CZ P-10S Range Review and Comparison
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- Опубліковано 24 лип 2024
- CZ P-10S close look and range review. We also put it side-by-side with 8 other guns in the crowded ultra-compact pistol class: Glock 26, Glock 48, HK P30SK (LEM); Kimber R7 Mako, Sig P365XL, S&W Shield Plus, Taurus G3c and Taurus GX4. How does the P-10S stack up against the competition?
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2) All firearm handling is done by a trained professional in a controlled, safe environment and all shooting is done on a dedicated, safe shooting range;
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5) The firearm(s) shown in this video are completely stock and are not "previously modified" firearms.
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ive been carrying the p10s for two years and really enjoy it. Shoots well and ez to conceal, also trust cz to make reliable firearms.
Great Presentation! Very organized with detailed information, I wish more of the gun reviews on UA-cam were this well made!
The GV50, thank you for watching and for your very kind compliment.
Palmetto State Armory's prices lately for the P10 series (both S & C) make an already fantastic pistol a real no brainer.
Really enjoyed the video, very informative and the comparisons we're on point. I was glad to see you remembered the trigger, I have enjoyed all your videos this far, Thanks.
Mark, thank you for watching and for your comments.
I just bought this firearm and this video is the reason I went against other options. Thank you for you VERY informative video.
Thank you very much for watching.
my current carry is a P10S, milled by Jagerwerks, running a HBI Theta trigger, running a 507c v2, and tlr7a, all running Henning Baseplates (ive got 2 hyve on order) in a custom holster. LOVE that thing!
Thank you for watching and adding the info.
Did it pinch your finger with the original base plates? What about with the henning and hyve base plates?
@@GrandRoyaLBassMan ive pinched my fingers on the henning baseplates, havent done it with the hyve yet.
That's a lot of running. Take a breather.
This may not be the newest or hottest ccw option out there but considering they are sub 400 now it may very well be the best value!
I picked my P10S over the p365xl & would do it EVERYTIME my p10s is Borinly ACCURATE & NEVER had the first Hiccup with it... IMO. the CZ Line is a GLOCK that GLOCK didn't make!!!
1000 percent!!!!
You picked the right one! Had VP,PPQ AND CZ. KEPT THE CZ
Thanks for watching.
Thank you for the extensive review!
Thanks for watching.
Great video comparison the dimension to the others gun,love it
Thank you for watching.
I bought the non-optic ready P-10S OD green lower/frame at a really good price. I installed the medium back strap and a rubberized talon grip. Happy with mine, shoots well and it's super accurate. It does not fit my Bianchi Glock 19/23 leather holster, but it does fit my Springfield XD40 service model Winthrop leather holster.
Matthew, thank you for watching and adding your thoughts.
Finally someone who gives the facts and a fair comparison and doesn't feel it nessecery to waste more ammo in the first minute of the video than most of us see in a year.
Thank you for watching and for your kind comment.
Excellent video, sir. Thank you.
Thank you for watching and commenting.
Maybe the P10S' bothersome weight gain⚖️ can be attributed to it's slightly beefier barrel, barrel lug and feed ramp when compared to it's aforementioned counterparts? 🤔
That very well could be it. Everything about a pistol is a tradeoff, weight being one concern. Thanks for watching and commenting.
I own 76 guns… a wide variety…
Se, glock. Sig, ruger, bergara, mossberge, Winchester, Springfield, Tikka, Canik… and several others. I have a Cz 75 b, a Cz shadow orange 2, a czp09, and a Cz p10c.. I also own Cz rifles. IMHO.. after 100s of hours training ,, tens of thousands of rounds I will take a CZ hand gun as my duty carry over any other all day any day hands down… why?
Accuracy, ergonomics, reliability, boars axis, recoil, sight alignment, trigger!!
Rifle, Tikka!!!
Thank you for watching and commenting.
I actually like the weight of the P-10s it helps to mitigate recoil I’m used to carrying a P-01 so it’s a little lighter than that
Thank you for another well done and informative video. It is a nice pistol but it wasn’t for me. Some of the comments were pretty harsh on my video when I stated that it wasn’t for me. I look forward to reading the comments on yours. Cheers!
Comments from loyalists are often harsh to anything that doesn't favor their chosen brand, but so far they haven't been bad. It will be interesting to see what comments I get when I post the HK P-30SK video. Spoiler alert: I like it better than the P10-S.
