Junkyard Winchester 1894
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- Опубліковано 27 лип 2024
- In this episode, we'll resurrect a basket case Winchester 1894 in 25-35. We'll spend a few minutes in the shop making some repairs and then put a few rounds through it for the first time in at least 75 years.
Thank you, for preserving that very valuable piece of history! I have possession of my Grandfather's 1894 carbine, in 25-35, that he carried with him during his duties as a Royal Northwest Mounted Police officer. He bought it new in 1906, the year he started with the force. Old Winchesters Matter!!! :-)
It's fantastic that you have your grandfather's Winchester with an important history behind it. Those family guns are far more precious than any high condition "closet queen". Thanks for watching!
Glad to see those old Winchesters are still kicking out there, thanks for sharing
My first gun was a 1923 model 94 25-35 winchester. I know they're out there but I've never met another person in my actual life who had one. Killed my first deer with it and love it
My uncle was a trapper and I went with him as a little boy. He had a 25-35 like yours and he could shoot it like a master marksman. He never missed no matter how fast a deer was running. He taught me to shoot and how to live in the high country. We slept on the ground. I sure miss him!
Sounds like some great memories!
Outstanding restoration. I think it’s nice you took an older lady out for a dance. 🇺🇸👍
Thanks. It was really enjoyable to get that old rifle shooting again. Thanks for watching!
My dad was heading an ordinance co in WWII in May of '45. They took over a locomotive factory just outside of Dachau. He found a 94 win with the barrel bent around a lamp post outside. No indication of how it was bent. No signs of heating or levers used to bend it. He went in the factory, found a hacksaw and sawed the barrel off, gathered up some parts that had fallen off and took it inside. "requisitioned" a new .30 barrel for a BAR and had an old German machinist fit it to the action. Either through ignorance or hope of revenge, the old guy chambered it for 8.14 x 45(?), a popular European hunting cartridge. Dad got home and a few years later made new stock and forend from a cherry tree that had fallen on the property his sister and BIL had resently bought. Polished everything to a mirror finish and blued it nearly black. Dad passed in 2016 and that rifle is mine now. I'd really love to plug the chamber and rechamber it for 30-30, but I'm scared that I'd damage the finish. Someday I will, but I'm not quite ready yet.
It's great to see someone who appreciates these old rifles. It took many years of looking until I found a decent 25-35 that wasn't priced in the 2500-4500 range. I was looking through a rack of winchesters when I came upon a 64 that had seen some use, the bluing was worn and silverish but it didn't appear abused. Then I took a bore light which revealed that shinyest bore I have ever seen. I took the rifle home and hoped the sights were sighted in for factory ammo, seemed logical for me beings there is basically only one loading available. I still had my cataracts then so i wasn't sure how this would work. I put up a 12 inch shoot and see target, so I could see it at 100 yds, and had at it. Amazingly enough, I printed a 2 3/16 inch, 3 shot group!! I took it antelope hunting and managed to pop a nice doe, one shot, at 50 yds. I could have popped a nice 14 inch buck earlier, but it wasn't legal to shoot at that spot. But I was very happy with my doe! 😁 I would like to get a deer with that rifle yet, but I have been struggling with health issues for a few years now. But I did get my cataracts fixed. Hopefully I will still get the chance to hunt with it some more.
I love to hear stories of people hunting with old, open sight rifles. It takes some skill to harvest an antelope with open sights. Congrats! Good luck with getting to hunt deer with it. Check out my deer hunting episode from this fall.
I have an 1894 in .38-55 that I got a couple years back, makes yours look like a pristine example, would love to send you photos. It was sold to a local gun shop by an old timer who could no longer hunt. The original wood wasn't on it, the buttstock came off another Winchester with a pistol grip and the wood was relieved to allow the lever to work, there were no holes for a buttplate. The metal has a lot of pitting, but it's not deep. It's an octagon barrel and it's from 1895. The receiver is also pitted. But the barrel and the inside of the action, look great. I got it cheap, got some correct wood, correct sights, and was surprised with my handloads that it shoots very accurately. It's one of those guns that is a survivor, and to a collector, worth pretty much zilch, but trying to imagine the stories. I've hunted with it some, never killed a deer yet, got my last buck with its brother, a sporting 1894 half mag in .32-40 that groups like a match gun from 1909. I prefer the older, guns with some use than anything too nice to want to shoot.
