The one that is similar to the 2011 Muppets movie and Gonzo is the new Batman and James Bond. I believe it’s The Next Muppet Movie for what’s it’s called correct me if I am wrong.
I know Muppets Wizard of Oz is complete garbage, but the Quentin Tarantino cameo scene in that movie seems like a direct reference to the kind of humor TCMMEM was attempting in it's script. Over the top 4th wall breaking chaos lol.
Maybe I'm just a tasteless heathen, but the idea of a Muppet movie, hell, any movie, where the effects and budget getting lowered is an actual element, so things around them look more and more cheap sounds amazing.
There definitely is no Muppet movie canon. The Muppet movies are as true to the lives of the characters as any given Tom Hanks movie is to his life. The Muppets are actors, performers. They’re just telling us fun stories.
@@joebove4 But wouldn't that mean that any movie where they are actors are the Canon? And other ones are canon in that they are the movies they have made?
Muppets 2011, my first Muppet movie, tricked me into thinking the Muppets had an extended, emotionally-driven cinematic universe. I was so confused when I actually watched the other ones 😂
I'm one of the few people who LOVED Muppets from Space when it was new. I can remember being in the cafeteria at school, trying to convince anyone who would listen to give it a chance. To this day, I insist it was ahead of it's time! :)
One possible reason for all the ups and downs is that while the Muppets have a well-defined identity, you can do so many things with them that picking the right one can be tricky.
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There's not enough Muppet history videos on UA-cam. I know defunctland has a popular series, but there are so many interesting little stories involving Jim, Frank Oz, and the other original muppeteers that you could honestly have a whole channel documenting ice berg type Muppet facts. This was a great video, glad to see a genuine fan take a deep dive into things like this. There have been so many interesting canceled projects from the JH Company over the years. RIP Jim Henson.
I never thought that so many Muppet movies were scrapped over the years. A lot of which have really great concepts that I would've loved to see haven't they got canned
I really, really, really wished that The Cheapest Muppet Movie Ever Made actually got made. Out of all of these, that one sounds like it could be the funniest and most creative. I could easily see it directed by Michel Gondry.
I am convinced that "The Next Muppet Movie/When Muppets Attack" is the greatest Muppet movie never made. I know the bit with Sesame Street at the end was meant to be a joke, but now I'm just thinking "Man, that cliffhanger would be the perfect way to kickstart a Muppet/Henson cinematic universe" (imagine at the end of the Sesame movie suddenly Mick heads over to Fraggle Rock).
The fact Muppets Take Manhattan and Muppets From Space (The ones I grew up with) are still unavailable on Disney + is still a big bummer tbh. Great editing btw! -Your 215th sub
That's why I love DVDs -- you can buy a movie, and keep it, and it doesn't suddenly disappear after a limited time. Better still, you only have to pay for it ONCE, instead of paying a subscription fee every month on the off-chance you MIGHT watch it again. 😉
I unironically think the Muppet version of Treasure Island is amazingly true to the source material and also has the best Long John Silver ever;Tim Curry
Also, when I was growing up I loved seeing Alice Cooper do Welcome to my Nightmare and Roger Moore do a James Bond parody 😀 on the Muppet Show. They had a really well set designed Alice in Wonderland segment with Brooke Sheilds as Alice....The Muppet show was kids entertainment but with very sophisticated and adult writing..
@@daniellewillis2767 You don't understand what I just said. The final number at the end of that episode was them singing "We're Off to See the Wizard" from "The Wizard of Oz". That episode of The Muppet Show is not on Disney+ because of that particular song which is owned by MGM. Now do you get it? If not, look up the clip where they did the tea party scene from the story of "Alice in Wonderland".
I think one of Disney's mistakes is always trying to do sonething over the top with them. Yes, they're chaotic a lot of the time, but there's a lot of quieter moments too that round them out, like when Kermit talks to himself in the desert or when everyone temporarily splits up in Muppets Take Manhattan. I want more of those kinds of Muppet moments and unfortunately I dont think Disney is capable of any kind of sincerity anymore. What makes The Muppets themselves, imo, is that they're essentially a community theater troope who stays together because they like to put on shows despite the ups and downs. Except for Miss Piggy, they're fairly humble characters, and Disney doesn't get it.
when kermit met piggy is the greatest loss of all 💔 great job on this video !! i loved it and it was such amazing quality !!! please do more muppet videos !!
The Cheapest Muppet Movie and The Next Muppet Movie would've been extremely phenomenal. And yes, I'd take them over the 2011 movie. Sure, they wouldn't be as emotional as that film was but it definitely would've been funnier and more in the lines of the first three movies. Anyways, I just discovered your channel and was surprised there's not that much. I hope you make more stuff like these because this was phenomenally well made and a lot of great research. I wish you the best luck for what's to come, and keep up the good work.
I just hope we get another big muppets series or movie that will spawn several other great muppet projects. The muppets have been there for me through thick and thin. I remember putting on the original muppet series DVD and being transported to a world of laughs and mayhem that I was never tired of seeing them. I just want to relive that magic and the 2011 and 2014 ones were the closest I’ve seen. There was a flicker of hope with the abc one as well but we know where that went. Anyways great video.
I agree wholeheartedly. Adam F. Goldberg, a co-creator of The Muppets Mayhem, has been outspoken with hopes that this series will spawn a Muppet cinematic universe next, with future projects based on different characters. I really like the heart that he’s bringing to the franchise. One can hope!
...I had no idea this was your first video. It honestly comes off like it was made by someone who has a lot more experience and been around a lot longer. Good job.
Considering how many monsters, demons, ghosts, and goblins the Muppets have shown throughout the years, Im surprised they haven't done more Halloween stuff. The Muppets Haunted Mansion worked rather well, and I think they could do more with the genre.
