I GOT SAURON!! He's perfect for BIG OFFGOING decks!

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  • @Cynik45
    @Cynik45 Рік тому +174

    You’re absolutely right about featured locations. I hate being forced into deck choices so I typically just put the game down when there are featured locations.

    • @Chonkpanda
      @Chonkpanda Рік тому +5

      That’s like half of the time😅

    • @Justkidding277
      @Justkidding277 Рік тому +6

      I enjoy them every now and then, but I feel like I'd enjoy it more if there were more of them in a week, but each one were a shorter duration.

    • @ConradSly
      @ConradSly Рік тому +11

      they only last for a few days... I think the pros of encouraging some new deck building out way the cons of those few days feeling pretty same-y. Maybe they should reduce the number of days they are featured for as a decent compromise? Or maybe there's a separate queue for ranked that doesn't have the feature location odds skewed.

    • @rishiy6183
      @rishiy6183 Рік тому

      The Meta is impossible to change otherwise since they can't constantly add new cards

    • @tellyg47
      @tellyg47 Рік тому +3

      Featured locations are a must.

  • @murlocaggrob2192
    @murlocaggrob2192 Рік тому +92

    Fun comic fact about Sauron: He picked that name, in-universe, not because he's a dinosaur but because he's a huge Lord of the Rings fan.
    That is not a joke.

  • @kristf2251
    @kristf2251 Рік тому +38

    12:23 Regis : "i think we care about the stats on Sauron frankly"
    Also Regis a few minutes ago : *sends down 60 power Red Skull*

  • @vitorqueiroz8791
    @vitorqueiroz8791 Рік тому +50

    Its impressive the amount of variety that marvel snap provides
    I mean, hearthstone first year had at most 10 different decks with almost the same ends and game plan
    But marvel snap has at least 30 variety of decks and archetypes where you can play in 30 different ways

    • @bluepaintedhawk2368
      @bluepaintedhawk2368 Рік тому +22

      And a big reason for the variety are the locations. They bring so much fun and surprises in the game. Featured locations suck tho

    • @OrganizedChaosHD
      @OrganizedChaosHD Рік тому +5

      keep in mind that unlike HS not everyone has all the cards in snap, nor the ability to craft the card they want for the deck they want to tryout, so its harder for the meta to converge to specific decks

    • @vitorqueiroz8791
      @vitorqueiroz8791 Рік тому +1

      @@XoIoRouge im not saying that Hearthstone is bad, im saying marvel snap is awesome

    • @vitorqueiroz8791
      @vitorqueiroz8791 Рік тому +1

      @@OrganizedChaosHD im not saying that idt doesn’t have its bad feats, but its really cool how the game can be so wide even though its so young

  • @chorko696
    @chorko696 Рік тому +22

    I like how Sauron buffs the Lizard, removing his debuff. Both are people with the intention of turning people into........something

    • @GenJuhru
      @GenJuhru Рік тому +2

      What's next? Fin Fang Foom 😆... 🤔💡

  • @NaughtyOddity
    @NaughtyOddity Рік тому +26

    I love your energy, especially your laugh and reactions to funny moments. Had a rough day, this put a smile on my face and was a great distraction. Thank you 😊

    • @zeli979
      @zeli979 Рік тому +1

      Ahah love his laugh too :p

  • @maxl8623
    @maxl8623 Рік тому +16

    Personally featured locations are great. Maybe you end up seeing the same or similar decks after a while but it's also different from the same meta hugging decks you usually see/go against so it's a bit of variety in opponents.

    • @person2156
      @person2156 Рік тому

      I think this was the point he was trying to make when he was talking about what he thought locations were going to be originally but I think because they stay for so long people basically play into it and it ends up being days of seeing X deck 50%+ of the time

  • @alcodark
    @alcodark Рік тому +10

    death's domain works like the altar, in terms of aero

  • @glass916
    @glass916 Рік тому +5

    I think featured locations are fun when they make off meta decks stronger, alter of death sucks because it makes already meta decks even more prominent

  • @shenronsgoldfish
    @shenronsgoldfish Рік тому +4

    My only issue with featured location is that it feels like they all make the hood/Nova/carnage package good. Except lamentis -1 that just made death insane

  • @astral_ragtime5365
    @astral_ragtime5365 Рік тому +1

    The ultimate Leader counter: just don't play cards.
    I nearly choked on my drink I was laughing so hard, amazing

  • @Skkull
    @Skkull Рік тому +1

    That second game felt so good oh my god

  • @lucaguglielmo2142
    @lucaguglielmo2142 Рік тому +1

    "The ultimate Leader counter is just not playing any card". It's even more fun cause it's kinda true!