Love the sound that old rifle makes when you lever a round in.
Always liked the lever guns especially the winchester... guess it's from the westerns I grew up watching.
Been using 4ought steel wool for decades. So many people ruin beautiful pieces by using coarser steel wool or (heaven forbid!) a sander to their guns. I really enjoy this channel.
I educated myself on the repair and resto of Winchester lever rifles about 20 years ago. I found the mag hangers rather ingenious as the dove tail aids in the lock up to align the tube. I repaired a 1894 DOM 1897 that has little blueing and was well abused, stocks, Barrel, screws replaced. What amazed me was this rifle was built before aircraft/cars machine work done on steam power and leather belt drives...all to within .002+- Inch...Amazing
The craftsmanship on these old rifles is definitely impressive considering what they had to work with. Sadly, the craftsmanship on most modern guns doesn't come close, even with today's technology.
@@thecinnabar8442 You can buy a Custom made rifle... W1895, 94, M 36...but you will spend $ 5000.00 + in work to make it as good as a standard case colored Winchester / Marlin that sold for $30.00 in 1900. My go to hunt rifle in a Savage 1899 in .300 Savage. Its the safest hunting lever rifle ever made with 3 safety features, Round count, lever lock, chamber loaded button, First class craftsmanship.
Really really enjoyed your video. Just bought a Winchester 9422 from 1973 a few minutes ago. Even here in Denmark boys have a dream of a Winchester. I’m a 61 year old boy. Lots of guns but a dream just came through 🥰
What memories. A friend of mine's family rifle was a M94 in 25-35. Nice patina, nickel steel barrel, "for semi-smokeless powder", long, octagon barrel, buckhorn sight. They said it had taken a lot of deer in the mountains of Nevada. I used to go over to their house to watch "Outer Limits" on Wednesday nights. They were always nice enough to get that rifle out and let me hold it during the show. I think of it every time I get out the Marlin 336CB in 38-55, or one of the 25-45 Sharps AR uppers.
I absolutely love old rifles like this, and bringing them back to life
I love the tang mount peeps. Ours has a marble tang mount we usually keep the insert out of it because we use it usually in drives and stalk hunts where shots are usually made reactively very fast
My grandfather's 1894 is first year of model, in 38-55. Sometime after he passed the original finish got destroyed. Totally brown and pitted with rust on the outside. The bore still shines.
What a stroke of luck !! The rifle shoots so much better than I expected from it's condition when ya started. I hate that "shootin blanks" feelin ya get when they don't even hit paper !!
Thanks for the lesson Sir! Love my 94
You're very welcome, Michael!
Great video- I inherited a 1894 rifle in 25/35- 1908 vintage-it was given to my dad by an old marine buddy- story goes it came with the family from North Dakota pre 1920. This video has motivated me to get it out of the safe & try it out on coyotes ! Thanks Much!
Nothing better than bringing an old firearm back into working condition. Good work and good shooting.
Thanks a bunch!
When I was about 16.I took a worn out 25-35 out shooting by the river by train trestle.The dove tail was broken off and it only had a flip up peep sight.Which I didn't know how to shoot with.got a groundhog at about 30 yards.I fell in love with this rifle the moment I pulled the trigger and it made that distinctive bowe-pow noise.all 25 calibers inherited from this rifle.their is no other caliber that makes this sound so distinctively as a 25 caliber hunting rifle from the 25-35 up to the 257 weatherby.
Would love to do an apprenticeship with you and learn how to do all that... Such a rewarding way to spend time... You sure make it look easy and fun... Beautiful job on the Winchester...
For my oiling on any gun, I put the oil on an old shaving brush. Much better than a cloth that traps dust and metal particles between the rag and the bluing. AND you can get down in every nook and cranny. I saves the bluing on the sharp edges of an octagon barrel and frame. As an aside, those 25-35's were really good shooters in their day. Over the years (many) I managed to acquire all 5 caliber 94's with 26 octagon bbls! I love them.
