yourself on uploading stuff(imma binge these 2 new vids)
These were all edited last week. Glad you’re enjoying them.
8:06 Here's a tip for the stream and bar feeds! You can use two of your matrices as your Pa instead of your LR and treat your LR like a mix buss. Makes your stream and bar feeds unaffected by your eq moves on your LR that are specific to the pa and not the mix!
Also, you can have your stream as a bus if you need to send stuff into that you don't need in the mix for foh in the room, but that's dependant!
Matrix feeds get my mix bus so that’s 2 different copies of the same feed.
@@chrishammillaudio so you put everything into one mix buss and then send that to matrix and lr?
Yes
that snare verb you had going in the final band was awesome! sounded sick
Final band is when I found the mix right for sure.
X32 killer. it is what it is but thos mixing board seems to definitely be an upgrade and its compact
Just did a stream tonight and the mixes were night and day better overall.
Ahh the Little Wang! I have a soft spot for the Wing, even though we sold ours a few years back because all our guys hated it. 😂
“Allen & Heath 4 Lyfe” 🤘
greatvideo dude, subbed! Thanks for posting!
Great Video man!
Love the video I learned so much from this
JERSEY REPRESENT!
the Wing Compact has a cleaner mix... all the instruments are clear including the vocals are clear...
Any real keyboardist will insist on stereo DIs for keys (excluding synth bass and leads;) this is the only way. Love the content!!!!
I understand the local I/O problems with the full-size, but as someone who used the wing in both broadcast and FOH applications, most of our inputs were over aes50. In my opinion, it's better to save the money on the local inputs you can't move and spend it on a stage boxes you can move.
If you’re going to use the console in a smaller environment that doesn’t have a stage box, the compact is way more versatile in that sense.
@@chrishammillaudio Yh I agree as it's easy to move the console as needed.
totally understadable to not sound as good on a board you barelly know. I would try virtual soundcheck and give it a few hours perfecting the mix. usually that goes a long way.
I uploaded a virtual soundcheck video doing just that.
@@chrishammillaudio nice. gonna give it a listen. thanks for the content
Thank you for being part of why AI will never take our jobs.
The wave designer on the x32 for kick and snare is such a clutch way to shape the drum sound. Is it possible that because it's not the house kit it just... doesn't sound as good? Either a drum issue or tuning problem? The snare on the 4th band sounded much better than the 3rd so either you figured it out or the player just had better technique or a nicer drum. Sounded good either way.
It’s definitely not the drum kit. If you watch any of my mixdown meltdown videos, I have gotten really shitty drums sounding good and full in the mix. I’ve also mixed tons of different drum kits in the venue over the years. I just need to get used to the console more. Overtime it will improve.
@@chrishammillaudio Seems like you got it nailed by the last band though so that's quick progress! Cheers.
@@timothyrixner appreciate it. Still have a ways to go though.
Thanks for the inspiring Video. In Terms of sound quality- could you notice an improvement to the X32? Preamps, A/D …?
Night and day difference.
Loved the video.
Have you thought about a sound isolation pad for your camera?(Or active gimbal). Love the effect though.
Also have you seen the video on Rick Beato 2 "How the Pros Mix Live Music", I was skeptical about the EQ on my Master(I stream) but the difference was night and day.
Don’t need a sound pad for the camera since it’s not producing sound in my stream. Gimbal still has the same shakey issue because of low end literally hitting the camera.
@@chrishammillaudiovery cool. On PTZ and Static cameras the sub shake through the room(floor) causes the camera shake.
Hence why I said using a sound absorber.
Since it is a gimbal and it is front sub power, not through the floor, I can only think of one solution. Bigger motors heheh.
I would love to hear what the gimbal company said if you sent them a video for support. I wonder if they could tune the motors to combat the shake.
Bass traps for cameras now that would be hilarious.
Keep up the Awesome.
My camera is a RX100 and I even tried using a Ronin S. Still shook. The stabilization in the camera is just not good. If I use my bigger pro cameras it’s far less noticeable
@@chrishammillaudio that is hilarious I have the FZ1000 the Panasonic 1" Bridge camera similar to yours. I have a similar issue if I breathe on that when it is fully zoomed out, heheh.
Years ago I saw an Aussie Camera Bag that they use for cars and things like that before gimbals came along.
Love what you do, excited to see more
Just curious what subs and tops you are using. Are those bottoms bassboss dual 18s? Also how many are you using. The place i am looking at opening in thailand will be about the same size venue and thought id ask. Thanks !!!
I have a video on the specifics but it’s a Bass Boss system.
Very nice video dude. Btw, how did you get a unit?
Other question, for the music feed from the PC, why are you using 2 different channels for it? They are stereo, could you use only one? Or is it on purpose?