  • @braydenmiller7224
    @braydenmiller7224 Рік тому +1

    I think you're totally right about locations. The games has a very diverse library of cards comprising many different strategies and for the most part those strategies are all viable. The game is balanced around locations not benefitting either player or strategy in-particular because they are random and vary greatly. When a certain location is featured it feels like it takes what is normally a very diverse game and then makes it very homogenous by greatly benefitting a certain strategy. Maybe they could award extra xp or some currency for the use of a certain featured card every once in a while or make a certain card avaliable to all players to try out for a bit. It might achieve a similar effect of players getting an addition incentive to expirement without having games that just feel like if you don't go all in on whatever is being pushed you will have a bad time.

    • @ItsNotXhad
      @ItsNotXhad Рік тому +1

      I think it would also help if new locations weren't "featured" for two days. That's just too long to skew the environment that much imo. It also means that 3 days out of the week are on featured locations, or in other words almost literally half the time. I think it's a fun mechanic but they tend to overstay their welcome.

  • @felixap9286
    @felixap9286 Рік тому +1

    "I dont want to cure cancer! I want to turn people into dinosaurs!" -this is a strong mood... Love your energy but...

  • @bc6292
    @bc6292 Рік тому +1

    I enjoy the featured locations for changing "the meta" but I agree that it wears out its welcome. Maybe limit it to just 24hrs

  • @Russta
    @Russta Рік тому

    He popped up in my shop yesterday and I thought of you. Glad to see your white whale didn't elude you for too long.

  • @RafidW9
    @RafidW9 Рік тому +3

    Nothing is as satisfying as winning against Leader players.

    • @BatDad-qu4fo
      @BatDad-qu4fo Рік тому

      Nothing is as frustrating as losing to them too. It's beyond annoying to play out a large hand and the opponent just says "me too" and wins....

  • @AdvaitChatterji
    @AdvaitChatterji Рік тому

    Actually Galactus works on both Altar of Death and Death's Domain if an additional card is present and is played before the Galactus since it gets destroyed. But anywhere else it stops Galactus' trigger.

  • @marianibanescu8283
    @marianibanescu8283 Рік тому +1

    electro will be perfect for this deck! xD

  • @hangao8069
    @hangao8069 Рік тому +1

    I got Knull at 1200 today from a collector reserve!

  • @Mate_00
    @Mate_00 Рік тому

    18:30 I was really surprised by the tunnel vision on the right Sinister london... Wasn't splitting the power straight up better there?

  • @peude1970
    @peude1970 Рік тому +3

    i def agree what you said about the featured locations im so over altar of death already :D

  • @Karanthaneos
    @Karanthaneos Рік тому

    In regards of the featured location, if it was only for a day it would be fine, but it overextended its welcome, furthermore considering we have hot location's sunday. I also find it extremely annoying for the same reason that after a couple hours I just want to play another deck but it would be not only inefficient it just discourages playing anything but the most efficient expecting that location to pop on any game. I've faced more self sacrificing decks in the last few days than anything else, or decks that were forced to play something like Storm, Rhino, or Armor to straight up block that location.

  • @Zaris77
    @Zaris77 Рік тому

    21:12 It's so satisfying to see leader play copy nothing 🤣

  • @RAPSTARDB
    @RAPSTARDB Рік тому

    Congratulations on that card big man

  • @DrBucketlist2000
    @DrBucketlist2000 Рік тому

    For thanos, just check there number of cards in deck, if it’s +6 than normal
    Boy then it’s only then a THANOS deck

  • @drunkenhyena3121
    @drunkenhyena3121 Рік тому +1

    This deck looks like a lot of fun.

  • @bobthetem7892
    @bobthetem7892 Рік тому

    Echoing what others have said in the comments I feel that reducing the chance of the featured location appearing and reducing the time the featured location is featured would both be great changes

  • @itsbradtime
    @itsbradtime Рік тому +1

    Remember when Regis ran a Shuri deck pretending it was a Sauron deck.