Thanks for the great tip, Irvin!
I have two of those 25-35"s and enjoy them more than a year other rifles I have!
I own that same rifle in same caliber. It was my Grandfather’s. Shot a lot of whitetails with it when I was a kid. Sadly it’s been sitting in my gun safe for 30 years.
Need to get some ammo and take it out for a spin.
Absolutely! Enjoy shooting that old rifle.
Always enjoy learning from people who know what they’re doing and this video was no exception. Thanks Mark!
Thanks Dogbone!
Back several years ago when the old lever guns were not to terribly expensive for average and below like the one you worked on, I bought up a few. Dont shoot them much but do enjoy getting them out every once in a while and oiling them up a little and just looking at them....
Sounds like an awfully good thing to spend a few bucks on. 🙂
@@thecinnabar8442 I traded off a 1873 and have always regretted that.... I havent been to a gun show for a long time but I’m sure that the $300 -$400 price range is no longer a reality....
Great channel, I love the old lever guns, and the new ones. I live in the state that most of them were made. It's great to see someone enjoying them.
I love old Winchesters. I have a few of them and my favorite woods walking rifle looks like this one’s little twin sister, it my 1907 Model-92 sporting rifle in 32WCF (32-20) she’s a tack driver and I absolutely love to shoot her!
Thanks for sharing this great old rifle and taking the time to fix her up. What a beautiful old girl!
Thanks a bunch! Glad to hear you're shooting your old '92
Amazing results, thanks
Very nice. It's great to see an older model with full rifle length, octagonal barrel, and crescent butt plate. Great job making her right again. Thank you!
Thanks Patrick!
Great video! I like your approach very much.
Much appreciated!
Nice work! Would love to get my hands on one of those.
Hey great job!! I am a nut for lever guns! I have been doing this for 40 years! I love the care you took to keep it original! This is a bunch who thinks a new barrel and what ever!! I like them as perfect as possible! Let me know if you need finding a part! I am on the Gulf about 35 miles north in Mississippi! Love to see a real cowboy!!
Very nice, wish I had one just like it
Great combination of rifle and caliber!
Nice to see the this as you did some repairs. I inherited Grandpas via Dad after he passed years ago. It bagged me a few deer in my youth. She was a bit heavy but it taught me to a bit tougher packing it may a seasons. I recall the first year I had it out, Idaho Fish and Game stopped me to check it out. Had the nerve to tell me it couldn't bring down a deer. I laughed as I told him that he couldn't count the deer this had taken over the years via Grandpa or Dad on his fingers and toes. Needless to say I got one myself that season. Looking forward to passing in down to my grandchildren.
Great story, Russ! Sounds like that old rifle has a whole lot of hunting stories to tell.
243 is the smallest caliber you could use in most states.I believe the 25-35 is a couple calibers larger.when hunting in sage brush,mansinita bushes and woods.with a 117 grain factory load or similar.I would rather use this rifle than the 6 mm 243 where it's real thick river bottoms.where your only going to get one shot off.In the open I would rather have a bigger 25 caliber than the 6 mm for open country.alot of people would disagree.unless they shot one and they would know even my weatherby in 257 magnum will swoon them deer,sheep,pronghorn,big mule deer,elk,moose.But just remember one thing my grandpa who lived in Alaska did this with the 25-35 95 years ago before all these fancy new rifles were ever even thought of.
@@Robert-fs1pb Truly an all round rifle. I recall stories of Grandpa shooting geese from the grain silo with it as they flew over too.
Idaho Fish and Game and I got into a pissing contest about using back in the early 80"s . Advised him, when he grew up and knew how to use a firearm we could talk. Its not so much the size of the bullet as is the placement on its target that matters. Just make sure you are within the range needed to place the right shot.
It is a very prized rifle that I look forward to passing down to the grandkids.
Great video! Resurrection of a forgotten mistreated classic--awesome!
Nice old working rifle. The story of Winchester putting good rifles in good hands.
Thanks! I really admire these old guns that have been used hard and are still ready to put food on the table. The stories they could tell!
