Porsche 992 GT3 Touring vs 991.2 GT3 Touring
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- Опубліковано 2 чер 2022
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In today's video we compare the Porsche 992 GT3 Touring with the 991.2 GT3 Touring!
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The 992 is such a good looking car, but 991.2 is absolutely gorgeous!
992 GT3 Touring makes the old model look old. However, the older model is more involving to drive!!
I have the 991.2 Touring in chalk. I love how raw it is. I also own a 991 speedster and I prefer the Speedster. The Touring is more a track car and the speedster is just so much fun to drive on the back roads with the top down. I will not sell these cars for a long time if ever.
Wonderful taste in. Ars do u have an instant would love to checknout the speedster what spec did u get it in
@@Luke-pb4pc the heritage edition.
@@Luke-pb4pc I too have a wonderful taste in arse.
991.2 touring all day long. It is one of Porsches best efforts ever. Yes even better than the 911R
I think you’re spot on.
991.2 all the way. It’s got so much more character and in my opinion it looks way better than the new car. Add to that it’s rarity and you have a winner.
I own a 992, and while it's a stunning car, the 991.2 has the best-looking exterior of all 911 generations.
2:10 Just have to correct that statement. There is a difference in terms of downforce between 992 touring vs non-touring. Porsche said that the dynamic wing for the touring will have a same downforce to the non-touring at the lowest setting. Meaning that in track mode, the regular GT3 will have more downforce. Also while the downforce might be the same at the lowest setting, the swan neck design will have less drag for the same downforce.
Thanks Thomas. The question is will anyone notice the difference in downforce unless they go to a race track and give the car a hard run?!
@@888mf4 with that philosophy it's better to buy a MB S class !
@@rubioalejo Correct! Hence why I drive an Alfa Romeo 4C as a daily driver. It has 280bhp and only weights 1000kg (dry), so it is a lot of fun even at legal road speeds!! I use my GT3 RS 4.0 as a special occasion car. I don't see the point of driving a car with 500bhp as a daily driver if you live in a city.
This is correct. Same downforce for touring as winged GT3 until you adjust the aero settings on the front splitter & wing to their most aggressive setting. Then it’s 150x more downforce if I recall correctly.
I was searching the comments looking for someone to answer that for me. Thanks
Absolutely love my 991.2 GT3 and I predict the value will rocket 🚀 ❤
Thank you kindly! 🙏🏽
I adore your videos.
Great video Mark! Love that 992!!!
great video. We had our 992 GT3 delivered by last week
Great video, great sound :) I can watch a million videos of gt3s :)
Wow!! Amazing video! Color grading, composition is so nice. I didn’t know you could drive manual so well!
The editing is down to Marc Wheelhouse. But thanks for the compliments Taka! Looking forward to seeing you in Vancouver soon!
He’s using auto rev match.
I own both cars and they are both amazing. I chose pdk on the 992 and plan to keep both of them long term. Porsche: There is no substitute.
what is the real difference, from a suspension point of view, on a real back-road dash..?, asking because the directness of the 992 is a result of the suspension technical set-up(DW) not on the susp. performance. Every review I read said the new 992 touring rides harsher and pointier at the same time while the previous Macpherson strut made the car less darty, also while having a more compliance ride.
Harsher and pointier suspension would be a good thing if you would live in a Swiss or a German land...but, on a bumpy back road, the car would be all over the place and very hard to drive it smooth.
991.2 looks better to my eyes. New car has too many Audi esque features. 992 clearly more capable. As it should be.
Would love to see a similar comparison but then between the 992 & 991.2 Touring both in manual to see which one of them is more engaging from a driving perspective
I have driven a manual 992 GT3 and it's a great car but just too good for the road. You need to be doing silly speeds to really get the best out of it. So it really depends on what you want out of a car. If you are going to the track a lot then the newer car makes more sense. Otherwise, the 991.2 GT3 Touring makes a fine road car.
Nice review! What tyres was the 992 wearing?
Had my gt3 touring 992 couple months & it’s without doubt pure perfection
Great video ❤️🙏👍
Its quite surprising to see the feedback on the suspension of the 992 GT3. Most American and Canadian reviewers pretty much conclude that its just not comfortable and too harsh for daily usage. But British reviewers say even though its stiff it soaks up bumps pretty well and is very usable.
European roads tend to be better overall than North American roads. Maybe that’s a partial explanation?
@@jahblessoneperhaps, but British roads tend to be awful in comparison to mainland Europe’s roads, with the exception of belgium who also has bad roads. Honestly found American roads to be smoother than British roads but i only have 3 months driving experience in Nevada compared to over a decade on British roads. Who knows 🤷🏻♂️
@@robc1014you should try driving on the northern state cos the harsh winter destroys the roads up there.