  • @Baldwin-00
    @Baldwin-00 Рік тому

    i love the :
    oh it's ok i can play vision on death domain
    *1 seconde later, his vision get yondu's

  • @MobileTimebomb
    @MobileTimebomb Рік тому

    just got sauron in the shop, not gonna buy him because i’m saving for thanos but it’s super cool to see the new card when it comes out, glad it wasn’t shanna lol.

  • @Rorther
    @Rorther Рік тому +2

    Featured location should be a little bit less common, or only for 24h or so.

  • @JohnJohnson-vq7ze
    @JohnJohnson-vq7ze Рік тому

    13:14 Westview becoming Mirror Dimension is funny to see.

  • @ethanmontgomery6132
    @ethanmontgomery6132 Рік тому

    Think 24 hours is the sweet spot for featured locations. Would probably be too much technical work, but maybe have a different queue for people who want to play on the featured location, and another for those who want the normal location pool.
    Or maybe just run location destroyers.

  • @akoicarp
    @akoicarp Рік тому

    that pass at 21:00 was something beautiful

  • @Redacted_Writing
    @Redacted_Writing Рік тому

    8:25 “I don’t know why they’re different”
    Well, I’m here to explain although take it with a grain of salt because it’s more a hypothesis rather than fact. Maybe due to altar of death being a new location they made it with a different code than Death’s domain and not just copied and pasted it.
    But due to not doing that it, perhaps death’s domain reads a card that gets revealed there as “played” whereas death’s domain doesn’t. But, that’s just a small theory of mine so…idk

  • @danielhoshida9187
    @danielhoshida9187 Рік тому

    Hey, does Electro keeps his +1 mana ability after you used Sauron?

  • @StripedJacket
    @StripedJacket Рік тому

    That galactus happened to me before 😂 I was so mad. I had the win and it was turn 4. So I had plays after it as well and whiffed so hard after snapping 🤣

  • @johnlienhart2717
    @johnlienhart2717 Рік тому

    Maybe it's just my lower ranks, but I don't find featured locations are that much of an issue.
    I already tend to play one deck at a time for a couple days before swapping around, it just prompts me to change to a slightly altered one with cards that I don't put in otherwise.

  • @DroolingNoob115
    @DroolingNoob115 Рік тому

    I partially disagree with you on the locations. They can be a hit or miss but this particular location has been the most fun I have had in the game since launch. I think it all comes down to play style and deck preference. Right now my favorite decks are Knull based and have been for the past few weeks so this elevates that experience for me. However it does suck for other decks. There have been many locations I don't enjoy but honestly it's not that bad.

  • @UnknownTrev
    @UnknownTrev Рік тому

    While watching this video, I just got Knull from a Collectors Reserve, I haven’t even finished Pool 3. I’m currently Collection Level 1,366

  • @brad___5270
    @brad___5270 Рік тому

    Well thank God idecided to take a break from the game. I'll wait out altar of death, destroy decks are tiring

  • @rccharger21
    @rccharger21 Рік тому

    This looks like my kind of deck! I still need Red Skull and Sauron though…

  • @firmannofhananda8719
    @firmannofhananda8719 Рік тому

    replacement for Shuri? haven't obtained her yet.

  • @Justkidding277
    @Justkidding277 Рік тому

    Sauron: He could cure cancer, but instead he makes Dinos
    P.s. a thought occured to me again when I was watching these games.. Cerebro Prime (7-5-3); Maximus, Ebony Maw, Vision, Wolfsbane, Gamora are all 7, and Taskmaster could very often be, too, 🤔 I would almost think about Silver Surfer, Mister Negative, and run the new buffed Nakia, to make your Doctor Doom 7, and if you got real lucky, a 7 power Blue Marvel. Even if not, he works well at each of the 7-5-3 breakpoints, bringing up Nakia, too. Maybe Magik and Onslaught?? 🧐

  • @ncsjcca2
    @ncsjcca2 Рік тому +2

    Most of what I got from this video is that Shuri is absolutely broken.

  • @simpcat4415
    @simpcat4415 Рік тому +1

    You know your video about a zero deck from before the game was globally out was what got me hyped for the game. I started at launch, have pretty much played everyday, bought each season pass, and bought the sunspot bundle and I can still can’t make the deck. And now, right when I’m so close to it, they release Sauron, which I have no chance of getting for 3-4 months.

