The Unexplained Tragedy of Dyatlov Pass
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- Опубліковано 15 жов 2024
- In January of 1959, a group of ten hikers set off into the Northern Ural Mountains in what was then the Soviet Union. Igor Dyatlov and his companions, mostly other students, were to make their way deep into the Siberian wilderness to hike Mount Otorten, but for reasons nobody has truly been able to explain, all but one of them would perish on the side of Peak 1079. This is the story of Dyatlov Pass as it's never been told before. Welcome back to The Lore Lodge...
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i love how much you focus on discussing the victims and who they were in their life. it really helps this story become less of a spooky campfire story and more of the tragedy that it was.
It's kind of sad that none of the other channels I have seen cover this case went into so much detail about who these people were before this incident.
How would knowing more about the people make the story less creepy? Regardless of who they were, the lack of any hard evidence as to what happened makes this both tragic and horrifying.
It's overdue that someone did. I had been wanting to know more about who the victims were.
@@IceFireofVoiddidnt mr ballen also told this one
Completely agree! At first I thought it was just irrelevant but I actually enjoyed the way he explained from their reasons for being on the expedition to the diary input and then describing the victims.
This has always been one of my favorite “creepy” incidents. It almost feels like it would’ve been written for a book rather than being something that truly happened - like it’s so perfectly freaky that it feels fake, despite knowing it’s not.
@@budgreenjeanswhile they are good story tellers, they aren’t solving anything😂 I know they hold that one W close but nothings ever really been solved, just given a possible explanation
Honestly, there's nothing creepy in a story about students going into "sports tourism", getting way to cocky and dying due to a series of stupid decisions. Everest is littered with people like that.
@@DrNiradino You could just as easily say there’s nothing creepy about horror movies, because it’s all fake. Personally I do find Everest to be super creepy with the way bodies can’t be retrieved and just stay where they are.
@ghostatbest that's just location.... oxygen levels etc and the effort it would take
However we should have drones doing it
@@MatthewGill-nv4tb you do understand that drones need air too, right? Thin air uphigh doesn't create enough lift in a conventional bladed aircrafts.
Honestly them having barley makes sense. Barley can be turned into a hot, filling meal just by boiling, has a great calorie to weight ratio, and is non-perishable when kept dry.
I like to take barley and honey with me when I camp. Simple filling breakfast that doesn't take up much weight/room.
It's also very high in vitamin C.
Before the potato was introduced in the late 1700s Norwegian peasants survived on vassgraut, barley and water boiled to a porridge.
Exactly, when he said he didn't know why they took barley. Well food
Yeah, beef and barley soup is really common where I live so I was just like, "To eat?" XD
Wow, usually I’m not one to comment but the quality of this video is PHENOMENAL.
It felt more like a college lecture than a casual video on UA-cam. I appreciate how much info went into the creation of this!
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Love seeing a youtuber comment on another one that I also watch 😂😂 Love your videos too! 🤙🏾🤙🏾
Havent seen the video, and I wont be, only came here to leave a comment, coz I was suggested it with its clickbait title. Coz ITS BEEN EXPLAINED!!!!
Making a video now, after the mystery has been solved, is just about money. No matter how much work has been put into it, the "info" is NOT complete, when he still claims it to be unsolved!
Instant NEVER subscribe from me.
@@dfuher968🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Keep commenting. It only helps them, and they will never see your comment themselves. So, good job.
Also, there is a part two to this video talking about the re-investigation, and conclusions. Which you would have known if you watched even two minutes into the video. So, bravo. You're an idiot. And the very "clickbait" title that you said was the reason for you to not watch the video brought you here, and made you comment, which helps them immensely with the algorithm, and brings them even more views. And then it gives people like me a reason to reply to your comment, which in turn helps them even more with the algorithm. So, as much as you don't like it, you just gave them so many more views than if you had just watched the video, or even just ignored it completely, and moved on.
Way to go, champ.
@@dfuher968you’ve commented this in a couple of threads…what’s the explanation? I’ve seen that Russia said it was an avalanche, but do you actually believe that? The tent was still standing, and there was footprints in the snow still!
27:29 Barley can be boiled or steamed to create a pretty calorie dense food on par with rice, and it is quite filling. Given their access to snow and the likelihood that they were refreshing their water supply with boiled snow, it would have been an easy food to prepare.
Many times in my life I've tried to boil barley, on its own and especially in stews, and it's never ever once gone soft. I'm jinxed where barley is concerned, even if I cook it all day. So when barley was mentioned in the video I too went, what??? 🤔 They must have liked chewing that's all I can say
I love boiled barley soup: I'm not a particularly accomplished cook, but don't usually have much trouble with it - I just toss a handful into a rice cooker with boiling water, let it boil for several minutes, then add other ingredients like salt and seasoning, broth, meat, vegetables, and egg noodles - pretty good just after it's cooked up, and even better the following day after the barley has a chance to cook further in the hot food and soak in the flavors and soften further overnight! Of course that's a lot of stuff that the Dyatlov party wouldn't have had with them, but the point is, I see no particular reason they couldn't have boiled up some barley under primitive conditions into a hot cereal, soup, or whatever. It's pretty good stuff!
I could imagine the party heating a cup of barley on their stove with melted and boiled snow overnight, and eating it for breakfast in the morning. Toss some jerky in there, along with whatever vegetables could be scrounged up on such a brutally cold trail while it cooks, and you easily make a pretty good stew or soup from materials readily available to the adventurers....