I don't know if it would have worked with the Muppets, but the score of Rodgers & Hammerstein's *Pipe Dream* is actually quite wonderful. A more obvious Broadway musical to adapt as a vehicle for the Muppets, though, would be *Carnival,* in which puppet characters are central to the plot.
The Jim Henson Company was planning a bunch of Muppet movies and specials during the early 2000s around the show’s silver anniversary, but they all got cancelled due to the failure of Muppets From Space and Elmo in Grouchland.
Also didn’t help that they were bought by a German company in 2000, then five seconds later, that company went near bankrupt, put Henson up for sale for almost two years (within that time 9/11 and the Wars on Terror occurred), before finally selling it back to the Hensons, who in turn sold the Muppets to Disney. Tumultuous four years in Muppet history.
I’m gonna have to rewatch the muppets wizard of oz because the sentiment seems to be really negative but I LOVED it as a kid- great video, shocked it’s your first! Will continue to watch :)
As a recent Muppet fan to me the Muppets will always be one of those timeless series that people of all ages can enjoy I still think they do a all with Kermit and friends so whatever plans they have for them i’m looking forward to it.
I think I really would have enjoyed the Disney + series that never happened. I hope it does come back and get made, but I’m currently loving Muppets Mayhem, and listening to the record album a lot. (Several of the songs slap)
The album is honestly pretty dang fantastic from beginning to end. I especially love that the Disney thing they parodied in the series itself was completely averted. They make no effort to modernize the band, to make them cover popular current tunes, or saddle them with a 21st century sound. Everybody involved really understands what makes these characters and the band special, and I really appreciate that.
It would be great if Disney released more of their soundtracks on CD. I don't own a record player, and for some reason, I can't get Amazon Prime or streaming services to work on my computer.
Every long-running big name franchise is likely to have a number of cancelled and unmade projects, and The Muppets is no exception. If anything, the one movie I want to see most here is "The Cheapest Muppet Movie Ever Made", because it sounds extremely ambitious (from an in-universe perspective), and would also probably be the most insane Muppet movie ever made.
Great video!! I was surprised when I went looking and didn't find too many solid Muppets docu-videos on youtube, and almost no coverage of post-Henson projects. Thanks for making this! Hoping to see more from the channel :)
Personally, I'm kind of bummed that they didn't continue on the adaptations of literary classics that they had with Christmas Carol and Treasure Island. Those movies were my childhood introduction to both stories and Treasure Island was my introduction to The Muppets to boot. To this day, when I think of the character Long John Silver, I automatically picture Tim Curry's version of the character.
That moment when you realize that there have been *more* canceled Muppet projects than there have been completed muppet projects - and that Henson sold to Disney to *avoid* constantly having to shelve projects - *only for Disney to end up shelving even more* xD
I loved how much information was in this video, and the amount of video content that matches the movies (that never happened) is just amazing. Thank you for assembling this!
wow this is ! wow !! this video deserves so much love ! it is so well made and about the best franchise ever… the muppets ! please continue making these awesome videos
Oh hey, that’s my muppet show theme song karaoke track in your intro! I must have recorded that over a decade ago, I’m glad you liked it! I casually clicked on this video, so you’d imagine my shock when I heard it and thought, “I know that specific recording!” 😂 Let me know if you ever need more music!
Muppet Monster Adventure was one of my absolute favourite PS1 games growing up. Knowing that it was originally going to be a different form of media makes it all the more intruiging.
I would love to see the cheapest muppet movie ever made, that sounds hilarious!! Hopefully Disney figures out what to do with the muppets and actually hire some good human actors for the next movie
imo, disney should've combined their "live action" remakes from the 2010s with the muppets. at least with the muppet projects, they get actors who can actually sing
That would be fun, i’d love to see the muppets do renditions of different Disney movies like what they did with Treasure Island (even though that wasn’t made by Disney, I think).
I adore the Muppets, I grew up watching the show, then the movies and all the spin-offs, I think that Jim Henson was a genius as were all the cast and crew that made the Muppets what they are (Not so much some of the ones in the last handful of years, though The Muppets and Muppets Most Wanted were fun). Gonzo has been one of my favorites since the beginning, so when Muppets from Space came out, I drank it up! I love that movie so much, I relate to it and to Gonzo, never really feeling quite a part of life, always being the outsider, being the weird one in both family and friend circles. So that movie touched me in a really deep way, and I do tear up still even after watching and rewatching it for years. It will always hold a very special place in my heart.
For that Muppet Avengers crossover, I'm thinking Kermit would fit better for Captain America, and Animal would be Hulk. I would also love to see the Swedish Chef as Thor, Gonzo as Iron Man, Scooter as Hawkeye, Fozzie as Nick Fury, Janice as Black Widow, Miss Piggy as Captain Marvel, Bunson as Vision, and Rizzo as Ant-Man, and I'm thinking that the title would either be called “The Muppet Avengers” or “A MARVELous Muppets Adventure to Save the World.” As for the storyline, I’m thinking that after a successive show, the Muppets discover Beaker has been kidnapped by a mysterious supervillain who is trying to destroy their theatre, and that they discover a music box that turns them into the Avengers; Kermit becomes Captain America by wielding a Vibranium shield, Gonzo gets equipped with an Iron Man suit, the Swedish Chef is able to wield Thor's hammer, and Fozzie becomes the new director of SHIELD, and they all unexpectedly join forces with the Avengers. It is up to the two heroic teams to save Beaker from this mysterious villain before their theatre gets destroyed.
Y’know, it’s funny. I’ve actually uploaded my own video on Cancelled Muppets projects a few weeks after yours, and I didn’t even find out until after I uploaded it. Crazy coincidence, right?
This is a great first video. You've already set the algorithm on fire. It's not often I get recommended someone's very first video. Either you cheated the system, and completely manipulated the AI, or you got very, very lucky. But if you keep it up with this level of quality video (hopefully about more than just the Muppets), than you'll become bigger than Mr beast in no time, and you'll completely forget about all the little people who got you there.