    • @d.b.scoville
      @d.b.scoville Рік тому +1

      How have you not been able to build a deck that you saw pre launch? If it was a pre launch deck then it couldn’t of had any pool 4/5 cars that were necessary and it’s been long enough that every pool 3 card would have cycled through your shop so you would have been a able to snag all the ones you needed.

    • @simpcat4415
      @simpcat4415 Рік тому

      @@d.b.scoville because I have 11 series 3 cards I haven’t gotten and two of them are red skull and zero. I spent my tokens on thanos, which ended up being a mistake. Had I saved my tokens however, then I’d be on the other side of the fence where I wouldn’t be able to try thanos for 3-4 months. My point is that it takes a comically long amount of time to get cards so I’m not able to try all the deck ideas I have.

  • @MutantThallid
    @MutantThallid Рік тому +1

    There's two types of hot locations to me. The ones that are cool without being too warping like Machineworld and the ones that completely warp the game around them like Altar of Death where its actively detrimental not to play one of the two decks that benefit most from it.

  • @corpaxhunter
    @corpaxhunter Рік тому

    Cant wait to play him after how many months.

  • @Petter1900
    @Petter1900 Рік тому

    I enjoy Featured Locations for the most part, but this one is just sooo impactful you have to play Altar meta or a counter to it to really succeed in it. I had fun playing Deadpool for once, but I also agree it should pass on.
    Maybe if it was just 24 hours, and not 48 hours. Maybe just better when new locations aren't super impactful

    • @ConradSly
      @ConradSly Рік тому

      Ya 24 hour increased spawn rate before it gets added to the rotation sounds reasonable

  • @gympy88
    @gympy88 Рік тому

    Twice when you did the She Hulk/Taskmaster play at the end, you chose to play the She Hulk in a lane that reduced her power, which meant that TM would copy the lower power. Is there a reason why you chose to do it like that instead of playing She Hulk in the lane that doesn't alter her power and copying that?

    • @blitzpie7688
      @blitzpie7688 Рік тому +1

      I can't vouch for the first time but the second time Cosmo was in the minus power location. If he played Taskmaster in the Cosmo location Cosmo would have prevented Taskmaster's on reveal affect leaving Regis with a 0 power Taskmaster so he had to play She-Hulk there instead

  • @f3artheteemo4
    @f3artheteemo4 Рік тому

    Regis what do you think Sauron with Electro

    • @RegisKillbin
      @RegisKillbin  Рік тому +1

      Sauron removes the On Reveal as well.

  • @philipptheege5401
    @philipptheege5401 Рік тому

    isnt beeig able to play ebony maw after turn 3 a bug, since this is not part of his ongoing effect?

    • @RegisKillbin
      @RegisKillbin  Рік тому

      It does not need to be part of his Ongoing effect. Sauron removes the abilities of Ongoing cards, he does not remove Ongoing abilities.

  • @arthurroth3147
    @arthurroth3147 Рік тому

    What’s up with vision and she-hulk? And why no enchantress?

    • @RegisKillbin
      @RegisKillbin  Рік тому +3

      Vision and She-Hulk are good. Enchantress is not as good.
      There is no time to play a 4-cost with minimal upside, especially as a post-hoc effect when you need to be dumping power on turn 5 and 6. Sauron also already solves the same problems. If you had a Zabu list, Enchantress could perhaps be a consideration, but Zabu and Sauron clash in curve and effect.
      Vision's power flexibility after Shuri is an A+ play. She-Hulk lets you skip turn 5 for favorable priority into turn 6 to play her and a 5-cost card together.

    • @arthurroth3147
      @arthurroth3147 Рік тому

      Huh, that’s actually really neat, and proof I have much more to learn about deckbuilding in snap!
      (Even if I’m still working towards series 4 and only at 3. Or wherever 1600 is in terms of pool)

  • @wisnusyah6608
    @wisnusyah6608 Рік тому

    On the second game why your red skull didn't get destroyed is because you didn't play the card on the death domain. Also death domain and altar of death works the same except altar of death give +2 energy next turn (which is so much) hope they nerf the location soon enough

  • @xsipolinx
    @xsipolinx Рік тому

    good video, Ty!