Thanks
Behringer sent me one. I have 2 stereo matrix feeds. One goes to the bar, the other to the stream/computer.
The Wing is a nice step up in audio quality.
Someday all consoles will actually sound good. Someday.
Kind of a morbid take to have, but cool 👍
It seemed clearer when you switched to the Wing...I'm only on Dirt...but it still sonically sounds better...the snare on Honor Among...seemed quieter....Rahway needs more practice....is that thee Bullet Boys?? Leads seemed low and background vocals I would have buried in the mix....
Keep up the videos!!!!
It's tough learning on the fly! Kudos!!!
I was prioritizing the house sound over the stream. By the time Bullet Boys ended I had a healthy balance of house/stream. Drums were killing me the whole show. I can definitely hear a better sounding pre from the Wing vs the X32
My school has the full size wing and we love it better than our old one but what headphones are you using to hear the mix?
EX29
@@chrishammillaudiothanks I've always wanted to know
Nice mixer,
Are you still using the Bassboss speakers and still loving them?
You can see the bass boss speakers in the video, so yes I’m still using them.
Maybe I did not get this but I am asking myself if you are working with parallel compression of the drum bus?
Now I am, yes.
@ ah this explains the fat and thick drum sounds. Great!
Is it drums only or is the bass also parallel compressed?
One of my most recent Vlogs goes into my mix settings and my results are far better than the results I had in this video.
That's pretty impressive. Is it wise to be able to control your house speakers on separate faders?
Mains are on one fader. Not sure what you mean.
@chrishammillaudio at close to the start of the introduction of the Wing. You turned up the main fader, and then it looked like you turned up the house speakers from 2 faders.
No. Master fader and then I raised individual tracks to send to the mains.
@chrishammillaudio oh ok 👍 I was mistaken. Thanks for clearing that up. Thanks for the videos too
Do you use aes50 for stagebox or analog?
Aes
Do scenes from the X32 transfer over to the snapshots of the Wing?
I believe there is a way to.
How did you get it already??
Behringer sent it to me.
can the wing compact be mounted in a combo mixer/rack case with rack ears?
It can be mounted 3 different ways in cases depending on your needs.
Not sure if I missed it- but how do you have this console already??
Behringer sent it to me.
@@chrishammillaudio Great flex!! I'm talking to my SW rep and he can't promise me anything before December smh.
Why don't you put the stereo sources on one fader?
Because it renders the fader next to it completely useless and I'd rather have 2 functioning faders than have 2 channels be taken up with only one fader being actually used.
@@chrishammillaudio No it doesn't. It only uses one fader/channel for stereo leaving the one next to it free for the next instrument. The wing routing works completely different from the X32 in which you would eat up two faders because each channel is mono.
Try it next time, go to routing, sources, select local 23, select stereo on the right and it will link both inputs together. Then go to channels, select channel 24 and select the linked source.
It will put that on only channel 24 and leave 13-23 free for other instruments.
I know it's hard coming from an X32 as well but you really need to forget everything you know about that ecosystem because apart from the brand and the stageboxes, the mixers are completely different.
@@BartKrap I’ll try that. This is taking some getting used to.
@@chrishammillaudio Yeah, I got that too.
I've been using a full size for about 2,5 years by now, I've gone through a lot of trial and error myself at this point.
If you need any help, hit me up.
@@chrishammillaudio What Bart said! The way this console handles stereo and the flexibility with putting anything on any fader is one of my favorite things about it. It can be a bit to get your head around it but as soon as you see how powerful it is, it feels super constraining to go back to anything else.
dude switched out a console 15 mins before the band shows up...
*over an hour.
is your company going to sell the x32?
No. I’m still gonna use the x32 when I work there.
Why You are not using stereo channels? It's not x32 :) You don't have to link channels :)
Thank you, millionth person to say this. I know.
As an IT person, update your iMac! Catalina is outdated!
As a sound person, that wing is Sick! It'll be definitely put to it's paces with you 😂
The only thing we use it for is playing music. No need to update.
how did you get one so soon?
Behringer must've sent it to him a while back. Companies do this with content creators so that they can review the console early and perhaps influence people to preorder it
^^^
WOW. I probably have more Behringer products than Behringer knows they have, but I never got into making UA-cam videos. I have the x32 Wing, all their speakers and subs...They owe me $$$. 😆
@@agentfizz1047 As far as I’m aware Behringer never does paid content nor give anything for free to creators.
They aren’t paying me. They sent me the console and said I can keep it providing I make content with it.
por que tu tienes esa consola si aun no sale
Because Behringer sent me it.
@@chrishammillaudio yo también quiero que me envíen una jejeje