No AI here, I'm just as surprised as you are. I have been creating content for many years on other channels, but this is my first video essay and I made it out of pure passion. Maybe there is still hope in this mad, algorithm-driven world! Thanks for the comment and thanks for being here.
Great first video! It’s like you’ve been doing this for years. I wanted to see what your other videos were and I was surprised to see that there weren’t anymore!
It’s so funny that Muppets In Space is something that was actually written cuz I was thinking about trying to write it as a sequel to Muppets From Space😂
I would have loved to see the Cheapest Muppet Movie Ever Made. That title alone makes it sound like a good time. I wouldn’t be surprised if Muppets in Space was picked back up under a different name, since Disney owns Star Wars and has been known to self-parody in the Plus era. … also the muppets interacting with the teletubbies as a scene in a movie sounds oddly adorable and I’m curious as to what the script could have been between them. I see a lot of good potential for good scenes and jokes there.
I had no idea this was your first video until I read the pinned comment! It’s so professional, but not soulless. I adored it, and will for sure tune into other Muppets-related videos!
I’d love to see an awesome Muppets movie musical comedy from Disney and Jim Henson productions as part of a collaboration with original music by Marc Shaiman that’ll be worthy of some Academy Awards!
1. The Cheapest Muppet Movie ever made 2. Muppet Robin Hood 3. Muppet Camelot 4. Kermit Prince of Denmark 5. Muppet Time Machine 6. The Muppet Leave Hollywood 7. When Kermit meet Piggy 8. The next Muppet Movie 9. The Muppets Haunted Hotel 10. The Muppets Haunted House 11. Muppets in Space 12. Muppets 1776 13. The Muppets Save the World 14. Mission: Improable 15. Animal Origin Story 16. Muppets Las Vegas Adventure That's shame that Disney couldn't release these movies. I wish the Muppets can make return. 🙏😇
The Muppets franchise was a lot better prior to the Disney buyout when Sony was distributing most of the films. It was clear that Jim Henson was very anxious about the Disney negotiations and the fact that Jeffery Katzenburg and Michael Eisner were practically breathing in his ears about a potential buyout. Frank Oz even thinks that the stress over the Disney buyout is what killed Jim. When you consider Jim’s stress that came with this Disney buyout, I believe that sticking to Sony Pictures as the Muppet’s primary distributor would have been a much better decision. The relationship between the two entities started with Muppets take Manhattan, and it was clearly working. But no.
That’s an interesting point. I would argue that a lot of their longevity is owed to Disney, however you feel about the recent projects. I think Kermit’s Swamp Years and A Very Merry Muppet Christmas Movie (and that naked Animal merch) show where the direction of the Muppets was headed with Sony. Perhaps without the massive success of their 2011 theatrical return, their relevancy would be a bit more boiled down to a thing of the past.
Cripes, every time I hear about Disney buying out something I love, I get nervous. The very worst instance I ever heard of was when Walt himself and his goons kept pestering the author P. L. Travers for the rights to a Mary Poppins movie, and she kept turning them down because she was afraid they'd mess it up. After YEARS of badgering, she finally gave in, they made a "Mary Poppins" movie, she hated it, and spent the rest of her life denouncing Walt and the Disney Corporation for ruining her character . . . . . . But that's not the worst part. The worst part is, the Disney Corp. waited until after she died -- so she couldn't defend herself or set the record straight, natch -- to make a smear film called "Saving Mr. Banks," in which Kindly Old Uncle Walt (who loves absolutely everyone), calmly, gently, and caringly talks the shrill, stubborn, emotionaly damaged Travers into making the Mary Poppins movie, purely so he could bring joy to the children of the world. 🤮🤮🤮 Typical Hollywood history-rewriting.
I love and respect Frank Oz, but blaming “the stress of the Disney deal” for Jim’s death is dubious. Jim Henson was a grown man. He wanted to sell the company to Disney. Disney, or whatever “stress” came with a $150 million business deal, did not kill Jim Henson. An untreated bacterial infection that ravaged his body in a matter of days is what killed him. As for Sony, the Muppets Take Manhattan came out in ‘84 (before TriStar was even owned by Sony). Sony and Henson formed Jim Henson Pictures in the mid-90s. Three pictures came out of that-Buddy, MFS, and Grouchland-they all BOMBED. Though I guess Sony had some success distributing Henson stuff on video during that same period. In ‘03, when Henson was up for sale by EMTV, Sony was reportedly bankrolling a bid for Henson by Classic Media (now DreamWorks Classics) and Sesame Workshop, but that was thwarted when the Hensons stepped in.
@@MuppetCore I don't know where you're coming with this "grown man" nonsense, like grown men shouldn't ever have emotions when their entire life's legacy is being aggressively bought out from under them by a rapacious company that screws up every property it buys from the original creators. Please don't ever volunteer for a self-harm prevention hotline.
In December of 2020, I had the pleasure of speaking with Brian Lynch in regards to The Next Muppet Movie's script over on Twitter. One of the few details he divulged to me was that the audition scenes in which Kermit found the more obscure Muppets was to involve "Muppets that hadn't been seen or heard from in decades." I had questioned those cameos meant going all the way back to the days of the vintage Jim Henson commercials of the 1960s or even Sam & Friends-- but Lynch did confirm that the cameos weren't going to consist of Muppets from that far back. Aside from that, he didn't reveal much else. I personally think they should've gone with this movie in 1998-99 instead of Muppets From Space.
I would still love to see "The Cheapest Muppet Movie" get made someday - maybe make it a TV special instead, so you have an additional joke with Gonzo being warned that they need to cut out a few sequences to fit the timeslot and he cuts the film in really weird places so the story ends up making even less sense! Having a film or special starring the less famous Muppets and one with superheroes played by Henson puppets (not necessarily the Muppets) would be fun too.