@@VMM34it doesn’t go soft and mushy in the way oatmeal does. It’s more like a “nutty” flavor/texture.
I eat pearl barley as a staple. It isn't supposed to be too soft , cook in boiling water with a bit of salt, when softened, wash with cold water . Perfect for saladas too
27:29 Barley may be a mistranslation of buckwheat, which is гречка (grechka) or каша (kasha) in Russian. It's a common staple food in Russian cuisine, it can be sauteed with butter and vegetables or boiled in water or milk to make porridge.
That's really interesting, thanks for sharing 👍 I've just mentioned in the comments that I've never managed to cook barley to an edible consistency, not even cooking it all day!
Good answer. I thought the barley was for the horse they borrowed.
I make barely all the time and it is common next to buckwheat in our food what is because of ocupaion and nearness to russia pretty similar. Also modern people can use pressure cooker and 30 min perfectly cooked. In old days they for instant slow cooked it in wood burning oven etc@@llcoolray3000
I love buckwheat, and bulgar wheat. It's so tasty. I love adding some chicken stock and letting it sit until it's warm. Then you can add feta cheese, tomatoes, parsley, chives, red onion, some olive oil and lots of black pepper. It's so tasty and you never get any bloating eating it
@samrobertson7535 agreed with mistranslation but I will disagree where the mistake is. What is missing in the english translation is probably the word "groats" as barley groats is very much a thing and grechka & kasha are from different grains. I checked and in my language is the same mistake with translation. Barley groats are basically grains with removed shells either whole ones or on different levels of fragmentation
@VMM34 did you tried de-shelling the grains first? with shells you will never cook it to the soft enough state. If you have access to polish shop somewhere near you or to buy online - try to look for Kasza pęczak (full deshelled grains - my absolute favourite!) or Kasza mazurska/perłowa (crushed and polished barley) - it is very tasty - I love it as side of the stew or added to the soup but I had real troubles with finding those anywhere outside eastern/central europe...
And then there's part three, a livestream in which you guys and Wendigoon get tipsy and come up with the most wild solutions and conspiracy theories possible that could actually kinda make sense. A masterpiece of a trilogy.
Your idea makes sense! The book by Gavin de Becker about his career as VIP protection services says always listen to the jokey remarks as they are more than likely true, although they're said in jest, it's their intuition working 👍
Hey! Do you know where I could watch this?
Follow it up with a surprise part 4 as they travel to the scene of the incident and do their own investigation. True dedication right there.
Wendigoon’s theory would probably be giants
"it does seem there's something killing russians on mountains. and this time, it's not the mojahedin" as a Caucasus native, i appreciated that joke 🤭 also if you need help translating Russian, i'd be more than happy to help!!
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@@El_SamBWhere did that come from?
I recently got into watches, and I find the mechanical watch evidence as useful. It's just a bit peculiar. The one hiker had two watches that both stopped at a similar time. The other hiker's stopped at 5 AM. The thing is, a mechanical watch has a power reserve, so does that suggest that by the time the watches had stopped, the hikers were *already* dead? They wouldn't have been alive to wind their watches. It's also possible that they died shortly before their watches stopped because the mechanisms inside froze once their bodies stopped giving off heat. Such a strange event.
Or some weapon fried the watches
@@Insidious_Rage They're mechanical, so the force would've had to produce some sort of physical impact.
@@Insidious_Rage
Something powerful enough to fry a *_mechanical_* watch is also going to fry a human into a crisp.
@@dainluke true, but some of them had injuries like smashed ribs and i think a caved in skull. At least from what the Russian report says ofc, im sure we arent getn all the info from autopsy which is what really makes this case impossible for people to sokve
@@Insidious_Rage That's true. I really don't know in all honesty. It's entirely possible that an avalanche gave them those injuries, but when it comes to Russia I kinda always assume something weirder is at play.
I'm pleasantly unsurprised to say that this is the best recounting of this story I've heard.
This was the very first story I heard on the topic of unexplained mysteries. Glad you are covering it!!
Ooh you’ve got so many great videos to look forward to if this is your first one :-)
This story always gives me chills. You have to wonder what the den group went through to get those injuries and if they happened alongside the others. I feel awful for their families. Well done coverage Aiden and Aiden as usual ❤
The Aidans going though actual Russian documents for this story shows how much research go into their content and I'm so grateful for such an awesome channel
This sounds similar to an unsolved case here in Australia. Technically it is a missing 411 from the land down under. 4 people go missing, 3 weeks later found with internal organs missing, but no surgical procedures were made. It's got almost zero information out there which makes it hard to work out. Zinger to that is body's were found pretty much where people had cased over twice. The whole story is virtually forgotten too
What's this case called?
@bbbbbbbbbrittany they don't have a name or podcast like 411 or Lore Lodge, but there are stories of the Black Mountian in Queensland, The hollow people of Pine Gap and a few others. They just don't get investigated like these
Hey man I'm from Australia these stories sound really interesting any links or any information you could point me to, to find more about these?
Trying to find out more and more obscure and less unknown profiled stories that have gone under the radar!
If you could send me some in a reply that would be awesome thankyou!
@theconspiracyguy6993 They were from old Herald Sun, The Australian and The Age news papers. It was when I was huge into news papers. But search up Black Mountain disapperances. There have been heaps upto early 1900's and even from. Also there's the bloke that went missing with his plane too
Can't wait for part 2. I've only recently come across this channel and I'm very impressed with the amount of research being put into it. I've watched several videos about this mystery and I'm very curious what you're going to make of it.