  • @JJohnson616
    @JJohnson616 Рік тому

    So Sauron does remove all abilities on ongoing cards, not just the ongoing portion? I would have thought you still couldn't play Maw late

    • @RegisKillbin
      @RegisKillbin  Рік тому +2

      All abilities. That's why Electro is no good.

  • @memeboi7513
    @memeboi7513 Рік тому

    They should make featured locations only for the weekends

  • @54regas
    @54regas Рік тому

    Normally featured locations are not that bad. Altar tho makes decks that can abuse it too much lead. Usually you can ignore the featured location if you want to play normally, but this week i feel like I play "destroy/ramp" or I'm losing 40% of games.

  • @booksgottattoos
    @booksgottattoos Рік тому

    How about Sauron with electro since the on reveal gives max energy but the ongoing limits you to one card

    • @blitzpie7688
      @blitzpie7688 Рік тому

      That won't work because Sauron silences all affects on Ongoing cards. That is why Regis can play Ebony Maw after Turn 3 even though that affect is not part of Ebony Maw's Ongoing ability. It was a good idea though

  • @mr_thug_penguin
    @mr_thug_penguin Рік тому

    wtf I just got a Regis ad for glasses on one of ur videos

  • @shawn9210
    @shawn9210 Рік тому

    I like Featured Domains and I think Altar of Death is neat. Though, as context, I really only switched out one card from my Sentry deck (added Electro) so I wasn't really forced to switch decks. Also I'm in the 50's which isn't not competitive but also isn't high enough that you're only seeing the meta decks. I think that changes my experiences a bit.
    Also, as people mentioned, Altar and Death's Domain work the same other than Altar giving energy. Both kill everything that is played but doesn't destroy anything that is moved/added. I think that opponent just got confused and thought it was the location that destroys everything that moves there.

  • @DemyrNox
    @DemyrNox Рік тому

    I feel like featured and hot locations are great but last too long. They should like, gradually make them happen less and less over the course of their featuring, or just make it so that once you see it three times you have the option to deactivate it and just be in a separate matchmaking pool in which you don't have the featured location

  • @RyanBounedara
    @RyanBounedara Рік тому

    The Dark Lord Dinosauron

  • @tarvmrat
    @tarvmrat Рік тому

    Subscribing bc i love your laugh

  • @asefnirumand2355
    @asefnirumand2355 Рік тому

    Regis man you need to tell ban the brood aka 4 mana 7/7 to let us get 50 tokens every day that is ganna help the game a lot still a lot of work but so much batter

  • @superzee247
    @superzee247 Рік тому +1

    lore anti synergy on devil dino

  • @ertemesiner
    @ertemesiner Рік тому

    having shuri, she-hulk, sauron etc... most people with leader are just trying to counter these unreacable for them cards :(

  • @blank4142
    @blank4142 Рік тому

    I have to disagree with you saying Sauron is better than Sentry. I think Sentry is an amazing card when properly utilized from one of your previous Marvel Snap videos.

  • @egbert5871
    @egbert5871 Рік тому

    why does the layout look deferent them mine, also why not both cure cancer and be a dino

  • @jasonlovejoy7583
    @jasonlovejoy7583 Рік тому

    I would still put armro in this deck to use before u play souron

  • @BqreXD
    @BqreXD Рік тому

    the galactus dude literally bought galactus, paid for a variant of him, created a whole deck surrounding him, and yet he does not know that his on reveal doesn't work when there are any cards at that location at all (both revealed and unrevealed)

  • @StripedJacket
    @StripedJacket Рік тому

    Electro seems like a good add in this deck huh

    • @RegisKillbin
      @RegisKillbin  Рік тому +1

      Sauron removes his On Reveal text too, much like it removes Ebony Maw's play limitation text. It removes all abilities from Ongoing cards, not just Ongoing abilities.

    • @danielhoshida9187
      @danielhoshida9187 Рік тому

      @@RegisKillbin Hey man, thanks for answering this. Did you test this interaction?
      Because people on a Facebook group I'm in keep saying that Sauron works with Electro because he keeps his +1 mana ability.

    • @StripedJacket
      @StripedJacket Рік тому

      @@RegisKillbin very interesting interaction. Thanks

  • @drweshnaw3365
    @drweshnaw3365 Рік тому

    Would sauron work with patriot?

