The Complete SPIDER-VERSE Timeline + How It Links to the MCU
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- Опубліковано 10 чер 2024
- The Spider-Verse timeline is one of the most daunting challenges I've ever come across while creating videos, but one of the most rewarding. Sit back, relax, and enjoy how we've come to discover how the Spider-Verse is connected to the MCU.
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0:00 Introduction to the Spider-Verse Timeline
2:10 E-616B: Peter B. Parker’s Timeline
3:27 E-65: Gwen’s Timeline
5:01 Dimensional displacement; not temporal displacement
6:45 Miguel O’Hara can NOT see the future
7:50 E-1610: Into the Spider-Verse Timeline
9:04 E-1610: When did Peter Parker die?
10:40 E-8311: Caught in a Ham
11:00 E-1610: Across the Spider-Verse Timeline retcons
12:09 E-1610: Retconning a whole timeline
13:56 The Sliding Timeline
17:21 E-199999: How the Spider-Verse connects to the MCU
21:53 Why don’t all characters glitch?
22:40 Canon Events and Spider-Man’s importance
23:49 AOC and Finale - Фільми й анімація
Hi guys! I hope you enjoy the video! If you do, please consider sharing this around online. Long live the timeline! 😊
I would love to see a Spider-Man vs. The Sinister 6 movie where each member is from a different universe & their goal is to wipe out every Spider-Man across the Spider-Verse (similar to the finale of the Spider-Man 1994 series). The only way to stop The Sinister 6 would be 12 Spider-Men from across the Spider-Verse teaming up to stop them. The 12 would be Toby, Andrew, Tom, Miles, Peter B., Gwen, Noir, Peni, Ham, Pavitr, Hobie, & Margo. We could finally get some of these characters in live action, & we could see different art styles used for Toby, Andrew, & Tom.
I know it’s a HUGE project. But It’d be cool to see an updated MCU timeline that includes every Spider-Man movie, Videogame, & show that was shown in ATSV.
That would be a massive project. Maybe one day. Perhaps after Beyond the Spider-Verse.
I mean, every single one of those universes are technically part of the MCU multiverse, so all of those are different universes in the multiverse to my understanding. Just like Tobey Maguire's and Andrew Garfield's. Even though they don't really matter, they are necessary if you want to watch the entire MCU.
@TopDiggerYT 🤷🏻♂️ if that’s how you wanna look at it I guess
So what you’re saying is that Across the Spider-Verse is so good that it made Morbius make sense. 💀
Well when you put it like that…
It made _one scene_ of Morbius make sense. Let's not get too hasty. ;)
Two other examples of sliding timelines in audio/visual that you might find interesting:
1) The Venture Bros. Despite debuting in 2003, the show is always set in the present day. Over the show’s 20-year run, only ~3 years pass in-universe.
2) The Simpsons. This is a wild example simply because the show has been on for nearly 40 years. Homer has gone from being 39 in the 90’s to being in college in the 90’s to now being a tween in the 90’s.
Both are great examples actually. Thanks for sharing
I love Venture Bros!
I’ve always had a theory that the Simpsons is a multiverse and each episode is just picking up with a Simpson family in a universe and not necessarily following along with the exact same family in the exact same universe. But the sliding timeline idea is also very interesting
It sure is intriguing that Spider-People are seemingly the most important figures in the Marvel Cinematic Multiverse.
Right? At least that’s how Across the Spider-Verse makes them seem.
It does seem that way, but Across the Spiderverse shows how every figure is important
@@Geekritiquemore or less they are in every universe or faction of the marvel distribution properties spiderman is the reason everything happens. He was the reason super heroes and marvel in general are so popular now the mcu really started with him and the old cartoon spiderman started with his name in branding and in continuity. The Spider-Men are different and exist differently
I also noticed that they pushed ITSV into 2021. Even tho that movie & Venom 1 both say that it takes place in 2018. So it didn’t make sense. But your explanation of the sliding timeline cleared that up for me. Great video & great explanation.
That’s a good point, venom does say that. But yeah, it has to fall into the Sliding Timeline. That’s the only way to make sense of it.
Wouldn’t expect anything less from you man, you delivered HARD on this! I never even CONSIDERED the sliding timeline, mindblowing!!
Aww man, thank you so much. I really appreciate this.
I've followed your channel on UA-cam and Twitter and this is by far the best uploaded so far, alongside the MCU ones. Can't wait for the entire Marvel Multiverse timeline with FOX, MCU, Sony & animation franchises.
I’m so happy to hear that you enjoyed it. I can’t wait to do a full multiversal timeline.