Great review… would love your opinion between the New GT3 Touring COMPARED to the New 992 Turbo S …… 👍
That's a very good idea....
Unfortunately upgrading the exhaust on the 992 is not going to be nearly as easy or cheap as the 991.2 GT3. With the previous gen, the car had a center section and two side mufflers…a simple center bypass from Sharkwerks, Soul, GMG, etc makes a big upgrade in the sound. Those are
I never touch the exhausts on my Porsche models as I don't want to risk affecting the warranty.
@@888mf4 Depends on what country you’re in, but in the US there is effectively zero risk with a center exhaust delete.
Great video
Thanks Nathan. The 992 GT3 Touring would really suit you. Perfect daily driver. Put your name down for one in 2023.
Mate great review! Can I ask which exhaust you mate has on his 991.2 Touring? And what brand of short shifter is on the car as well? I installed the Numeric short shift on my Touring and love it…..rifle-bolt precision! Keep up the great reviews 👍
Go follow him on Instagram and you can ask him: @unblownflatsix
lovely!
This will be interesting🤩
Hope you found it entertaining and informative
991 exterior with 992 interior would be perfect
Nice mods on that 991. That rear spoiler lip...very nice, I assume the original had been swapped for the spoiler of the design package? They should come with this from the factory I think. looks way more refined compared to the stick on lip that they add to the touring.
So basically 992 GT3 with manual is the thing to go for :)
+1 before it’s too late
always
I think I would have a manual over PDK if it wasn't a daily driver. I would also add an aftermarket exhaust. However I think the 981 GT4 and 981 Spyder sound really good when stock an you don't need any more power for the road.
What color is the 991? Looks so good!
Please i want to see a drag and rolling race between these two 😎
Great video Marky! 991.2 for me - the 992 is HUGE!
Unfortunately, you are very right.
Unfortunately, you are very right.
Here are the dimensional differences.
991 GT3
Length 4545 mm 178.94 in.
Width 1852 mm 72.91 in.
Height 1269 mm 49.96 in.
992 GT3
Length 4573 mm 180.04 in.
Width 1852 mm 72.91 in.
Height 1279 mm 50.35 in.
Difference
1.10 in
0 in
0.39 in
Yeah that’s HUGE 🤣
@@Braydenplaysalldaythe rear arches are the same width but the front axle and fenders are about 40mm wider on the 992.
There's a Porsche club here in SW Florida and Naples, Florida called the Paradise Porsche Club (Groupe) and they're also on Facebook. Last week they did a meet and greet here in Cape Harbour, Florida where they enjoyed a brunch at RumRunners restaurant along the waterfront. There were several very very rare and expensive Porsche 911s including a GT3, 911 Turbo S, Boxster GT4 and many others....They were 12 of them....however this Saturday June 11th 70 of them are meeting on Sanibel Island...at a restaurant. A very beautiful place...look up Sanibel and Captiva island, Florida....looks like an island out of anywhere in the Caribbean, so wild and exotic. 70 Porsches in one parking lot....ouffff I'm going and I'm going to be in Porsche bliss.
I can't find this group on Facebook. Are they on Instagram? Before Covid I used to spend a lot of time in Florida. Check out my review of the 991 GT2 RS on UA-cam.
Touring in pantone296c and manual became my choice
Nice video as always 👌🏻 I liked the manual box in the 991.2 better. Ended up with pdk in the 992 touring
Thanks. Both great cars, just very different
992 > 991 - IMHO for the simple reason that the 991 GT3T looks too similar to a C2S. The 992 nostrils are a fine distinction. Also the 992 wide body is sexy
I think the 992 gt3 (winged version) but without the wing looks better than the 992gt3 touring. And the 991.2 might be the best looking 911!!! Btw great vid!
Thanks
Hey buddy whats the brand of the short shift kit…?
Go follow @unblownflatsix on Instagram and ask him
lots of shots of the same shot here went past the man stood behind the VW passat 3 times lol
991.2 is just a little bit more untamed. That’s a plus and what makes it special. Use a lounge chair car as a daily. The 991.2 is the wild one for crazy fun times🎉
How can you say that the 992 GT3 is less involving due to PDK when you can order it with manual? Also, a bit of rubbish comment to say that the 991.2 version sounds better when it has an after-market exhaust!
Let me start by saying the new 992 GT3 and GT3 Touring are great cars. In response to your point about the gearbox. I originally tested the manual box on the 992 GT3 and didn't really like it. I don't think it suits the car or the engine. Hence we brought a PDK along this time. Furthermore, I think the PDK makes it a much better daily driver. The 991.2 sounds better with or without the aftermarket exhaust. I have driven enough to know. My overall feeling is that the 991.2 GT3 Touring is more involving and all the car you ever need, and I think prices reflect that.