Great video and great shooting! One point - when you compared the Shield Plus (which I have as well) you have the 13rd magazine in it not the 10.
Hmmm.....I'll take your word for it. Thanks for watching.
I checked out the comments after the vid to see if anyone else noticed that.
Nice shooter and gets the job done, now if it carries well . I like the size in that it's similar to the HK VP9SK. Nice pistol Great review 👍😎
It does carry well and it shoots great, though it is heavier than the competition. Thanks for watching.
@@RidersRange heavier? Good Lord what a ridiculous irrelevant comment.
@@Sifo_Dyas loaded weight does matter to many people for a concealed firearm.
@@RidersRange sure, some people even prefer heavier. It's ridiculous how you're desperate for content and the best you can come up with is a postal scale to make ridiculous comparisons and somehow think you're insightful to knock a gun for being 2 oz heavier than another. You're a hack, dude.
Thanks for an interesting video. I've decided on the Shield Plus cut for the Holosun 407K for my regular carry, though I occasionally carry my ruger lcr in .327 federal magnum. My HD pistols are the ones I shoot the best, i.e. Wilson EDC X9, Staccato P/C2 or my Sig Legion P229. I could let go of any of my other 20 pistols, but I think these will be with me till I cross the Jordan. Thanks Rider and great shooting as always.
Steve, once again I thank you for watching and commenting.
Nice review of the S.
Thank you for watching.
I’ve got the P10F and P10C , my favorite next to m&p m2 , 0 failure to feed or ejections so far since 2018 and thinking to add the P10S soon
Thanks for watching and adding your thoughts.
Nice review! Of the several others you compared to, which has the lowest bore axis and was the most pleasant shooting?
Bore axis is not the issue that many make it out to be, unless it is extreme. For this class of guns, I prefer the HK P30SK or VP9SK over the P-10S, mainly because the triggers make shooting more pleasant. Bore axis is pretty close on the HK guns, as well as the P-10 and even the Glock 19.
Great review again…I prefer my Shield-Plus or VP 9sk
The Shield Plus and the VP9SK are certainly both good options. While I do like the P-10S, I'm disappointed in the weight. Thanks for watching.
Good shooting gun, plus, it had to have a good shooter behind that trigger, good job.
Thank you for watching and commenting.
I just got a cz ts2 first CZ and jeez what a gun.
That Tac Sport is a great gun. I shot one, but have never owned one. Thanks for watching and commenting.
Could you please share the info for your aluminum pinky extension, I really like it and looking to get some for mine, thank you.
I bought those off the CZ-Parts website.
I dont know if I may have missed it or maybe you haven't made a video about trigger control and accuracy because hitting 50 yards with ease with a subcompact gun is impressive and no red dot.
awoke one, thank you for watching and for your kind compliment. I haven't done any videos on technique or accuracy - yet. Maybe someday.....
@han0509 I currently run the HBi 15% reduce striker spring on my P10c and it's about a hair under 4lbs, that thing is beautiful and does help with accuracy plus the ergos.
Excellent review. Where did you get the nag base plate for the standard magazine? I have large hands and need the extra real estate for my pinky.
Ed, if I recall correctly, I got the mag base plates from CZ Parts.
@@RidersRange thank you.
Great gun I have a sig Romeo 1 on mine Only things I don’t like is my pinky finger hangs off flush fit mag and I shoot my p10 c better even with iron sights. But cz make fantastic guns. Can’t go wrong with cz. Accurate and dependable with great ergonomics. Every one loves cz grips
Marcus, thank you for watching and adding your thoughts on the CZ.
Marcus, I agree with you on the CZ ergonomics, more so on the 75-series guns, but even the P-10S fits my hand very well. Thanks for watching.
Nice review, thanks! Love my P10S but my favorite holster for all is the DeSantis Mini-Slide. The black leather OWB holster for a Glock looked like that holster and the CZ fit perfectly. Was that a Glock 26 DeSantis Mini-Slide holster?
The base plates can easily be 3d printed if you know how or someone that does
As you mention the P-10 S isn't your favorite of this particular segment, what do you like better?
For that class of gun I prefer the HK P30SK (LEM trigger), or even the VP9SK.