We just have to wait and see if Deadpool 3 makes the FOX X-Men universe canon to the MCU.
@@TopDiggerYT It pretty much will. All Sony franchises are canon, and Fox has been hinted through WandaVision and Dr Strange MOM, so Deadpool 3 will be the one to deliver.
Amazing video! Hopefully the timeline change could be cleared up with Beyond the Spider-Verse
I hope so too! Thanks for watching! Glad you liked it.
More brilliant work Dakota! Finally became a patreon so I could get the updated timeline png...sorry it took so long!
Thank you so much! And dude, no worries whatsoever.
Your videos are such high quality! You really deserve way more subscribers.
That’s what I keep telling YT
Another thing to note in the timeline is that all the spider people stories have nexus and canon events that actually happen before ATS. The first one is most probably when Peter of E1610 gets zapped by the collider and creates all the variants of Spider-Man. The others include, Venom getting dragged into the MCU, Miles getting bit, Gwen escaping from E65, Miles saving Inspector Sign (have no idea if I spelt it right), Strange messing with the spell with poor communication skills to Peter, Peter two and three getting dragged into the MCU and Miles of E42 becoming the Prowler.
Another thing to consider and would make a theory video on, is Miguel O’Hara, Kang the Conqueror.
When Peter gets pushed into the Collider, he doesn’t create other Spider-People, just opens a portal where they’re all tangentially connected between universes. That said, your head’s in the right place!
You should also add other timelines into your timeline that are apart of the Spider Verse like the PlayStation games, Spectacular Spider-Man, and the classic series to name a few spider verse cameos.
My rule with my MCU Timeline is I only add timelines that directly intersect with the MCU.
@@Geekritique ah ok. That makes sense. Hopefully at some point they do intersect
Damn, what a good video. Really detailed and informative! Thank you very much!
Thanks for your comment, Gustavo! I’m really glad you enjoyed it.
Perfect! I love your timeline videos :)
Thanks so much! Glad you like them!!
I would love to see a Spider-Man vs. The Sinister 6 movie where each member is from a different universe & their goal is to wipe out every Spider-Man across the Spider-Verse (similar to the finale of the Spider-Man 1994 series). The only way to stop The Sinister 6 would be 12 Spider-Men from across the Spider-Verse teaming up to stop them. The 12 would be Toby, Andrew, Tom, Miles, Peter B., Gwen, Noir, Peni, Ham, Pavitr, Hobie, & Margo. We could finally get some of these characters in live action, & we could see different art styles used for Toby, Andrew, & Tom.
That would actually be nuts lol but amazing 🤩
Phenomenal job bro!!! I didn't even think of the fact that the Spider-Verse films (at least in Miles' Universe) are experiencing a sliding time like the actual comics in the Marvel Universe and given how those films actually do try and be a COMIC BOOK in film form so sliding timeline actually make perfect sense (even if the concept is the most comic book thing to ever exist 🤣) and I love your MCU connection theory because it makes sense and it is a much better way to connect the two films franchises into one Multiverse and I believe that's the intention of the Spider-Verse filmmakers too which is clear thanks to the branches from Loki. Once again amazing work bro!
I’m thrilled you enjoyed it! You’re the biggest Spidey fan I know, so your praise means a lot! Thank you.
@@Geekritique 🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾
Fantastic video!! Kept me intrigued the entire time! Loved the amount of work put into finding every small detail and coming up with a very valid explanation as to how the timeline retcons work. Definitely one of your best!!
One question though, at the end with the timeline graphic and the MCUs timeline being 1 year ahead, would it make more sense to (in a chronological rewatch scenario) to watch it with the 2 timelines as if they were matched up (as in ATSV before Endgame) or as it's laid out here, with ATSV fitting right between Shang-Chi and TFATWS?
Currently all I can say is ITSV has to occur after Loki and before No Way Home, and ATSV has to occur after No Way Home. However other ways that falls in line with the MCU is where it gets messy.
But thanks so much for watching dude, I appreciate you hyping up the video over the past few weeks for me. No lie, those little things keep me going when I’m in too deep on a project 🤣
@@GeekritiqueAbsolutely! You're without a doubt one of my favorite content creators simply due to the amount of work and dedication and clear passion you put into them so I knew this one was gonna be 🔥
Thanks bro, seriously appreciate that.
5:52 - Pavitr has a "Diwali 2016" poster in her room.
Plus, during the battle there is a banner with a QR code.
It's definitely 21st century.
Good point. I chose to ignore the date featured because the year date was unreadable past the first two digits, but I agree.