For those eagerly awaiting Part 2, Archie's Archive has a great video on this incident. He's a Russian native and does really in-depth videos. Check it out!
Thanks 👍
Superb channel 🙌🏼
I have seen almost EVERYTHIG online about this case but this is the most researched I've seen great job!!!
The French guy, Nicolai, indeed had a degree in construction engineering. He was a Ural Polytechnic University graduate, which is basically a hands-on STEM uni - it prepares u to work in professions like a car mechanic, a locksmith, a civil engineer and so on. Abt barley - it used to be as popular as oats over here + it was reaaally cheap, so if u were planning to cook during a hike, chances are barley would be your grain of choice.
Thanks for the insight, i actually have a deep affection for Russian culture and history. It’s an interesting place.
But I have to admit, I chuckled to myself when you called Nicolai “the French guy.” Just because my first thought was; “oh yes, the very well known and popular boys’ name in France; Nicolai!” Do you think they called him Kolya or Frank?
@Thor-Orion_MelqarTyr for some reason, it's only now that I got a notification about your reply😂 and that's fine, I also think it's funny. if they were close, they would probably call him Kolya, if not - Nicolai, or even maybe by his surname alone. Using surnames to address someone was relatively common and there were two scenarios: 1) used by superiors and teachers would use it, in which case it'd be an authority thing or 2)used by peers, usually just means u know each other well (have been working/studying together) but not well enough. And it's fummy how Kolya sounds incredibly Russian while Nicolai does not 100% even though it should cuz it's Greek-derived&russified. Nicolai may not sound French, but some years ago, back in Tsar's Empire era' it sorta did. Aristocracy or even pretend-aristocrats would pronounce it in a different way to make it sound more French bc they would speak french sometimes more often than their own language - it was the trend of the time, the Tsar did sport the same name and classical books had some characters going by that name, so even if today u call someone Nicol'aa instead of the normal "Nicolai" many ppl's mind will still go to France (couldn't find a better way to explain the pronunciation change to the normalNicolai, the Nikol'aa representation of it is definitely still far from perfect)
@@Perepeteia look up the Michelberg culture, it gradually became the various groups of what was would probably today refer to as Northern (or Norse in their own language) pagans; the northern Germanic and Gaulic and Celtic people in the north and west and then the Rus in the east.
You did some great researching! Some of the details I haven't even known, like the diary entries. And google translating russian documents so you could tell this story as well as you could?
As soon as I don't need to be so cautious with my money, you'll get your one or five dollars a month 🌻
Right? I’ve heard probably five or so different people/groups tell this story and I’ve never heard of the diary entries
Ive been absolutely consuming this channel recently and I was looking for the next part and realized this was just posted! Can't wait for part two, keep up the great work 🍿
6:25 I often end up finding the background and culture segment just as interesting as the actual incidents themselves, especially if they intertwine (which is more common than I'd expect.)
You don't even know how much mental time and real estate this story has taken up in my brain. I went on a manic rabbit hole on this. I was in it for a good solid 3 months trying to find any information on it that I could.
Okay I'm a little disappointed it's 2 parts but I'm excited for your analysis which I assume will be extremely in-depth.
you know. Just like 9/11. Steel went to powder. A paper passport recovered days after. Identifying the culprit. Amazing! I’m so proud of our investigators to solve this crime! I feel so safe now!
This is a case that has interested me a lot and I found this to be the series of events I think makes the most sense:
Evidence on the scene suggest that actually there *wasn't* an avalanche, but that doesn't mean the people in the tent didn't think there was one. Perhaps they heard sounds outside, or their tent collapsed under a strong wind. They panicked, someone made the call to evacuate the tent, they cut their way out and run downhill. At some point, they realize there was no avalanche so they walk to the safety of the treeline.
Here, the group splits. Now that they know there is no avalanche, 3 of the members try to go back to the tent to salvage the equipment. They would die of hypothermia on the way. Two of the members start a fire, and the other 4 try to build a snow shelter. Eventually, the two by the fire succumb to hypothermia. The remaining 4 survivors loot the bodies of their friends for the rest of their equipment in order to keep themselves warm. This is why the 4 in the den were the best dressed.
Unfortunately, the den eventually collapses, crushing the people within. Likely in their sleep. The one who was not crushed may still have been trapped within, since his arm was under the body of a man who was crushed, and he may have suffocated in there.
This is the only explanation I could find that covers most of the questions.
A katabatic windstorm occurred. The hikers fled, thinking it was an avalanche. The five found outside the tree line died from exposure. Flying debris would explain their light injuries. The wind froze them solid. The four found in the ravine died when the snow bivouac they were building collapsed. This explains the severe trauma. Missing soft tissue can be explained by animal scavenging and decomposition. They were in a ravine that had running water. Water facilitates decomposition and attracts animals. The radiation is explained by the fact that two of the hikers worked around radioactive sources.
There was a Swedish hiking group that was wiped out by katabatic winds, with a single survivor.
This is the theory that neatly explains every variable observed.
I wish I could look at all the pictures. In any case I don't think it was that kind of wind or an avalanche. If you see pictures their ski poles are still up and there are small trees around the tent and it doesn't even look like a branch was broken. Just as a side thought why did they cut their way out of the tent, they obviously had a door (flap). I'm from Germany and we used to go camping and well after this time the tents were still thick and heavy. If you heard an avalanche or high winds coming where do you think you are running to anyway but you sure wouldn't stay inside something and stand there and cut your way out.
Explain the Radiation found on them , other than that excuse radiation would've dissipated after those days in the cold.