I just got my first 38-55 . It's a capegun left barrel is 12 gauge right barrel is 38-55. I really enjoy 38-55 it's a really pleasant round to shoot.
It's always great to watch you revive an old gun into working shape. 🙂👍☕
Content (almost hate calling it that) like this keeps my coming back to UA-cam. Thank you very much for this awesome video!
Thanks so much for taking us along. Personally, I enjoy and like the old guns. You did an excellent job of teaching and flowed naturally.... What a wonderful old lever rifle.
Thanks for watching, Andrew!
😊👍👍. Thanks for sharing the video! You did a fine job. It looks a100% better than before!
You're very welcome, Ricky!
I have a 94 saddlering carbine in 25/35. Shoots great, love hunting with it.
Great combination! Glad to hear you hunt with it.
Could it take a elk within 100 yards
How cool is that ? I love when ole stuff gets fixed rather than thrown away...... Happy days , good video mate 🇦🇺👍
Thanks Trev!
That's a really great & lucky find & fix , quite a nice shooter too.
Thanks Scott!
You working on that old Winchester reminds me of my uncle Al he was a smith and his bread and butter was working on old winchesters.
Nice work Mark. Love the old Winchesters. I tried once to restore an old Win 94 that was pulled from the ashes of a house fire. Sadly, all the wood was gone and the metal had become severely warped. Wasn't a single part worth keeping. Spent a lot of hours trying to disassemble and for the most part, I was only able to free a couple of external parts. Sad to see a weapon destroyed like that. Thanks for sharing.
Nice looking old rifle and what looked ruff was an easy fix. Good job!
Thanks Ron!
Wow! Great job and loved the idea of taking something forgotten and neglected and making it absolutely wonderful.
Thanks for watching Mark,
I would be interested in seeing the repair of that finger lever. Good job on that 25-35. Its nice to see someone giving some love to a old forgoten firearm.
Thanks Derek. It’ll be a while before I get to that lever, but I’ve got a broken tang on an 1895 Winchester to weld up soon.
Your repaired 1895 25-35’s twin in hanging in my display case in my office/shop. Sweet rifle, my favorite coyote shooter. Your presentation was interesting and enjoyable to watch. The scenery made me want to want to come visit and talk old Winchesters.
Thanks Kerry! We definitely like to talk old Winchesters here.
Great Grandad had a 1894 Winchester 23-35 in the gold rush in Alaska. He used it for everything right up to moose.
It's definitely a versatile rifle/caliber combo!
Very informative, that sure looked like a project no one else ever wanted to do, but you brought that gun back to life. I love the old 1894 rifles. My two are chambered in 32 Win Special and 30WCF.
It’s a shame how some of these rifles have been misused. I saw one where the tang screw was replaced with a carriage bolt!
Dad was a tool & die maker. He gave me a shaving brush that was used to apply oil onto the surface of guns/gun parts.
Great video and nice easy to follow gunsmithing, thanks for taking the time to show us how it's done.
You're very welcome!
Thank you, Sir.
All the information that you are passing on is so valuable!
Todays generation are set erasing our history and it is a real tragedy!
This information and these videos will carry on many years and give people something to turn to.
Thanks Rodney! We'll be doing several more of these kinds of episodes planned for the future.
Really glad you serviced that beautiful old rifle. What a cool unusual caliber, and what a special flip up peep sight! Thanks for sharing and hope you show how well it hunts 👍
You're very welcome, Jim!
This is a nice little pellet gun and the scope is pretty accurate once you set it for your sight. We have some varmints that we don't want to kill, just scare off, and this has done the trick.
Great to see the ole rifle made back to working condition Love my 1894 .Nicely done Cheers
Thanks Cliff!
Nicely done, not over restored, just brought back to life.
Thanks Paul
I have a Frankenstein 25-35 . It has a Remington barrel with a Winchester action. a Marlin butt plate maybe stock with marbles sights. Plus tape around the stock where it fastens to the action. I never shot the rifle since I never trusted the repairman. I know the last time it was shot was back in the 60s. Action and trigger works fine. Not worth anything just a family heirloom. Back in the 50s and 60s plenty of deer were taken using the rifle.