Excellent video, as always. I expected you to give me a lot of think about and you have. You consider this so deeply and you analyse the details so closely than I’m confident you’ll be able to answer some of the questions I have about the mechanics of the Spider-Verse because, in considering your points together, I can’t make sense of it all. Hopefully what I’m about to say will make sense.
We know that the Spider-Verse is synonymous with the Marvel Cinematic Universe’s Multiverse, so that means that each Spider-Verse has diverged from the Sacred Timeline, rather than being parallel universes that exist in their own right? Yet that wouldn’t have happened until the demise of He Who Remains caused those timelines to start branching retroactively. But Loki wasn’t released until after Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse, or any of the media depicting the Spider-Verses included in the Spider-Society. So how were we able to observe those universes if they hadn’t started existing at that point, chronological to the Sacred Timeline? Or do they not branch from the Sacred Timeline, despite the Arachno-Humanoid Poly-Multiverse appearing to follow the same model introduced in Loki?
And if O’Hara founded the Spider-Society, did he name the Earths? Because if he did, his own numbering system is inconsistent. He numbered his own Earth 2099 and Stacey’s Earth 95 (so Stacey presumably became Spider-Woman in 1995?), yet he numbered Morales’ Earth 1610? Why? And if the Spider-Verses did branch from the Sacred Timeline, why does O’Hara call that Earth-199999 and not Earth-1 or Earth-0? (I am aware that the writers are using the same numbering system from the comic books but there doesn’t seem to be a reason for it in the story.)
If the Spider-Verses do diverge from the Sacred Timeline, then Earth-2099 diverged from the Sacred Timeline in its 2099, with O’Hara being a variant of whatever version of O’Hara will exist in the Marvel Cinematic Universe in 2099? In other words, if O’Hara and Morales were to both travel back in time to “year 0” in their own respective Spider-Verses, would they not end up together, because both Spider-Verses branched-off the Sacred Timeline and therefore share the same common past? (Like in Back to the Future - if you could hop between the three versions of 1985 and travel back in time in all of them, you’d end up in the same version of 1955, regardless of which version of 1985 you were travelling back from?)
But all that raises another question. If the Spider-Verses have branched-off the Sacred Timeline, they’re not exactly running parallel to each other. So it’s not as though you could pinpoint a moment in one timeline and match it with whatever point is parallel to it in another timeline? It seems messier than that. If they were parallel universes that exist in their own right, then the mechanics of the Alchemax reactor could be explained as it simply bisecting the other timelines, rather than zig-zagging from one to the other? That would explain how Spiders from different respective periods in their own timelines can all be pulled-in to the same point on Earth-1610? But it seems that’s not how it works? So is it more random than that? It’s pulling variants from across timelines that have all diverged from the same, Sacred Timeline. There isn’t that synchronicity. So how exactly is one timeline’s chronology matched with another one?
Even then, though, Gwen Stacey of Earth-65 arriving in Earth-1610 a week before the reactor is activated still doesn’t make sense to me. It seems inconsistent. The reactor pulls-in the Spiders according to their timeline’s relative position to Earth-1610’s. Even if the mechanics of that aren’t clear, those mechanics do at least exist. The Spider of Earth-90214B was brought to Earth-1610 from his timeline’s 1933, as were the Spiders of Earth-14512B from their timeline’s 3145. But they both arrived together on the night of the reactor’s activation. The mechanics of that don’t really make sense to me because of the structure the Multiverse is shown to have, but there is clearly a reason for it. So how come they arrived when the reactor was activated, yet Stacey didn’t? If that temporal displacement can happen, why were no other Spiders displaced? Why wasn’t there a variant brought to Earth-1610 a century before the reactor was activated, or a millennium afterwards?
I’m confused by a lot of this and you are the only person I know who could even attempt to answer all of my questions. Like a theologian explaining the Bible, I ask you: help me make sense of all this.
Hey Alex, thanks for the response. And I’m glad you enjoyed it. Lemme see if I can’t answer any of these questions satisfactorily!
Okay, so no, not all of the multiverse is branched off of the Sacred Timeline tree. There were worlds that existed before Loki connected the Sacred Timeline to other universes. Basically the branches can connect to other universes that exist already, or create new universes. Miguel might have numbered them - there’s no indication either way. Miguel’s Earth is designated 928, but it’s assumed it temporally in the year 2099.
Notice in Loki that there are branches off of all sections of the timeline, meaning new branches occur all across time once the timeline stops being regulated by He Who Remains.
The timelines are said to be parallel, despite occurring at different times respectively. Again, they didn’t all branch off the same timeline. The Sacred Timeline is like a tree with branches that converge across branches from other trees. Together, they form a multiverse. Some worlds are more temporally parallel than others.