Personally, I feel they peaked in the 90s. They should have continued the goldmine of adapting classic books into movies, rather than shoehorning themselves into reality TV or The Office-esque shows.
Really great work, I loved everything about this video! Also, The holy trinity you mentioned in the beginning are legit cinematic masterpieces. All three of those films hold up, and I still watch them often.
as someone who actually loves the 2011 movie, it's very interesting to see how the bones of the plot were kind of all gathered from cancelled or never utilized movies,,, i had man or muppet as my ringtone for like. a year,, but i will admit that some of those other movies seemed really interesting
I wanna see these Muppet movies created for Disney+! - Muppet Fairytale Classics (similar to Muppet Classic Theater, but as movie created exclusively for Disney+) - The Muppets Arabian Nights (a Muppets version of the Arabian Nights stories) - Muppet Robin Hood - Muppets in Camelot
I'm a Gen X who grew up when Jim Henson was still alive. I'm always fascinated that so many Millennials and Gen Z's are Muppet fans, when to me, it's felt like the franchise has been treading water, or just plain drowning, ever since Jim's death. Watching this video drove the point home further for me, as I noticed *A Muppets Christmas Carol* and *The Muppets* (2011) were the only financial successes. The IP has survived a long time on nostalgia, only today it's getting by on nostalgia for works that were considered failures in their time.
The Muppet Show was produced in England because no one in the US wanted a show like that! Also, there was SNL's Land of Gorch which was supposed to be "Muppet for adults". I think the Cheapest Muppet Movie Ever could work, if you took out the Muppets. They used to show the videos of Kokomo and Wipe Out from that Beach Party album on Nickelodeon all the time along with "She Drives Me Crazy"
awesome video it was so interesting to learn all about the failed projects this was such a loving tribute to the muppets and a spark of hope for what else they can do
Thanks for watching my first video! Which Muppets project are you saddest (or gladdest) didn't happen?
Great video!!!
The one that is similar to the 2011 Muppets movie and Gonzo is the new Batman and James Bond. I believe it’s The Next Muppet Movie for what’s it’s called correct me if I am wrong.
I really liked The Cheapest Muppet Movie Ever Made.
@@IceCreamMiniMovies I did too I loved the concept.
It Would be Hilarious if they make “The Cheapest Muppet Movie Ever Made”. 😂
I'm still sad that The Cheapest Muppet Movie Ever Made never happened, that whole idea sounds absolutely hilarious
It’s come close before, never say never!
Yea that one seemed the most interesting and fun. Would love to see it made eventually.
I know Muppets Wizard of Oz is complete garbage, but the Quentin Tarantino cameo scene in that movie seems like a direct reference to the kind of humor TCMMEM was attempting in it's script. Over the top 4th wall breaking chaos lol.
It kind of reminds me of the play that goes wrong!
I remember something like it happening in the Deadpool video game.
Maybe I'm just a tasteless heathen, but the idea of a Muppet movie, hell, any movie, where the effects and budget getting lowered is an actual element, so things around them look more and more cheap sounds amazing.
Especially since that seems to be Disney’s tactic for Muppets content anyways! What? Who said that…
Exactly! That's the perfect kind of subversive, experimental, fourth-wall-breaking satirical malarkey they've been so good at since the beginning!
You're not tasteless if other people agree with you
That's exactly the kind of meta comedy that helps make the Muppets so great
@@AtlasBlizzard I agree with that, we need a muppet movie like that
The Cheapest Muppet Movie Ever Made sounds like the coolest idea ever. I really hope it somehow gets made.
I started to realize that every Muppet movie isn't cannon because in almost every movie, they reveal that the last movie was a play.
There definitely is no Muppet movie canon. The Muppet movies are as true to the lives of the characters as any given Tom Hanks movie is to his life. The Muppets are actors, performers. They’re just telling us fun stories.
One thing I’ve always loved about The Muppet movies is how they each stand on their own.
@@joebove4
But wouldn't that mean that any movie where they are actors are the Canon? And other ones are canon in that they are the movies they have made?
Muppets 2011, my first Muppet movie, tricked me into thinking the Muppets had an extended, emotionally-driven cinematic universe. I was so confused when I actually watched the other ones 😂
Well, I think the first movie was how they met. So that's canon, along with both of Disney's movies
I'm one of the few people who LOVED Muppets from Space when it was new. I can remember being in the cafeteria at school, trying to convince anyone who would listen to give it a chance. To this day, I insist it was ahead of it's time! :)
Same, my cousin and I love it!
One possible reason for all the ups and downs is that while the Muppets have a well-defined identity, you can do so many things with them that picking the right one can be tricky.
Very good point.
Why did I watch this. I'm SO MAD we didn't get some of these. Fantastic content, tho. Thank you.
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There's not enough Muppet history videos on UA-cam. I know defunctland has a popular series, but there are so many interesting little stories involving Jim, Frank Oz, and the other original muppeteers that you could honestly have a whole channel documenting ice berg type Muppet facts.
This was a great video, glad to see a genuine fan take a deep dive into things like this. There have been so many interesting canceled projects from the JH Company over the years.
RIP Jim Henson.
Agreed! This channel will take a dive into lots of entertainment history, but I’m already scoping out future Muppets videos. Stay tuned!
@@retroruckusI can’t wait
@@retroruckus I reply back to you a few days ago, but you didn't reply back to me.
You what doesn't have many videos....The Smurfs!
@@haileyshannon7548 I hope the next video is about Jim Henson’s Animal Jam. 😇😇😇😇😇😇😇😇😇
This was my most watched Muppet movie when I was a kid. To this day I always associate "Celebration" and "Brick House" with the Muppets.