@@NickyLovesPasta They did, silly. as far as I know radiation only came up on three pieces of clothing, and those three pieces belonged to the two hikers that worked with that substance.
I’ve watched several people cover this topic, from UA-cam to Expedition Unknown. I really like how you went in depth about each person in the group, what they were doing and their personalities. Can’t wait for part two!
We're eating good tonight, lads!
Dyatlov Pass has got to be one of my #1 favorite unexplained mysteries, and I'm thrilled it's getting its time here. Can't wait to hear what theories you pull together out of the absolute wreck that's the evidence. I'm on Team Mass Hysteria (I can't remember the name of it, but the wind and the subsonic noises that make human brains misfire. That as the inciting incident, but the rest of it is anyone's guess)
Your exuberant attitude toward documented & accepted (never-you-mind even unexplained) human deaths is troublesome.
@@purplehaze412 agree, this is what’s wrong with the true crime community
What attitude?? He is saying he is glad it's getting discussed and maybe the mystery will be solved.
@@insertnamehere917You sound very insular, you're the type who incarcerates people in jail with little evidence
@@VMM34 kind of ironic that you’ve derived that about me from my one sentence comment 🤔
Someone made a good theory but I forgot which UA-camr it was. Someone said that it could be from the smoke from their stove thing. The smoke filled up their tent which caused them to be delirious and it was the reason why there were some walking out without their gears. It was also a reason why their tent was cut up and torn.
I forgot the specific details but it was a really good theory. EDIT: It was from Lemmino.
Stove wasn’t used that night. This is highly documented in the original case files. It was found in its case, pipes stored in body of stove lying on the floor. Lemming put a lot of effort into nothing.
Looking forward to part 2. I agree that there isn't really a "one size fits all" solution to what happened. Some people pretty clearly DID die of hypothermia (the two guys by the tree come to mind), but why leave the tent in the first place, as it seems at least most of them must have been inside the tent when it happened and got out in a hurry. Maybe they thought the tent caught fire and got out in a hurry, but then why run so far away? And that still doesn't explain the crushed ribs and broken bones.
There's a good explanation that came out a year or so ago that made sense to me and accounts for pretty much everything. I'm guessing it's probably what Adrian will cover in part 2 - won't spoil it here. They didn't 'run away'; it was the middle of the night , their tent was no longer viable, so they were trying to get down into the treeline for alternate shelter.
Any "natural" explanation I heard for them leaving the tent just doesn't make sense. Both the avalanche and stove malfunction ones. To me, it seems like they tried to sneak away.
@@patron8597What about the stove theory doesn't make sense? You wouldn't stay in a burning tent filled with choking smoke, and once you cut your way out (because you couldn't find the exit through the smoke) the tent no longer keeps you particularly warm. It seems like the kind of terrible but mundane snowball of disasters that frequently occurs in cold wilderness.
@@patron8597 Right? I've also heard the 'weird freak snow storm that only happens like every so and so years' theory and I don't think it was anything natural or weather related, it bugs me when people try to write it off as a freak snow storm or an avalanche, or wild animals.
@@Tam00393It most likely was all three, there's a mini avalanche called a slab avalanche that could have occurred causing them to panic and cut open their tent, already suffering injuries making them not think clearly, they could have very quickly and easily died from hypothermia and once they did die animals started eating the soft tissue and by that same time the snow would have shifted. The snow/mini avalanche hypothesis was able to be tested with the animation technology used for Frozen
I've heard so many different theories surrounding this event. The top two that I think are most plausible is the smoke ventilation wasn't done properly in their tent and they were forced out and succumbed to the elements one by one and the other theory is they saw something they should not have and were killed by military personnel in the area.
neither is remotely plausible sorry.If you examine autopsy results 2 of them had internal injuries without bruising strongly suggesting that there was a powerful explosion in cedar tree area which also caused some burn injuries.This has to be also understood in the context of what drove them to leave the tent .These 2 scenarios are most probably connected .The Yakimenko negatives show that something highly odd was happening that night outside ,with "fireball"/bolide witnessed by other groups. across the region
@@sawrasam
"results 2 of them had internal injuries without bruising strongly suggesting that there was a powerful explosion in cedar tree area which also caused some burn injuries"
...Heh?
They had set the tent up several times before so they would know how to properly ventilate it
The military wouldn't have left so many loose ends and if it was that just leaves so many more questions
- why is there an absence of gun shot wounds? After all the military's going to shoot them if they would kill them.
- why did they let 4 of them freeze to death?
- there is no attempt to get rid of the bodies or tent
The sad truth is no one will ever know for sure what actually happened that night
@@Bigcheese1334
"After all the military's going to shoot them if they would kill them."
This was KGB era Soviet Union. They were well versed in making people go into the forever box is multitudes of different ways to avoid suspicion. GSWs tend to make people ask questions.
How such a thing would go down, if it did, is thus:
- Military forces them to surrender
- They're detained
- They're questioned
- While detained they... suffer injuries that don't raise too much suspicion. It was avalanche, tovarisch.
@@matchesburn You give them too much credit if you think they'd bother to be so elaborate. To what end, save face? If they were marked for death, then they were either "enemies of the state", or were "never there". Simple as that.
You know its a banger when youtube pulls out the fact checker
I've been WAITING for you guys to cover this. I remember hearing a story about another group where things went wrong and there was one survivor. Barely. This is the beginning of the theory that Katabatic winds were responsible. I hope you mention this theory. I think it ties things up quite nicely.