I recommend rewatching the chapter titled “Dimensional displacement, not temporal displacement” in this video for more info.
I can't wait to see the next MCU Timeline it's gonna be crazy with all the Netflix shows and X-Men movies confirmed as canon.
6:32 Or should I say, traveling cross time, not through time, like a paralel world
This is so interesting!!!
Hopefully the video blows your mind a few times!
Enjoyed watching Spider man across the Spider Verse
Theory: The Spider Society has to do with the participation of the two multiversal Spider-Men and it is not Dr. Strange's spell that does it.
Could be pretty cool!
Damn amazing work as always
Haha thank you!
This is peak Geekritique. This is why I love this channel.
From which source did you take the part at 18:10 ? Rick & Morty?
That’s from the first ep of Loki! And thank you so much 😊
Thanks!
Great vid
Thanks!
Thank you!!! 🎉🎉
You’re very welcome.
Although you say a sliding timescale is new to the medium, Dwayne McDuffie was putting it into his animated shows in the 2010s and before. Both the DCAU and shows like Ben 10 tried to function like this
That’s very cool, I didn’t know that. I only mean to suggest this was a first for a Marvel production to intentionally do that. I could be wrong though. Hope you enjoy the vid regardless.
@@GeekritiqueI did! Maybe when Across the Spider-Verse comes out you could shift the timeline to being more of a Star Wars ABY/BBY set up where you include Year 1, Year 2 instead, or above the actual calendar years.
I can't think of a marvel show or movie that did the sliding timeline. It's possible one of the longer running animations started off referencing an IRL year, kept the main characters the same age (or only having aged a year), then kept referencing the year as the show went on, inadvertently creating one.
The UA-cam channel TheRealJims just went into this with The Simpsons too, where Homer's only 5 years away from being born the year the show came out!
loved this, cant wait for the next spiderverse movie and the timeline video that follows it!
Thanks so much! I can’t wait either!!
Nobody else has commented on "the web I'm attempting to weave here", so I will: Niiiiice.
I have to make a correction, though, because ONE good thing happened in mid-March 2020; my wife & I closed on a house! ;)
(Sorry I somehow missed this when you first posted it.)
Lmao. Gotta love those stupid little puns I throw in there haha. Also, that’s great to hear that something good happened in mid-March 2020 😂
This was a great video, seeing it all spelt out like this got me more into the pitch of the Multiverse saga. It's gonna feel a lot more apparent in retrospect, but it all kinda makes sense now
Really glad you liked the video!!
Love it, keep up the great work with these timelines!
Thanks Wyatt! Will do!
I would like to recomend film theory’s spiderverse video. He has a really good point about canon events being a false hypothesis on miguel’s part and the real threat is still incursions.
Well that’s intriguing!
Except the problem with this video is that it takes the Illuminati's fears literally, when the Illuminati themselves don't know for sure how the incursions can happen.
Not to mention that if Sony is doing its own thing without really caring about the MCU in any serious way, then the theory doesn't really hold water anymore.
Marvel should hire you as a continuity consultant or something.
My DMs are open haha, they know how to find me.
I rather certain that (with a lot of time) you can make a condensed and comprehensive arrowverse timeline.
Also would you make a X-Men timeline(s) before ot after Deadpool 3?
With a lot of time, exactly. Maybe someday.
As for X-Men, yes. After Deadpool 3.
8:45 when you are so smart you can’t even pretend to be dumb 😭😭
I love that scene so much 🤣
Love the video. It’s really cool how across the spider verse made Morbius a better movie. While I got you I’ve been thinking about the X-men timeline and how messed up it is…but maybe it makes more sense if you look at it as 3 separate timelines with their own trilogy. Timeline 1. Is the original trilogy. Timeline 2 would be the Wolverine trilogy. And timeline 3 would be first class, apocalypse, and dark Phoenix…with days of future past being a fun time traveling romp with variants of our favorite characters. Any direct or implied connective tissue between the timelines (ie Jean Greys cameo in the wolverine) could be chalked up to similar backstory because we all know things happen off screen. I don’t know…just something to think about.
Thanks!
I for one cannot wait to finally dig into the Fox X-Men universes!
@@Geekritique I can’t wait to hear your thoughts on that.
Should Loki season 2 be watched right after season 1 or after Quanumania. Although it references quantumania, it takes place directly after Loki season 1 and kind of takes place outside or time so its hard to say. What do you think? Also, will you do a loki season 2 video?
Y'all are forgetting about the spider within. it's a short film that takes place in between the 2 movies, but for whatever reason it has never been shown to the public, only being shown at film festivals. there is a place on UA-cam where you can watch it though. I'd place it in 2022 as there is nothing else for that year on the timeline.