Good video as always, probably will not buy a p10s. I took my optic mounted sig p320 x5 legion to westland for consignment yesterday, broke my heart. My shadow 2 just gets more range time. One of my edc is my cz 2075 rami, 3.1” barrel and shoots very accurate. 25.9 ounces compared to 22.7 ounces for my 45 acp m&p shield. I can feel the weight difference when pocket carrying. Can do!
Will, thanks for watching and commenting. It's a shame you are selling the P320, but I certainly understand. And the RAMI (now discontinued) is certainly a very nice carry option. (And I still remember that the difficult projects, the SeaBees do right away. The impossible projects take a little longer.)
The profit on those magazines must be off the charts! The profit on those optics plates must be astronomical!!!!
You're probably correct.
Nice, I enjoyed shooting Dan's
Thanks for watching.
I'm surprised that CZ doesn't have a pinky mag extension available for this.
There are a few out there right now that help a lot
@@kevincook5004 And some come at a significant cost, taking advantage of the scarce availability.
Thank you
Thank you for watching.
Where did you get the extended magazine base plate that you have in most of your review. The short grip is my only complaint with the gun. Other than that it shoots and carries great.
I ordered all the mag base plates - pinkie and extended - from cz-parts.com.
@@RidersRange OK Thanks
Not very knowledgeable on concealed carry pistols but I do see quite a few guys having good success with full size P-10 in USPSA Carry Optics. Good trigger and CZ accuracy at speed in match shooting make me want to try one. If you were to compare a Canik and a P-10 I would enjoy hearing your thoughts. Thanks By the way, your 50 yard shooting is most impressive.
Thinman, you prompted me to get my Canik TP9 Elite SC out of the safe and put it side-by-side with the P-10S. Hmmm...very comparable in size. I reviewed the Canik a while back (de-monetized by UA-cam with no explanation), but I may just have to run them together and do a quick comparison. Thanks for the idea. And thanks for watching.
I'd be interested in your thoughts as well. Really enjoy your reviews.
I have the Canik SC and the P10S. The P10S fits my hand like a dream. The Canik feels awfully top heavy to me, am going to buy a brass backstrap to help even out the weight.
Could you lost the mag extensions you bought?
I bought a couple Hyve extensions for the P10S for 15 round mags, really like them.
@@stephanie_beth I presume you mean "list"? I bought everything off cz-parts.com: aluminum +2; polymer +2, and aluminum "pinky" extension.
LOL yes, meant list.
Thanks for the information.
Love my CZs
vz52,, 457Lux, P-07 SR, P-09 SR, P10F OR SR.
My other plastic pistols are Glocks and Walthers , H&K
PDP & VP9 are ergonomic grip Kings.
Male, 72, New Hampshire.
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Thank you for watching.
Its made from a true service handgun design It may be shortened but it will still be chunky, the same applies to the G26.
Thank you for watching.
I have the p10 s but mine does not have the optic ready option any ideas for adding an optic
You may be able to find a dovetail mount to replace the rear sight, but it's not the ideal option. The better option is to have the slide milled for an optic.
Questions and Comments: How important is to you? With cooler temps, I’m back to carrying one of my S&W 686+ revolvers with a speed loader. I’ll sometimes carry a 642 in my jacket pocket while driving, because my Miata makes drawing from the hip a little difficult. You mentioned the slide stop, and I was wonder if you run a gun dry before reloading. I watch the Police Activity channel on UA-cam, and some officers change mags after the first volley, and others wait for the gun to run dry. Thanks for Sharing! 👍👍👍👍🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Frank, as always, thank you for watching and commenting. I doubt I'll carry the P-10S much, if at all. My go-to will still be my Wilson EDC X9, or Staccato C, maybe even the C2, but the shape of the grip on the C2 makes it less concealable than the others. I also carry a 642 in my jacket pocket in the winter when I'm driving.
As to reloading, it depends. I have this unconscious habit of counting my rounds, so when I'm running the gun, I generally reload before running it dry, but I train both ways, just in case.
@@RidersRange I’m the same with counting rounds. It’s a habit that I somehow picked up, and can’t shake. Even when other people shoot, I count their rounds. That would be understandable if I counted the number of times I chew food and so on, but I don’t.