You mean I’m NOT the only one who always associates Celebration with The Muppets???
@@ajzeg01 I can see Gonzo cutting the grass everytime
I never thought that so many Muppet movies were scrapped over the years. A lot of which have really great concepts that I would've loved to see haven't they got canned
I also would’ve love to have seen a lot of these projects were they not scrapped.
I could see a lot of them working now more than before
I really, really, really wished that The Cheapest Muppet Movie Ever Made actually got made. Out of all of these, that one sounds like it could be the funniest and most creative. I could easily see it directed by Michel Gondry.
I am convinced that "The Next Muppet Movie/When Muppets Attack" is the greatest Muppet movie never made. I know the bit with Sesame Street at the end was meant to be a joke, but now I'm just thinking "Man, that cliffhanger would be the perfect way to kickstart a Muppet/Henson cinematic universe" (imagine at the end of the Sesame movie suddenly Mick heads over to Fraggle Rock).
The fact Muppets Take Manhattan and Muppets From Space (The ones I grew up with) are still unavailable on Disney + is still a big bummer tbh.
Great editing btw!
-Your 215th sub
Disney’s so busy trying to acquire Spider-Man from Sony that they’ve forgotten what they REALLY want from them - those two movies!
That's why I love DVDs -- you can buy a movie, and keep it, and it doesn't suddenly disappear after a limited time. Better still, you only have to pay for it ONCE, instead of paying a subscription fee every month on the off-chance you MIGHT watch it again. 😉
Keep circulating the tapes
I'm fine with that. I love Manhattan because it remind me of my Grandma reading the book to me. But I've seen it so many times. I don't like Space.
Yeah I’m subscribing too! Please make more Muppets content!
I unironically think the Muppet version of Treasure Island is amazingly true to the source material and also has the best Long John Silver ever;Tim Curry
Also, when I was growing up I loved seeing Alice Cooper do Welcome to my Nightmare and Roger Moore do a James Bond parody 😀 on the Muppet Show. They had a really well set designed Alice in Wonderland segment with Brooke Sheilds as Alice....The Muppet show was kids entertainment but with very sophisticated and adult writing..
@@daniellewillis2767 Too bad the Brooke Shields episode isn't on Disney+ because of the cast singing "The Wizard of Oz".
@@EntertainmentFan11 I've seen Brooke doing Alice in Wonderland on the Muppets, never Wizard of Oz
@@daniellewillis2767 You don't understand what I just said. The final number at the end of that episode was them singing "We're Off to See the Wizard" from "The Wizard of Oz". That episode of The Muppet Show is not on Disney+ because of that particular song which is owned by MGM. Now do you get it? If not, look up the clip where they did the tea party scene from the story of "Alice in Wonderland".
@@EntertainmentFan11one of only two episodes that isn’t on Disney+, the other being the Chris Langham episode because he got outed as a PDF file
I think one of Disney's mistakes is always trying to do sonething over the top with them. Yes, they're chaotic a lot of the time, but there's a lot of quieter moments too that round them out, like when Kermit talks to himself in the desert or when everyone temporarily splits up in Muppets Take Manhattan. I want more of those kinds of Muppet moments and unfortunately I dont think Disney is capable of any kind of sincerity anymore.
What makes The Muppets themselves, imo, is that they're essentially a community theater troope who stays together because they like to put on shows despite the ups and downs. Except for Miss Piggy, they're fairly humble characters, and Disney doesn't get it.
when kermit met piggy is the greatest loss of all 💔
great job on this video !! i loved it and it was such amazing quality !!! please do more muppet videos !!
Could not agree more!! 💔
Don’t put spaces between words and punctuation.
Yep
The Cheapest Muppet Movie and The Next Muppet Movie would've been extremely phenomenal. And yes, I'd take them over the 2011 movie. Sure, they wouldn't be as emotional as that film was but it definitely would've been funnier and more in the lines of the first three movies.
Anyways, I just discovered your channel and was surprised there's not that much. I hope you make more stuff like these because this was phenomenally well made and a lot of great research. I wish you the best luck for what's to come, and keep up the good work.
I wish they did Muppets 1776. I love the Muppets and history. Imagine Kermit as Paul Revere saying, “The Regulars are coming!”
"Kermit's Swamp Years": "that's a Pig????? I hope I NEVER see one of those ever again...." - Kermit
Forgot about that line! Haha.
I ADORE Muppets from Space. It has a kickin' soundtrack, funny scenes, and more Gonzo!
Same! It’s a bizarre timestamp in their history, but a delight. I’m grateful it wasn’t their last though.
I agree. Muppets from Space is the most underrated Muppet movie IMO.
I just hope we get another big muppets series or movie that will spawn several other great muppet projects. The muppets have been there for me through thick and thin. I remember putting on the original muppet series DVD and being transported to a world of laughs and mayhem that I was never tired of seeing them. I just want to relive that magic and the 2011 and 2014 ones were the closest I’ve seen. There was a flicker of hope with the abc one as well but we know where that went. Anyways great video.
I agree wholeheartedly. Adam F. Goldberg, a co-creator of The Muppets Mayhem, has been outspoken with hopes that this series will spawn a Muppet cinematic universe next, with future projects based on different characters. I really like the heart that he’s bringing to the franchise. One can hope!
...I had no idea this was your first video. It honestly comes off like it was made by someone who has a lot more experience and been around a lot longer. Good job.
I think out of all these, the cheapest muppets movie ever made needs to come back. It sounds like pure genius.
hope this channel makes it big. excellent work
Thanks, means a lot!
Great inaugural essay, man. Off to a strong start. I grew up watching the Muppets and this is full of really cool facts I wasn't aware of.
The muppets Time Machine sounds like such a muppets movie in humor! I love it and want it!!!