I’m not forgetting it. I simply haven’t seen it. Nor was it available at the time of this release.
Could the sliding timeline explain Iron Man 2’s “6 months later” line?
I personally don’t think so. It would require the rest of these titles to shift forward, but we never see that again. Just a mistake.
before getting to the video, im gonna take a guess that you'll say across the spider-verse takes place in march 2020. since miles states it's been 1 year & 4 months since the first film which took place in december 2018
I like where your head’s at.
I’d love an explanation on how old the comic 616 universe is.
It's interresting to watch this video about sliding timeline a day after TheRealJims video about the Simpsons sliding timeline
I didn’t even know they made one lol. That’s cool.
When are you going to do the DC Universe Timeline video?
I’ve answered you many times. After Aquaman 2.
While the sliding timeline is very interesting and plausible idea I’m curious if there’s anyway the blip could somehow factor in as an explanation for why a year and 4 months take place over 5 years
The issue there is that there’s simply no proof the blip occurred, and we know that was specific to the MCU’s Sacred Timeline.
@@Geekritique oh that’s right even earth 838 that Doctor Strange goes to doesn’t experience a blip so ya definitely doesn’t fit. Good call
I think Mat Pats theory for the canon events makes sense too.
Nice! Thanks for watching.
Technically you now also need to place spectacular spider man and all the other spider media on your mcu timeline
My rule is that I wait until a timeline directly converges with the MCU in a meaningful way before placing it on my MCU Timeline graphic.
Well, something I wanted to add, is why some characters change shape when they travel between universes and others don't? Well, I think it's something that can be deduced and makes a lot of sense. Well, I think that everything is in the molecular change and this would explain why some characters do not glitch when traveling between universes, we can see that in the multiverse of madness when America and Stephen travel between universes they change their structure, from painting, blocks and animation and in no way home none of them glitch but I can deduce that the reason is that traveling through magic or supernatural powers like the ones that America has, changes your molecular structure so that it adapts to the universe that is why no character in no way home suffers from the glitch proof that magic changes the molecular structure could be in electro since a short time after being in the mcu its structure changes, Then the other way to travel is through science or technology and when you travel like this it seems that your structure does not change but you can suffer from the glitch for that very reason because your atoms are not compatible with that universe. but in the post-credits scene of into the spider-verse we see that Miguel travels to the land of Spider-Man in the 60's but his structure does change to 2D animation Well, the explanation I give him is that it was a prototype that if your shape changed, I would change this in future designs so as not to harm his abilities. For example, if Spider-ham were changed to the normal structure and not a cartoon one, it would be annoying for him and it would take away from him. abilities like hammer space, and another reason could be that Miguel himself would see that changing his structure to travel to universes would be detrimental to the traveler, for example if Miguel traveled to the painting dimension it would be very difficult to be able to move or things like that. and well that's what I wanted to contribute, sorry for so much text
This is well thought out and makes sense. Thanks for sharing!!
@@Geekritique THANKS!!
24:09 if instalments should be considered as affecting the next going up through branches like in the endgame branch (👀SV stuff should go up from what-if part tbh, just cuz of the importance of the ancient one’s speach😅) why are we going down into the FFH branch ?
This is branching out of Loki here. But I guess we could have it branch out of What If too.
well if into the spiderverse took place in 2018, Miles Morales in 2018 is 13 and in Across the Spiderverse, it is clarified that Miles is 15 so ASTV takes place in either late 2019 or 2020
nvm
how old is miles in ISTV
They should’ve just called Canon events, which is so confusing and so dumb because the film doesn’t really explain what the hell they are but simple words they should’ve called them incursions because that’s basically what they are
shows like the simpsons and bob’s burgers have sliding/floating timelines
You’re def right. I’m just talking Marvel stuff when I say this is a first.
@@Geekritique ohh that makes sense
If Across the Spider-verse is in 2023 and No way home is in 2024, how does Miguel know about Doctor Strange’s spell? Unless the 2023 of across the spiderverse runs concurrently to 2024 of the main MCU timeline ?
Not every universe is happening in the same year, i mean look at What If, Uatu takes Peggy from the year 2014, Takes Erik Killmonger from 2008, takes Dr. Strange from 2016, Takes Thor from 2010 and even drops them in the year 2015 for the final battle and even then he drops the 2015 Nat from the Ultron Ravaged world into the Nick Fury's 2012 timeline.
So in Miles universe its 2023, but in the MCU its 2024.