@Baloo Bagheera +1
If you are an owner of 991.2 gt3, should you sell and get the 992 gt3? Or the 991.2 is all the car you ever need ?
If you want a daily driver then the 992 GT3 with PDK is a great car. If you only need a weekend car then the 991.2 GT3 Touring is the one to own.
Not a wing guy so either one would be fantastic 👍👍
2 reviewers have said that the 992.1 GT3 dosen't have the low rpm torque when comparing to the 991.2 GT3. Maybe a 992.1 GT3 Manual vs PDK video is a good idea ?
The PDK wouldn't be a Touring tho since 991.2 Tourings only came in manual.
@@gpb3762 But still a worth while video.
@@gen1c8rs88 agree
I don't think the manual gearbox suits the 992 GT3 models. I think the PDK is a much better option. If you want an involving 911 with a manual gearbox then buy a 997 GT3, 997 GT3 RS or a 991.2 GT3. All great cars.
@@888mf4 no offense, but that’s the dumbest comment I’ve ever read.
you needed to compare to unmodified versions to compare
PDK with Comfort Seats in a Touring... Perfect. Your friend gets it.
Actually no. PDK is made for the track (safer and faster). This is why all RS cars come with PDK only. Manual is made for the road ie. TOURING
You don't get it.
My mate loves his 992 GT3 and uses it daily.
@@seamusmcfitz913 this is the way
Front: 992
Rear and Interior: 991.2
deciding your review and cris harris, i obviously more prefer the 991.2 cause of how it suppose to be build and feel. Which is more civilized version of GT3 not meant to be so aggressive and firm like the 992. So what the difference between the normal 992 GT3 & the touring??. And ofc 991.2 is more rare and prestigious
There isn't a big difference between the 992 GT3 and the Touring version. They are both very capable cars and with PDK you can use it as a daily driver. The new suspension is the biggest difference over the 991.2 GT3 Touring. All of that said, I prefer the 991.2 GT3 Touring and any 997 GT3 RS as they feel much more involving and special. They are not great for daily use but feel more special when you decide to take them out. So I guess you need both!!
@@888mf4 as i thought there's no such a different except for the wing and the downforce in the highest setting. And yeah ofc it's not so involving as the predecessor does. Way too digital than analog even though on paper 992 way more better & advance car then the 991.2 but then again, it's the driver who feel and interact with the car could decide which one is the best and fit the most. Anw great content mate, keep up the good work
992 manual seems like the go. gold dust of course, but ain't nout for free.
Cannot comment on the short shift on the 991.2 as I have not tried it but have never thought it needs one. In my view it does not need a louder exhaust, the standard car has reduced sound deadening and is vocal enough. The 991.2 is so rare in the UK it will always hold an interest and demand though spec dependant.
The 992 is a better car but loses some of the rawness and uniqueness of the original. There will be 100’s if not 1000’s by the time it is replaced and so will settle down in price while the 991.2 will be considered similar to the G series Club Sport (52 UK cars). 🐐
Let’s be honest, both incredible cars . The 991 broke new ground , well the 911 r did 😊. The 992 is probably the perfect 911 to date
I agree with you and hope that I got all these points across in the review. I would strongly suggest you try Eli's 991.2 GT3 Touring as the short shift gearbox is sublime. The exhaust is quite loud with the modification, but that's personal preference I guess.
Given the current supply shortages & production delays. Including ships sinking & the war in Ukraine. The 992.1 GT3 production will be far less than the 991.2 GT3. Cannot speak for the UK, but in the US. Less than 300 tourings have been delivered & the 2022 model year closes out next month. If times were normal, then I’d agree. Porsche would pump out as many as they could sell.
You’re mistaken when you say that the pop up spoiler on the GT3 Touring has the same down force as the fixed wing on the regular GT3. The pop up spoiler on the GT3 Touring reduces lift but doesn’t provide any down force.
No, I think that ge is right. Wingless GT3 has the same downforce as fixed wing in its most neutral position. If you put it in its most aggressive position then it creates a lot more downforce
@@piromantm this is correct.
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Which one is more overpriced?
My guess is that the 991.2 GT3 Touring will be more sought after in years to come. Only 47 RHD cars came to the UK!
@@888mf4 given the current production shortages & manufacturing delays. The overall production run for 992.1 will be far less than 991.2. That is a guarantee. Less than 300 Tourings have been delivered to the US & the model year 2022 comes to a close next month.
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Give me the 992 GT3 Touring anyday.
touring needs back seats
Be careful with the video' sound
Ca you expand on that comment please
How does a wing vs no wing create the same downforce. That doesn't even make sense. It adds more weight, vs no wing if it makes the same downforce then why have the wing?