Considering how many monsters, demons, ghosts, and goblins the Muppets have shown throughout the years, Im surprised they haven't done more Halloween stuff. The Muppets Haunted Mansion worked rather well, and I think they could do more with the genre.
I don't know if it would have worked with the Muppets, but the score of Rodgers & Hammerstein's *Pipe Dream* is actually quite wonderful. A more obvious Broadway musical to adapt as a vehicle for the Muppets, though, would be *Carnival,* in which puppet characters are central to the plot.
Excellent and wonderful video here. The first Muppet Movie will always be a classic and terrific film ever. That's for sure!
Why thanks! Agreed.
@@retroruckus You're welcome! :)
I had no idea Muppets from space failed. Love that movie
The Jim Henson Company was planning a bunch of Muppet movies and specials during the early 2000s around the show’s silver anniversary, but they all got cancelled due to the failure of Muppets From Space and Elmo in Grouchland.
That’s too bad.
Yeah that’s just a shame and missed opportunities that could’ve turned out great projects
Also didn’t help that they were bought by a German company in 2000, then five seconds later, that company went near bankrupt, put Henson up for sale for almost two years (within that time 9/11 and the Wars on Terror occurred), before finally selling it back to the Hensons, who in turn sold the Muppets to Disney. Tumultuous four years in Muppet history.
I’m gonna have to rewatch the muppets wizard of oz because the sentiment seems to be really negative but I LOVED it as a kid- great video, shocked it’s your first! Will continue to watch :)
As a recent Muppet fan to me the Muppets will always be one of those timeless series that people of all ages can enjoy I still think they do a all with Kermit and friends so whatever plans they have for them i’m looking forward to it.
The Cheapest Muppet Movie sounds absolutely amazing and it seems like it would be more relevant now than ever before.
That Muppets in Hamlet movie absolutely needs to happen....
I think I really would have enjoyed the Disney + series that never happened. I hope it does come back and get made, but I’m currently loving Muppets Mayhem, and listening to the record album a lot. (Several of the songs slap)
The theme song alone may be the catchiest tune of the year.
The album is honestly pretty dang fantastic from beginning to end. I especially love that the Disney thing they parodied in the series itself was completely averted. They make no effort to modernize the band, to make them cover popular current tunes, or saddle them with a 21st century sound. Everybody involved really understands what makes these characters and the band special, and I really appreciate that.
It would be great if Disney released more of their soundtracks on CD. I don't own a record player, and for some reason, I can't get Amazon Prime or streaming services to work on my computer.
@@Beedo_Sookcool I just want “Ol’ Brown Ears is Back” to get a rerelease.
i'm really sad that people don't like Muppets from Space, it's one of my favorites
The funny thing about Muppets in Camelot is that there was a Simpsons Muppet parody with that premise, The Muppets go Medievil
Every long-running big name franchise is likely to have a number of cancelled and unmade projects, and The Muppets is no exception. If anything, the one movie I want to see most here is "The Cheapest Muppet Movie Ever Made", because it sounds extremely ambitious (from an in-universe perspective), and would also probably be the most insane Muppet movie ever made.
the original "cheapest muppet movie" looks hilarious.
Great video!! I was surprised when I went looking and didn't find too many solid Muppets docu-videos on youtube, and almost no coverage of post-Henson projects. Thanks for making this! Hoping to see more from the channel :)
The muppets Time Machine sounds like such a muppets movie in humor! I love it and want it!!! So many of these I wish came to light
Personally, I'm kind of bummed that they didn't continue on the adaptations of literary classics that they had with Christmas Carol and Treasure Island. Those movies were my childhood introduction to both stories and Treasure Island was my introduction to The Muppets to boot. To this day, when I think of the character Long John Silver, I automatically picture Tim Curry's version of the character.
When Muppets Attack is a genius idea from the ending alone.
That moment when you realize that there have been *more* canceled Muppet projects than there have been completed muppet projects - and that Henson sold to Disney to *avoid* constantly having to shelve projects - *only for Disney to end up shelving even more* xD
I loved how much information was in this video, and the amount of video content that matches the movies (that never happened) is just amazing. Thank you for assembling this!
Ah, thanks!
I so wish I could have seen that Muppets movie starring The Muppets, Sesame Street AND The Teletubbies.
wow this is ! wow !! this video deserves so much love ! it is so well made and about the best franchise ever… the muppets ! please continue making these awesome videos
Thank you for the kind words!
I hope they make a movie again 🙏 ❤ I love the Muppets sm
This is good work. Excellent content and editing! Excited to see where you go.
Thanks! Lots more to come.
How are you under 3k subs? What a hidden gem! I'm glad I found you before you blow up 💜
Oh hey, that’s my muppet show theme song karaoke track in your intro! I must have recorded that over a decade ago, I’m glad you liked it! I casually clicked on this video, so you’d imagine my shock when I heard it and thought, “I know that specific recording!” 😂 Let me know if you ever need more music!
Haha, I’m glad you found it! I of course popped your name in the credits. Thanks for making quality, Muppety music!
Muppet Monster Adventure was one of my absolute favourite PS1 games growing up. Knowing that it was originally going to be a different form of media makes it all the more intruiging.
I would love to see the cheapest muppet movie ever made, that sounds hilarious!! Hopefully Disney figures out what to do with the muppets and actually hire some good human actors for the next movie
that last bit was beautiful
imo, disney should've combined their "live action" remakes from the 2010s with the muppets. at least with the muppet projects, they get actors who can actually sing
That would be fun, i’d love to see the muppets do renditions of different Disney movies like what they did with Treasure Island (even though that wasn’t made by Disney, I think).
I adore the Muppets, I grew up watching the show, then the movies and all the spin-offs, I think that Jim Henson was a genius as were all the cast and crew that made the Muppets what they are (Not so much some of the ones in the last handful of years, though The Muppets and Muppets Most Wanted were fun).