I explain it earlier in the video. Under the chapter mark ‘Dimensional displacement, not temporal displacement’ around the 5:00 min mark. The worlds may be parallel, but they’re at different stages on their respective timelines.
@@eagc7 that makes sense, thanks
His year is 2099.
Great Job, super confusing
No Geekritique video is complete without a little confusion.
There was this light around the like and dislike button exactly when you said like and subscribe, HOW? Is this a new feature of UA-cam or something?
I’ve never seen this. At the beginning or ending?
@@Geekritique when you said that we should like and subscribe, the button lit up. It was on PC so maybe it's not on all platforms.
@hifive789 I’ll have to look out for it.
First of all, nice sleuthing. Had not considered that 65 might be behind"modern times. "I was kind of hoping you'd cover the timeline for things that happen off screen during across. Like if there's a way to tell how long after ITSV that Gwen's cold open begins. How long it actually is between her joining the Society and visiting Miles. When Miguel might have begun the society? When he destroyed his adopted universe. Just on the off chance that your caught any clues to any of this.
I thought about adding onto this narrative, but I had nothing of note to supply beyond Gwen says it’s been a couple months and Miguel destroyed that one universe at some point between films. 🤷🏻♂️ But thank you for watching!!
@@Geekritique That's too bad. Was really hoping I'd just missed some clues. The best limiters I could think of was 1) the growth of Gwen's hair (indicating 3-5 months cause it's grown quite a bit), and 2) the fact Jess is still pregnant (indicating no more than 4-5 months.)
Of course, maybe being a Spider speeds the rate of hair growth or slows gestation, so even those two items are suspect.
when will u add in i am groot season 2
🤷🏻♂️
Is it possible that Miguel’s remark regarding Dr. Strange and Earth 199999 was the result of one of his predictions? On this timeline the film takes place chronologically prior to No Way Home so there is no way for Miguel to know about NWH, right?
If my theory of their being parallel worlds at different stages of their timeline is true, and that what we see happening in Across the Spider-Verse is a direct result of what happened in No Way Home, than Across the Spider-Verse occurs after No Way Home.
@@Geekritiqueso each timeline is just at different points of progression? Does this mean that for Noir, 1930=2018 for miles? So then 2024 for MCU and Peter occurs multiversally prior to Across the spiderverse, even though across the spiderverse takes place in Miles’ version of 2023? If so, that’s super cool but makes the watch through process much more complicated
@newzealand5482 That’s how I’ve interpreted it, yea! It’s very confusing.
why did u connect this to loki?
That’s explained in the video.
MORBIUS IS FIXED
Finally.
Also this is the timeline of the Marvel Cinematic Universe Timeline book which proves that the Disney+ timeline is correct, and not your timeline!
1942-1945: Captain America The First Avenger
1946: Agent Carter
1995: Captain Marvel
2008: Iron Man
2010: Iron Man 2, The Incredible Hulk, A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to Thor's Hammer, Thor, The Consultant
2012: The Avengers, Item 47
2013: Thor The Dark World, Iron Man 3
2014: All Hail the King, Captain America The Winter Soldier, Guardians of the Galaxy, Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2, I Am Groot Season 1, I Am Groot Season 2
2015: Avengers Age of Ultron, Ant-Man
2016: Captain America Civil War, Black Widow, Black Panther, Spider-Man Homecoming
2017: Doctor Strange, Thor Ragnarok
2018: Ant-Man and the Wasp, Avengers Infinity War
2023: Avengers Endgame, Loki Season 1, What If...? Season 1, WandaVision Season 1
2024: Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings, The Falcon and the Winter Soldier Season 1, Spider-Man Far From Home, Eternals, Spider-Man No Way Home, Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness, Hawkeye Season 1
2025: Moon Knight Season 1, She-Hulk Attorney At Law Season 1, Ms. Marvel Season 1, Thor Love and Thunder, Werewolf By Night, The Guardians of the Galaxy Holiday Special
2026: Ant-Man and the Wasp, Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3, Secret Invasion Season 1
Well yes, my timeline was never official. That said, neither was the Disney+ timeline, as certain titles like Shang-Chi were moved.
This also does not mean that there’s much logic to certain placements like Iron Man 3 or Love and Thunder.
@@Geekritique The reason that Iron Man 3 is set during December 2013, is because that is 13 years after 2000. Everyone thinks that Iron Man 3 needs to happen 13 years after 1999, placing the film in 2012, but if you think about it, the opening of the film happens on New Years Eve of December 31, 1999 the next day would be January 1, 2000 and that is how you can tell that the film is set in 2013. Thor Love and Thunder on the other hand takes place 8 years after the break up, and 8 years after 2017 is 2025, also during the film Thor Ragnarok some fangirls of Thor say, "Sorry to hear that Jane dumped you." Why would they bring up the fact that Thor & Jane had the break up, during November 2017, if the break up happened during lets say either late 2015 or early 2016? that would make no sense, that is why Thor Love and Thunder has to take place during October 2025!