We’re gonna get to it in part 2!
@@TheLoreLodge Great!! Looking forward to it!
Name of the incident?
@@dogshake I can't find much info about it on a quick Google search and not knowing the name off the top of my head, apart from it happened on Anaris mountain. All the info online mentions it in relation to Dyatlov, so few articles are only about the Swedish incident. Bedtime Stories went into detail about it in their video on Dyatlov, but I can't speak to their sources. Lore Lodge mentioned it in passing in this video's sequel.
well this is now my favorite Lore Lodge video. this is the most comprehensive breakdown and analysis of the incident that I've seen truly looking forward to part 2 to see what conclusions you draw from the evidence
27:32 The barley could have been food (you can cook it similar to rice) &/or for trading with locals.
BTW ... Your documentary is one of the best I have watched. I have a fascination with this case. So, I have watched and studied it quite a bit. (Like so many of us do.)
Really like the way you decided to divide this in part 1 and 2 and the reasoning behind it
I recommend Archie's Archives for reference on pronunciation. I believe he is a native Russian speaker. He covers lots of stories about Soviet and Russian outdoor disasters. He has covered this as well as the Khamar Daban incident. PS the answer is slab avalanche. Joe Scott gave a good explanation
as someone who watched Devils Pass.... that movie is totally all real and that actually happened... 😂
Wild movie for sure. Nothings impossible i guess
I am from Canada...we have harsh winters here...in the 80's when I was a kid, I've never been kept home from school because of the weather. I also always walked to and from school. The coldest I have ever played outside was -30 C which is-22 F the coldest I walked to school in was -50c which -50f because the 2 scales meet at -40. Believe me when I say, I know how cold cold can get. That is one of reasons I still watch this case after so many years and I am from a completely different country...
hello, 28 year old Russian here and a recent subscriber :) Dyatlov's pass mystery was probably the first case i was really into, i used to stay up late reading about it when i was in high school. in 2021 they made a drama TV series based on this story, and its actully pretty good (however - spoiler - the ending there is tied to a paranormal explanation of the events).
looking forward to part 2 of your video!
By far the best coverage of this on UA-cam. I’ve watched both of these videos several times the past few days. Really hope a part 3 comes out soon with your personal theories.
I've never heard anyone discuss the victims of this incident in such depth. I had no idea one of them was 22, my age. That made me pause for a minute because that's...so sad. She was so Young.
I watched another documentary on the Dyatlov Pass mystery. A criminologist stated that the tent had been cut from the outside. She demonstrated how she came to that conclusion. To understand you should take a tent's tarp material and cut it with a knife. You will understand. There is no way it was cut from the inside.
Hundreds of google translated documents? Nice to know that such communities are helped to a enough of extent to make such stuff easy for us, especially for you to have made this video.
I love how articulated you videos are. The explanation is absolutely phenomenal!
Adin: “so this scary mystery takes place in 1980 in such and such location…… 4 million years ago this location was a primordial lava pit mostly consisting of rocks and steam.
Later as animals evolved the dinosaurs used this area as a feeding ground. When humans first made contact with the area it was a place for them to hunt and gather. There were nomadic tribes through this area for most of history.
Oh ya and in 1970 some hikers went missing here. Thanks for watching!
I am beyond sick and have spent the last two days watching your videos on a cycle. It’s the only thing keeping me distracted. Keep up the excellent work ❤️
Dead Mountain by Donnie Eichar is an amazing book on this mystery. Really delves into the hikers as individuals and the author presents many of the theories as well as his own personal belief. It may have been released before the new evidence came out but I could be wrong. Either way it’s a great read.
I got into this channel a week ago after watching all of Wendigoon and have watched over 30 videos already, this is the first intro that made me put my fingers to my brow and sigh, love your videos though and keep em coming
just listened to a narrated creepy pasta about this. Their explanation was the Nazi " die glocke" accidentally bringing a lovecraftian horror along with it as it traveled through time.
Re: barley. Boiled barley makes for excellent, fuelling gruel for hikes. Source: my dad is an avid hiker and made me eat at least a tonne of boiled barley from a thermos during our hikes since I was a wee lass.
That Mujahideen joke might be the funniest thing i’ve ever heard. It really tickled me man 😂😂
I love your videos! Been binge watching them the last few days! Very much appreciate that you always include information on Native American inhabitants and their experiences! I haven’t seen other channels include that level of information!
I first heard about this story bc of a movie/documentary on tv about it being a yeti that killed them. It always interested me on why these people fled their tent and how they were found.
Oh at last!! Someone with intelligence and a good investigative nose taking on this subject!!! I can't wait for part 2. Nobody else has approached this subject from a truly scholarly perspective. Outstanding so far ...
27:30 regarding why they'd have a bag of barley. Pearled barley porridge is a fairly common food in the area. It's called perlovka/perlovaya kasha.
U tell stories in such an awesome way bro.. thanks for the dope content 👍
None of the proposed causes behind this incident explain all of the different things that happened to the victims. This is probably one of those things that we will never have a concrete explanation for.
@@Nylak-OtterYup, they were able to test it with the animation techniques used for Frozen lol, also things like the radiation detected and eyes missing, many lanterns at that time still used Not-Healthy materials, and soft tissue would have been eaten by birds/scavenging animals
@@Nylak-OtterYou clearly don't know shit about the case or how avalanches damage the human body.