Gonzo has been one of my favorites since the beginning, so when Muppets from Space came out, I drank it up! I love that movie so much, I relate to it and to Gonzo, never really feeling quite a part of life, always being the outsider, being the weird one in both family and friend circles. So that movie touched me in a really deep way, and I do tear up still even after watching and rewatching it for years. It will always hold a very special place in my heart.
A nice way to start your UA-cam channel. I'll be looking forward to some of your later material
For that Muppet Avengers crossover, I'm thinking Kermit would fit better for Captain America, and Animal would be Hulk.
I would also love to see the Swedish Chef as Thor, Gonzo as Iron Man, Scooter as Hawkeye, Fozzie as Nick Fury, Janice as Black Widow, Miss Piggy as Captain Marvel, Bunson as Vision, and Rizzo as Ant-Man, and I'm thinking that the title would either be called “The Muppet Avengers” or “A MARVELous Muppets Adventure to Save the World.”
As for the storyline, I’m thinking that after a successive show, the Muppets discover Beaker has been kidnapped by a mysterious supervillain who is trying to destroy their theatre, and that they discover a music box that turns them into the Avengers; Kermit becomes Captain America by wielding a Vibranium shield, Gonzo gets equipped with an Iron Man suit, the Swedish Chef is able to wield Thor's hammer, and Fozzie becomes the new director of SHIELD, and they all unexpectedly join forces with the Avengers. It is up to the two heroic teams to save Beaker from this mysterious villain before their theatre gets destroyed.
That sounds cool!
Y’know, it’s funny. I’ve actually uploaded my own video on Cancelled Muppets projects a few weeks after yours, and I didn’t even find out until after I uploaded it. Crazy coincidence, right?
Oh, wow! Great minds think alike.
I really wanna see The Cheapest Muppet Movie Ever Made come to fruition someday…
This is a great first video. You've already set the algorithm on fire. It's not often I get recommended someone's very first video. Either you cheated the system, and completely manipulated the AI, or you got very, very lucky. But if you keep it up with this level of quality video (hopefully about more than just the Muppets), than you'll become bigger than Mr beast in no time, and you'll completely forget about all the little people who got you there.
No AI here, I'm just as surprised as you are. I have been creating content for many years on other channels, but this is my first video essay and I made it out of pure passion. Maybe there is still hope in this mad, algorithm-driven world! Thanks for the comment and thanks for being here.
Great first video! It’s like you’ve been doing this for years. I wanted to see what your other videos were and I was surprised to see that there weren’t anymore!
The Muppet games on PS1 were actually quite good..
Wish they would remaster those games for modern platform.
It’s so funny that Muppets In Space is something that was actually written cuz I was thinking about trying to write it as a sequel to Muppets From Space😂
I would have loved to see the Cheapest Muppet Movie Ever Made. That title alone makes it sound like a good time.
I wouldn’t be surprised if Muppets in Space was picked back up under a different name, since Disney owns Star Wars and has been known to self-parody in the Plus era.
… also the muppets interacting with the teletubbies as a scene in a movie sounds oddly adorable and I’m curious as to what the script could have been between them. I see a lot of good potential for good scenes and jokes there.
Very good video, excellent visuals and narration.
“I am not going to recap the plot of Hamlet, as I don’t have the patience”… OH MY GOD I COULDNT STOP LAUGHING
I can't believe that Rogers and Hammerstein adapted a Steinbeck book into a musical and I only just know about it from you bringing it up...
I had no idea this was your first video until I read the pinned comment! It’s so professional, but not soulless. I adored it, and will for sure tune into other Muppets-related videos!
I’d love to see an awesome Muppets movie musical comedy from Disney and Jim Henson productions as part of a collaboration with original music by Marc Shaiman that’ll be worthy of some Academy Awards!
1. The Cheapest Muppet Movie ever made
2. Muppet Robin Hood
3. Muppet Camelot
4. Kermit Prince of Denmark
5. Muppet Time Machine
6. The Muppet Leave Hollywood
7. When Kermit meet Piggy
8. The next Muppet Movie
9. The Muppets Haunted Hotel
10. The Muppets Haunted House
11. Muppets in Space
12. Muppets 1776
13. The Muppets Save the World
14. Mission: Improable
15. Animal Origin Story
16. Muppets Las Vegas Adventure
That's shame that Disney couldn't release these movies. I wish the Muppets can make return. 🙏😇
Took me about 10 seconds to subscribe. I love this!
The Muppets franchise was a lot better prior to the Disney buyout when Sony was distributing most of the films. It was clear that Jim Henson was very anxious about the Disney negotiations and the fact that Jeffery Katzenburg and Michael Eisner were practically breathing in his ears about a potential buyout. Frank Oz even thinks that the stress over the Disney buyout is what killed Jim.
When you consider Jim’s stress that came with this Disney buyout, I believe that sticking to Sony Pictures as the Muppet’s primary distributor would have been a much better decision. The relationship between the two entities started with Muppets take Manhattan, and it was clearly working. But no.
That’s an interesting point. I would argue that a lot of their longevity is owed to Disney, however you feel about the recent projects. I think Kermit’s Swamp Years and A Very Merry Muppet Christmas Movie (and that naked Animal merch) show where the direction of the Muppets was headed with Sony. Perhaps without the massive success of their 2011 theatrical return, their relevancy would be a bit more boiled down to a thing of the past.
I’d like to see the multiverse where Sony bought the Muppets instead of Disney.
Cripes, every time I hear about Disney buying out something I love, I get nervous.
The very worst instance I ever heard of was when Walt himself and his goons kept pestering the author P. L. Travers for the rights to a Mary Poppins movie, and she kept turning them down because she was afraid they'd mess it up. After YEARS of badgering, she finally gave in, they made a "Mary Poppins" movie, she hated it, and spent the rest of her life denouncing Walt and the Disney Corporation for ruining her character . . .