@theorycraftingmachine2876 First off, 13 years after the end of the year 1999 would bring you to late 2012, maybe early 2013, not Christmas 2013. Your math is flawed.
People comment on celebrity breakups from years ago all the time. We don’t even know when the general public found out about their breakup, so this does not work. Consider that only two months pass between Love and Thunder and the Guardians Holiday Special. Groot cannot age that much in 2 months. This does not work.
@@Geekritique Well then why would they say that the events of the film is 13 years later? January 1, 2000 can only bring us to December 2013, which would be exactly 13 years after, if you go off of December 31 1999, that would be 14 years later, which contradicts the timeline, also We saw during the first episode of I Am Groot Season 1, that Groot was able to control his growth, so it is not out of the realm of possibility that we would see him looking like teenage Groot during Thor Love and Thunder which would take place in October 2025, and then see him the way he looks during the events of The Guardians of the Galaxy Holiday Special, which takes place during December 2025!
Is the MCU 616 or 199999?
199999 to fans, 616 to Marvel Studios. 🤷🏻♂️
Hello! so i have been watching your for a while and i was wondering, When will you be release the full timeline no 8? Are planning on making it after a certain Movie or Tv Show?
I’m waiting until after The Marvels mainly.
I get than Miguel can't see the future, but then how does he know about Dr. Strange and Peter on E-199999? Isn't that in the future for them?
No, just because one world is further along in time than another, they still happen parallel to each other.
@@Geekritique Wow! Thanks for the reply! I still don’t get how Miguel knows about the events of NWH, though. I get the Miguel’s timeline is set in the future yet is parallel to Miles’ but don’t understand how he knows about NWH but not about Miles’ father’s death.
@elliotchilds6686 no problem. Each world is parallel to each other. The events in No Way Home happened on a parallel universe to the events happening in Across the Spider-Verse. It’s already happened.
@@Geekritique Aha! Thanks so much! Next time I watch through the timeline, I’ll do into the spiderverse first, NWH, then across the spiderverse. I’m a huge fan of your videos, keep up the great work!
@elliotchilds6686 Thanks man, glad to help!
How Morbius takes place before Venom 2 ?
Into the Spider-Verse takes place before or after No way Home ?
P.S. I'm waiting Kraven the Hunter and Beyond the Spider-Verse !!!
I break it down in my MCU Timeline, but basically there are hints that Morbius is in 2019 and Venom 2 is in 2020.
@Geekritique But the post credit of Venom 2 takes place with the first magic spell of Doctor Strange and the post credit of Morbius takes place after the second spell 🤔...
@TheMerchan Post credits scenes rarely line up with the time period the film itself occurs in. Also, the timelines don’t always need to be one to one. It can be 2020 in one universe and 2024 in another, and they can both be parallel.
@@Geekritique Wow 😃.
What a ned?
What IS a Ned?
So they all exist after the aftermath of Loki when Sylvie killed he who remains thank you Sylvie
I think the universes already existed separate from the MCU but once the timelines were allowed to branch, Dr Strange's spell now was able to impact other universes
@@sheevpalpatine9487 I do not know if that’s possible really this was the whole point of the video really that the spider verse timeline and how it’s linked to the MCU I mean think about it. There was no universes that exist outside the sacred timeline because they just entered, threw up portal, all timelines exist so when Sylvie kill he who remain because all of those universes exist because for what Sylvie did and I believe that pretty much true
And also, you are right they’re just diverge from the sacred timeline, but they do live in the same Multiverse just with different timelines/universes
@@elitemanmarvelfan8226check out some videos by A Bit Of Everything, he explains his theory’s for the multiverse logic and stuff very well
Anything with Canon events Trying to be explained, hurts my brain because it doesn’t make any sense. It is so unnecessary and for some reason such a big part of the story, even though canon events are basically incursions, you know, saying one person in that universe and causing that universe to get destroyed. I think my biggest issues with Across the Spider-Verse is it dragging on way too long it doesn’t really go anywhere and has seen drag on for a unnecessarily long period of time making Spider-Man 2099 into a villain with a personality more reminiscent of Superior Spider-Man, which begs the question, why didn’t they just use him instead? them forgetting The Spot as the main villain Who had fine development but that was kind of forgotten about after they may 2099 into the main villain then when he came back and kind of felt underdeveloped, unnecessary Spider-Man’s who didn’t do anything in the film and could’ve easily been card talking about Ben Riley and Lego Spider-Man which by the way I feel like that Lego part didn’t deserve the praise it got just because of how unnecessary that part and how it went nowhere and you could literally remove it and it wouldn’t change the story showing how unnecessary that part was how it deserve to be there because of how it went nowhere, cannon events not being that will explain it being very confusing and a annoying done cliffhanger ending I don’t get me started with the fact that they got a JK to voice Jonah for Earth-42 and I think 1610, but didn’t get him to voice Lego universe but instead we use audio from Spider-Man 2 which you can tell it’s reused so that’s like what the hell
Didn't Loki established that if you disrupt an event, a Nexus point would occur, and a new reality would be created? So if it's to be connected to the MCU, how come Spider Verse established that disrupting an event would lead to a reality being unraveling?