Think. Science doesn't agree.
You are right, but only at high speeds is there a difference. Anything above 70mph on a UK road is illegal.
Both cars are super great but the 992 is the winner
991.2 GT3 Touring FTW - it feels like a much more involving car and to my eyes a much better looking one as well. I felt the 992 GT3 was very anodyne and yet somewhat twitchy at the same time. Obviously roads contribute to this a lot. Also the interior of the 991.2 and 981/982 for that matter are timeless whereas the 992 interior is a bit of a horror story. I strongly suspect the 991.2 GT series (touring, GT3 and GT3 RS) will go down in history as peak Porsche along with the 982 Cayman/Spyder GT4 RS. In my view Porsche lost their mojo with the 992 - I also suspect they know this.
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its called a PORSHE pronounced PORSHAA not PORCH and the 991.2 is better looking more raw and the only way to get is with a manual plus few produced and it only became available at the end of the run. the 992 available with a PDK & a manual and there will be many more produced so in long run the 991.2 is the one to get
The 992 might be a better car, but for me the 991.2 looks 100x times better. And I think if someone is buying a Touring over a regular GT3, it's all about how about it looks than it's performance or how fast are the Nurburgring lap times.. My dream Porsches are 997.2 GT3 and the 991.2 Touring.
For me the 992 looks 100x times better. Front air inlets on the carbon fibre hood PLUS incredible rear diffuser trump old.
@@pcaryvr the hood is actually what kills the looks for me. The rear end is nice, but I can't get used to the air ports in the hood. I actually think even a regular Carrera looks better or the ones with the aerokit opcional.
I love the 991.2 Speedster. What can be better on a summer's day than putting the roof down and having a GT3 engine behind you!
@@pcaryvr +1. I completely bypassed getting a 991 GT3 because it looks almost identical (sans wing) to a Carrera. I think that is why you hear the 991.2 will look more elegant than the 992.
The 992 GT3 looks purposeful. It finally looks like a car designed by the GT department; rather than a Carrera 4.0. It has a bespoke look that won’t be mistaken for a Carrera. FTW
@@Braydenplaysallday I agree 100%
The 991 is so much better looking!!
That’s because it looks like a base Carrera
There is ZERO chance of me paying more for an older worse across the board car! The 911 has evolved over the years and has just gotten better each time. Why anyone would choose to pay a quarter of a million for this is beyond my understanding. Obviously a brand new car is a far, far safer purchase in terms of faults and condition (also no doubt far safer in a crash too) Engines get better, suspension, brakes, gearbox get better. Speed and control of that is better. You are paying extra for a considerably worse car. All a bit baffling to me?
It’s baffling to you because you obviously got no clue what you’re talking about…
“Worse” 😂. As mark said , they’re incomparable. It’s not worse … it’s different .
Anyone that gave £150k list 4 years ago , and now
Sitting on a £100k tax free profit , will take “worse” all day long 😂
As I noted in my review, the 991.2 GT3 Touring is a very different car to the new model. Hence there are people that like the older model as it is more involving and has a completely different feel to the new model. Both great cars, but so so different now.
There are unlimited aspects of cars e.g. aesthetics, sounds, feels, speed, etc.. You don’t want the older car because perhaps you appreciate the numbers and performances of the new car. However, people value things differently, so you cannot apply your decision making process to everyone.
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Really stupid comparison. The new touring is automatic here. Usefull video
Call me crazy, but I really don't like the looks of the Touring. Something's missing without the wing, even while a regular 911 looks perfectly balanced without a wing. My 2 cents.
I prefer the wing too, but the popularity of the Touring shows that a lot of people don't!!
Nothing to see here, car porn delete. Cars are usually hidden on here, quick snap shot! that's it.
Odd comment
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@@888mf4 nothing odd about this comment, you have two beautiful porsches. Share the beauty, show the exteriors the curves lines etc. Couple minutes walk around the exterior full camera shot, won't hurt.
Gray, silver, white and black cars are sooooo boring!! Sport cars should come in vivid colors!
I totally agree!
992 looks weird
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Foolish .... get the manual 992 and go aftermarket with the exhaust ... what a waste of time
Get a mic dude
991>992
I absolutely love both of these cars! I agree with you though that the 992 is a better overall machine to the 991. The other thing I noticed and love is your timepiece. Is that a genuine Richard Mille or something else? 👍😍😎
Sorry, but you're telling nonsense.
Of course the downforce of the "standard" 992 GT3 rear spoiler is bigger than what you get with the "folding" rear spoiler of the 992 GT3 Touring model.
It's simply a much bigger wing on the base GT3 and it's at a better position too.