    • @murlocaggrob2192
      @murlocaggrob2192 Рік тому

      Yes, but it's difficult because Patriot himself is ongoing. You have to have Patriot on the board already, otherwise he becomes a dead card.

  • @TempestInMe
    @TempestInMe Рік тому

    The leader fail lmao

  • @preppymattprada
    @preppymattprada Рік тому

    What about professor X?

  • @sabb_456
    @sabb_456 Рік тому

    but have you heard of sauron's younger brother sau'kon?

  • @doctor-goggles
    @doctor-goggles Рік тому

    Just checking in to say that featured/hot locations are the absolute worst *gameplay* feature of any game I regularly play, and it is not close. Hey Mr Brode, why did you make a game where my decks are only useable 4 out of the 7 days of the week?

  • @lukestokes4911
    @lukestokes4911 Рік тому

    What does she hulk do in this deck?

  • @alainduarte7647
    @alainduarte7647 Рік тому

    Why not Luke Cage?

  • @epicspooder
    @epicspooder Рік тому

    Man I wanna be a dinosaur

  • @bluepaintedhawk2368
    @bluepaintedhawk2368 Рік тому

    A big reason for the variety are the locations. They bring so much fun and surprises to the game. Featured locations suck because they deny the surprise factor

  • @jasonlovejoy7583
    @jasonlovejoy7583 Рік тому

    Lizard is not a dino sauron is not a dino ether he was turned into one in the savage lands by magneto

  • @מיכאלרחמילביץ-ד2ק

    I think you could have skipped turn 5 around 18:00 to play around shang chi

  • @SashaINAFT
    @SashaINAFT Рік тому

    Wait what about electro

  • @Floki5000X
    @Floki5000X Рік тому

    Love it

  • @zeli979
    @zeli979 Рік тому

    As long as armor is on board before Sauron it's still viable in this deck isn't it ?

  • @3281-c4f
    @3281-c4f Рік тому

    My solution would be to make hot locations and new cards release on different days. Like releasing cards Thursday once the hot location is over.

  • @EarnestEgregore
    @EarnestEgregore Рік тому

    Aero tilts me way more than Leader lol... honestly most of the jank I play is resistant to leader... but Aero... it's like well yea if I was a complete idiot and played my card there, then yes, I would lose, that's why I didn't want to play it there!!!! lol so annoying

  • @ConcerninglyWiseAlligator
    @ConcerninglyWiseAlligator Рік тому

    OK, but why does he want to turn people into dinosaurs?

  • @williammclean6594
    @williammclean6594 Рік тому

    I still think the other version with Cosmo and armour is better because literally everybody is playing shang chi

  • @WinzardRX
    @WinzardRX Рік тому +1

    I'm shocked at the game at 32:27 , the opponent had a guaranteed win in the last turn via destroyer right, followed by warpath left. Destroyer would have destroyed all cards in the middle location, giving warpath its ongoing buff. Just goes to show you never know what will happen in marvel snap....

  • @khanhnguyen-tt3ff
    @khanhnguyen-tt3ff Рік тому

    I'm Surprise you didt put patriot

    • @firmannofhananda8719
      @firmannofhananda8719 Рік тому

      Patriot itself is an Ongoing. If Patriot is still in the deck while Sauron has already been played first, then Patriot will be very useless.

  • @delasvegas9644
    @delasvegas9644 Рік тому

    I think venom could be decent as an additional "silence" effect

  • @thesean161
    @thesean161 Рік тому

    40% of the time. You get it all the time.

  • @brandonpiech3
    @brandonpiech3 Рік тому

    Sauroffgoing

  • @B.one_fu
    @B.one_fu Рік тому

    12:22 He is a Taiwan UA-camr

  • @iaanhenrr5883
    @iaanhenrr5883 Рік тому

    Hot take, we NEED a competitive mode in this game that eliminates the featured location, we would of course still have a casual game mode with the featured locations but goddamn I'm so tired of essentially being forced into certain deck types that I don't have the best cards for when Rickety Fucking Bridge is the hot location. If your game has a mechanic that literally just makes me Not want to play at all then you Have something wrong with your game.

  • @blessall2370
    @blessall2370 Рік тому

    Red skull should be a 6 cost card instead of 5 cost due to it high 15 power in my opinion.