Do you think there’s a quality difference between the United States and the Czech Republic? Great video
When it comes to CZ firearms, I don't see any difference. Otherwise, it may depend on the manufacturer and their quality control. Thanks for watching.
I believe the 10s cannot be imported due to its size and therefore, the 10s we can buy in US is only the US made ones.
@@rich1958 I bought a P10-s last week and it says Made in Czech Republic on the left side near the end of the barrel.
Underneath, on bottom near front, it reads "CZ -USA Kansas City, KS."
@@teller1290 mine too, so where was it made???
nice presentation but I'll still go with the VP9sk.😂
I agree. But I had to try this one. Thanks for watching.
Good, Thx
Thank you for watching.
The extension mags , where did you get them from?
I got those from CZ-Parts dot com.
@@RidersRange p10 f mag fits
Heavy = GOOD QUALITY LESS Recoil
My vp9 needs to be treated like a queen so it wont jam after a few hundred rounds... my czs not so much.
Unusual for a VP9.
@@RidersRange … ….would you consider doing a review on the CZ Phantom? Full size polymer on the 75B platform and my fav handgun!!!! Pretty please?
Did you ever had any malfunction issues with your P10S!
I have not had any failures or issues with the P10S. It is as reliable as a Glock, but then again, the CZ P10 series is what Glock SHOULD have been. Thanks for watching.
I don't think you could go wrong with either one.
I agree. Thanks for watching.
Good cz p10s
Thanks for watching.
You and The Firearm Guy using the same range now?
Dan does film on my range on occasion.
If the HKs are out of the budget (maybe $400-450), is the P-10S a solid option? I know it's a bit heavy, but it sure does feel good in the hand! I appreciate your reviews and the structure and thoroughness of your videos.
Yes, it is. But this was asked 5 months ago. Might want to consider the Stoeger STR 9MC or the Grand Power Q1S instead. Just a thought if you're still looking or maybe wanting to add.
As for the 10S - one can fit the 10F 15 and 19 round mags with a NULL sleeve from Variant tech.
@@kevinrtres I ended up buying a Glock 26 and love it. But I’m actually back on the market for something thinner-maybe a Walther PPS M2 or Glock 42/43 or P10M.
I don’t think the pinky finger ia important at all. You’re supposed to use your left hand. I prefer a 2 finger grip. The difference between 6 fingers and 7 is nil.
That's what a lot of folks think, though the top trainers - the real guys, not the posers - understand the importance of the little fingers of each hand. But thanks for watching and commenting.
@@RidersRange No. I'll stick with what I said.
hi, what glock holster will fit cz 10s, thank you in advance
My P-10S fits nicely in a couple holsters that were made for a Glock 19, as long as the holster doesn't have a safety strap on it.
@RidersRange Thank you God Bless you
@@RidersRange I also subscribed 😊
lots
How is the trigger?
Too bad you didn't watch the entire video. Yes, it is a rather long video, but it had a lot of valuable info. Discussion of the trigger came at 18:05. Chapter breakdown is available in the video description.
@@RidersRange You ruined your scathing sarcasm! It was so well-deserved!
How can I stop shooting low left?
Lots and lots of dry practice and ball and dummy on the range.
Finger placement on trigger is key. If the gun is actually too small for your hand, the pad of your finger won't be on the trigger. Concentrate on pulling trigger straight back towards you and not to the side.
What is price and what is a good price
Occasionally I see pre-owned P-10S for under $300. New ones can be had for around $400. Anything over $450 (US Dollars) is a rip off.
POA = POI or combat sighting?
Different guns may be sighted for different holds. I prefer POA=POI, rather than six-o'clock hold or "combat" hold.
Me too i prefer POA=POI. Unfortunately my PO9 is combat sighted thats why i asked as this is my 2nd CZ which i havent got yet due to our strict policies. Being in a country where us owning a gun is a privilege 😀 . Thanks for the reply. Stay safe!
I heard CZ has now discontinued the P-10 S. Is this true??
The P-10S is still on the CZ website, so I presume they are still making them.
They have discontinued the NON slide cut model - they will only produce slide-cut models
@SoloDallas, Many manufacturers are going that route. Thanks for the update.
@@SoloDallas i thought it was the other way around? they discontinued the OR variant?
@@rabbivj OR is still available....now
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Thanks for watching and helping the algorithm.