. . . But that's not the worst part.
The worst part is, the Disney Corp. waited until after she died -- so she couldn't defend herself or set the record straight, natch -- to make a smear film called "Saving Mr. Banks," in which Kindly Old Uncle Walt (who loves absolutely everyone), calmly, gently, and caringly talks the shrill, stubborn, emotionaly damaged Travers into making the Mary Poppins movie, purely so he could bring joy to the children of the world. 🤮🤮🤮 Typical Hollywood history-rewriting.
I love and respect Frank Oz, but blaming “the stress of the Disney deal” for Jim’s death is dubious. Jim Henson was a grown man. He wanted to sell the company to Disney. Disney, or whatever “stress” came with a $150 million business deal, did not kill Jim Henson. An untreated bacterial infection that ravaged his body in a matter of days is what killed him.
As for Sony, the Muppets Take Manhattan came out in ‘84 (before TriStar was even owned by Sony). Sony and Henson formed Jim Henson Pictures in the mid-90s. Three pictures came out of that-Buddy, MFS, and Grouchland-they all BOMBED. Though I guess Sony had some success distributing Henson stuff on video during that same period. In ‘03, when Henson was up for sale by EMTV, Sony was reportedly bankrolling a bid for Henson by Classic Media (now DreamWorks Classics) and Sesame Workshop, but that was thwarted when the Hensons stepped in.
@@MuppetCore I don't know where you're coming with this "grown man" nonsense, like grown men shouldn't ever have emotions when their entire life's legacy is being aggressively bought out from under them by a rapacious company that screws up every property it buys from the original creators.
Please don't ever volunteer for a self-harm prevention hotline.
Such great research, presentation, interest, humor, and narration! You have a subscriber!
In December of 2020, I had the pleasure of speaking with Brian Lynch in regards to The Next Muppet Movie's script over on Twitter. One of the few details he divulged to me was that the audition scenes in which Kermit found the more obscure Muppets was to involve "Muppets that hadn't been seen or heard from in decades."
I had questioned those cameos meant going all the way back to the days of the vintage Jim Henson commercials of the 1960s or even Sam & Friends-- but Lynch did confirm that the cameos weren't going to consist of Muppets from that far back. Aside from that, he didn't reveal much else. I personally think they should've gone with this movie in 1998-99 instead of Muppets From Space.
Most of these failed projects sound awesome.
Banger of a first video. Easy sub
I would still love to see "The Cheapest Muppet Movie" get made someday - maybe make it a TV special instead, so you have an additional joke with Gonzo being warned that they need to cut out a few sequences to fit the timeslot and he cuts the film in really weird places so the story ends up making even less sense! Having a film or special starring the less famous Muppets and one with superheroes played by Henson puppets (not necessarily the Muppets) would be fun too.
Personally, I feel they peaked in the 90s. They should have continued the goldmine of adapting classic books into movies, rather than shoehorning themselves into reality TV or The Office-esque shows.
I love how this is the only video on this channel. It’s so wholesome ❤
Thank you. Just getting started!
I wanna see all these movies!! Especially the Cheapest one!!!!
I really enjoyed this video and look forward to seeing more from you
Thank you, more on the way!
Very nice video for the Muppets’ legacy.
Also maybe it’s just me, but I think you sound a bit like Walter.
Haha!
Really great work, I loved everything about this video! Also, The holy trinity you mentioned in the beginning are legit cinematic masterpieces. All three of those films hold up, and I still watch them often.
Incredible video, person I’m particularly interested in the cheapest muppet movie ever made, sounds incredible
as someone who actually loves the 2011 movie, it's very interesting to see how the bones of the plot were kind of all gathered from cancelled or never utilized movies,,, i had man or muppet as my ringtone for like. a year,, but i will admit that some of those other movies seemed really interesting
I wish the next muppet movie happened that climax would have been glorious
I wanna see these Muppet movies created for Disney+!
- Muppet Fairytale Classics (similar to Muppet Classic Theater, but as movie created exclusively for Disney+)
- The Muppets Arabian Nights (a Muppets version of the Arabian Nights stories)
- Muppet Robin Hood
- Muppets in Camelot
I'm a Gen X who grew up when Jim Henson was still alive. I'm always fascinated that so many Millennials and Gen Z's are Muppet fans, when to me, it's felt like the franchise has been treading water, or just plain drowning, ever since Jim's death. Watching this video drove the point home further for me, as I noticed *A Muppets Christmas Carol* and *The Muppets* (2011) were the only financial successes. The IP has survived a long time on nostalgia, only today it's getting by on nostalgia for works that were considered failures in their time.
The Muppet Show was produced in England because no one in the US wanted a show like that! Also, there was SNL's Land of Gorch which was supposed to be "Muppet for adults".
I think the Cheapest Muppet Movie Ever could work, if you took out the Muppets.
They used to show the videos of Kokomo and Wipe Out from that Beach Party album on Nickelodeon all the time along with "She Drives Me Crazy"
I’ve read the When Muppets Attack script and it’s much better than the film we got in that era…
Spill the deetz!
@@retroruckus what’s your email and i can try to dig it up!
t@trevorwalls.com thanks!
Great first video. You have a new subscriber in me and I'm looking forward to what else you end up producing.
Best Muppet content I've seen all day!😆 I really enjoyed your editing, writing and sense of humor! Keep it up!💯
A good overview to catch me up after losing track of them for a few decades
I honestly really recommend the 2011 movie. It's a great comeback film and is worth a watch for its Oscar-winning song alone.
awesome video it was so interesting to learn all about the failed projects
this was such a loving tribute to the muppets and a spark of hope for what else they can do
Thanks!
Great video, dude! I learned so much more about the lost Muppet films.... You inspired me!
Alot of those cancelled scripts sounded great