@@dylanfoolerI can simulate you flying by flapping your arms, it still won't ever happen. Until you inspect the intricacies of that study and know the exact math behind the simulation, don't use it as a cop out. It doesn't explain well over half the injuries, including the fact that there was no soft tissue damage and that the woman with her tongue cut out had a fairly significant amount of blood in her stomach (something like a couple of ounces or liters, don't remember exactly)
Go read the autopsy reports and actually inform yourself instead of believing the first person to sound really, really confident that all the math they did and all the circumstances they're assuming for that shelf and the actions of the campers (they would have to cause a significant disturbance to the snow to cause a slab avalanche. The slab would also need to be weak and affected exactly as they ASSUME it was, and everything would have to fit and happen exactly according to that simulation including the windage, density of the snow, overall temperature, exact snow layout, the terrain under the snow, and surely a hundred other things all the way down to where exactly the trees were and whether it was rocks or dirt or dead grass under the snow.
I don't buy it. Their simulation is just that. I can go play 10,000 hours on a flight simulator, I'm still not a pilot and likely still can't actually fly.
@@NoneOfyourbusiness-wi1iy I genuinely do not understand how anyone can expect "the animation used in a children's film proves this is what happened" to be taken seriously by anyone with an IQ above a single digit.
@@mattpace1026 Right?! I could make anything you want happen in a simulation if I had 15 years to play with it! I could make a pig fly based on it's theoretical wings and the span that would be needed to allow it to do so
I could make a meteor hit the planet in such a way that it gently pushed us into the moon. In reality, that would never happen, but if I can play with the inertia and the weight and blah blah
The Dyatlov pass incident has always fascinated me. I remember seeing several TV documentaries about it growing up, and I think it was one of the big factors that lead to me being interested in unsolved mysteries and conspiracy theories in general. So in a way, hearing about the Dyatlov pass incident like 5 years ago on TV was a stepping stone of sorts towards me finding this channel.
Most likely a slab avalanche, running away in panic, injury(and those searching for a place to shelter may have fallen quite a distance in the dark, into a crevasse), freezing temperatures, later animal predation. I grew up thinking every theory imaginable. But looking at the evidence it seems it was an unfortunate, sad, but natural disaster. I think Dyatlov realized the tent was safe and tried to go back for warm supplies. Some members climbed trees to try and see what was going on at the tent and to strip branches for warmth. At least one probably fell from there. As comrades began to succumb to the elements they took their clothes in an attempt to stay warm as they only had on what they slept in.
The facts of the case certainly suggest to me a natural, but still freakish and weird, cause of the disaster that befell the Dyatlov party! I think your theories absolutely sound plausible, and I think I agree that's very likely something like what happened, but even so, that explanation suggest a story every bit as tragic, strange, and frightening as any ghost story: your theoretical interpretation of the facts would make a fascinating based-on-true-events movie that would be every bit as fascinating to me as any sci-fi/horror or Fortean version of the story, and I say that as a fan of ghost stories, science fiction, and UFO and Yeti "woo": I don't believe in that stuff, but enjoy it quite a bit, but can really appreciate a tale of a party that makes a series of bad decisions that eventually add up to a perfectly natural but quite bizarre and freak catastrophe that forces them into a direct struggle with the elements that ends in tragedy.
Why would Dyatlov return to the tent if it was an avalanche? What was there now that wasn’t there when they left if it was an avalanche. Only reason the three attempted to return is because they believed the circumstances at the tent had changed and their situation could be improved. This doesn’t make sense in the avalanche scenario.
@@rh9967 All of their supplies, warm clothes, etc were at the tent. They may have wanted to see what they could salvage. A slip avalanche could have spared most of the supplies.
Right - I understand why avalanche seems the most likely explanation. It just doesn’t make sense that they would return if the tent was covered in snow from an avalanche. The time to retrieve supplies would have been when they first left. Everyone was there - they were probably thinking more clearly and with the help from everyone they could have retrieved boots and whatever else. But they didn’t. By the time they turned around they were probably in the early stages of hypothermia. The only reason they would have turned back is if they believed the tent was still intact and they could easily get to it. They wouldn’t have turned back if they knew they had to still dig the tent out of snow. It doesn’t make sense to me.
@@rh9967 If you hear a noise sounding like the start of an avalanche coming your way, you may panic and go down the mountain. Later, you realize your only chance of survival is trying to forage anything you can from the tent area. But it was too late and they froze to death. Those who didn’t venture back up the mountain might have thought it was already a lost cause and the tent and items were gone.
I’ve been looking forward to you making these videos since I started following you guys!! It was the incident that got me into this sort of content and I found you guys in the process! :) Know it’s gonna be amazing watch, so excited to!
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Lmk you got this, bud!
“This is going to be a two part video”
Me: is watching this on a playlist with three videos
I’ve read and watched just about all I could on the Dyatlov pass incident… at least I thought. This vid does what others I’ve seen have not in that it focuses on the people and who they were rather than just the incident itself. It really humanizes them and despite the strangeness of the incident itself it’s weird to think that yes they were real people not just characters inside of a creepy story. They had there there own lives and people they knew and personalities… just gone under the strangest of circumstances. Hearing descriptions of the hikers really makes the end result feel all the more tragic and confusing, they were just some young college kids, much too young.
Yes, I absolutely agree with you. I've been looking into this topic for 10 years, and now I know such a lot of things about them... I wish to visit Ekaterinburg one day to bring flowers to their graves😢
Wow, super interesting. Thanks Aiden. You’re just making this so special.