Great video! You’re doing the Lords work bringing back these ol rifles. That 1894 sure appreciates it too!
Thanks, John!
Thank you... That was a great fix! I need to find an old rifle like that!
You bet!
Sixty years ago I bought a model 94, 25-35. It was built in 1910 with a 28 inch barrel, which was a special order length. Changed the sights and added a Marble peep sight. I shot mostly varmints from a rest. At 200 yards I could put the bullet right on the money. It was the best rifle I ever owned. I foolishly sold it many years ago. The only down side was that long octagonal barrel got heavy if you had to carry it a long distance.
It sounds like it was a great rifle! I hope I can get this old rifle shooting that well.
Great video…love seeing an old gun come back to life!
Thanks Brian!
I just got 4.5 boxes of 25-35 ammo made in the 40s Western Winchester and another box can’t remember the maker Maby Remington . 117 grain I plan on putting them up on gun broker for sale. Original boxes of antique ammo especially rare stuff like that bring a premium. I also lucked up and got some old western “metal piercing “ .45 and .357 ammo full boxes used by highway patrol in the late 60-70s thats valuable
I have a Savage 99 in 25-35. It was my grandfathers favorite rifle. Unfortunately the bore is now so rough, it shoots about 10 inch groups at 100 yards. The chamber is also out of round. I have played with the idea of having it rebarreled, but so far it just stays in the safe.
Re-barrel or lap the old barrel. Drives me nuts when people don't use something that was passed down thru the family because they worry about messing up the value or patina. Continue the story with your Grandfather's rifle by making it usable again. Let your grandfather look down and see you hunting with his favorite rifle. Then pass it on if that's a option so the story can continue. Just my two cents.
Ps I love Savage model 99's. I have two
they make a round called the 30-30 maybe have it chambered for that.
Very nice video, enjoyed that immensely. Great rifles ... seeing someone ressurect these is a real treat. I have one brother of mine that has a 1921 1892 and another brother has a 1951 1894 carbine. Such wonderful rifles ... I'm the oddball with a 70s Marlin 336C.
Very enjoyable video. Educational as well!
Thanks Brian! Glad you enjoyed it
There was a reason my 'Stud Hunting Dog' was named Winchester and not Bubbu... in his seventeen years he had hundreds of pups many growing into champions in their own wright.
Great job with the $15.00 special, Mark the 'Winchester Whisperer.' That was always my go to caliber for eradicating woodchucks digging out my culvert pipes, undercutting bridge foundations, and burrowing into the upland dam's at some of the lakes. Thanks for the great video partner... (Great Old Saddle Gun)
Thanks Wesley! I sure wish we could still hunt with dogs out here. The cats and bears are getting plumb out of hand on the ranch. We have rockchucks out here and this may just turn into the "go-to" gun for those little buggers.
@@thecinnabar8442 I've had seven children and everthing in my house from chipmunks to deer, elk, bobcats, lions, and yes bears... I prefer the lions and bears, but once I had a thing with a gentle Buffalo yes yes Tall Sally had my Heart!!! Her and the wife never hit it off.
Maybe that was the thing,,, LOL
Love me some Cinnabar, God Bless...
Great job Mark. Entertaining and informative. I may have to have you look at my old 94 30-30.
Thanks Jim! Bring that 94 on over. We may need to test fire it though. Maybe at a rockchuck.
Thanks for sharing your knowledge I love older firearms the workmanship in them is incredibly amazing!!!👍
You're very welcome, Jon!
My first firearm was a winchester 25-35 given to me by my grandfather he was a winchester only man. He also left a beautiful .32 special 38-40 and 30-30 carbine because no lever collection is completer without the immortal 30-30
Sounds like your grandfather had excellent taste in firearms!
Easy peasy. A .25-35 is on my short list of acquisitions to, uh, aquire. I would think it would be perfect for calling coyotes when multiple prairie yodelers come in all at the same time. Great vid!
I agree. Gonna have to give it a try. There've been way too many of them yipping here in the mornings lately.