Not always. What If doesn’t work on that logic, so it’s not a hard and fast rule.
@@Geekritique didn't What If episode 4 showed the same consequence as Spider Verse if an event is disrupted?
Basically, but it was disrupted many many times before it could get to that point. Strange was reaaally tampering with the fabric of reality.
@@Geekritique technically, he didn't disrupt it many times, he failed* many times initially, and then* he succeeded
@yudhazacharias9377 I see what you’re saying.
So when watching all marvel films in chronological order, when would the two spider verse films be watched?
Into the Spider-Verse should be some time after Loki season 1, and Across the Spider-Verse should be some time after No Way Home. That’s about as accurate as I can make it currently.
Well i am confused now
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If that were really the case, Gamora (2014) and Loki (2012) will already be dead.
They bounced from one branch on their timeline to another branch on their same timeline. That’s temporal displacement, not dimensional.
@@GeekritiqueThis could have worked for Gamora but for Loki it doesn't work.
Already (I'm saying this just in case) the idea that the sacred timelines are just one universe/timelines (the series makes no distinction between reality, timelines, and the universe) is false . these are several different universes that follow the path traced by the one who remains, because most of the Loki seen in the series are very different from each other. The first trailer shows us a screen which shows us several universes which come together in the sacred timelines.
So no, I don't think that's what determines whether a person will have problems. I think the answer is much more basic.
Given that in the two Spider-Verse films we have universes that are very different from each other (visually Miles' universe has nothing to do with that of Gwen and Peter Parker from the 1930s (and the second film adds a layer with the live action universes), we can simply say that all universes are not governed by the same laws..
And time slipping has (until proven otherwise) nothing to do with Glitch. They have fundamental differences that cannot be considered the same thing.
time slip transports an individual forcibly through time while Glitch disintegrates an individual when they are not in the correct dimension.
@nikolap490 Oh I know, time slipping has nothing to do with glitching. But what you’re saying is disproven by Kang in Loki. He isolated the Sacred Timeline away from the multiverse. So they’re traveling in time, not cross dimensionally. The pruned variants were from destroyed timeline branches that were beginning to form other universes.
@@GeekritiqueKang doesn't travel between dimensions...am I misinterpreting what you're saying, or is it just inconsistent with what's being said about multiversal warfare?
A Kang variant that discovers other universes and other Kang variants discover the same thing. I repeat it but in the trailer for season 2 of Loki we see several (separate) universes which come together in the sacred chronologies. And Kang from Ant Man 3 has already caused several incursions before being banished to the quantum realm and he claims to have seen the Multiverse die (one wonders if he is not a survivor of a previous multiversal war).
In the MCU, Kang has always been linked to the Multiverse. But that doesn't necessarily mean it's not time-related. Don't make me say what I didn't say. He can travel across universes and into the past and future of a pre-existing universe.
You’re talking about season 2, I’m talking season one and before that point. Chronologically the multiverse was closed until the finale of Loki. Prior to that they were traversing the timeline and branches of that timeline of only one universe.
After Loki s1 allowed the multiverse to take shape again, is how interdimensional travel between the Spider-Verse is possible. Whatever happens in Loki s2, I don’t know. I haven’t seen it.
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Or maybe something more? Perhaps Beyond. I don't think it was accidental for him to state "My name is Miles Morales I was bitten by a radioactive spider you should know the rest jerk!"...No mention of being Spider-Man. Then the film ending with "My name is Miles Morales but YOU can call me The Prowler".
He won't follow the canon of it. He's been labeled an Anomaly. He DOES deviate willing to do what all other Spiders are unwilling to.
This is where I have to put my foot down. The MCU is shit. don’t muddy the waters further by pretending these things fit into it. If anything it LOWERS these films value.
He did it folks. He put his foot down.