I know this is a really famous one and you kind of have to follow views, but I really think you’re about to go through a lot of time and effort just to come to a conclusion that is basically “probably an avalanche quote. Also, the thieves guild marks in Skyrim are more closely based off of American hobo codes. You should absolutely do an episode on the American hobo codes, they are fascinating and a genuine bit of American lore.
Such a good video. I really like how you introduced all the victims and explained their backgrounds, I did not see that in other videos about this tragedy. Subscribed!!
As a Russian student classes being cancelled at -20 is funny cause we go to school and play outside even if it was like -30
I live in a country where if the snow even lightly covers the ground we have a "snow day" off. I once worked w a Canadian, who used to make fun of us for it. He was always..."This is a good day, back home. What are you complaining about?"
This weather sounds a lot like winters in wyoming. We usually hit and stays around -20 plus windchill most winters
Can't wait for part 2!
Love how u gone into detail here mate really well done work best video iv watched so far n iv seen many
Looking forward to your take. I think an avalanche happening is fairly likely considering the attempts to climb that tree, but the folks in the den who got away... That's something else! The burnt socks probably just came from trying to unfreeze their feet with the fire.
PS: Were the missing eyes/tongue located? Was the cut off leg a clean cut, from eg a saw vs being ripped off? Very important questions for part 2!
the eyes and tounges are favourites of the scavengers of the region. they must likely ate them.
There's a lot of "woo" out there attached to this case - and don't get me wrong, I'm a sci-fi, horror, and fantasy fan, and love the woo in that context! - but yeah, what I hear suggests a tragic, weird and freakish, frightening, and very interesting, but probably quite natural and mundane disaster hit the Dyatlov Pass party. Avalanche seems very reasonable to me, I can't help suspecting that something might have gone wrong with the stove - a fire, explosion, or blockage resulting in poisonous fumes - given the emphasis on it in this video, and the the eyes, tongues, and other soft tissues being missing absolutely suggest scavengers to me... it sounds like the bodies were lost up their well into a warmer season with thawing snows with plenty of time, I would imagine, for scavengers to finally be able to make a feast of whatever parts of the bodies they could
The burned socks and other clothing absolutely could have happened after the party evacuated their tent, but my first assumption was that the burns might have happened before the party evacuated the tent, and perhaps was part of the reason for the evacuation: fire, smoke, or explosion within the tent while the party were huddled around the stove sleeping through a blizzard or avalanche seem to me like a pretty darned good reason why the party would wake up in a panic, tear open the tent, and flee... poison fumes from a blocked stove chimney might explain some of the apparently weird behavior of the party after they left the tent in a big enough hurry that they had no time to put on appropriate clothing, and if the stove sustained some sort of damage or otherwise proved faulty or unreliable or dangerous, it could certainly account for why the party chose to start a campfire outside the tent. I didn't really hear anything yet about the condition of the stove when the tent was found after the event, but if there were some sort of explosion, it might explain some of the internal injuries of the party, though an avalanche alone might account for those injuries, I suspect.
I can't help noticing, based on those diary entries, that the party seemed to be bristly, escalating apparently into constant bickering through the expedition, and suspecting that this might be important to the story: they might simply have been working poorly together, and morale and teamwork deteriorated into disaster. I cannot help wondering if maybe their irritability and perhaps irrationality might not be a clue to an escalating problem of some sort, though: what if a malfunctioning stove was leaking fumes into the tent over time, poisoning the group, leading to the party's apparent instability, mistakes being made, and whatever final disaster struck the party at the end? It sounded to me like the stove was actually the invention of one of the party members... a catastrophic failure of the stove might have proven to be some final straw that broke the back of the party's cohesion, fracturing them into a split party that might account for the way the bodies were found in different locations, and perhaps some physical fight between the party members or factions might explain some of those odd physical injuries that suggested the group might have been beaten or clawed up by a "yeti"... again, though, it seems to me that an avalanche is probably sufficient to explain injuries, sudden evacuation of the tent, any theoretical damage to the stove and tent, confusion and disorientation among the group, and so on.
All in all, it's certainly a weird and fascinating case, even if the ultimate explanation is an avalanche or other mundane - if freakish - disaster! And like many other strange cases with probably mundane explanations - like the Mary Celeste case of a yacht found abandoned with food set out as if the crew suddenly vanished - it's absolutely weird fuel for the imagination of anyone as fascinated by ghost stories as I am!
It’s hard to pick a favourite lore lodge video but this one is in my top three without a doubt, we’re even luckier it’s three parts
I can't believe all this time I didn't know about the four bodies in the man-made den. I just heard "blunt-force trauma all throughout their body" and the possibility of an avalanche. Kind of a whole other story when the people with crushed ribs weren't where the avalanche should've been.
Exactly. That one claim--that the four were dead in a constructed snow fort--is news to me and if true upsets the claim elsewhere that they were injured in a fall and their bodies were at the site of that fall. It is unlikely mortally injured parties would build a snow fort or that they could have made it from the site of a fall to a fort a distance away, though quite conceivably Kolevatov could have built one at the site of the fall to try and shelter the injured.
Looking forward to part 2. This story has always fascinated me. I really don't think we'll ever know the truth.
I'm only a few minutes in, but I have to say something. I will be very disappointed if you don't discuss the katabatic wind theory; it's not a perfect answer, but it does make more sense than an avalanche and is rooted in a very similar case.
this story has always terrified me thank you for covering it
Dovahkiin is the theory I'm going with now
I have been WAITING for you to cover Dyatlov! It's the perfect strange story for this channel! I have done some research myself (nothing to this extent) and cannot decide what I believe, so I'm curious to see what you come up with. Off to go watch part two 👋.