Very interesting and enjoyable video, I'll be watching more of your vids soon. Tho there are several lever rifles in my herd, including a '92 Winnie, a BLR, and a pre funky-safety Marlin, hunting rifles per se arent my preferred cup of tea. Collecting and shooting old military firearms/calibers are where it's at for me... I'd like to add a traditional .45-70. Someday! Glad I found your site, it has brought back memories. Thanks!
You're very welcome, Ronald! I'm glad you're enjoying the channel.
Awesome video! Great shooter!👍🏾😀❤️🇺🇸
Thanks Jeffry!
Love your videos! Keep ‘em coming and I’ll keep watching! Thanks!
Thanks a bunch Bill!
Great repairs and presentation! Perry Pappous, So Cal
I use a 1936 Model 94 in the 32 Winchester for deer hunting. Quick, light and easy to carry, its the best damn brush gun ever made.
Mine is a 1970 model I believe. Bought it dirt cheap because everyone wants 30-30 not 32 WS. My go to deer rifle for over 20 years. Never fails me.
@@rodneymcdermott5303 : They are great guns, I just got rid of a 1946 30-30 that I found out had the butt replaced. Im not a savvy collector like some guys are so when I bought it I thought it was original. Funny thing, I made 400 bucks off a gun I owned for maybe 4 years, I'll take it.
Damn that Bubba da `smith ! I use to pass all those cobbed up Bubba guns. Now even the "junk" is hard to find. Another great video. Completely enjoy them. Than you!
Thanks Robert! We've got quite a few of these "well used" old ranch rifles to play with. Being looking for more repair and restoration episodes.
Great job. Old Winchesters are my favorite rifles.
Thanks, Sonny!
That’s great 15 minutes from basket case to it’s original glory. Nice work didn’t take much to turn that back around
Thanks Ken! It was great fun to get this old rifle shooting again.
Really enjoy your videos and learning about old Winchesters, repairs and restorations.
Glad you liked it. I plan to do several more, including some complete restorations in the future.
That truck's bout as cool as the Winchester!
Pretty cool old ranch truck. I've had a couple of offers on it from people watching this episode.
Enjoyed your post. I liked and subscribed. I've had a Winchester 1894 for a few years and appreciate the iconic design. Mine is in 30-30.
😊 I grew up on a Montana farm where money was tight and we made do with whatever was at hand. This old rifle would have fit right in.
Good video, nice ol 94 back in service
Excellent video sir, just love those old Winchester’s.
Thanks for watching James!
Great video mark it makes me cherish my 1951 94 all original in 32 special that. Much more back when guns were made to last
Thanks Jason!
Thanks Mark
Great video
Please keep posting
Looking forward to the every new one
Thanks Hasan!
My favorite's always been the .32, followed real close by the .38-55 (though, I prefer it, just box ammo is kinda hard to find), but I shot a friend's 25 and I gotta say its mighty damn practical. Download it for small game, hot load it for whitetail.
Good job. Thank you for bringing that nice old rifle back.
Thanks! Others may disagree, but I don't think there's a bad caliber choice in the 1894 lineup. It just depends on what it's being used for. I'm with you on the 25-35 - it's darned versatile for small to medium game. And it's also lots of fun to shoot.
I love my .32, but I don't think anyone makes the ammo at all anymore
Beautiful rifle
Thanks a bunch!
Great video!
Very nice lever action
Thanks, Jason!
AMAZING RESTORATION!!!! just subscribed
Welcome aboard, Kirk!
THANK YOU SIR FOR THE RIDE
God smiles every time a Winnie is reborn. SUBBED.
Thanks for watching Mason!
My first rifle (though not an octagon). I've been looking around for one to replace it.
Thanks for the video.
You're very welcome, Greg! I really enjoy those '94s in 25-35. One of my favorite guns to shoot. Thanks for watching.
The Cinnabar ; I just happened upon your channel and, I'm hooked. I love these old firearms, always wondering what Tales they could tell if they could talk. I've owned four 1894 Winchesters in my lifetime, all were chambered for the
30/30, I'd love to get my hands on a 25/35.
Thanks for sharing this informative video with us and, you've got a new Subscriber.
Stan
You're very welcome, Stan! Welcome aboard!
Nice work..!
great video ty for sharing !