S&W M&P 2.0 3.6 compact vs CZ P-10 S, which one?
Hmmm....I just picked up the M&P 2.0 Compact, but it has the 4" barrel. Maybe I'll include the P10S as a comparison when I do the 2.0 review.
Still love it???
The P-10 series is what Glocks should have been, but I prefer to carry my Staccato C, or Wilson EDC X9.
@@RidersRange Those are Way out of my price range :)
Don't worry, I like long winded if it isn't just repeating info. Maybe I should expand into polymer cz's.... I just prefer steel, then alloy, polymer last. Just so few steel framed pistols... thank you, Harley
You know I'm still basically a 1911 guy, but it's nice to sample a wide variety of carry options. Thanks, as always, for watching and commenting.
@@RidersRange yes. Sooner or later I will show you my collection. Including my cz 97bd
Springfield Hellcat and Sig P365 pretty much changed the game. These two guns made all other boat-anchors pretty much obsolete in terms of size/weight to capacity ratio.
Good comparison review nevertheless.
Thanks for watching and commenting.
Yes, but with that size, you get significantly better shootability. None of the super slim micro 9's can compete with the P-10s when it comes to actually shooting, but they are definitely easier to conceal.
There's a tradeoff to everything, I guess!
I shot the Hellcat Pro, which I really wanted to like, next to a Shield Plus and the Hellcat was way more snappy and less accurate than the shorter Shield Plus. I'd easily take the Shield Plus over the Hellcat and I bought the 15rd magazine for the Shield Plus so capacity is the same. Also just ordered the P10S which I should have this week, which by all accounts should shoot as well or better than the Shield Plus. Definitely not "obsolete boat anchors".
Bigger guns are better to fight with.
This is as small as I go.
I owned this gun, hated it. Sold it to partially fund a 1911, much happier now.
I'm with you on that. What 1911 did you get, or are you planning to get?
@@RidersRange It's a Dan Wesson Vigil CCO .45. I'm quite happy with it from the sitting around playing with it phase. It'll be a week before I can shoot it unfortunately.
Nathan, good choice. I reviewed the DW CCO (not Vigil CCO) in Part 16 of my Great Affordable 1911 Series. There are only a couple minor differences between the CCO and the Vigil CCO, but I really like the CCO - or any Dan Wesson, for that matter. Thanks for the update.
@@RidersRange Your CCO video is why I'm watching your channel. :) Thanks for the videos Rider.
What did you hate about it?
is that a cctv on your head?
That’s a Polaroid video recorder.
Complaining about the weight, only from the standpoint of comparison to the weight of other guns, is ridiculous. Is the gun too heavy for you? For ANYBODY? Does the weight affect your accuracy? Does it affect ANYTHING? Just wasted minutes on a UA-cam channel.
Sorry you were disappointed with my review. A lot of folks like to know the weight comparison for concealed carry pistols.
@Rider's-Range I like to know the weight in comparison to others models. This guy's just being weird.
@@patrickmckowen1154 right. 🙄 What's better?
Weight is a significant factor to lots of people when choosing a concealed carry weapon. Any gun worth buying is going to feel good in the hand and gun shop, but if it's too heavy to carry comfortably, people may stop carrying it. This is useful information.
@@mlevy76 sure, the weight is, but the guy complained about the weight without giving a single reason why.
WOW, whaddaya know? Another UA-camr doing a glock review while calling it a review of some other make. For that I give a thumbs down.
Aww, come on, Mick. Don't be so harsh. Yes, it is "Glock-like", but with a much better trigger and better ergonomics. But thanks anyway for watching and commenting.
How do you have a Glock and a competitor and not compare them when the video says review *and* comparison in the title? I gave it a thumbs up to hopefully counteract your persnickety self.
@@RidersRange Great review. I own the P10-S and some Glocks. I like the P10-S better than my Glocks. I don't consider it Glock-like, other than it's better looking, more comfortable, and CZ quality for less than a Glock. Mick Wells, I give you a thumbs down.
Thumbs down for your comment.
had most of the listed competitors.... w/ SIGs tarnished track record and refusal to just add a manual safety on all or trigger safety sorry sh*t review imho Glock HK or CZ has to be the way to go now the quality of fit, finish and value for CZ beats SIG
Thanks for watching and commenting.