Never heard of a yeti attacking them, but I’ve heard a lot of stuff like the military killed them because nuclear testing that was going on in that area or aliens killed them. Bedtime Stories has three videos looking at this and the last part seems to have a pretty good explanation as to what likely has happened. Regardless, this is an eerie incident and it’s unfortunate those 9 passed away the way that they did.
The "yeti" (Almas) was the first explanation i ever heard on this story, but I think also the least likely. It seems to have dropped out of favor in recent years.
I’m like 90 percent sure Bedtime Stories talked about the Yeti.
@@personnelproton Yeah, rings a bell.
Actualy i think that can be.... american people theory planted to european heads. Yes there is maaany stories about almas - Russian (but also Caucasian - the real one, i mean Armenia or Georgia; there also been some version of wild people in Lithuania folklore stories) creatures, similar to Yeti or Bigfoot.
But first - they much shorter, they shorter than humans, like around 150-160 cm. Also most of the stories said - they have red fur, and it's less fur than in Yeti/Bigfoot/even yowie.
Actualy in the village in Armenia, than some part of my family lives there is tons of stories about almas, even from the last couple years. Like they not a fans of cars and throws rocks into them.
I never heard anything about killing humans - but the other way, like humans killing them... plenty of. They short, not very strong creatures - not super agressive. Curiorus? Scared? I read stories about these creatures just been like living around some humans in Siberia, and they just been around. Not attacking anybody.
Also that's a stories, it's not like we got a serious proof of existence. There is that story about Zana the Wild Woman, from Abkhasia, but after genetic test of her descendants - she's more a sex slave, maybe with some disabilities. She's from Black Abhasian, they are descendents of black slaves who been probably left or sell here. Definitive not a alma...
Looking forward to pt2. Always knew some folks went up the mountain and didn't come back but never knew the details.
this video is an example of the kind of videos you need to do more of. more mystery less bashing
I have become so obsessed with your videos!! Thanks for making awesome content!
The coldest my area ever got was when I was in kindergarten, at -40 Fahrenheit. I got annoyed at my mom when she made me wear earmuffs to shovel snow, but I shut up pretty quick when she told me about frostbite lmao
So glad you're finally doing Dyatlov. There's also a game about it, I believe. It was like Khobalt or Kholate or somthing.....
The game is Kholat, from Kholat Syakhl, the name of the mountain that the Dyatlov incident occurred on. It's a pretty good game, when it runs correctly, but is more interesting in making an entertaining game than providing a plausible explanation of events. Worth a play through if you like horror games that have a slower more immersive tone.
I saw a really good video about this a long while ago that points the finger of blame at the stove. If that stove fell over in the night for some reason the tent would fill with smoke and they would have to cut their way out, or open holes to vent the smoke. It would be chaos to wake up to a black smoke filled tent. As for the rest, I remember the explanations being good as well, but I never found that video again due to all the conspiracy videos on the same subject 😢
Are you talking about Lemmino's video?
Both you and LEMMiNO have done an excellent job going over this. Thanks! Also... For the algorithm!!
I watched that Lemmino’s version yesterday. But I listened to an other persons on here and he made it out to be all supernatural.
@@ChampChamp2024 wait who?
They fell for the yetussy.
You pronounced those names like a champ. I can’t imagine what it’s like to read soviet documents throught google translate. I read and listened about the Dyatlov pass for a gazillion times, and yet you made it interesting for me. I think that you got the historical context of this pretty great, so I’m interested what do you have to say about the theories.
Remember, there's always bigfoot.always.
In the soviet union, the bigfoot searches for you!
Wasn't there a video game based on this? For some reason, I thought there was, but very, VERY possible I am wrong.
Always appreciate the amount of research you put into your videos, because it always shows.
Really happy I saw that collab video you did with Wendigoon about the 411 cases. Never regretted subscribing to the Lore Lodge.
There is! Search for it; iirc the fact it’s based on Dyatlov is only implied, so it wouldn’t be in the title. The game just ends with someone entering a tent.
@@hihi-nm3uy Yay! I knew I saw something! Thank you!
they fell for the wendussy
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Excellent job. The video was so informative and interesting. Love your channel ❤❤❤❤❤
So here's a story from a fellow Pennsylvanian. About 3 years ago while I was attending community college one winter I had been contracted by a family friend to shovel out his father's house. Now unfortunately this father of a family frient was and is in his late 80s and is a retired fireman who lives alone after his wife passed. This particular winter at the time had left the town mostly buried with visibility decreased to about 20 feet dureing the day. It had been so cold that my jean pants had frozen long before I was able to walk the 3 blocks to my clients house to shovel out a path from his door to the sidewalk. My only refuge was the community church that had left its doors unlocked. Main downside is that because the doors were unlocked thw wind would blow them open with or without a half inch sheet of ice frozen to the doors.
15:35 lol this past week it was -46f where I live and I was having to drive to work everyday :)
"I can't, although I've tried."
Same, brother. Same.
Upstate New York here, we get weather like that all the time. I remember one day we had to stand outside for the bus but the news was saying to limit the time outside to 5 minutes
Fantastically put together video
I have seen this covered by others but learned more on yours!
I love the history parts find it fascinating esp when it's on Native Americans as being in the UK we have very limited understanding of how their culture/mythology works or even the many different tribes outside the well known ones. A real eye opener and deeply interesting.
In Wyoming school isn’t cancelled until it’s-40 and that’s because the buses won’t start…kids get tossed out to play until -20.